Why doesn't Morrissey have a signifigant other?

[bored]

The choices are in the poll.

[Kewpie]

I think he does have a companion or partner, but he's discreet.

We should respect his privacy.

[CrystalGeezer]

:tears:

[nugz]

no one has a signifigant other.

he might have a significant other though.








:o:p

[CrystalGeezer]

Well done, nugz. :)

I always have this fear that if he did have a significant other then there would be this backlash from his "fans" because his songs wouldn't be true, which is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard but makes sense from a fear angle. I was afraid to leave a relationship with an abusive man because of these built-up irrational fears of what he'd do to me if I left. I wonder if Morrissey doesn't have the same sort of relationship with his abusive, bully boyfriend known otherwise as his hyper-critical fanbase and press.

Fuck them, Morrissey. Be happy for yourself. Let someone fill you with love and touch your soul and most importantly, hold you while you doze off and rest your precious brain after a long day of being Morrissey. :o You owe it to yourself to be openly happy.

[Absurd]

We don't know whether he does or doesn't, we can only speculate. If he is discreet about it, there must be a reason.

[Cassius]

'Cause he hasn't met CrystalGeezer. :)

[CrystalGeezer]

'Cause he hasn't met CrystalGeezer. :)

Yeah! This is what I want to hear more of, people. Get on it. :p

[Not Right in the Head]

'Cause he hasn't met CrystalGeezer. :)

Or maybe because he has.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

I am gonna project a little here maybe :o
but I think he met 'the one' and it did not work out
and his heart was destroyed forever by it :tears:

[CrystalGeezer]

And for the record Morrissey, if you're taking notes, my bully boyfriend was a class A jerk for a while after I left, but I got through it and now everything is good.

[CrystalGeezer]

Or maybe because he has.

I've never properly met Morrissey. We had a moment of eye contact at a Russel Brand show and I did brush his arm with my elbow and moan a little, but other than that we've never so much as exchanged a "How do you do?" So in short, you're wrong. :p

[Not Right in the Head]

I've never properly met Morrissey. We had a moment of eye contact at a Russel Brand show and I did brush his arm with my elbow and moan a little, but other than that we've never so much as exchanged a "How do you do?" So in short, you're wrong. :p

Maybe that was enough?

[someofusisturningnasty]

How about "it's nothing to do with us"?

[CrystalGeezer]

Maybe that was enough?

Maybe. But then on a different occasion I saw him play on the Ferguson show and a comedian hugged me and he looked pissed about it, so that gives me hope. Irrational hope, but still, a girl's gotta dream. Why do you delight in dashing them? J-ass. :p

[Not Right in the Head]

Maybe. But then on a different occasion I saw him play on the Ferguson show and a comedian hugged me and he looked pissed about it, so that gives me hope. Irrational hope, but still, a girl's gotta dream. Why do you delight in dashing them? J-ass. :p

I am NRitH, destroyer of dreams!

[CrystalGeezer]

I am NRitH, destroyer of dreams!

That makes you an alarm clock. Although they are essential, nobody likes them. :D

[bored]

no one has a signifigant other.

he might have a significant other though.







:o:p

srsly.. wtf is wrong with my spell check.. it doesn't work in those little boxes. :tears:


I think he does have a companion or partner, but he's discreet.

We should respect his privacy.

I'm not trying to find out his secret.
I'm just curious what people think.

He's certainly got choices.
My vote was a toss up between he is just very discreet and he wants to protect the integrity of the songs.

[AllYouNeedIsMoz]

I think he's probably got one and is just very discreet.

It's probably been various choices in the poll during his career, though.

I can see him not wanting to make his songs untrue.

I can also see him finding the right person and it not working out, and being miserable and sure he'd never love or be loved again.

I also think it would be exceptionally difficult to be Morrissey and have any sort of love life. With Morrissey, there is so much of a persona of alienation that it would be very hard to escape from at times.

[Jones]

I believe what his friends have often said, that he is simply painfully shy when it comes to things like that. The fact that he doesn't even seem to be able to let even close associates see him without his hair perfectly in place seems to suggest the barriers are firmly up at all times.

Can't see him having someone and being able to keep it secret. It just wouldn't be possible with his level of fame.

[sweetness522]

It is hard to judge with Morrissey who are his loves and who are just plain friends. I'd say he has someone, but is very discreet.

[Depeche609]

ROT sounded like he was getting laid, but YOR makes me think he's not again..

Seriously..
I always thought that he did/does have someone, but was very discreet.
BUT...you can be discreet to a point....secret love affairs never remain secret. There's always rumours..strangers hanging out with someone..yada yada yada..and I haven't really heard any rumours of Moz hanging around with a strange woman or man.
Additionally, if you are in love with someone you want to scream it from the rooftops so one of the partners usually slips up.

On a side note...it's a shame if he does have someone and keeps it secret just to protect his career. That can ruin a relationship! I'm a gossip whore so if Morrissey was confirmed with a woman or man I would have extra gossip to look at in my boring day :p

[mspendl828]

Disappointed there isn't a 'I don't care' option.

[gothicarchie]

I've long suspected he's living with Cliff Richard.

[One of your children]

This is a very hard thing to judge,iam 100% sure he is gay(please dont grill me for saying that) though he wants to keep his sexuality a secret or (its no one bissness) i belive he has man friend that is like him self and dont to come out?
but on the other hand someone would of opened there mouth gay or straight about a relationship or sex with morrissey! its a hard one this! but no man will go with out sex of some shape or form for to long! so my opinion is he is having something with one of his men friends that is undercover for both of them. I hope one day he does become open about his love life as i just want to see the boy happy :)

[CrystalGeezer]

It seems like it would be very difficult to have a healthy, secret relationship. I mean, what if you want to go out to dinner or do some shopping at the grocery store together or go grab an ice cream? These things are what life's all about, absorbing and reacting to the world around you together. I hope he gets to experience these things someday.

