Album with most songs never played live?

[King Leer]

One of those Morrissey-related questions that pops into your head -- Which albums contains the most songs never played in a live setting?

It's like sports statistics minutiae, but I'm sure someone can quickly come up with the answer.

Edit: No, I don't want to go back through the never-played-live threads and calculate it myself.

[Kewpie]

Kill Uncle is the most songs never played live.

However, in terms of actal album tracks Viva Hate is the answer.

http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=72027

Viva Hate
-I Know Very Well How I Got my Name
-Oh Well, I'll Never Learn
-Bengali in Platforms
-The Ordinary Boys
-I Don't Mind If You Forget Me
-Dial-a-Cliche
-Margaret on the Guillotine (full version!)

Kill Uncle
-Michael's Bones
-Get Off the Stage
-Journalists Who Lie
-Tony the Pony
-Found Found Found
-The Harsh Truth of the Camera Eye
-There Speaks a True Friend
-You've Had Her

Vauxhall and I
-I'd Love To
-Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning
-The Lazy Sunbathers

Southpaw Grammar
-Best Friend on the Payroll
-Southpaw
-You Must Please Remember
-Black-Eyed Susan

Maladjusted
-Papa Jack
-Ammunition
-He Cried
-Now I Am A Was
-This is Not Your Country

You Are The Quarry
-Come Back to Camden (played in July + Aug 2011)
-Teenage Dad on His Estate (played in July 2009)
-I Am Two People
-The Slum Mums
-The Public Image
-I Knew I Was Next

Ringleader Of The Tormentors
-Christian Dior
-Sweetie Pie
-Children in Pieces
-My Dearest Love

[Poppy Full]

Ringleader Of The Tormentors
-Christian Dior
-Sweetie Pie
-Children in Pieces
-My Dearest Love

I can't express how much I want to hear him to play 'Children In Pieces' in Omagh :pray::o

[Kewpie]

Interesting to know that 5 songs of YATQ singles B-side tracks hadn't been played in live.

[esperanza]

I'm not sure that "michaels bones' (1989) qualifies for inclusion on Kill Uncle does it ? And "I new I was next" is surely from Ringleader's sessions,don't you think ?

[travelcard]

i had never realised that come back to camden was the only song from YATQ (ok, with the exception of b-sides) that has never been played live! is that really so? actually, come back to camden is one of my all time favourite songs.. but perhaps is not very "playable live", i suppose.

[Ben Budd]

Kewpie, your list is all fucked up. You've Had Her is clearly an Arsenal era b-side.

[the beast]

i studied that list before and you've had her and there speaks a true friend aren't to do with kill uncle for a start. but i thought better of questioning the author:eek:

[Johan de Witt]

The correct list should be:

Viva Hate
-Bengali in Platforms
-The Ordinary Boys
-I Don't Mind If You Forget Me
-Dial-a-Cliche
-Margaret on the Guillotine

Kill Uncle
-Found Found Found
-The Harsh Truth of the Camera Eye

Vauxhall and I
-Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning
-The Lazy Sunbathers

Southpaw Grammar
-Best Friend on the Payroll
-Southpaw

Maladjusted
-Papa Jack
-Ammunition
-He Cried

You Are The Quarry
-Come Back to Camden

Ringleader Of The Tormentors


So looking at the last 2 albums it's a safe bet that he will play nearly all of the new album live the upcoming months.

[King Leer]

So there was a thread that compiled it all -- gomen nasai.

Looking at all this, the most interesting stat is that everything released from the Your Arsenal sessions has been played live? Even You've Had Her?

Edit: The Beast posted while I was searching Passions to see whether YHH had actually ever been played live! Didn't notice it listed under KU, because I wasn't looking for it...

[esperanza]

Your Arsenal is the only album he's played all the (album)songs live.(I've just noticed that.I'm not making any kind of grand statement).

[jesuisbryony]

The correct list should be:

So looking at the last 2 albums it's a safe bet that he will play nearly all of the new album live the upcoming months.

Pst, how is including b-sides incorrect?

Oh help us.:rolleyes::o

[Johan de Witt]

Your Arsenal is the only album he's played all the (album)songs live.(I've just noticed that.I'm not making any kind of grand statement).

And Ringleader...


Pst, how is including b-sides incorrect?

Oh help us.:rolleyes::o

Look at the thread-title... A b-side isn't on an album, or it wouldn't be a b-side :)

[King Leer]

My original question was sticking to just album tracks, so the list dug up threw things off a bit but is also interesting.

On a tangent, why were all the b-sides of We Hate It...all live tracks? Hadn't any b-sides been done by that point?

[esperanza]

Sorry,talking rubbish...again!

[jesuisbryony]

Look at the thread-title... A b-side isn't on an album, or it wouldn't be a b-side :)

I see, it took it to be the "era". :)

[King Leer]

And I thought America Is Not The World had never been played, but it did in fact get two airings during Euro fest dates in 2004 (thanks Passions...). I guess that's the only song in the Moz canon to literally become out of date.

