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[bored]

So many of the songs have the same style ending where the song is moving a long fast.. Morrissey sings the last line as the song slows and stops.

That is probably my biggest criticism of the album.

[Not Right in the Head]

We needed a whole new thread to discuss this?

[troubleluvsme]

We needed a whole new thread to discuss this?

bored may be the anti-kewpie.

Splitting threads, rather than merging them. :)

[stux]

I'll try and contribute in the spirit of this thread!

I'm absolutely bemused at the end of You were good in your time. I know people say you should leave 'em wanting more but it's like there is half of the song missing. The song builds brilliantly, works up to something and then ........... stops.

I'm hoping someone has doctored the rip and there is another 4 minutes on the released CD!

[Kewpie]

bored may be the anti-kewpie.

Splitting threads, rather than merging them. :)



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http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=70140#12 :D

[Vauxhall95]

I'll try and contribute in the spirit of this thread!

I'm absolutely bemused at the end of You were good in your time. I know people say you should leave 'em wanting more but it's like there is half of the song missing. The song builds brilliantly, works up to something and then ........... stops.

I'm hoping someone has doctored the rip and there is another 4 minutes on the released CD!

Well, I doubt we'll get your ending, but I'll certainly be re-encoding this track with a quick fade out after Morrissey's last lyric. I wish I could be "bemused." To me the song is a classic until that dreadful ending. Leave that for b-sides like "Moonriver" and "Black Eyed Susan" not an album track!:tears:

[jesuisbryony]

Well, I doubt we'll get your ending, but I'll certainly be re-encoding this track with a quick fade out after Morrissey's last lyric. I wish I could be "bemused." To me the song is a classic until that dreadful ending. Leave that for b-sides like "Moonriver" and "Black Eyed Susan" not an album track!:tears:

Ahh, but if he had it as a b-side people would complain that it wasn't on the album.:rolleyes:
I'm sure he's done it for some reason unbeknown to us.

[vivabob]

i quite like the way they end , i would rather that than the southpaw style long songs

[mspendl828]

So many of the songs have the same style ending where the song is moving a long fast.. Morrissey sings the last line as the song slows and stops.

That is probably my biggest criticism of the album.

So many? Maybe I'm just being stupid, but does that not only happy on Good In Your Time? And then it's for dramatic affect for than anything as death is as good a place to end the song as anything else.

I understand why this is considered to be a 'dreadful' ending of the song at all.

[bored]

So many? Maybe I'm just being stupid, but does that not only happy on Good In Your Time? And then it's for dramatic affect for than anything as death is as good a place to end the song as anything else.

I understand why this is considered to be a 'dreadful' ending of the song at all.

Paris does it.. he starts singing the lyrics slower and then the song ends.

Carol does it.. "...never comes... oh oh oh" the whole thing slows down for the oh's.. it speeds back up but its just got that stalled out sound to it.

Goodbye/Farwell... "grab.. me.. while.. we.. still.... have.... the... time...." is another.

Good in Your Time "..just died" is another stall-out


That's 1/3 of the songs... and yes, this needed it's own thread. Everything should have it's own thread. One for favourite song. One to rank the album. One to talk about what the singles should be. One to talk about the way the vocals end.

We also need a new thread about the drummers.
We need a thread to ask which Finn was better on, Quarry or Refusal.
Do you still think Morrissey is gay?
Do you still think Morrissey is not gay?
How much would you pay to hear Johnny Marr play all of Kill Uncle with his son on vocals?
Have you changed your stance on eating animals?
What is your dream setlist for the new tour?
What is your predicted setlist for the new tour?

So much to do!

[mspendl828]

But don't, y'know, most songs end after the lyrics/melody have finished?

What do you want from the songs after the lyrics end? Personally I'm all for prog rock-outs like Southpaw, but I would imagine I'm in the minority.

[Not Right in the Head]

How much would you pay to hear Johnny Marr play all of Kill Uncle with his son on vocals?

He'd have to pay me to listen to that. :D

[bored]

But don't, y'know, most songs end after the lyrics/melody have finished?

What do you want from the songs after the lyrics end? Personally I'm all for prog rock-outs like Southpaw, but I would imagine I'm in the minority.

It's the way that he just keeps slowing the vocals down.

I also would like more prog rock sounds.
While there is a lot of guitar, like most Smiths and Moz songs.. guitar solos, even 4 bars is hard to come by on this record.

[mspendl828]

He needs to get Dave Gilmour on the phone to replace Alain ;)

[Danny_]

It's the way that he just keeps slowing the vocals down.

I also would like more prog rock sounds.
While there is a lot of guitar, like most Smiths and Moz songs.. guitar solos, even 4 bars is hard to come by on this record.