[Depeche609]

It seems like it would be very difficult to have a healthy, secret relationship. I mean, what if you want to go out to dinner or do some shopping at the grocery store together or go grab an ice cream? These things are what life's all about, absorbing and reacting to the world around you together. I hope he gets to experience these things someday.

Exactly! Not only is Morrissey missing out on those things if he is in a relationship, but his significant other ( if there is one ) will get fed up evenutally.
I know that if my boyfriend told me that I couldn't do this and do that with him I would be like, "Well then I'm not having sex with you!"

[bored]

I also think it would be exceptionally difficult to be Morrissey and have any sort of love life. With Morrissey, there is so much of a persona of alienation that it would be very hard to escape from at times.

I agree. I think this is why Robert Smiff lacks credibility.
I don't know if he is still with his wife but he was with her for many years.

Of course songs come from places of fiction, other points of view or things you happen to feel on a certain day or an observation but I just like it when a song is true (or at least comes across as true).

Not all Morrissey songs are true but the distance between what he portrays as his real life and what his lyrics say it is pretty slim.

I think if Mozzer got married it wouldn't take away from the songs once written but it would seem odd if he kept writing songs about love that failed or never was.


Disappointed there isn't a 'I don't care' option.

That's in the "Other".
I would have put it but I just hadn't thought of it.
I did my best to give lots of choices.
I will be sure to add "mspendl828 doesn't care" to all my polls :D

[Not Right in the Head]

I agree. I think this is why Robert Smiff lacks credibility.
I don't know if he is still with his wife but he was with her for many years.

Wait--he lacks credibility because he was (is?) in a long-term relationship? At least he grew up, something which Morrissey hasn't yet managed to do.

[Kewpie]

Wait--he lacks credibility because he was (is?) in a long-term relationship? At least he grew up, something which Morrissey hasn't yet managed to do.

I disagree with your statement.

People who are in a long term relationship are luckier than who aren't (or vice versa :p).

It's unacceptable to say that because Morrissey isn't openly admitting in a long term relationship he's not a grown up.

[Not Right in the Head]

I disagree with your statement.

People who are in a long term relationship are luckier than who aren't (or vice versa :p).

It's unacceptable to say that because Morrissey isn't openly admitting in a long term relationship he's not a grown up.

In Morrissey's case, I think it's pretty obvious that he's not grown up. He's made a career out of it.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

In Morrissey's case, I think it's pretty obvious that he's not grown up. He's made a career out of it.
one of the many awesome things about him i think :o

[Not Right in the Head]

one of the many awesome things about him i think :o

It makes him a more interesting artist, yes, but I sure as shit wouldn't want to know him in real life. Teenagers are insufferable when they're teens; they're even worse when they're 50.

[CrystalGeezer]

So, CrystalGeezer, with whom do you see him go out to dinner, do some shopping or grab an ice cream? Why do you assume that he does not get to experience these things?

Someone with a good heart, who's empathetic, kind, loving, snarky, whatever. I don't know. I also don't know that he already does these things. I guess once I see a paparazzi shot of him holding hands with someone while walking through the park, I'll know he's going to be okay. :tears:

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

It makes him a more interesting artist, yes, but I sure as shit wouldn't want to know him in real life. Teenagers are insufferable when they're teens; they're even worse when they're 50.
yeah, i suppose, but chicks dig peter pans, am i right or am i right? http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/gulrober/whistling.gif

[Not Right in the Head]

yeah, i suppose, but chicks dig peter pans, am i right or am i right? http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/gulrober/whistling.gif

Ask this guy.
http://www.itescapee.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/gay-peter-pan.jpg

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

Ask this guy.
http://www.itescapee.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/gay-peter-pan.jpg
id rather ask
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/435462195_15749fb905.jpg?v=0
:cool:

[Danny_]

Because he's OK by himself and he doesn't need your homespun philosophy to save him.

I don't get this absolute insistence some people have that everyone is incomplete unless they are part of a couple. It's very conservative and narrow minded.

[CrystalGeezer]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3393/3183032794_37b530788a.jpg

The only Peter Pan I like to consult. Daily.

[Smige]

I wrote a song once called "Morrissey Got a Girlfriend". It went, "All his fans abandoned him, they said that life's unfair, they burned all of his records, but Morrissey didn't care, because Morrissey got a girlfriend, lalala". (I know he's likely not heterosexual, but that wasn't the point).

[CrystalGeezer]

I wrote a song once called "Morrissey Got a Girlfriend". It went, "All his fans abandoned him, they said that life's unfair, they burned all of his records, but Morrissey didn't care, because Morrissey got a girlfriend, lalala". (I know he's likely not heterosexual, but that wasn't the point).

Cool. :p

[sistasheila]

what he said..once

But when I ask if his own lack of trust in others prevents him from becoming close to people, he replies simply: "Yes,it is a lack of trust. I'm simply waiting for people to do something damaging. And they inevitably do."
There is a long pause. Then he adds: "I often wonder, if I was a penniless pauper, would a lot of people that I know want to know me? Maybe they would, but it's more than likely they wouldn't, because when I was a penniless pauper, nobody wanted to know me."
details 94
the last part..hnmmmm

.i do think he has/had "friends with benefits" but it seems to be more loosely so he wouldnt call it a RL


or like he said "thts something i never talk about cause it isnt lasting"

but i wont dig deep into this....

[Stanley Ogden]

What impress me most is how little we know about him. in these days of mediamadness it`s hard to believe that noone even knows if he is in a relationship or not.

We don`t even know where he has been living after Rome! ( he says he does not live in one place, but at least he`s got to have his stuff and his dogs somewhere?) The not having a house and a home might also be because he does not want to give Joyce any royalties?

[PsychodelicateGirl]

I don't get this absolute insistence some people have that everyone is incomplete unless they are part of a couple. It's very conservative and narrow minded.

