Moz at The Pigalle Club: Years of Refusal lyrics scans

[Anin (or at least i was)]

This morning at The Pigalle club on Piccadilly Morrissey introduced Years Of Refusal to about 60 people, mostly journalists I presume.
I loved it. He was looking good.
Don't bother with the thumbnails, here are the lyrics (this time large enough to read)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m9nok3

[Anin (or at least i was)]

>>>>>

[Dow Jones]

I cannot wait to hear him sing "woo."
"Choke myself to please you" HAHAHA WHAT

oh mozzer

[Anin (or at least i was)]

>>>>>

[Ben Budd]

These look fantastic, thank you. But any chance of an enlargement? My eyesight isn't what it once was I am afraid.

[Kewpie]

Wow, lucky you!

Thanks very much for the heads up.

Which publication or website we'll see your photographs of Morrissey? :)

[devout]

From Q News:

Morrissey unveiled his new album today, possibly his most rocking collection to date. And the man himself was on hand to introduce the new release, Years Of Refusal, which is due out on February 16.

Moz quipped that the child on the cover of the album was his own when he appeared at a playback for the 12-track release. “I’m the person in the picture which is not Photoshopped – that’s my son. This is my new album. Please, God, you like it,” he said as he premiered the album at London’s Pigalle club.

The new album is heavy on power chords on tracks on opener Something Is Squeezing My Skull, but there are touches of Mariachi elsewhere, while You Were Good In Your Time is lush and cinematic, ending with a wash of effects and snatched noises.

Morrissey said nothing about a report in today’s story in the Mirror that The Smiths were about to reform.

[Anin (or at least i was)]

Ok, larger scans in the zip file link now http://www.sendspace.com/file/m9nok3

[Claudia2006]

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!

You Were Good In Your Time is heartbreaking. :tears:

I love them all, lyrics wise anyway. :sweet:

[Mozza220559]

Thanks, great post.

[Dow Jones]

Hilarious lyric aside, thanks a ton for these! :D:D

[Mozza220559]

I knew this would get merged!

[mspendl828]

Many thanks for the download link.

[Kewpie]

Any moderators online?
You could delete this while I scan a little larger

Thank you very much for all your effort.
We'd be really grateful if you could add larger scans to this thread. :)

[mspendl828]

You could delete this while I scan a little larger

Having downloaded them this is a great idea :D

[Anin (or at least i was)]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m9nok3

BIGGER

[mspendl828]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m9nok3

BIGGER

Awesome, many thanks!

[sweetness522]

Thank you, Anin. It's all very exciting.

[chasingtheblue]

Thanks, these are great! I like Black Cloud especially, and When Last I Spoke to Carol is intriguing...

[Je Suis Julie]

Aww man, I'm just about ready to dash out the door. No time to read right now.

Maybe I should wait til the album comes out.

oh, WHO AM I KIDDING?

I'll be back.

Thanks, Anin!!!

[mspendl828]

Having just given them a quick look over they all seem quite promising.

[GlasgowChivas]

Thank you Anin

Will be back once I've read them

GC

[someofusisturningnasty]

Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou so much :)

[Claudia2006]

"Choke myself to please you" HAHAHA WHAT

oh mozzer

The tiny print made me do a double take on that one. Then I had your exact reaction. :p Honestly Morrissey. :D

[mozzia]

Thanks very much :)

[xfranklyx]

thanks for posting!!!!! i cant wait for this to come out!

just wondering, was this a "invite only" kind of thing? how did you get these pages?

thanks again!

[David]

These are his best lyrics in a long time. Thank you very much.

[Jose]

Thanks Anin, you're a star! http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7996/worshippywx0.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[CrystalGeezer]

Could someone explain who or what the Pigalle Club is? :o

[xfranklyx]

i just reread everyone of the songs i havent heard yet.... I. CAN. NOT. WAIT!!!!!!

how soon is now! hehehe sorry, that was cheap.

[starless]

Thanks for that. I can't wait to hear the songs.

[CrystalGeezer]

Wow. I've just read the lyrics. Especially the last one. It was nice talking to you all. Bye.

[Dow Jones]

Wow. I've just read the lyrics. Especially the last one. It was nice talking to you all. Bye.
Morrissey wanted me to give this to you:

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s332/heyuseless/bre_24.jpg

srylol :tears::p

[CrystalGeezer]

Morrissey's such an asshole. :( :)

[Mozza220559]

These lyrics certainly look very interesting in print.

Can't wait to hear Morrissey crooning them especially the screeches of "Nooooooo" in "I'm OK By Myself"!

[Kewpie]

Could someone explain who or what the Pigalle Club is? :o


It used to be a cinema, but now a night club where also hosts live concert.

Marianne Faithfull did some shows in there few years ago.

[CrystalGeezer]

I don't mean to get all homespun here, but he's certainly channeling a lot of hatred for his lifetime predicament of being chained to the pedestal.

[sistasheila]

your opinions on the lyrics so far/your "rate"/"interpretations" so far?


"interpretations"
as for interpretations..well..he is pretty straight forward in his lyrics so there is no "innuendo" /to puzzle about ...

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Last line of "Sorry Doesn't Help" immediately made me think of "November Spawned a Monster."

Every one an ode to refusal. No, no, no, times twelve.

[modrevolve]

can someone post the bigger versions..I can't download at work..cheers

[CrystalGeezer]

your opinions on the lyrics so far/your "rate"/"interpretations" so far?


as for interpretations..well..he is pretty straight forward in his lyrics so there is no "innuendo" /to puzzle about ...

Oh, okay. Well that's that. It's a wrap, there's nothing to discuss here. :mad:

[sistasheila]

Oh, okay. Well that's that. It's a wrap, there's nothing to discuss here. :mad:
i didnt say that...:confused:
what i meant/ was that most of his YOR lyrics are pretty straight forward
so most lines are (or seems to be) pretty clear what is it about
..I wouldnt have asked about opinions if i wasnt interested in a discussion, right?
and for a lot of lyrics he wrote in the past it wasnt clear what is exactly was about...
no need to be mad...:sweet:

[CrystalGeezer]

i didnt say that...:confused:
what i meant was that his YOR lyrics are pretty straight forward so most lines are pretty clear what is it about ..I wouldnt have asked about opinions if i wasnt interested in a discussion, right?
and for a lot of lyrics he wrote in the past it wasnt clear what is was exactly about...
no need to be mad...:sweet:

Suddenly you have a firm grasp of English now. So how's your mom doing, you know, after the bomb scare and all?

[sistasheila]

Suddenly you have a firm grasp of English now. So how's your mom doing, you know, after the bomb scare and all?
..i hope your mum is never in the danger of such thing..why exactly you bring that topic up-here?
..well other than hurting me? what hat has it to do with the thread?
and you really expect me to think about the correct phrasing while i did type it back then...when I this has nothing to do with the thread
could say something more to you but I spare that..i wont post any replies to you inside in this thread but edit and write it in here
delete this sentence and your hijacking, if you have some manners...
i can scan my mums postcard which I have received if tht makes you any happier..
.you mean,nasty XXX

edit: to your nasty assumptions further down which make your first comment relatively harmless: thts bullshit..I have edited the first post on the India thread ,yes cause i have submitted some more info. to it.a comment or anything like that.which i hadnt written in the first moment i did post it...so naturally i did get back and write more
how could you dare say that i made that up..who would made such a thing up? i love my mum more than life...so i have really no words for this
the other posts i made at that day that followed the first post back then are unedited..that you even imply something like that is beyond my imagination ..
oh how is your dog doing btw?
see ?
does that make you feel good ?
so-was it necessary to say such things?

one last thing and edit today:you calling me phoney?you telling me in another thread a day before that you "like me"? do you backstabbing people you like with such insults like you did?if you dont like me well thts absolutely fine with me.then say it but dont untrue things,.and what you said to me is phoney as hell..saying that you like someone and the next day saying things like you did to me.

