I'm lovin' Obama already

[Uncleskinny]

First the shutdown of Guantanamo, second the allowing of stem-cell research, and thirdly this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7847651.stm). 'Outstanding' said Moz, re:Obama. Early days, but he's got good signs.

Peter

[Ready With Ready-Wit]

First the shutdown of Guantanamo, second the allowing of stem-cell research, and thirdly this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7847651.stm). 'Outstanding' said Moz, re:Obama. Early days, but he's got good signs.

Peter

Well I like the Gitmo thing. Other than that: :angry:

Skinny, your tax money wasn't just signed over to sponsor and promote abortions in Guatemala.

[nugz]

welcome to the club :)

I liked this little story today


Obama to GOP: "I won."

President Obama listened to Republican gripes about his stimulus package during a meeting with congressional leaders Friday morning - but he also left no doubt about who's in charge of these negotiations. "I won," Obama noted matter-of-factly, according to sources familiar with the conversation.


the rest here...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17862.html

yeah you tell them who's boss!!!! :guitar:

[spleenhead]

The man seems to have the courage of his convictions and is getting these things done very quickly while the people and the media are still on his side. Introducing healthcare for the 45 million without insurance should be his priority but he might be up against it on that one. But excellent start :guitar:

[The Spirit of '69]

He has a nice line in patter and has the great advantage that he isn't his predecessor. Come back in a year and let's see how popular he is..

[*EqualOpportunityHater*]

Stem-Cell Reseach <3

Chris Reeves and his wife must be happy in heaven :)

I know I started the Official Obama Hate Thread in The "sty, but that was just a one issue thing having to do with that fat pig Rick Warren.... I <3 and have been <3ing Obama since his DNC Convention speech 4.5 yrs ago... That's right! I ain't one of the millions of new trendy Obama lovers, I been behind him 100% since day one.... Just ask Hillary supporters :cool::D

[Half_a_Person]

First the shutdown of Guantanamo, second the allowing of stem-cell research, and thirdly this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7847651.stm). 'Outstanding' said Moz, re:Obama. Early days, but he's got good signs.

Peter

Already? I've loved him always!!:D:D

[Uncleskinny]

Well I like the Gitmo thing. Other than that: :angry:

Skinny, your tax money wasn't just signed over to sponsor and promote abortions in Guatemala.

I should really stop having opinions about things with which I'm never going to be 100% au-fait.

Peter

[EPbabe]

First the shutdown of Guantanamo, second the allowing of stem-cell research, and thirdly this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7847651.stm). 'Outstanding' said Moz, re:Obama. Early days, but he's got good signs.

Peter

I hear you. This guy finally has the guts to break taboos, I like that.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

He's a good guy. I wish he was still on my side here in Chicago, we've now got party tool Burris in his place. I need to move. Far, far away.

I am tremendously proud of my country for at least trying to break this evil losing streak and vote for change. However, I'm still realistic about how much change will happen. But it does make me wonder--has all this stagnation just been because no one will stand up and make a decision? Is it because no one ever wanted to risk being the first one to jump in, risk having a few stones or rotten tomatoes thrown at them? I think that's the case.

[Hellie]

He is truly wonderful.But what can anyone do in eight years?

The rule that they can only serve two terms is most bizarre.

[Ready With Ready-Wit]

I should really stop having opinions about things with which I'm never going to be 100% au-fait.

Peter

Oh wow. I agree with someone! :D:guitar:

Nah JK. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I was simply stating mine.

[Tito]

anyone know any good Obama jokes?

[Buzzetta]

The reversal of Bush' banning of government funding to foreign country funds that provide abortions should be a bipartisan outrage. No wonder he did not provide much publicity for this.

Explain to me why when we are in a financial crisis of our own that the United States should contribute money to funds in other countries that provide abortions to people within their own countries. You support abortion, fine whatever- explain to me why more AMERICAN tax dollars need to leave the country to support another countries abortions.

Great to see my tax dollars at work.

[*EqualOpportunityHater*]

The reversal of Bush' banning of government funding to foreign country funds that provide abortions should be a bipartisan outrage. No wonder he did not provide much publicity for this.