Do you honestly believe that this is true? I have been thinking about this issue for awhile now; do people genuinely want to always be coupled, in relationships etc, or is it just something they feel pressured to do because of society and biology (in order to procreate and further the species). If these pressures are lifted, then would most (not all) choose to remain single for the majority of their lives? And on the other side of the coin; is it that some are 'Ok by themselves" or is it just self-preservation and acceptance, but somewhere inside them, they still long to fall in love and grow old with someone?
I guess my question is; is lifelong partnership a natural state, or one embedded by society?
And whilst I am yammering on about the topic; "Im Ok By Myself"
The word 'Ok' seems to suggest that, though not an ideal situation, being alone is something Morrissey is saying "I can handle, don't worry about me." Its not a definitive statement, it's not "I Want To Be By Myself! (so fuck off)"

[sistasheila]

W
We don`t even know where he has been living after Rome! ( he says he does not live in one place, but at least he`s got to have his stuff and his dogs somewhere?) The not having a house and a home might also be because he does not want to give Joyce any royalties?

hmm but dont you think its better this way..i dont need to know where he lives....why?
he is a private person (n turally!)and wasnt too happy having throngs of "fans" waiting in front of his door of his old house in LA obv..say him commenting in one of his interviews once ot twice

[Not Right in the Head]

Do you honestly believe that this is true? I have been thinking about this issue for awhile now; do people genuinely want to always be coupled, in relationships etc, or is it just something they feel pressured to do because of society and biology (in order to procreate and further the species). If these pressures are lifted, then would most (not all) choose to remain single for the majority of their lives?

How exactly would you lift the biological pressure to reproduce? We're mammals; mated pairs (or pairs+) go a long way toward helping offspring survive and thrive.


And on the other side of the coin; is it that some are 'Ok by themselves" or is it just self-preservation and acceptance, but somewhere inside them, they still long to fall in love and grow old with someone?
I guess my question is; is lifelong partnership a natural state, or one embedded by society?

Since humans' partnering behavior, regardless of society, pretty closely matches that of our closest animal relatives (chimpanzees), I'd say that it's mostly a natural state. But if chica were here, she'd be sure to bring up the exceptional behavior of bonobo chimps. :D

[CrystalGeezer]

"I Want To Be By Myself! (so fuck off)"

Maybe sometimes he feels this way. I know I do, but not often. :)

[j funk]

ROT sounded like he was getting laid, but YOR makes me think he's not again..

Yeah the lyrics of some of the bleakest in the relationship sense for a while.

Throwing My Arms Around Paris and Thats How People Grow Up in particular. Obviously there were always those lyrics though, as the thread starter has illustrated.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

cmon people, being a couple is the tops
everybody wants that, dont you?
unless maybe you never had true love
i guess not then
but moz must have though
he writes about wanting it so clearly
maybe i am wrong, maybe he is just that brilliant, that insightful without having his heart melded with that of another
wow if so
but i really hope for moz to have a person to share almost all of his life with :)

[PsychodelicateGirl]

Since humans' partnering behavior, regardless of society, pretty closely matches that of our closest animal relatives (chimpanzees), I'd say that it's mostly a natural state. But if chica were here, she'd be sure to bring up the exceptional behavior of bonobo chimps. :D

Whatever happened to Chica? I was wondering why there haven't been more threads on the sex lives of simians and whether or not anal bleaching is sexist. ;)

[CrystalGeezer]

cmon people, being a couple is the tops
everybody wants that, dont you?
unless maybe you never had true love
i guess not then
but moz must have though
he writes about wanting it so clearly
maybe i am wrong, maybe he is just that brilliant, that insightful without having his heart melded with that of another
wow if so
but i really hope for moz to have a person to share almost all of his life with :)

He's going to live into his 90s. That's almost half, IF HE STARTS NOW. (Ahem.) :D

[Sister Rose]

I think it's because he hasn't met the right person yet. Not to say he hasn't had relationships in the past though. Maybe he has got a significant other....it's a mystery!

[Danny_]

Do you honestly believe that this is true? I have been thinking about this issue for awhile now; do people genuinely want to always be coupled, in relationships etc, or is it just something they feel pressured to do because of society and biology (in order to procreate and further the species). If these pressures are lifted, then would most (not all) choose to remain single for the majority of their lives? And on the other side of the coin; is it that some are 'Ok by themselves" or is it just self-preservation and acceptance, but somewhere inside them, they still long to fall in love and grow old with someone?
I guess my question is; is lifelong partnership a natural state, or one embedded by society?
And whilst I am yammering on about the topic; "Im Ok By Myself"
The word 'Ok' seems to suggest that, though not an ideal situation, being alone is something Morrissey is saying "I can handle, don't worry about me." Its not a definitive statement, it's not "I Want To Be By Myself! (so fuck off)"

I don't think you can say that because most people are happier in a relationship that means absolutely everyone else must conform to it otherwise there's something wrong with them.

And "OK" is alright, it's not "blissfully happy" but then how many couples are that? Most people are just "OK". Morrissey is a bit more OK than most, he seems to have a brilliant life from what I can see.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

He's going to live into his 90s. That's almost half, IF HE STARTS NOW. (Ahem.) :D

ahh, i was not clear, of course, i did not mean how many years
i meant how much of his life on i guess you might say a 'daily basis' or whatever
i still think even as a couple people should have separate lives(and i mean apart from work)
otherwise you get too enmeshed which is no good either
did that make it more clear? :D

[CrystalGeezer]

ahh, i was not clear, of course, i did not mean how many years
i meant how much of his life on i guess you might say a 'daily basis' or whatever
i still think even as a couple people should have separate lives(and i mean apart from work)
otherwise you get too enmeshed which is no good either
did that make it more clear? :D

Yes, but codependency makes the world go round. :) If I were Morrissey's girl I'd want him to know my every bowel movement and be there to wipe my bottom if I needed it. :D

[vAndreav]