I have flaws like every human being,.but im not backstabbering and devious like you. i didnt know what was up with my mum and just wanted someone to calm me down. as i said in the other thread if i had reached my frend immediately i wouldnt have post the thread i did reach my friend when i logged off later when i tried again.calling her and she calmed me down
if i dont like somebody here i ignore them but dont tell them i like them as you have and say something as low to them the other day-i have no problem if people cursing at me with the f word or wjhatever cause its not personally hurting me. i got the occasional curse from the boys every once in a while who are living in my neighbourhood but it doesnt affect me
but what you did and said to me a few posts further down here is much much more mean as any swear word could ever be
.if you dont like me then put me on the ignore button or whatever
and dont bother to insult me elsewhere i wont be able to read it anyway ans wont react



to all here: return TO THE TOPIC NOW-the lyrics!

[Dave2006]

This morning at The Pigalle club on Piccadilly Morrissey introduced Years Of Refusal to about 60 people, mostly journalists I presume.
I loved it. He was looking good.
Don't bother with the thumbnails, here are the lyrics (this time large enough to read)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m9nok3

Does this mean that you are also in possession of the album as well...any chance you could be the first of the gang to leak?

Dave

[crimes]

So how's your mom doing, you know, after the bomb scare and all?
What the fuck has that got to do with this thread?

[CrystalGeezer]

..i hope your mum is never in the danger of such thing..why exactly you bring that topic up-here?
..well other than hurting me? what hat has it to do with the thread?
and you really expect me to think about the correct phrasing while i did type it back then...when I this has nothing to do with the thread

This is EXACTLY what this album is about sistasheila. You responded naturally then went back, reread it, and weirded you post up to make it look as though you're not a native English speaker. You added the forward slash. I think Moz doesn't tolerate phonies.

[Dow Jones]

This is EXACTLY what this album is about sistasheila. You responded naturally then went back, reread it, and weirded you post up to make it look as though you're not a native English speaker. You added the forward slash. I think Moz doesn't tolerate phonies.
Wait.



What?

[CrystalGeezer]

What the fuck has that got to do with this thread?

Go fuck yourself.

[yesitis]

yeah. someone's gone insane.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

This is EXACTLY what this album is about sistasheila. You responded naturally then went back, reread it, and weirded you post up to make it look as though you're not a native English speaker. You added the forward slash. I think Moz doesn't tolerate phonies.

I think you need to back down, CG. SistaSheila did nothing to you. Let me guess, you were born in 1975 and now you're paranoid and pissed off? Go for a walk.

[crimes]

Go fuck yourself.
:tears:

[CrystalGeezer]

I think you need to back down, CG. SistaSheila did nothing to you. Let me guess, you were born in 1975 and now you're paranoid and pissed off? Go for a walk.

I was born in 1974. Don't you all see that...nevermind.

[EPbabe]

What's going on on this thread? Why is CG attacking sistasheila? :confused:

[Dow Jones]

What's going on on this thread? Why is CG attacking sistasheila? :confused:

That is one of life's greatest mysteries, madam.

[crimes]

That is one of life's greatest mysteries, madam.
Haha :D

[CrystalGeezer]

What's going on on this thread? Why is CG attacking sistasheila? :confused:

Because I'm trying to estblish that I'm crazy so that when finally get to analyzing the lyrics you'll all think I'm insane and dismiss what I have to say. It's an elaborate plan which I personally think SUCKS ASS. And she's a phony. And I have a bad cold.

[Danny_]

Well I'm totally bemused. :confused: :D

The Guardian have some initial impressions (it's not a review, you can't review an album after only hearing it once)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog

[EPbabe]

Because I'm trying to estblish that I'm crazy so that when finally get to analyzing the lyrics you'll all think I'm insane and dismiss what I have to say. It's an elaborate plan which I personally think SUCKS ASS. And she's a phony. And I have a bad cold.

You never cease to amaze me. Sorry you have a cold.

What plan? :confused:

[Kewpie]

Well I'm totally bemused. :confused: :D

The Guardian have some initial impressions (it's not a review, you can't review an album after only hearing it once)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog


Thank you very much Danny.

Jude Rogers's review gives a better grasp than a Swedish journalist's.

[CrystalGeezer]

You never cease to amaze me. Sorry you have a cold.

What plan? :confused:

Thanks, I'm miserable. My throat is on fire.

No plan in particular. Not my plan though I get myself into these predicaments so maybe I subconsciously want you all to think I'm crazy. I don't know.

For more information on dealing with liars and an attempt to bring back on topic, the following:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3032/3100829542_5128a8f6d0_b.jpg

[vivabob]

This morning at The Pigalle club on Piccadilly Morrissey introduced Years Of Refusal to about 60 people, mostly journalists I presume.
I loved it. He was looking good.
Don't bother with the thumbnails, here are the lyrics (this time large enough to read)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m9nok3

thanks for the insight anin

[Mozza220559]

I was born in 1974.

Wow! That's one year before Carol was born in the eponymous "When Last I Spoke To Carol", a track from the upcoming Morrissey album "Years Of Refusal".

Morrissey. Morrissey. Morrissey.

That is what this part of the forum is supposed to be about, right?

[CrystalGeezer]

Wow! That's one year before Carol was born in the eponymous "When Last I Spoke To Carol", a track from the upcoming Morrissey ablum "Years Of Refusal".

Morrissey. Morrissey. Morrissey.

That is what this part of the forum is supposed to be about, right?

Okay asshole, you took this out of context. Pregs suggested I was claiming I was Carol and I was telling her I wasn't claiming to be anyone. You know what? Fuck off. There's some homespun logic you can shove up your ass.

[Mozza220559]

Okay asshole, you took this out of context. Pregs suggested I was claiming I was Carol and I was telling her I wasn't claiming to be anyone. You know what? Fuck off. There's some homespun logic you can shove up your ass.

Well, who here is Carol, then? And more importantly, when did you last speak to her?

[CrystalGeezer]

I don't know but I have a feeling she has a dented trunk. I hate that I'm cussing so terribly on the thread announcing Morrissey's amazing album lyrics. I think they're beautiful as poetry aside from figuring out the meaning. Must be pent up attacker/attackee rage, or the fact that I'm fighting infection.

[yesitis]

no. it's probably that you're fucking nuts.

[CrystalGeezer]

no. it's probably that you're fucking nuts.

Probably. At least I'm good for a laugh for all of you sane people.

[xfranklyx]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. amazing turn of events.

[yesitis]

i'm not laughing.

i think you need help. you started ranting about someone's concern for the safety of a member of their family because you disagreed with this person about the lyrics to a pop song. this is not a mentally healthy reaction.

[jesuisbryony]

Probably. At least I'm good for a laugh for all of you sane people.