[Johan de Witt]

On a tangent, why were all the b-sides of We Hate It...all live tracks? Hadn't any b-sides been done by that point?


Interesting point. I suppose they were all 'wasted' on the My Love Life and Pregnant singles (including the A-sides...).

It is interesting that Morrissey most lauded-albums (Arsenal and Vauxhall) actually produced the least b-sides.

[grlmopz]

Sorrow Will Come In The End was certainly never played live.

I thought I recalled that he did play Come Back To Camden once - maybe he just sang a few lines of it?

[Ben Budd]

Sorrow Will Come In The End was certainly never played live.

I thought I recalled that he did play Come Back To Camden once - maybe he just sang a few lines of it?

No. Soundchecked in 04, that was it.

[ringchase]

i would love for him to do sorrow will come to you in the end live, just so i can hear it live i have a guilty pleasure for this song.

[JLA75]

I added the b-sides to each album to the list Johan came up with...

Viva Hate
-Bengali in Platforms
-The Ordinary Boys
-I Don't Mind If You Forget Me
-Dial-a-Cliche
-Margaret on the Guillotine
b-sides from VH era not played live:
-I know very well how I got my name
-Oh well, I’ll never learn

Non-album singles/b-sides 1989-1990
-Michael’s bones
-East West
-Get off The Stage

Kill Uncle
-Found Found Found
-The Harsh Truth of the Camera Eye
b-sides from KU era not played live:
-Journalists who lie
-Tony the pony
-Skin Storm

Your Arsenal
-(all songs played live)
b-sides from YA era not played live:
-There speaks a true friend
-You’ve had her

Vauxhall and I
-Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning
-The Lazy Sunbathers
b-sides from V&I era not played live:
-I’d love to
-Interlude (technically an a-side)
-Black-eyed Susan

Southpaw Grammar
-Best Friend on the Payroll
-Southpaw
b-sides from SG era not played live:
-You must please remember

Maladjusted
-Papa Jack
-Ammunition
-He Cried
-Sorrow will come in the end
b-sides from Mal era not played live:
-Now I am a was
-This is not your country


You Are The Quarry
-Come Back to Camden
b-sides from YATQ era not played live:
-It’s hard to walk tall when you’re small
-Teenage dad on his estate
-I am two people
-The slum mums
-The public image
-Noise is the best revenge

Ringleader Of The Tormentors
-(all songs played live)
b-sides from ROTT era not played live:
-I knew I was next
-Christian Dior
-Sweetie-pie

Years Of Refusal
-Black cloud
-When last I spoke to Carol
-It’s not your birthday anymore
-You were good in your time
-Sorry doesn’t help
-I’m OK by myself
b-sides from YOR era not played live:
-Children in pieces
-My dearest love
-Because of my poor education
-Shame is the name

[tlm130]

I added the b-sides to each album to the list Johan came up with...

Viva Hate
-Bengali in Platforms
-The Ordinary Boys
-I Don't Mind If You Forget Me
-Dial-a-Cliche
-Margaret on the Guillotine
b-sides from VH era not played live:
-I know very well how I got my name
-Oh well, I’ll never learn

Non-album singles/b-sides 1989-1990
-Michael’s bones
-East West
-Get off The Stage

Kill Uncle
-Found Found Found
-The Harsh Truth of the Camera Eye
b-sides from KU era not played live:
-Journalists who lie
-Tony the pony
-Skin Storm

Your Arsenal
-(all songs played live)
b-sides from YA era not played live:
-There speaks a true friend
-You’ve had her

Vauxhall and I
-Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning
-The Lazy Sunbathers
b-sides from V&I era not played live:
-I’d love to
-Interlude (technically an a-side)
-Black-eyed Susan

Southpaw Grammar
-Best Friend on the Payroll
-Southpaw
b-sides from SG era not played live:
-You must please remember

Maladjusted
-Papa Jack
-Ammunition
-He Cried
-Sorrow will come in the end
b-sides from Mal era not played live:
-Now I am a was
-This is not your country


You Are The Quarry
-Come Back to Camden
b-sides from YATQ era not played live:
-It’s hard to walk tall when you’re small
-Teenage dad on his estate
-I am two people
-The slum mums
-The public image
-Noise is the best revenge

Ringleader Of The Tormentors
-(all songs played live)
b-sides from ROTT era not played live:
-I knew I was next
-Christian Dior
-Sweetie-pie

Years Of Refusal
-Black cloud
-When last I spoke to Carol
-It’s not your birthday anymore
-You were good in your time
-Sorry doesn’t help
-I’m OK by myself
b-sides from YOR era not played live:
-Children in pieces
-My dearest love
-Because of my poor education
-Shame is the name

You forgot "Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning"

[ringchase]

cant believe he has never done best friend on the payroll

[Houdini]

cant believe he has never done best friend on the payroll

He has now :)