Do you honestly believe that this is true? I have been thinking about this issue for awhile now; do people genuinely want to always be coupled, in relationships etc, or is it just something they feel pressured to do because of society and biology (in order to procreate and further the species). If these pressures are lifted, then would most (not all) choose to remain single for the majority of their lives? And on the other side of the coin; is it that some are 'Ok by themselves" or is it just self-preservation and acceptance, but somewhere inside them, they still long to fall in love and grow old with someone?
I guess my question is; is lifelong partnership a natural state, or one embedded by society?
And whilst I am yammering on about the topic; "Im Ok By Myself"
The word 'Ok' seems to suggest that, though not an ideal situation, being alone is something Morrissey is saying "I can handle, don't worry about me." Its not a definitive statement, it's not "I Want To Be By Myself! (so fuck off)"

I honestly don't think most people truly enjoy being by themselves. Humans need human contact. We're social creatures. I don't think anyone would really choose to be alone, whether there are pressures or not. I think the only thing you can blame society on is the pressure to "date" and be sexually active. Well, I do also blame society for making people feel even more alone, and therefore seeking relationships. So, yes, being "OK by myself" is just self-preservation. I say partnership is natural and essential; lifelong partnership is great, but not necessarily natural (other non-human animals breed not just with one partner).

Sorry this post had nothing to do with morrissey having a significant other. I think he has had one, or a few, possibly met "the one", and had his heart broken. Also, like someone said I think he is painfully shy, and a difficult person to sometimes get along with. He's very into himself. He might have a hard time finding true connection with one person. I could easily see him finding faults in a person very quickly.

[CrystalGeezer]

I honestly don't think most people truly enjoy being by themselves. Humans need human contact. We're social creatures. I don't think anyone would really choose to be alone, whether there are pressures or not. I think the only thing you can blame society on is the pressure to "date" and be sexually active. Well, I do also blame society for making people feel even more alone, and therefore seeking relationships. So, yes, being "OK by myself" is just self-preservation. I say partnership is natural and essential; lifelong partnership is great, but not necessarily natural (other non-human animals breed not just with one partner).

Well put.

[PsychodelicateGirl]

I was also thinking, that maybe Morrissey's fantasy of a 'significant' other is so out of reach, that no one could ever possibly live up to it.
"The woman of my dreams, never came along.." etc.
I know a man like this, he is now 48 and lives alone, he is always talking about how lonesome he is, but his dream in his mind of who he would spend his life with (which is greatly informed by films and books) is nigh on impossible in the real world, and lets him down every time.
I sometimes think Moz might be like this, or that maybe he (like my friend) could be using this carefully crafted fantasy to keep him from being with someone, because of all the fears of being rejected, abandoned.

[vAndreav]

Well put.
Thanks. And i love your loving, heart-felt posts :)
Like this:



Fuck them, Morrissey. Be happy for yourself. Let someone fill you with love and touch your soul and most importantly, hold you while you doze off and rest your precious brain after a long day of being Morrissey. :o You owe it to yourself to be openly happy.

and this


These things are what life's all about, absorbing and reacting to the world around you together. I hope he gets to experience these things someday.

I agree. I just want to see the boy happy.

[Not Right in the Head]

I was also thinking, that maybe Morrissey's fantasy of a 'significant' other is so out of reach, that no one could ever possibly live up to it.
"The woman of my dreams, never came along.." etc.
I know a man like this, he is now 48 and lives alone, he is always talking about how lonesome he is, but his dream in his mind of who he would spend his life with (which is greatly informed by films and books) is nigh on impossible in the real world, and lets him down every time.
I sometimes think Moz might be like this, or that maybe he (like my friend) could be using this carefully crafted fantasy to keep him from being with someone, because of all the fears of being rejected, abandoned.

I think that this is very, very likely.

[vAndreav]

I was also thinking, that maybe Morrissey's fantasy of a 'significant' other is so out of reach, that no one could ever possibly live up to it.
"The woman of my dreams, never came along.." etc.
I know a man like this, he is now 48 and lives alone, he is always talking about how lonesome he is, but his dream in his mind of who he would spend his life with (which is greatly informed by films and books) is nigh on impossible in the real world, and lets him down every time.
I sometimes think Moz might be like this, or that maybe he (like my friend) could be using this carefully crafted fantasy to keep him from being with someone, because of all the fears of being rejected, abandoned.
yes! exactly what ive been saying for years.

[Mars_Rover]

I wrote a song once called "Morrissey Got a Girlfriend". It went, "All his fans abandoned him, they said that life's unfair, they burned all of his records, but Morrissey didn't care, because Morrissey got a girlfriend, lalala". (I know he's likely not heterosexual, but that wasn't the point).

That song sounds cool! Did you ever record it?

[Gin N Tonic Jil]

How did Rock Hudson get away with it? He was the Tom Cruise of the Hollywood Golden Era...shit, look at Tom Cruise. He's managed to dodge quite a few bullets in this media frenzy society of ours. Stuff like this regarding Moz' sex life, IMO will not come out til his death,60yrs from now. Moz has power, many many people have jobs, good paying jobs, bc of him. So its to everyones best intrest to keep their mouths shut if theyve seen "anything". Spencer started blabbin a few years back....when was the last time we've seen him do anything with Moz? or really anyone?

[Not Right in the Head]

How did Rock Hudson get away with it? He was the Tom Cruise of the Hollywood Golden Era...shit, look at Tom Cruise. He's managed to dodge quite a few bullets in this media frenzy society of ours. Stuff like this regarding Moz' sex life, IMO will not come out til his death,60yrs from now.

Nobody will know who Morrissey is 60 years from now.