I wouldn't say a laugh. Maybe confused/concerned.

Anyway, the lyrics and the Guardian's review seem great. So many thanks for both. :)

[Mozza220559]

I don't know but I have a feeling she has a dented trunk. I hate that I'm cussing so terribly on the thread announcing Morrissey's amazing album lyrics. I think they're beautiful as poetry aside from figuring out the meaning. Must be pent up attacker/attackee rage, or the fact that I'm fighting infection.


Yes, yes, please calm down! This is not the way of the Morrissey fan!

It feels almost churlish to go back to talking about the new lyrics, which is nice in a way because I've forgotten what they said after this recent confusing turn of events.

[Danny_]

Isn't there a chat room for people to argue in? It's like a chatroom for teenagers on this forum sometimes. :rolleyes:

[Danny_]

Thanks to Anin for the lyrics.

Having read them, I now feel a bit better about him including the two old singles. They just seem to fit lyrically really.

Is this the bleakest lyrical album he's ever written? It seems very much so to me.

[mell]

Thanks so much, Anin!!! :)

[CrystalGeezer]

Yes, thank you Anin.

[Tbevie]

Thanks a lot Anin. :)

[Mr Smith]

This morning at The Pigalle club on Piccadilly Morrissey introduced Years Of Refusal to about 60 people, mostly journalists I presume.
I loved it. He was looking good.
Don't bother with the thumbnails, here are the lyrics (this time large enough to read)



Can I befriend you and leech off your Morrissey contacts?

[CrystalGeezer]

So Anin, what do you think of the album?

[Anaesthesine]

Thanks for the lyrics, Anin -

Just the thing for a cold, rainy day; these are suitably bleak (I'm particularly fond of "Carol").

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I'm now in the habit of enjoying each day to its fullest, but I'm really, really eager for Feb. 16th- 23rd- whenever to arrive. "Sorry Doesn't Help" is growing on me really fast.

Thanks, Anin.

[still ill life]

Thanks, these are great! I like Black Cloud especially, and When Last I Spoke to Carol is intriguing...

What (s)he said.

[Anin (or at least i was)]

I just read the Guardian review - http://tinyurl.com/6fuytu - and have to say the last 2 tracks, Sorry Doesn't Help & I'm OK By Myself are far from plodding & uninspired. They're great. Honestly.

[CeciDeMorrissey]

When I read when he said "that's my son"... Oh my.. I got goosebumps!!! The sole idea just sounds so beautiful.... If I could only be the mother of the baby :D :horny:

[jm26]

It's Not Your Birthday Anymore "builds into a chorus the size of Manchester."

From The Guardian article.

I personally can't wait for February 16th.

[jesuisbryony]

http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/e3i9a7a67698d1308f833a368f3b36a5b41

from Google News, I haven't read it yet.



"Even if you don't like the music you are about to hear, thank you for coming ... Please, God, you'll like it." :p

[Danny_]

Another song by song review:

http://www.gigwise.com/features/48155/Morrissey---Years-Of-Refusal-The-Worlds-First-Listen

[CrystalGeezer]

“I’m the person in the picture which is not Photoshopped – that’s my son. This is my new album. Please, God, you like it,”

This is how I read it, keep in mind I'm crazy but give it a chance. He says he's the person in the photo who isn't photoshopped (hint: the one wearing the butterfly having emerged from the cocoon who's holding him.) Then he says "that's my son" indicating the other person in the photo meaning his ACTUAL body. He called himself "the son." He self-pronounced.

[emma1979]

is that child his son really.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

This is how I read it, keep in mind I'm crazy but give it a chance. He says he's the person in the photo who isn't photoshopped (hint: the one wearing the butterfly having emerged from the cocoon who's holding him.) Then he says "that's my son" indicating the other person in the photo meaning his ACTUAL body. He called himself "the son." He self-pronounced.

Unless there was a comma in there that didn't make the final transcription. :rolleyes:

[jesuisbryony]

is that child his son really.

Yes, born from the the artificial womb he had implanted, Morrissey is a man of his word.

[mcrickson]

The lyrics of "Carol" reminded me instantly of "Late Night, Maudlin Street" with references back to the 70s and Mozza's past. Maybe this is more of an autobiographical album than we think. I'm crossing my fingers that at least one of the ballads becomes a single, though I've got this feeling like we'll be wishing "Carol" was a YOR single like some of us wished "Pigsty" was a ROTT single...

So...shall we get started on song-by-song lyrical analysis? :D
I am extremely excited!

[mademoiselle x]

Now that I have read the lyrics I am even more excited about the album.
I need to hear Sorry Doesn't Help. I love the lyrics!!

[yesitis]

Yes, born from the the artificial womb he had implanted, Morrissey is a man of his word.

http://s4.tinypic.com/2m3l1xz.jpg

i don't know what devito and thompson are doing there...

[mcrickson]

http://s4.tinypic.com/2m3l1xz.jpg

i don't know what devito and thompson are doing there...

This nearly made me vomit..at WORK..I hope you're happy :p

[lottie]

oooh thanks Anin,
i'm gonna be a good girl and resist reading them... :)

who wants to start a book on how long i'll last? LOL
:rolleyes:

[Ethan Poe]

I am certainly no great expert in lyrical analysis but I must say all of the new songs lyrically are quite promising.

Black Cloud- Really putting the "Refusal" into Years of Refusal, I really find this lyrically a strange sibling to The More you Ignore Me. I dont get what Black Cloud means but I think none the less this track is of lyrical par far above Ringleader. I just hope the music is good and we may have a very strong track on here.

When I Last Spoke to Carol- I find this a very interesting musical portrait. I find it intriguing how these lyrics will be sung. I think this has an almost early Moz element to it. Also I think this sounding in an almost mariachi fashion could be amusing.

It's Not your Birthday Anymore- Very interesting lyrics for what is apparently a ballad. Honestly I think this has good lyrics but really isnt as thrilling as the other ones, that being said I think these have good potential for a great melody.

You Were Good in your Time-The Vauxhall reference in the Guardian is fair, this track is lyrically gorgeous probably one of the if not the best Mozz lyrics of the decade.

Sorry Doesnt Help- This track really isnt too exciting though is rather amusing, for some reason I find these lyrics a throwback to the Smiths.

I'm Ok by Myself- A very fun rock song, the lyrics for some reason remind me very much thematically close to At Last I am Born. Sounds like a fun track that isnt too different than many of Morrissey's more personal album finales.

[Je Suis Julie]

Wow.
All the new lyrics are very powerful. Black Cloud and It's Not Your Birthday Anymore .....
*swoon*

February is too far away.

[justme]

Hey guys thank you for the reviews and Anin for those lyrics :D



In summary:

The Guardian:
So, on first impressions, a decidedly mixed, but somewhat enviable bag. For when Morrissey pulls out the stops on this album, he's the best he's been for a long time - full of heart, soul and fire

Billboard:
Morrissey's voice on the record is strong, and the production is testament to the talents of the late Jerry Finn

Gigwise:
While there’s no doubt that he tackles certain issues - most notably humanity’s two biggest emotions, love and death - Morrissey's explanations are still shrouded in ambiguity. Where ‘Years of Refusal’ really does shine, however, is musically. It’s here that, on the verge of turning 50, Morrissey has just shifted into Top Gear.