Explain to me why when we are in a financial crisis of our own that the United States should contribute money to funds in other countries that provide abortions to people within their own countries. You support abortion, fine whatever- explain to me why more AMERICAN tax dollars need to leave the country to support another countries abortions.

Great to see my tax dollars at work.

Maybe to help keep down overpopulation??? :confused:

All I know for sure is that Rick Warren shoulda been aborted :guitar:

[MunchyBrain]

He's coming to England to do his thing at Wembley in April as part of the G20 stuff...you heard it from me first..

[Pervomartovtsi]

some people call me the latino obama, maybe is cuz i'm way too neat

[Flax]

Well I like the Gitmo thing. Other than that: :angry:

Skinny, your tax money wasn't just signed over to sponsor and promote abortions in Guatemala.

Nobody is "promoting abortions". Nobody is "pro-abortions".
Abortions will happen whether you fund them or not. Regardless of your opinion...

I'd rather see my tax dollars being spent to help women than seeing them going to churches.

[Buzzetta]

Nobody is "promoting abortions". Nobody is "pro-abortions".
Abortions will happen whether you fund them or not. Regardless of your opinion...

I'd rather see my tax dollars being spent to help women than seeing them going to churches.

I am going to bypass the abortion issue. Regardless of all of the differing opinions, abortion is a controversial issue. If that controversial issue need be addressed that is fine. However there is no need to send tax dollars outside the country for this.

How could money earmarked for this be better spent?
Why not use it to sponsor programs within the United States for women that are in need for support after they have had abortions?
Why not use it to sponsor abortions within the United States?

There is no reason that more tax dollars need to leave the country. There are many funds that on the chopping block that the people of the United States benefit from and depend on. Instead of supporting our infrastructure we are transplanting tax dollars out of the United States to fund the abortions for another country.

You want help for women? Perhaps the women within the United States would like to have their tax dollars help the women within the United States.

[Flax]

I am going to bypass the abortion issue. Regardless of all of the differing opinions, abortion is a controversial issue. If that controversial issue need be addressed that is fine. However there is no need to send tax dollars outside the country for this.

How could money earmarked for this be better spent?
Why not use it to sponsor programs within the United States for women that are in need for support after they have had abortions?
Why not use it to sponsor abortions within the United States?

There is no reason that more tax dollars need to leave the country. There are many funds that on the chopping block that the people of the United States benefit from and depend on. Instead of supporting our infrastructure we are transplanting tax dollars out of the United States to fund the abortions for another country.

You want help for women? Perhaps the women within the United States would like to have their tax dollars help the women within the United States.

yeah, I agree that during this period of crisis, money shouldn't leave the US. But I'm knowledgeable about economy, so I don't really know the overall impact of this.

My comment was more towards the expression "promote abortions". The pro-lifers make it sound as if women love having abortions and when they're done with it they have abortion parties.

[dunya]

I am going to bypass the abortion issue. Regardless of all of the differing opinions, abortion is a controversial issue. If that controversial issue need be addressed that is fine. However there is no need to send tax dollars outside the country for this.

How could money earmarked for this be better spent?
Why not use it to sponsor programs within the United States for women that are in need for support after they have had abortions?
Why not use it to sponsor abortions within the United States?

There is no reason that more tax dollars need to leave the country. There are many funds that on the chopping block that the people of the United States benefit from and depend on. Instead of supporting our infrastructure we are transplanting tax dollars out of the United States to fund the abortions for another country.

You want help for women? Perhaps the women within the United States would like to have their tax dollars help the women within the United States.



I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that of the money allocated for aid overseas, the Bush administration limited it to those that did not provide abortion advice as one of the options available. Thus most of the money ended up in the hands of religious organisations. That is, it is not more money being spent now, but it is going to different aid organisations. :confused:

Also the amount of money, as a percentage of the nations' wealth, going to overseas aid, is very small.

Sure money should be spent on domestic need. It is, but never enough, and under Bush to the wrong people (tax breaks for the rich). I wonder how much overseas aid amounts to compared to the millions handed out with few strings attached to the reckless, greedy bankers whose unethical actions have brought suffering to millions across the world.