[vAndreav]

How did Rock Hudson get away with it? He was the Tom Cruise of the Hollywood Golden Era...shit, look at Tom Cruise. He's managed to dodge quite a few bullets in this media frenzy society of ours. Stuff like this regarding Moz' sex life, IMO will not come out til his death,60yrs from now. Moz has power, many many people have jobs, good paying jobs, bc of him. So its to everyones best intrest to keep their mouths shut if theyve seen "anything". Spencer started blabbin a few years back....when was the last time we've seen him do anything with Moz? or really anyone?

you're right.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

Nobody will know who Morrissey is 60 years from now.

100% not true

[Not Right in the Head]

100% not true

Look at how few people know who he is even now. How many songwriters from the 1940s do you give two shits about?

[Kewpie]

Four people voted He lacks the desire which is very funny.

Morrissey's written many songs about lust / unrequited love / desires to be loved.

[cherrylipstick]

I think what makes Morrissey different from all the "celebrities" is that he's actually not singing about things he makes up but really feels them. Especially in the "music business" or show business love is a fast lived thing. They break up with people and literally 2 days later they have a new "love". That combined with the facts that he's probably been hurt many times like most of us and that he's got a perfect picture of a person that doesnt exist - he might be rather alone than live with a person in order not to be alone which some people do. They are not happy but cant bear to be alone. So he's maybe rather alone than be with a person he's not happy with. And if he likes men or women or both - we'll never know. Also if he's with someone or not. So there's not really so much to talk about:p only guessing and wishful thinking;) and I seriously dont care. I am happy for him whatever he feels is right. And it's kind of refreshing not seeing his wedding pix or the babies in a 8 pages spread in People magazine:rolleyes::D

[bored]

cmon people, being a couple is the tops
everybody wants that, dont you?
unless maybe you never had true love
i guess not then
but moz must have though
he writes about wanting it so clearly
maybe i am wrong, maybe he is just that brilliant, that insightful without having his heart melded with that of another
wow if so
but i really hope for moz to have a person to share almost all of his life with :)

I actually hate being in relationships.
They are a lot of work and all the excitement is at the beginning.
Once I am with someone I find myself wanting to be with someone else instead. Not someone specific... just someone new and different.

For the most part we are either growing or decaying. If we are with the same person too long we start to decay.

I'd rather be meeting new people and having new experiences then putting life on "repeat" and going through the motions.

[bored]

Look at how few people know who he is even now. How many songwriters from the 1940s do you give two shits about?

That all changed in the 50's.
Musicians are now legends.
They used to be legends many many years ago.
Mozart has lasted more than 60 years as did many classical composers.
Morrissey has had too much influence on the music world to be forgotten. Many bands who have had #1 singles will thankfully be forgotten.

[Not Right in the Head]

Mozart has lasted more than 60 years as did many classical composers.

Morrissey isn't a composer.


Morrissey has had too much influence on the music world to be forgotten.

You can't be serious. He's always been a major player in a small niche of the "music world". If he's remembered it all, it will probably be as one of the cleverest lyricists to come out of the 80s, which really isn't saying much.

We'd all like to believe that we're following a living legend, but that's not how reality works.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

that's how i feel. and thats why i dont think lifelong relationships are natural. i think its natural for those feelings to die.
when not listening to moz i listen a lot of apop
l1WpERF80DM
love never dies :o

[AllYouNeedIsMoz]

I actually hate being in relationships.
They are a lot of work and all the excitement is at the beginning.
Once I am with someone I find myself wanting to be with someone else instead. Not someone specific... just someone new and different.

For the most part we are either growing or decaying. If we are with the same person too long we start to decay.

I'd rather be meeting new people and having new experiences then putting life on "repeat" and going through the motions.

I think there has to be a way to grow alongside someone, and I think we're all picking the wrong someones if they cause us to decay or stagnate.

[Danny_]

How did Rock Hudson get away with it? He was the Tom Cruise of the Hollywood Golden Era...shit, look at Tom Cruise. He's managed to dodge quite a few bullets in this media frenzy society of ours. Stuff like this regarding Moz' sex life, IMO will not come out til his death,60yrs from now. Moz has power, many many people have jobs, good paying jobs, bc of him. So its to everyones best intrest to keep their mouths shut if theyve seen "anything". Spencer started blabbin a few years back....when was the last time we've seen him do anything with Moz? or really anyone?

Rock Hudson lived in a different time, different place. He was surrounded by the powerful studio system most of his life.

Morrissey is not a powerful person in the music business at all. If journalists can brand him a racist they can certainly dig into his private life, just as they do with many more powerful celebrities every day. Spencer has said nothing about Morrissey's private life at all and he chose to leave. He wasn't sacked.

[Danny_]

Morrissey isn't a composer.



You can't be serious. He's always been a major player in a small niche of the "music world". If he's remembered it all, it will probably be as one of the cleverest lyricists to come out of the 80s, which really isn't saying much.

We'd all like to believe that we're following a living legend, but that's not how reality works.

He's generally acknowledged as being near the top rung of icons in the UK, maybe not in America, but as he said............

[bored]

Morrissey isn't a composer.



You can't be serious. He's always been a major player in a small niche of the "music world". If he's remembered it all, it will probably be as one of the cleverest lyricists to come out of the 80s, which really isn't saying much.

We'd all like to believe that we're following a living legend, but that's not how reality works.

The songs are compositions.
They have his name on them along with a musical writer. Composer by association ;)

I agree that his legend in the US might not be much but in England in 60 years people will still know who he is.

[Not Right in the Head]

The songs are compositions.
They have his name on them along with a musical writer. Composer by association ;)

Uh, oh--I bet that Danny_'s gonna tell us the difference between a composer and a songwriter again. :D


I agree that his legend in the US might not be much but in England in 60 years people will still know who he is.

Sure, some people will. Maybe as a footnote.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

as an 'adopted son' for Latino Americans, i think he will be remembered in the USA for generations to come :)

[lainey]

he's with J _ _ _

[jesuisbryony]

maybe not in America, but as he said............
Oh not here too! :p

in England in 60 years people will still know who he is.
I will, I promise.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

he's with J _ _ _

i think i know this one
id like to buy a vowel
an e
then spin and say F!