It sounds so good, I just can't believe I have to wait 2 months for its release :(

oh well...there are worse thing in life, etc :D :guitar:

[CrystalGeezer]

Wow.
All the new lyrics are very powerful. Black Cloud and It's Not Your Birthday Anymore .....
*swoon*

February is too far away.

It's not your birthday is harsh. I love it.

[vAndreav]

wow, sooo excited...i agree with all the good comments about Black Cloud and Its Not Your Birthday Anymore. can't wait.

[Depeche609]

oooh thanks Anin,
i'm gonna be a good girl and resist reading them... :)

who wants to start a book on how long i'll last? LOL
:rolleyes:

I'm bad with spoilers myself. I tried to avoid all spoilers for the next season of the TV show Lost, but it eats me up inside all day and I must check the spoiler site at least once a day. I have problem..lol

[viva hate1]

When I read when he said "that's my son"... Oh my.. I got goosebumps!!! The sole idea just sounds so beautiful.... If I could only be the mother of the baby :D :horny:

anin thanks a lot for the info :)

hahahaha that`s funny,i guess you`re not alone i want to be the mother too...well a girl can dream :D

[LukaInExile]

and has no comment on Smith reunion.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/morrissey-unveils-new-album-in-london-1003922144.story

[vivabob]

and has no comment on Smith reunion.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/morrissey-unveils-new-album-in-london-1003922144.story

i predict a thread move :D

[Frankly Vulgar]

thank you for posting this.

unfortunately I find these lyrics very plain and weak, perhaps on level with Ringleaders. alas..

[dicartwright]

thank you for posting this.

unfortunately I find these lyrics very plain and weak, perhaps on level with Ringleaders. alas..

Exactly my thoughts :(
Hope it's better musically

[Maurice E]

Exactly my thoughts :(
Hope it's better musically

regrettably, my thoughts too. where'd the humour/subtlety/light touch go?

[bored]

I think I am getting this whole Morrissey fan thing wrong.

If most fans like something, I tend not to and vice versa (although Tony the Pony has been getting a lot of well deserved love around here lately).

I liked the lyrics. Really dark. The reviews on the music all point towards something loud and raucus. I'm pretty excited about this record.

[David]

I too thought the lyrics on Ringleader were forgettable. But I think these are of a significantly higher caliber -- more artful, more expressive, more pathos. I have high expectations for Years.

[Danny_]

regrettably, my thoughts too. where'd the humour/subtlety/light touch go?
I'm so surprised you don't like them! :D

[Assassin]

Lyrics are supposed to be heard not read.

[raincoated lover]

When Last I Spoke To Carol

When last I spoke To Carol I said:
'I can't pretend it gets any easier.'

She said:
'I have hung on, I have edged along this narrow ledge since the day I was born in 1975.'

When last I spoke to Carol I said:
'I can't pretend I feel love for you.'

She said:
'I've hammered a smile upon this pasty face of mine since the day I was born in 1975.'

When I said goodbye to Carol,
Black earth upon the casket fell.
She had faded to
Something I always knew;
To the rescue nobody ever comes.

[theneverplayedsymphony]

Lyrics are supposed to be heard not read.

Yes, that's why I've decided to delete the ones I downloaded!:p I want to see them, but I want it all to hit me at once!

[Frankly Vulgar]

When Last I Spoke To Carol

When last I spoke To Carol I said:
'I can't pretend it gets any easier.'

She said:
'I have hung on, I have edged along this narrow ledge since the day I was born in 1975.'

When last I spoke to Carol I said:
'I can't pretend I feel love for you.'

She said:
'I've hammered a smile upon this pasty face of mine since the day I was born in 1975.'

When I said goodbye to Carol,
Black earth upon the casket fell.
She had faded to
Something I always knew;
To the rescue nobody ever comes.

too bad to be true. It's not even just plain, it's cheesy and embarrassing. "Carol" "I was born in 1975" "When I said good bye to Carol"... ???

[raincoated lover]

too bad to be true. It's not even just plain, it's cheesy and embarrassing. "Carol" "I was born in 1975" "When I said good bye to Carol"... ???

I disagree entirely.

"When I said goodbye to Carol,
Black earth upon the casket fell.
She had faded to
Something I always knew;
To the rescue nobody ever comes."

Sheer poetry.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

too bad to be true. It's not even just plain, it's cheesy and embarrassing. "Carol" "I was born in 1975" "When I said good bye to Carol"... ???

What's cheesy and embarrassing about having been born in 1975? I was born the year before that, hardly my fault now, is it? I'd have come sooner if they'd left the door open... Or is there something else I don't know about 1975?

[Frankly Vulgar]

I disagree entirely.

"When I said goodbye to Carol,
Black earth upon the casket fell.
She had faded to
Something I always knew;
To the rescue nobody ever comes."

Sheer poetry.

maybe I'm being too harsh on this one but I still dont like it. Why make a Michael's Bones 2?

[Corrissey]

This is all so very exciting! http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s111/CrystalHeartOhio/animated/mood_excited.gif

Thank you, Anin! :)

[raincoated lover]

maybe I'm being too harsh on this one but I still dont like it. Why make a Michael's Bones 2?

I disagree with this statement too.
Morrissey has built his reputation as a poet, with a distinct style he has carried throughout his career. It could be said that each and every song he has written have mutual undertones.

Was it Bob Dylan who said 'I've written the same song a million times?'

[dicartwright]

Lyrics are supposed to be heard not read.

I have to agree on that.
I'll wait until I've heard them then. But hey, I did hear a couple, and I'm missing some... geniality? Subtlety, definitely.

[vivabob]

is that child his son really.

... no :sick:

[moz'art girl]

Thanks, Anin, for the news!:)
Please, can you tell us more the production? Do the production and Morrissey s' voice sound like YATQ? Is the production like on ROTT? (You think the songs are better than "I want to see the boy happy", for example? I hope so...Did you prefer YATQ, or ROTT? Just to have an idea what I can expect. Thanks.):p

[Mel_Torment]

Ta very much, Anin!

I'm sure I'm not the only one very keen to hear the rest of your impressions of Mozzer's to-do at the Pigalle Club. :)

I have a fondness for Pigalle in Paris...the sleaze and Mozzer's connection to it (was found in a bar there earlier this year by fans and chose it as a background for the pix below from a '92 interview)

http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1992/q922.jpg

http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1992/q927.jpg


Is it just me or did anyone find the lyrics to "It's Not Your Birthday Anymore" disturbing for possibly describing a rape? My emphasis in bold.

Your voice it might say 'no'
But the heart has a will of its own
Your voice it might say 'no'
But the heart has a will of its own
It's not your birthday anymore
There's no need to be kind to you
and the will to see you smile and belong has now gone
It's not your birthday anymore
did you really think we meant
all of those syrupy, sentimental things
______that we said?
It cannot be given
and so it must be taken
it cannot be given
and so it must be taken
All of the gifts that they gave can't compare in any way to the love I am now
giving to you right here right now on the floor
all of the gifts that they gave can't compare in any way to the love I am now
giving to you right here right now on the floor
It's not your birthday anymore
there's no need to be kind to you
and the will to see you smile and belong has now gone
It's not your birthday anymore
did you really think we meant
all of those syrupy, sentimental
___things that we said yesterday?

[CrystalGeezer]

No. Not exactly.

I can't do this I'm just so sick.

[justme]

Ta very much, Anin!