:mad:

[Buzzetta]

Abortion advice AND provide or preform abortions.

Yahoo uses the word "perform"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_abortion_ban

CNN uses the the word "provide referrals"
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/23/obama.abortion/

FOX News (Very right leaning) uses the word "promote" and "perform"
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/01/23/obama-lift-ban-overseas-abortion-funding/

NY Times (Very left leaning) uses the word "promote" and "perform"
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/us/politics/24obama.html?hp


And Obama cannot throw something like this on Bush. If anything this has been a political football dating back to Reagan. On an aside - I am not talking about Bush, Bush is no longer the President. Obama does not get a pass because of what the last guy did or did not do. Obama made the decision to allocate funding to these groups.

Obama will receive a pass on some policies for a time period concerning what Bush has left behind. However it is not an eternal pass. Eventually there needs to be a time where the American Public will have to say "Mr President you cannot put this on your predecessor you need to take accountability."

[Ready With Ready-Wit]

yeah, I agree that during this period of crisis, money shouldn't leave the US. But I'm knowledgeable about economy, so I don't really know the overall impact of this.

My comment was more towards the expression "promote abortions". The pro-lifers make it sound as if women love having abortions and when they're done with it they have abortion parties.

I honestly don't care about the women (obviously :p). They can do whatever they want to themselves. I don't judge.

But I'm more concerned with what the very human race becomes when laws treat human lives as inanimate object. What does that say about our society? The women and their choice need to get over themselves.

[nugz]

They can do whatever they want to themselves. I don't judge.

The women and their choice need to get over themselves.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Flax]

Abortion advice AND provide or preform abortions.

I just glanced at the articles you posted and noticed that the term "promote abortions" is being used by the media and the pro-lifers. NOT Obama.

According to NY Times, Obama says that he wants to promote a safe way of doing it. Safe.

And then you go to the Fox News website and you see the guy from the National Right to Life Committee saying that Obama is "promoting abortions".

This is either twisting the words or all these people need to study the English language. What can I expect anyway? This is an English speaking country and in this time of war people can't even use the word troops correctly.

So yeah, they all used the word "promote" out of context.

[Buzzetta]

I just glanced at the articles you posted and noticed that the term "promote abortions" is being used by the media and the pro-lifers. NOT Obama.

According to NY Times, Obama says that he wants to promote a safe way of doing it. Safe.

And then you go to the Fox News website and you see the guy from the National Right to Life Committee saying that Obama is "promoting abortions".

This is either twisting the words or all these people need to study the English language. What can I expect anyway? This is an English speaking country and in this time of war people can't even use the word troops correctly.

So yeah, they all used the word "promote" out of context.

But the word provide is a bit damning. The problem is that I do not care in either way (in this instance) what the stand on abortion is. To me, at least for my argument, I am bypassing that issue all together.

Funding should not be leaving the country in times of other economic cutbacks. For those that say it is not much I say - use that small bit of money to buy updated books for a school. I argued for the past four years to replace books that were printed in 1995 as they were seen as "good enough." Finally received them this year and I am sure that there are other that do not have a pain in the ass such as myself.

How about using some of that money to reopen the firehouses in Brooklyn that were shut down a few years ago?

Obama pandered to his party line in signing this order.

[Flax]

But the word provide is a bit damning.

I don't think so. The usage of the word was clear but people twist it anyway. I don't know if they're dumb or they just pretend they are. But hey, the president didn't speak English correctly, so why should the people?


Funding should not be leaving the country in times of other economic cutbacks.

yeah, I agree with that.

[Cassius]

The pro-lifers make it sound as if women love having abortions and when they're done with it they have abortion parties.

Then they take a dump on the American flag.

[Ready With Ready-Wit]

Then they take a dump on the American flag.

Nah. I just use it to wipe. ;)

[*EqualOpportunityHater*]

RickWarren.should.have.been.aborted... yw!

[毛小青]

But not Hu!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Hu_Jintao.jpg