[I am a Ghost]

Because there are things worse in life than never....being....someone's......SWEETIE.

[PsychodelicateGirl]

I actually hate being in relationships.
They are a lot of work and all the excitement is at the beginning.
Once I am with someone I find myself wanting to be with someone else instead. Not someone specific... just someone new and different.

For the most part we are either growing or decaying. If we are with the same person too long we start to decay.

I'd rather be meeting new people and having new experiences then putting life on "repeat" and going through the motions.

Me too. Well I wouldn't say I 'hate' being in relationships, its more that after awhile, I don't like the person I become in relationships, and want to change, or grow or become different, and feel that a relationship prevents me from doing so, because the person I am with will feel let down, or deceived that I am not who I was.
I wish that relationships could be like good books, you can leave them on the shelf and come back to them again and again, knowing there will always be something in them that you treasure. But also that you are allowed to read other books!

[Ready With Ready-Wit]

Nah why would Morrissey be discreet about it? It like it'd be shameful or something. I think it's that he is truly unlovable or he's afraid.

[Not Right in the Head]

I wish that relationships could be like good books, you can leave them on the shelf and come back to them again and again, knowing there will always be something in them that you treasure. But also that you are allowed to read other books!

That's what fuckbuddies and friends are, depending on what you need.

[CrystalGeezer]

He's with Joke? :confused:

[PsychodelicateGirl]

No, he's with Jack

[lainey]

He's with Joke? :confused:

you got my hangman wrong

[vicarinatutugal]

The choices are in the poll.

make a is he gay thread, Bored! go on I dare you :p

[bored]

Nah why would Morrissey be discreet about it? It like it'd be shameful or something. I think it's that he is truly unlovable or he's afraid.

To avoid making all his songs seem phoney.

[CrystalGeezer]

make a is he gay thread, Bored! go on I dare you :p

He could have a gay significant other? That's why he spelled it wrong I thought. Signifigent instead of significunt? :)

[bored]

make a is he gay thread, Bored! go on I dare you :p

Who? Mike Joyce?

[CrystalGeezer]

To avoid making all his songs seem phoney.

You think he still feels compelled to burn the eternal flame of How Soon is Now so suffers daily for it?

[vicarinatutugal]

He could have a gay significant other? That's why he spelled it wrong I thought. Signifigent instead of significunt? :)

well the sig other would be gay seeing as Morrissey is a fella. :p

[bored]

You think he still feels compelled to burn the eternal flame of How Soon is Now so suffers daily for it?

I don't know. I just think its a possibility and he seems like the type that might do something like that.

[vicarinatutugal]

Who? Mike Joyce?

well sometimes I have wondered, all them vests he wore. :p

[vicarinatutugal]

He's with Joke? :confused:

hahahahah I liked that CG

[CrystalGeezer]

you got my hangman wrong

He's with Jerk?

[Franzanna]

he's with J _ _ _

Jean! Joan! You missed some letters out! :p

(And both Jean and Joan are unisex names. It just depends which language you're speaking. :))

One moment - could it be? Our very own Joey? :eek: :D

[lainey]

your all so close....

[vivabob]

joan
jack
jono
jett

... :confused:, i cant think of ANY others

[Franzanna]

your all so close....

What about (dozy) Jozi? *crosses fingers* :p

[Corrissey]

Maybe his standards are too high, not that there's anything wrong with that. Why should he settle for... just anyone?

Maybe he doesn't love himself enough to properly love someone else.

Maybe he is afraid. He should take a chance, love someone full throttle and write some new inspiring music, whether the relationship is great or ends in total disaster. Ultimately, I think he's happier than he lets on, regardless if he has someone or ever will.

[Franzanna]

I remember him saying a loooong time ago about how he'd rather have nothing at all than a 'false something', whichI suppose relates to what lots of people have been saying about his standards being too high and that.

[cornelius blaze]

your all so close....

but he is with Reese Witherspoon :)


http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww237/pondy5xoxo/Couples/002.jpg

[Ready With Ready-Wit]

Cuz he hasn't met me.;)

[jebuschristsuperstar]

If he went public with a significant other the ambiguity will be gone.

[lainey]

I give you a clue, his name rhymes with rake, lake, make, cake, bake, fake, wake, take....ache

[Ready With Ready-Wit]

I give you a clue, his name rhymes with rake, lake, make, cake, bake, fake, wake, take....ache

jeke??

[jebuschristsuperstar]

is he still about?

[cornelius blaze]

I give you a clue, his name rhymes with rake, lake, make, cake, bake, fake, wake, take....ache


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b159/inkgirl85/whatever/brokeback.jpg

[lainey]

Picture clue:
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s204/kenny07photos/moz-1.jpg

[jesuisbryony]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b159/inkgirl85/whatever/brokeback.jpg

Not one of those words rhyme with Heath.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

Picture clue:
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s204/kenny07photos/moz-1.jpg

i have no idea who that is, but based on the url, id say that guy's name is Kenny :p

[Gin N Tonic Jil]

Picture clue:
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s204/kenny07photos/moz-1.jpg


Is that our dear "best friend on the pay-roll" next to Steven? Theres no fuckin way in HELL Id of taken him back! Moz is a hot piece of ass, surely he can do better.:D

[vicarinatutugal]

is he still about?