Is it just me or did anyone find the lyrics to "It's Not Your Birthday Anymore" disturbing for possibly describing a rape? My emphasis in bold.

Your voice it might say 'no'
But the heart has a will of its own
Your voice it might say 'no'
But the heart has a will of its own
It's not your birthday anymore
There's no need to be kind to you
and the will to see you smile and belong has now gone
It's not your birthday anymore
did you really think we meant
all of those syrupy, sentimental things
______that we said?
It cannot be given
and so it must be taken
it cannot be given
and so it must be taken
All of the gifts that they gave can't compare in any way to the love I am now
giving to you right here right now on the floor
all of the gifts that they gave can't compare in any way to the love I am now
giving to you right here right now on the floor
It's not your birthday anymore
there's no need to be kind to you
and the will to see you smile and belong has now gone
It's not your birthday anymore
did you really think we meant
all of those syrupy, sentimental
___things that we said yesterday?

Humm, not really. The way I see it it might be about romantic desilusion - a situation where you don't get along anymore and yet you still want each other. You know you shouldn't ( Your voice it might say 'no') but the heart has a will of it's own. A sort of love/hate situation.

I actually know a couple like this. They were once together and are now separated for 5 years - they are still hurt and can't possibly get along , however they still want each other and it still "happens" and it's quite damaging.

[goinghome]

It occured to me that the narrative voice in It's not your Birthday Anymore could be that of fans speaking to him. Would that work, to go with AYNIM?

Perhaps when heard with the music we can see the light that never goes out in this batch of lyrics.

[Anin (or at least i was)]

Thanks, Anin, for the news!:)
Please, can you tell us more the production? Do the production and Morrissey s' voice sound like YATQ? Is the production like on ROTT? (You think the songs are better than "I want to see the boy happy", for example? I hope so...Did you prefer YATQ, or ROTT? Just to have an idea what I can expect. Thanks.):p

I like both albums for very different reasons but if I had to give up one or face the firing squad it would be You Are The Quarry. Years Of Refusal is entirely different though particularly the production. The sound is rougher. For me this is getting close to a perfect Morrissey album. I like the immediacy of it. It's pretty basic rock/pop. Lots of drums. When I say basic I must mean perfect.

So for 15 minutes Morrissey's sitting just a few metres away. Could I bring myself to say hello? 'A very strange fear gripped me' and I don't think I'll be able to forgive myself. Then some guys from the record company introduce Morrissey, he gets up, gets all shy and the album plays.

I do remember thinking that Skull and One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell in particular sounded even rougher (raw) on the album than they have done live. That's a good thing for me.
The trumpet intro to Goodbye Farewell could have stayed but I'm not going to worry too much.

But really it was too difficult to concentrate and recall all the new tracks individually. Especially when Morrissey is sitting across the room while Something Is Squeezing My Skull was playing. Absolutely surreal.

I want to hear it again. NOW.

[EPbabe]

Humm, not really. The way I see it it might be about romantic desilusion - a situation where you don't get along anymore and yet you still want each other. You know you shouldn't ( Your voice it might say 'no') but the heart has a will of it's own. A sort of love/hate situation.

I agree with you on that one. :) And I'm sure most of us had similar real life experiences.

[Je Suis Julie]

I do remember thinking that Skull and One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell in particular sounded even rougher (raw) on the album than they have done live. That's a good thing for me.

Oh me too! Rawrrr.
Thanks Anin

Re: It's not your birthday, I read it differently, Mel T.....

I see it as someone asking, gee, would you rather have some flowery insincere Hallmark-approved crap for one day, where the people don't really care anyway ...... or can you handle a real gift, sans BS, here on the floor?

(I know which I'd prefer :p)

[Je Suis Julie]

Humm, not really. The way I see it it might be about romantic desilusion - a situation where you don't get along anymore and yet you still want each other. You know you shouldn't ( Your voice it might say 'no') but the heart has a will of it's own. A sort of love/hate situation.

I actually know a couple like this. They were once together and are now separated for 5 years - they are still hurt and can't possibly get along , however they still want each other and it still "happens" and it's quite damaging.

I like this interpretation best, Justme!

[Pokey]

The trumpet intro to Goodbye Farewell could have stayed but I'm not going to worry too much.


Damn, I really liked the trumpet in this song and when Pooley joined the band with his amazing ability to suck, he really ruined this song in a way by not playing the trumpet ... but I guess thats Moz's decision. Is there any trumpet at all in it/is it just the intro trumpet that is gone?

very jealous of your experience, and I wouldnt blame you for finding it hard to concentrate when the man himself is sitting there in the same room as you!

[moz'art girl]

I like both albums for very different reasons but if I had to give up one or face the firing squad it would be You Are The Quarry. Years Of Refusal is entirely different though particularly the production. The sound is rougher. For me this is getting close to a perfect Morrissey album. I like the immediacy of it. It's pretty basic rock/pop. Lots of drums. When I say basic I must mean perfect.

So for 15 minutes Morrissey's sitting just a few metres away. Could I bring myself to say hello? 'A very strange fear gripped me' and I don't think I'll be able to forgive myself. Then some guys from the record company introduce Morrissey, he gets up, gets all shy and the album plays.

I do remember thinking that Skull and One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell in particular sounded even rougher (raw) on the album than they have done live. That's a good thing for me.
The trumpet intro to Goodbye Farewell could have stayed but I'm not going to worry too much.

But really it was too difficult to concentrate and recall all the new tracks individually. Especially when Morrissey is sitting across the room while Something Is Squeezing My Skull was playing. Absolutely surreal.

I want to hear it again. NOW.
Thank you very much for your answer!:) The record seems interesting. I hope I will like it better than ROTT; I love energetic drums, I hope I will like them on the album. Wow, you were sitting not far from Morrissey for 15 minutes!:eek:I understand your regret not talking to him, but it must not be very easy to try to talk to a star:eek:, and I think he was probably nervous, so maybe he did not want to talk.:p Or maybe, he would have liked to talk to you, to forget his stress.
Did he stay during all the listening? Did the journalists have someting to eat or drink? How did you manage to be there? Do you know if some interviews took place after hearing the album?
Sorry for all the questions...:cool:

[moz'art girl]

Ta very much, Anin!

I'm sure I'm not the only one very keen to hear the rest of your impressions of Mozzer's to-do at the Pigalle Club. :)

I have a fondness for Pigalle in Paris...the sleaze and Mozzer's connection to it (was found in a bar there earlier this year by fans and chose it as a background for the pix below from a '92 interview)

Is it just me or did anyone find the lyrics to "It's Not Your Birthday Anymore" disturbing for possibly describing a rape? My emphasis in bold.

Your voice it might say 'no'
But the heart has a will of its own
Your voice it might say 'no'
But the heart has a will of its own
It's not your birthday anymore
There's no need to be kind to you
and the will to see you smile and belong has now gone
It's not your birthday anymore
did you really think we meant
all of those syrupy, sentimental things
______that we said?
It cannot be given
and so it must be taken
it cannot be given
and so it must be taken
All of the gifts that they gave can't compare in any way to the love I am now
giving to you right here right now on the floor
all of the gifts that they gave can't compare in any way to the love I am now
giving to you right here right now on the floor
It's not your birthday anymore
there's no need to be kind to you
and the will to see you smile and belong has now gone
It's not your birthday anymore
did you really think we meant
all of those syrupy, sentimental
___things that we said yesterday?