Why on earth would you expect guitar solos and no slow vocals on a Morrissey album? :confused: I think you're looking for another artist.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

So many of the songs have the same style ending where the song is moving a long fast.. Morrissey sings the last line as the song slows and stops.

That is probably my biggest criticism of the album.

i noticed this too, but this is what makes the album kind of Blink-182ish

[troubleluvsme]

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http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=70140#12 :D

That's funny! :D

Honestly, for the life of me I can't believe you were able to look that up so fast!
I'm impressed :guitar::guitar:...

btw, I didn't mean that he didn't lovvvve you, I just meant he was the opposite of you because he made a new thread similar to the other ones!

[Corrissey]

i noticed this too, but this is what makes the album kind of Blink-182ish

Oh no...whether you meant that in a good or bad way. Wait, it can only be bad.

[Slip-In]

My greatest hope is All You Need Is Me and That's How People Grow Up will not appear on the actual CD and that these two songs be replaced with other songs but of course that won't be the case, grrrrrrrrrr.

[AllYouNeedIsMoz]

Weird, I noticed the same thing about the third song in. Black Cloud really rocks there at the end and then...it's over. Like musical premature ejaculation.:confused:

[Comtesse]

So many of the songs have the same style ending where the song is moving a long fast.. Morrissey sings the last line as the song slows and stops.

That is probably my biggest criticism of the album.

Yes, I agree. It's quite annoying. The songs sound half-written. It's like everyone got bored half-way through the songs and they said, "Okay, well, that's not working very well, so let's just finish that and move on to the next one." Sigh.

I was REALLY hoping that he'd finish "Paris" and "Farewell" for the album, but that was a futile hope.

[westendgirl]

That's 1/3 of the songs... and yes, this needed it's own thread. Everything should have it's own thread. One for favourite song. One to rank the album. One to talk about what the singles should be. One to talk about the way the vocals end.

We also need a new thread about the drummers.
We need a thread to ask which Finn was better on, Quarry or Refusal.
Do you still think Morrissey is gay?
Do you still think Morrissey is not gay?
How much would you pay to hear Johnny Marr play all of Kill Uncle with his son on vocals?
Have you changed your stance on eating animals?
What is your dream setlist for the new tour?
What is your predicted setlist for the new tour?

So much to do!

I agree that this needs it's own thread, though I haven't actually heard 'the' album yet so can't comment on what you've chosen a topic of discussion on.

As for the work to be done: :D :D :D can't wait. :p

[Dave]

this thread should have an abrupt en

[stux]

Why on earth would you expect guitar solos and no slow vocals on a Morrissey album? :confused: I think you're looking for another artist.

I know what you are saying but in the case of Black Cloud it wasn't us that invited Jeff Beck to play on the song. If he's going to appear surely you have to let him do his thing and when the song is building and everyone is thinking "Right, this is now going to be handed over to Jeff Beck" why stop the flaming song!!

I want the album with all the other bits in PLEEEEASE. Hopefully there will be a directors cut version soon.

[Danny_]

I know what you are saying but in the case of Black Cloud it wasn't us that invited Jeff Beck to play on the song. If he's going to appear surely you have to let him do his thing and when the song is building and everyone is thinking "Right, this is now going to be handed over to Jeff Beck" why stop the flaming song!!

I want the album with all the other bits in PLEEEEASE. Hopefully there will be a directors cut version soon.

No, not really. Jeff Beck agreed to work on a Morrissey album, not some classic rock shite.

[Velvis]

We also need a new thread about the drummers.


Good idea!

[Orson Swells]

So many of the songs have the same style ending where the song is moving a long fast.. Morrissey sings the last line as the song slows and stops.

That is probably my biggest criticism of the album.

Well, I think this is exactly what gives the album its great sense of cohesion and character. In fact, the only song to fade out, as if making a point, is the final track - so it's all clearly deliberate...

[Irryco]

Yeah, I agree, most of the songs end before they have developed fully. But well, the main annoyance must be You were good in your time. It feels as if it could be one of the most beautiful Moz-songs then it just ends when it is about to get really good. Lost potential.

[bored]

That's funny! :D

Honestly, for the life of me I can't believe you were able to look that up so fast!
I'm impressed :guitar::guitar:...

btw, I didn't mean that he didn't lovvvve you, I just meant he was the opposite of you because he made a new thread similar to the other ones!

I'm sure she has it bookmarked ;)

I know I do!

[Kewpie]

I'm sure she has it bookmarked ;)

I know I do!

:eek:

I never use bookmark!

[speedfreaks ball]

the end of "sorry" sounds like sparks.