Is that our dear "best friend on the pay-roll" next to Steven? Theres no fuckin way in HELL Id of taken him back! Moz is a hot piece of ass, surely he can do better.:D

how did you two miss that pic thread? See me after class as you really must keep up.
ps you know Jake took the fantastic recent pics of Moz? :)

[Gin N Tonic Jil]

how did you two miss that pic thread? See me after class as you really must keep up.
ps you know Jake took the fantastic recent pics of Moz? :)

Id seen the pix he took and his website...but, Id not seen any CLEAR shots of Steven and HIM together! Any other snaps? As much as it pains me to even type this but, they do make a cute couple. If Jakes made some serious growing up in his life and Moz aswell, then I believe they'll have a long and happy relationship. Otherwise expect another Mala...you finish the rest, but, another album similar to THAT album.:sick:

[vicarinatutugal]

Id seen the pix he took and his website...but, Id not seen any CLEAR shots of Steven and HIM together! Any other snaps? As much as it pains me to even type this but, they do make a cute couple. If Jakes made some serious growing up in his life and Moz aswell, then I believe they'll have a long and happy relationship. Otherwise expect another Mala...you finish the rest, but, another album similar to THAT album.:sick:

oh Im stressing professional relationship. No other recent snaps about that I know of with the 2 of them, just the old vauxhall pics, you can get them on the comtesse's site if you are interested in them.

[CrystalGeezer]

Jade?

And Cornelius, :clap: on your Reese pic, that was funny! :D

[CrystalGeezer]

Do you think today Morrissey would rather be famous than righteous or holy?

[bhops]

Do you think today Morrissey would rather be famous than righteous or holy?

Depends whose hole it is.

[CrystalGeezer]

So if it was the most famous hole in the world, than he'd be both, right?

[bhops]

So if it was the most famous hole in the world, than he'd be both, right?

Yes he would definately disappear up his own arse.

The most significant other of Morrissey's life is Morrissey.

No-one can ever live up to himself, he's said as much on many occasions. Morrissey will remain the unrequented love of Morrissey's life, the man of his own desires.

And you know what? I think he likes it that way.

[Depeche609]

Picture clue:
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s204/kenny07photos/moz-1.jpg

Is that little Jakey looking all growed up?

[viva hate1]

Sorry this post had nothing to do with morrissey having a significant other. I think he has had one, or a few, possibly met "the one", and had his heart broken. Also, like someone said I think he is painfully shy, and a difficult person to sometimes get along with. He's very into himself. He might have a hard time finding true connection with one person. I could easily see him finding faults in a person very quickly.


i agree,people are not always what they seem,maybe he doesn`t put his trust in people easily,i`m just like that,is very difficult to trust on someone,people always find the way to dissapoint you,even your parents do(well my father have) or maybe he`s too picky i mean he`s gorgeous,he deserves someone good-looking :D on the other hand being gay is nothing to be ashamed of :) (i`m not saying he is) but let`s say he`s on a relationship and he didn`t want anyone to know,how does he manages to keep it secret? we`re in the twenty-one century anyone can turn into a paparazzi,you can take pics with your cell phone,HE`S A FAMOUS PERSON,so the conclusion is:if moz was on a relationship we will find it out already ;)

[esheh195]

but let`s say he`s on a relationship and he didn`t want anyone to know,how does he manages to keep it secret? we`re in the twenty-one century anyone can turn into a paparazzi,you can take pics with your cell phone,HE`S A FAMOUS PERSON,so the conclusion is:if moz was on a relationship we will find it out already ;)

Maybe he just keeps it on the 'down low'...like in his cellar. :D
http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/WanadooFilms/Misdaad/PulpMarselluButch.jpg

[CrystalGeezer]

Besides I have come to the conclusion that him having this significant other would make that album due to be released in February indeed look a bit strange. At least the release date would be a bit unfortunate. But otherwise it is good that Morrissey does not allow this to get in the way of his love.

So, do you think there were enough "discreet" votes to send off paparazzi to take those pictures for us? :D

You think the release date might interfere with his Valentine's day plans? :confused:

I agree. I'm sort of wondering where he is.

[justme]

Can't see him having someone and being able to keep it secret. It just wouldn't be possible with his level of fame.

I think it is possible and in fact he has been able to keep his entire life a secret :eek: I mean what do we know about him? his close family,etc?? well NOTHING :D - and he's been around for 25 years: he's a master of deceit ;) :D

I think since the mid 00's it became clear Moz is more relaxed, happier (if not happy) and I also think there is someone :)

[Quiffaa]

[...] what do we know about him? his close family,etc?? well NOTHING :D -

let me count ... parents, a sister and 2 nephews; one of whom plays in a band.
Would I want to know more?
No.
I could even manage with less :)


I think since the mid 00's it became clear Moz is more relaxed, happier (if not happy)
There might be reasons to be cheerful - 'even for him' ;-)

without having a sex life / love life - with another person. :)

and I would only really care for it /would want to know about his love life if I'd be the person involved/ to be involved.

So I only want to see the boy happy

or content.

(or if he is sad - being comforted if he would like this - but he seems like the person who prefers to be alone while suffering)

[miryam_moz85]

oh,i don't care..i mean it would be interesting..but on the other hand..not THAT much..main thing..don't cancel any shows,please..let us all have a great tour in spring and summer.. have fun..and great live performances..let's rock the hall...oh yes..that's what I care for..!!!

[CrystalGeezer]

You are disappointing me. I thought you'd have a special mental connection with him and knew. My guess is that he is sitting in England watching television.

Well usually. But lately my GPS tracker is off. Dumb period, messes up my whole system. :rolleyes:

[Corrissey]

Maybe he just keeps it on the 'down low'...like in his cellar. :D
http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/WanadooFilms/Misdaad/PulpMarselluButch.jpg

Ha! Ooh, you're so baaad. Great to have you back. :D

[Sister Rose]

He must have a significant other, surely.

[Arsenal]

Why?

Three words: Pump and dump.

I like to believe that Moz and I have many things in common, that being one of them.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Why?

Three words: Pump and dump.

I like to believe that Moz and I have many things in common, that being one of them.

You're both breastfeeding and have been drinking alcohol? I am so confused right now.

[CrystalGeezer]

How do you know that you are not in contact with Miryam or me?

Because I wasn't expressly forbidden to contact you by my domineering teacher after I felt that Morrissey was attempting to contact me many years ago.