I agree with you, it seems Mozzie is doing strange things here, without the consent of his partner...:eek:It reminds me the lyrics: "I m' gonna get you".
My god, Morrissey, making love savagely on the floor...:horny:How fascinating!:cool:

[Kewpie]

Thank you very much for your answer!:) The record seems interesting. I hope I will like it better than ROTT; I love energetic drums, I hope I will like them on the album. Wow, you were sitting not far from Morrissey for 15 minutes!:eek:I understand your regret not talking to him, but it must not be very easy to try to talk to a star:eek:, and I think he was probably nervous, so maybe he did not want to talk.:p Or maybe, he would have liked to talk to you, to forget his stress.
Did he stay during all the listening? Did the journalists have someting to eat or drink? How did you manage to be there? Do you know if some interviews took place after hearing the album?
Sorry for all the questions...:cool:


According to The Guardian reviewer Jude Rodgers they got some food and drink.

[moz'art girl]

According to The Guardian reviewer Jude Rodgers they got some food and drink.
Ah, thank you. I had read the article,but I did not remember.:D
Good, Morrissey.:p

[justme]

I like this interpretation best, Justme!

thanks EP babe & Je Suis Julie :) - yep, love can be strange :o



My god, Morrissey, making love savagely on the floor...:horny:How fascinating!:cool:

hummm I agree with this part of your comment - fascinating indeed !! :cool:

[Danny_]

It occured to me that the narrative voice in It's not your Birthday Anymore could be that of fans speaking to him. Would that work, to go with AYNIM?



I thought that too. I imagined Morrissey coming off the stage at the MEN back in 2004 after everyone was so nice to him on his birthday, then logging onto Solo the next day only to read a load of abuse from the trolls and thinking "It's not my birthday anymore". :D

[I am a Ghost]

From the "Uncut" newsletter 15/12/08...


I managed, though, to sneak away from the office for a couple of hours last week when the savage glare of our fearsome Production Editor, to whose schedules we all must dutifully adhere, was directed elsewhere, a momentary distraction I was able to take full advantage of.
Anyway, when he wasn't looking, I made a surreptitious exit and headed into the West End and the Pigalle Club in Piccadilly, for a playback of the new Morrissey album, Years Of Refusal, which is coming out next February.
The Pigalle turns out to be a pretty swanky nightclub, like something you might see in archive footage of the 50s or 60s, when it might have been full of Brylcreemed gangsters, villains from Whitechapel and Bow and similar 'manors', up West for the night, accompanied by buxom starlets with platinum beehives, the place otherwise full of raffish movie stars, familiar faces from awful British films of the time, and football managers, the shadier kind, wreathed in cigar smoke, dolly birds in tow, ordering champagne by the bucket-load.
It's full of music hacks this afternoon, some of them from far afield, all present to lend an ear to Morrissey's latest opus. Morrissey is even here himself, to introduce the album.
He gets up from the table where he's been sitting, and with a little cough leaps on the small stage, where an easel has been set up with a large mock-up of the new record's sleeve resting on it, Morrissey in the picture that adorns said sleeve holding a baby.
"It's not photo-shopped," he now tells us, and he sounds like he's got a cold. "That's my son," he playfully quips, as eyebrows go up across the room.
He goes on to make a short speech, but watching him, wondering why he appears to be wearing clothes that look at least a size too small from him, I am thinking of the description of the great man in poet Simon Armitage's wonderful memoir Gig: The Life And Times Of A Rock Star Fantasist, in which he recalls seeing Morrissey - "with his waiter's hips and builder's shoulders" - at King George's Hall, Blackburn, I can't remember when.
"Back in the Eighties," Armitage writes, "there was barely enough of Morrissey to stop his paisley shirts and floral blouses from completely imploding. Now he looks like a retired shire horse standing on its back legs, or something from mythology, as if those tailored Italian trousers might be hiding a pair of goat's legs."
I snap out of this brief reverie as Morrissey winds up his introduction.
"This is my new album, please God you like it," he says, with a little bow of his head. He exits the stage as the first rumblings from the album, something with the cheery title of "Something Is Squeezing My Skull", flood through the speakers that are everywhere around the room.
That's as much, I think, as I might be allowed to say for the moment about Years Of Refusal without risking a good hiding from someone. I'm sure, though, we'll have a lot more to say about it at the appropriate time.
Until then, all the best.
Allan

[justme]

From the "Uncut" newsletter 15/12/08...


I managed, though, to sneak away from the office for a couple of hours last week when the savage glare of our fearsome Production Editor, to whose schedules we all must dutifully adhere, was directed elsewhere, a momentary distraction I was able to take full advantage of.
Anyway, when he wasn't looking, I made a surreptitious exit and headed into the West End and the Pigalle Club in Piccadilly, for a playback of the new Morrissey album, Years Of Refusal, which is coming out next February.
The Pigalle turns out to be a pretty swanky nightclub, like something you might see in archive footage of the 50s or 60s, when it might have been full of Brylcreemed gangsters, villains from Whitechapel and Bow and similar 'manors', up West for the night, accompanied by buxom starlets with platinum beehives, the place otherwise full of raffish movie stars, familiar faces from awful British films of the time, and football managers, the shadier kind, wreathed in cigar smoke, dolly birds in tow, ordering champagne by the bucket-load.
It's full of music hacks this afternoon, some of them from far afield, all present to lend an ear to Morrissey's latest opus. Morrissey is even here himself, to introduce the album.
He gets up from the table where he's been sitting, and with a little cough leaps on the small stage, where an easel has been set up with a large mock-up of the new record's sleeve resting on it, Morrissey in the picture that adorns said sleeve holding a baby.
"It's not photo-shopped," he now tells us, and he sounds like he's got a cold. "That's my son," he playfully quips, as eyebrows go up across the room.
He goes on to make a short speech, but watching him, wondering why he appears to be wearing clothes that look at least a size too small from him, I am thinking of the description of the great man in poet Simon Armitage's wonderful memoir Gig: The Life And Times Of A Rock Star Fantasist, in which he recalls seeing Morrissey - "with his waiter's hips and builder's shoulders" - at King George's Hall, Blackburn, I can't remember when.
"Back in the Eighties," Armitage writes, "there was barely enough of Morrissey to stop his paisley shirts and floral blouses from completely imploding. Now he looks like a retired shire horse standing on its back legs, or something from mythology, as if those tailored Italian trousers might be hiding a pair of goat's legs."
I snap out of this brief reverie as Morrissey winds up his introduction.
"This is my new album, please God you like it," he says, with a little bow of his head. He exits the stage as the first rumblings from the album, something with the cheery title of "Something Is Squeezing My Skull", flood through the speakers that are everywhere around the room.
That's as much, I think, as I might be allowed to say for the moment about Years Of Refusal without risking a good hiding from someone. I'm sure, though, we'll have a lot more to say about it at the appropriate time.
Until then, all the best.
Allan

Well, so far the previews have been good... I now realise the Uncut guy would risk a good hiding from his fearsome Production Editor :) - somehow, when I first read this, I thought he meant Moz ! which means I've been working too much, can't think straight, etc

I better get myself a drink! :)

[mozzette]

how come there are no photos of the promo? Where were the paps? I just like to keep up to date on Morrissey's pants and stuff :D

[sweetness522]

I agree, Mozette, I have an image in my mind of Moz standing in front of a load of paps and journalists, flash blubs flashing in his finest Gucci suit for this premiere. Too bad there are no photos.:(

[bored]

I agree, Mozette, I have an image in my mind of Moz standing in front of a load of paps and journalists, flash blubs flashing in his finest Gucci suit for this premiere. Too bad there are no photos.:(

I picture it more like the video for The Youngest Was The Most Loved (except Alain wasn't in it.)

[northernleech]

Ta very much, Anin!

I'm sure I'm not the only one very keen to hear the rest of your impressions of Mozzer's to-do at the Pigalle Club. :)

I have a fondness for Pigalle in Paris...the sleaze and Mozzer's connection to it (was found in a bar there earlier this year by fans and chose it as a background for the pix below from a '92 interview)

http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1992/q922.jpg

http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1992/q927.jpg


Is it just me or did anyone find the lyrics to "It's Not Your Birthday Anymore" disturbing for possibly describing a rape? My emphasis in bold.

Your voice it might say 'no'
But the heart has a will of its own
Your voice it might say 'no'
But the heart has a will of its own
It's not your birthday anymore
There's no need to be kind to you
and the will to see you smile and belong has now gone
It's not your birthday anymore
did you really think we meant
all of those syrupy, sentimental things
______that we said?
It cannot be given
and so it must be taken
it cannot be given
and so it must be taken
All of the gifts that they gave can't compare in any way to the love I am now
giving to you right here right now on the floor
all of the gifts that they gave can't compare in any way to the love I am now
giving to you right here right now on the floor
It's not your birthday anymore
there's no need to be kind to you
and the will to see you smile and belong has now gone
It's not your birthday anymore
did you really think we meant
all of those syrupy, sentimental
___things that we said yesterday?

I remember that interview very well .. and sadly a couple of years later i went to paris and went down onto the metro platform at pigalle to have my photo taken next to the station sign with my tongue quite literally in my cheek a la Moz !

[Corrissey]

I like both albums for very different reasons but if I had to give up one or face the firing squad it would be You Are The Quarry. Years Of Refusal is entirely different though particularly the production. The sound is rougher. For me this is getting close to a perfect Morrissey album. I like the immediacy of it. It's pretty basic rock/pop. Lots of drums. When I say basic I must mean perfect.


You had me right there. :cool: (but I would not 'take one' for Quarry) Thank you for letting us live vicariously thru you! I appreciate a (mostly ;)) unbaised opinion of the new record. Cannot wait to hear it. And your surreal Moz experience makes the hairs on my arm stand up *drool:oswoon*


thanks EP babe & Je Suis Julie - yep, love can be strange



I'm another who agrees with your analysis, justme. So that makes three women... Three married women. hmmmm :D





http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1992/q927.jpg


Yes, please :horny:

One of my favorite pix

[Mel_Torment]

Humm, not really. The way I see it it might be about romantic desilusion - a situation where you don't get along anymore and yet you still want each other. You know you shouldn't ( Your voice it might say 'no') but the heart has a will of it's own. A sort of love/hate situation.

I actually know a couple like this. They were once together and are now separated for 5 years - they are still hurt and can't possibly get along , however they still want each other and it still "happens" and it's quite damaging.

Interesting! Thanks for the reply. It seems that most people agree with JustMe's interp.

I would agree that the narrative seems to come from a "romantic delusion" (and as a couple of m-soloists have oh-so-kindly suggested, I am well acquainted with delusion :rolleyes:)...but I think the delusion in this song sounds very one-sided and coming from the aggressor.

As much as I am disturbed by what I read into some of his lyrics, I very much enjoy the frisson of Morrissey's deviance or even what might be called evil. Diverging or even contradictory interpretations can co-exist (and often do) in Morrissey's work. It's what makes it so rich and interesting!


I agree with you, it seems Mozzie is doing strange things here, without the consent of his partner...:eek:It reminds me the lyrics: "I m' gonna get you".
My god, Morrissey, making love savagely on the floor...:horny:How fascinating!:cool:

Oh, here I thought I had a comrade in thought and then you have to go and make it horny! :p But before you got into Moz-rutting-savagely-on-the-floor mode, you alluded to a song that I was thinking of when I thought of "It's Not Your Burfday Anymore" as a look into a rapist's mind -- "Jack the Ripper"! Not that Jack the Ripper was a confirmed rapist, but the elements of sexual sadism and misogyny cannot be lost on those who ponder his brutal murders of prostitutes.

"You don't refuse, but you don't agree" -- maybe she can't agree because she's disembowelled and dead. Or it's hardly true consent if someone is holding a knife to your throat. I get chills as well as the urge to laugh with this lyric. Moz used to joke when prefacing this song live that he himself is privy to Jack the Ripper's thoughts. Hmmm...what are you telling us about yourself, Moz? I have a story about this song done live in 2002, but I'll save it for another time/post.

Another song that goes in a similar sublime vein -- romantic and cruel, attractive and terrifying -- is "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side". Who else but Moz has the charm to pull off such a song? He talks about a "plundering desire for love" (a pretty, poetic way of saying rapist tendencies?) and about "hatred" and "murderous desire" and makes it sound so sympathetic and alluring.

Now I must face it: We are no better than Twilight fans. :p We adore the "vampire" that Moz is. He is this incredibly attractive and misunderstood monster. No matter how much he proclaims his hideous evilness, we love him all the more for it and desperately wish to be his victims er--lovers.

[vivabob]

Did no one think of taking a tape recorder into this thing so i can here the album.

[GlasgowChivas]

Moz used to joke when prefacing this song live that he himself is privy to Jack the Ripper's thoughts. Hmmm...what are you telling us about yourself, Moz? I have a story about this song done live in 2002, but I'll save it for another time/post.



Oh tell us now ye big tease!:)

[Barking]

Interesting! Thanks for the reply. It seems that most people agree with JustMe's interp.

I would agree that the narrative seems to come from a "romantic delusion" (and as a couple of m-soloists have oh-so-kindly suggested, I am well acquainted with delusion :rolleyes:)...but I think the delusion in this song sounds very one-sided and coming from the aggressor.

As much as I am disturbed by what I read into some of his lyrics, I very much enjoy the frisson of Morrissey's deviance or even what might be called evil. Diverging or even contradictory interpretations can co-exist (and often do) in Morrissey's work. It's what makes it so rich and interesting!



Oh, here I thought I had a comrade in thought and then you have to go and make it horny! :p But before you got into Moz-rutting-savagely-on-the-floor mode, you alluded to a song that I was thinking of when I thought of "It's Not Your Burfday Anymore" as a look into a rapist's mind -- "Jack the Ripper"! Not that Jack the Ripper was a confirmed rapist, but the elements of sexual sadism and misogyny cannot be lost on those who ponder his brutal murders of prostitutes.

"You don't refuse, but you don't agree" -- maybe she can't agree because she's disembowelled and dead. Or it's hardly true consent if someone is holding a knife to your throat. I get chills as well as the urge to laugh with this lyric. Moz used to joke when prefacing this song live that he himself is privy to Jack the Ripper's thoughts. Hmmm...what are you telling us about yourself, Moz? I have a story about this song done live in 2002, but I'll save it for another time/post.