[CrystalGeezer]

So why are you still trying to contact Morrissey even though your teacher forbid you to? Have you been doing this for years now? When did it start?

It started when I told my teacher to suck it, that I knew where I belonged. About three years ago.

[nugz]

You're both breastfeeding and have been drinking alcohol? I am so confused right now.

no i think he means breastfeeding and pooping.

[CrystalGeezer]

no i think he means breastfeeding and pooping.

No, he means wham, bam, thank you mam. Pump and Dump. Have sex then move on to the next girl. Classay.

[cornelius blaze]

Jade?

And Cornelius, :clap: on your Reese pic, that was funny! :D

I made CG smile:)


Maybe he just keeps it on the 'down low'...like in his cellar. :D
http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/WanadooFilms/Misdaad/PulpMarselluButch.jpg


excellent work:D



I like to believe that Moz and I have many things in common, that being one of them.

that you are closet homosexual?


well you only visit threads that have to do with relationship topics, so you are forced to mention it, HA!

he going on about AGAIN. :D

[marred]

do you not listen to his lyrics or what?

[CeciDeMorrissey]

He doesn't because he hasn't met me yet... plain and simple :D

[Quiffaa]

He doesn't because he hasn't met me yet... plain and simple :D


I found reading his interviews and some things of his influences very rewarding and wished I had known them earlier. A lot of topics that I had already done a lot of thinking on and I realized I could have had it a bit easier by just reading these things instead of wasting my own brain energy. Don't know if it had also made life even more easier than it already had been. ;);)

I agree completely to these two posts :);

someone asked about his family and 'significant other' meaning his private lovelife, that is why I answered the way I did


let me count ... parents, a sister and 2 nephews; one of whom plays in a band.
Would I want to know more?
No.
I could even manage with less :)


There might be reasons to be cheerful - 'even for him' ;-)

without having a sex life / love life - with another person. :)

and I would only really care for it /would want to know about his love life if I'd be the person involved/ to be involved.

So I only want to see the boy happy

or content.

(or if he is sad - being comforted if he would like this - but he seems like the person who prefers to be alone while suffering)

Or .. he married himself :D

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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8c72qBr0HA&feature=related

Sparks - I Married Myself
I married myself
I'm very happy together
I married myself
I'm very happy together

I married myself
I'm very happy together
Long, long walks on the beach, lovely times
I married myself, I'm very happy together
Candlelight dinners home, lovely times

This time it's gonna last, this time it's gonna last
Forever, forever, forever

[Quiffaa]

Hi Silke,

don't get me wrong, please:

his views on God and her sister do interest me,
esp. his views about themes important to me.

I read enough to trust his character around - as far as interviews and somesuch can be trusted -

I would read even about his favourite type of tea,
(mostly because I trust him to do this in a very witty and - if that is possible for anyone- him to do that in an insightful way).

I 'd listen to him reading from any audio book (telephone book by moz even), because he has a very fine speaking voice too

But
whomever he is having sex with - if at all ...
Things would be different if I was personally involved.

the names of his kids - if at all ...

frankly, I am not interested in the least.

Only that I wish him to enjoy his private parts and private life.

[travelcard]

i think it really doesn't matter if he has a so-called significant other or not... and wether he has or not would not necessarily make him or his songs untrue, simply because art cannot be perceived literally, right? sometimes he says he needs someone, sometimes he says he want to be left alone.. i dont mean contradictions are bad, its actually the other way around, we all have mixed feelings now and then and we all change our mind through time. thats reality. and coming back to the topic again, i think that if he has someone and is trying to hide the person is simply because no one has nothing to do with his private life. the moz we believe in lives is own life as he pleases and does not care about the other's opinion, so why would he pretend to be a loner just for show-off purposes? that doesnt make sense to me, really.

[Vauxhall95]

There wasn't an option for "I couldn't fucking care less and what is the point of this poll?"

Could someone add one please, then maybe I'd vote.

[travelcard]

There wasn't an option for "I couldn't fucking care less and what is the point of this poll?"

Could someone add one please, then maybe I'd vote.

finally something well said here! straight to the point, lol!

[Claudia2006]

loooool at the thread from the archives at the bottom of this page:

"Doesn't Anybody Care That Morrissey's Shagging This Random Person? Doesn't Anyone Care???"

WTF? Sadly it has no replies identifying the "random person" Moz was apparently shagging in 2006. :confused: :rolleyes:

[Kewpie]

loooool at the thread from the archives at the bottom of this page:

"Doesn't Anybody Care That Morrissey's Shagging This Random Person? Doesn't Anyone Care???"

WTF? Sadly it has no replies identifying the "random person" Moz was apparently shagging in 2006. :confused: :rolleyes:


Back in 2006 majority of the forum users were savvier and civilized to ignore a thread posted by one of the notrious trolls.

[Not Right in the Head]

Back in 2006 majority of the forum users were savvier and civilized to ignore a thread posted by one of the notrious trolls.

Really? A random glance at the archives makes it look like about 80% of what went on here was trolling.

[Claudia2006]

loooool at the thread from the archives at the bottom of this page:

"Doesn't Anybody Care That Morrissey's Shagging This Random Person? Doesn't Anyone Care???"

WTF? Sadly it has no replies identifying the "random person" Moz was apparently shagging in 2006. :confused: :rolleyes:


Back in 2006 majority of the forum users were savvier and civilized to ignore a thread posted by one of the notrious trolls.

Um, I was being sarcastic, hence the loooool and the :rolleyes:



Really? A random glance at the archives makes it look like about 80% of what went on here was trolling.

But in any case, this is 100% true. I came here for the first time in 2006 not long after ROTT came out and lurked but didn't register for months b/c it was so bad.

[Oscarlette]

Is YOR enough proof of how is love life is at this present time? duhh

Even when he was with/seeing/sleeping or just living with jake everyone knew that. It would be impossible for moz to keep it a secret unless his partner was a complete hermit.