Another song that goes in a similar sublime vein -- romantic and cruel, attractive and terrifying -- is "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side". Who else but Moz has the charm to pull off such a song? He talks about a "plundering desire for love" (a pretty, poetic way of saying rapist tendencies?) and about "hatred" and "murderous desire" and makes it sound so sympathetic and alluring.

Now I must face it: We are no better than Twilight fans. :p We adore the "vampire" that Moz is. He is this incredibly attractive and misunderstood monster. No matter how much he proclaims his hideous evilness, we love him all the more for it and desperately wish to be his victims er--lovers.

Phew.:eek: So it's just me that wants MarshmallowMan then?

Past a certain age, you just get very lovey-dovey...Morrissey and Mel are too young obviously...
but you too would make a nice couple....In a "ouch, that hurt!" way. :p

"The agressor". :gun: Tee heeeeeeeee. Decorating the house with snowdomes... (Ooooh, EVIL!)

Baby jesus says there is no such thing as a love/ hate relationship btw. Apparently either it's called lovelove, or well, it's called Spacemountain.
I'm still not tall enough for the latter so I think I'll just watch.:p (If I get too loud with the popcorn during the rape scene, just hush me Mel, ok?)

(...And have I wished you guys a merry xmas?)

[nightcrawler]

Has anyone started to transcribe the lyrics to the new songs? Let´s collect them here. I´ll start with some well-known lyrics

All You Need Is Me

You hiss and groan and you constantly moan
But you don't ever go away
That's because
All you need is me

You roll your eyes up to the skies
Mock horrified
But you're still here
All you need is me

There's so much destruction
All over the world
And all you can do is
Complain about me

You bang your head against the wall
And say you're sick of it all
Yet you remain
'Cause all you need is me

And then you offer your one and only joke
And you ask me what will I be
When I grow up to be a man
Uhm, nothing!

There's a soft voice singing in your head
Who could this be?
I do believe it's me

There's a naked man standing, laughing in your dreams
You know who it is
But you don't like what it means

There's so much destruction
All over the world
And all you can do is
Complain about me

I was a small, fat child in a council house
There was only one thing I ever dreamed about
And Fate has just
Handed it to me - whoopee

You don't like me, but you love me
Either way you're wrong
You're gonna miss me when I'm gone
You're gonna miss me when I'm gone

That´s How People Grow Up

I was wasting my time
Trying to fall in love
Disappointment came to me and
Booted me and bruised and hurt me

But that's how people grow up
That's how people grow up

I was wasting my time
Looking for love
Someone must look at me
and see there's someone of their dreams

I was wasting my time
Waiting for love
For the love that never comes from
Someone who does not exist

That's how people grow up
That's how people grow up

Let me live before I die
Oh, not me, not I

I was wasting my life
Always thinking about myself
Someone on the deathbed said
"There are other sorrows too"

I was driving my car
I crashed and broke my spine
So yes, there are things worse in life than
Never being someone's sweetie

That's how people grow up
That's how people grow up

As for me I'm ok
For now anyway

[Not Right in the Head]

They've already been posted, straight from one of the listening preview parties.

[tlm130]

You can find all the lyrics here: http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/moz-w.htm

[nightcrawler]

Oh, Thank You!

[vicarinatutugal]

how did I miss this?

thanks very much indeed.

[dizzywhore_1804]

I know the lyrics were leaked back around the time of the album showcase, but did anyone bother typing them up to be copied/pasted etc?
I don't mind doing it myself, but if it's already been done....

I'd like to put them on my iPod, see if they help get me into the music any more.
Some of the lyrics really seem to clash with the musicality of the album. Anyone else find some of the abruptness jarring?

[theAmbitiousOutsider]

"Something Is Squeezing My Skull" (Morrissey, Alain Whyte) – 2:38

I'm doing very well
I can block out the present and the past now
I know by now you think I should have straightened myself out
Thank you drop dead

Oh, something is squeezing my skull
Something I can barely describe
There is no love in modern life

I'm doing very well
It's a miracle I've even made it this far
The motion of taxi's excites me
When you Peel it back and bite me

Oh, something is squeezing my skull
Something I can barely describe
There is no hope in modern life

Oh, something is squeezing my skull
Something I can’t fight
No true friends in modern life

Diazepam...Valium...Temazepam...Lithium

HRT..ECT......How long must I stay on this stuff?

Don't give me anymore
Don’t give me anymore
Don’t give me anymore
Don’t give me anymore

Please don’t give me anymore
Don’t give me anymore
Don’t give me anymore

You swore you would not give me anymore
Don’t give me anymore
Don’t give me anymore
Don’t give me anymore

Please don’t give me anymore
Don’t give me anymore
Don’t give me anymore

You swore you would not give me anymore
Don’t give me anymore
Don’t give me anymore
Don’t give me anymore
give me anymore
give me anymore
give me anymore
give me anymore
give me anymore
give me anymore
give me anymore

Oh, you swore
You swore
You swore
You swore you would not give me anymore
give me anymore
give me anymore
give me anymore
give me anymore
give me anymore
give me anymore
give me anymore

[fuckfrankie]

"Something Is Squeezing My Skull" (Morrissey, Alain Whyte) – 2:38

Diazepam...Valium...Temazepam...Lithium



i think he says Diazepam, that's Valium

when you peel it back and bite me is the best line in the album :)

[Jones]

Are there any other songs about anti-depressants? Has anyone else written so directly about them? It would be interesting to compare.

[bored]

he handed out lyics when he had the listening party. they have been scanned... i dont have the link but a search should help you

[Kewpie]

Are there any other songs about anti-depressants? Has anyone else written so directly about them? It would be interesting to compare.

Just about a year ago Roma de Moz posted Something is Squeezing My Skull full lyrics (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=83168/) thread which had very interesting discussions.

[ringchase]

is there a website that has all the newer morrissey releases and thier lyrics like you are the quarry, rott, and yor?

[cherrylipstick]

is there a website that has all the newer morrissey releases and thier lyrics like you are the quarry, rott, and yor?


http://www.worldofmorrissey.com/npage.asp?area=Lyrics

this site is the best for that

[Not Right in the Head]

http://www.worldofmorrissey.com/npage.asp?area=Lyrics

this site is the best for that

No, Passions is: http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/moz-w.htm

[cherrylipstick]

No, Passions is: http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/moz-w.htm


I didnt know that one yet, cool - agreed it is much better:)

[Stoned]

Cherrylipstick, it is a great site. Thanks for that
Cheers Moz

[ringchase]

thank you alli like to post his lyrics on my facebook notes page and that way people can ask me about the songs and i can share my love on morrissey, plus a lot of his songs are how i feel anymore.

[Oso Blanco]

This my be old news, but I couldn't find anything about it through the search function, so I'll post it anyway:

During the official pre-listenings of the new album, lyric sheets were handed out to the journalists. I just found a link where someone (not me) has uploaded scans of the whole thing:

YOR Lyrics (http://www.sendspace.com/file/m9nok3)

[Mr. Tibbles]

Thanks for this.

And I'm sure you all have noticed in "Something Is Squeezing My Skull" that he mentions "HRT." My husband the psychiatrist said this must refer to hormone replacement therapy and questioned why Morrissey would have mentioned this one. I told him he's very clever and crafty, that's why!

[southpawlord]

Excuse me! :) Where can i find the lyrics from the brand new album?:horny: