Morrissey interview by Lior Ashkenazi (pics)

[TuQui]

On 'Yediot Ahronot' (Israeli newspaper) today:cool:
I scanned only the pics but I will scan the whole interview if you want (in Hebrew of course:p)
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/2793/ccf0907200800000un1.th.jpg (http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ccf0907200800000un1.jpg)
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1438/ccf0907200800001tw0.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ccf0907200800001tw0.jpg)

[sweetness522]

Thank you so much for scanning those. He looks gorgeous. Does it happen to say where the interview took place? Any other tidbits would be appreciated if you are able to translate.:)

[Je Suis Julie]

They both look hot.
I finally found Late Marriage at the video store and watched it just two nights ago.
And here they are together.... :)
He's right, it's a fantastic movie. Simple story, yet very powerful, it sticks with you....

[Kewpie]

Thank you very much for the heads up.
Has Yediot Ahronot English website?
If not, hope some kind soul will translate the interview for us. :)

[TuQui]

Thank you so much for scanning those. He looks gorgeous. Does it happen to say where the interview took place? Any other tidbits would be appreciated if you are able to translate.:)
it was in london
in the end it says that a video interview will be published this weekend on Ynet so you will see :)

[TuQui]

Thank you very much for the heads up.
Has Yediot Ahronot English website?
If not, hope some kind soul will translate the interview for us. :)
yes Ynet (http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3083,00.html)
the interview published on the newspaper only
the video will be published on friday, I assume:)

[lottie]

oooh thankyou,
looks like a nice jumper/shirt combo there...
:horny:

[westendgirl]

Ooo thank you.
Very handsome here...I agree with you Lottie...and I still think pink suits him quite nicely...because of his skin tone people....no other reason.

Excited the interview/video.

[Claudia2006]

yes Ynet (http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3083,00.html)
the interview published on the newspaper only
the video will be published on friday, I assume:)

Thank you so much for the pictures and info! I can't wait to see the video interview. :D

Is there any chance of scanning the interview as well so maybe someone can translate it? :pray:

[vicarinatutugal]

thanks for the pics :D

[Jealous Of Youth]

This will probably come off as racist and anti-semetic, but... why Israel? Of all the countries in the world, why there? Can we deduce from this that he is an Israeli sympathiser? Because, speaking as someone with experience living in occupied territory, I'm not sure I... never mind.

[westendgirl]

What I want to know is what are the DVDs they're conversing about?
Does it say anything in the interview about them?....would be thankful if someone would translate! :)

[mozzia]

He looks very lovely there, thank you. The top pic especially..that smile :)

[TuQui]

What I want to know is what are the DVDs they're conversing about?
Does it say anything in the interview about them?....would be thankful if someone would translate! :)
Israeli movies that Lior Ashkenazi and Gal Uchovsky (Israeli Producer, who wrote 'Walk on Water'..) bought for him :)

[dicartwright]

thanks so much for those! He looks so good, so lovely. Isn't it weird the mix feelings he gets from one? They all involve touching and kissing, though :P

[Mars_Rover]

I wouldn't have recognized Lior - he looks so different with the beard.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

This will probably come off as racist and anti-semetic, but... why Israel? Of all the countries in the world, why there? Can we deduce from this that he is an Israeli sympathiser? Because, speaking as someone with experience living in occupied territory, I'm not sure I... never mind.

I understand. Still, there is and will be enough Moz bashers, so I wouldn't want to give them any ammunition. Until now, have made no comment regarding this concert and don't plan to make any further comment.

[westendgirl]

Israeli movies that Lior Ashkenazi and Gal Uchovsky (Israeli Producer, who wrote 'Walk on Water'..) bought for him :)

Bought for Moz? Awww, that's sweet. Thank you!

[Jealous Of Youth]

I understand. Still, there is and will be enough Moz bashers, so I wouldn't want to give them any ammunition. Until now, have made no comment regarding this concert and don't plan to make any further comment.

I think there's a legitimate debate to be had on the topic, but you're probably right to steer clear of it! Certainly makes you think though...

[mell]

Thanks TuQui, LOVE the pics!!! :sweet:

[sistasheila]

this was justed posted on the main board
and this post i do now has nothing to do with moz..;-)
names of the dvd that moz get from lior: (Score:0)
Here are the dvd movies that lior gave Morrissey- all are israely maker:

late wedding
http://www.kinocite.co.uk/15/1565.php

walk on water
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0352994/

Morrissey saw this 2 movies in about 1-2 years ago and like it very much and also love the lior act in that movies

The other dvd he get:
Yossi & Jagger
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0334754/

Ba'al Lev
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0163650/

Buah, Ha
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0476643/

the band's visit
http://www.thebandsvisit.com/intro.html

guy Volach writes:
Today there is a big interview in the Israeli newspaper with Morrissey. Lior Ashkenazy, a well known Israeli actor, that morrissey likes very much, flew specially to London to meet Morrissey and to talk with him about the show that will take place in 29.07 Tel-Aviv. They met at a hotel in London. Ashkenazy brought Morrissey some DVDs he likes and after they go to the 02 London Festival and were at the backstage. On Friday the photographed interview will published in the net and I will send it to you. Here are some pics I scanned from the meeting Ashkenazy-Morrissey. To be continued…

i LOVE YOSSI AND JAGER saw it twice when it started in the cinema...recommended also walk on walter!
yossi and yager:
A sociological study of two men in the Israeli army who are lovers. The others in the unit react to their situation, suspecting, but not always understanding. One will leave the military soon, a few months away, as a snowy and desolute outpost is guarded from attack.
synopsis
An Israeli military outpost serves as the staging ground for this theatrical and tragic love story between Yossi and Jagger, young soldiers in the Israeli army. Yossi, the stolid captain of the outpost, and Jagger, nicknamed after the Rolling Stones front man, are lovers, but they struggle to hide their relationship from the rest of the troop. Private excursions through snowy trails serve to camouflage their trysts, but Jagger becomes dissatisfied with their secrecy, adding tension to this dynamic short film. Unlike action-oriented war movies, 'Yossi and Jagger' focuses more on the mundane activities of military service - scenes of ditch-digging, cooking, snowball fights, and an ad-hoc outpost dance party born from boredom and anxiety figure largely in the film - resulting in a realistic and less sensationalist account of war. Because the soldiers never identify the enemy by name, barely mentioning the existence of one at all, the viewer may speculate if their enemy is real, or is perhaps even the soldiers themselves. Eventually, however, they are called upon to ambush this invisible and unidentified enemy, and the film shifts gears, providing us with the violence a war always brings. But the combat yields an ironic and fatal twist, one quite unlike the American films that Yossi and Jagger frequently satirise.
EDIT:
the bubble is s also great..HAVE IT ON DVD
ideo Description
Emotionally moving and brimming with youthful energy, Eytan Fox's (Yossi & Jagger) The Bubble is a snapshot of three Tel Aviv friends.

Their lives filled with trendy cafes, boutiques and the occasional sexual adventures, the trio seek refuge in their metropolitan "bubble," isolating them from omnipresent fear of modern warfare around them. But when young Noam falls in love with a Palestinian young man named Ashraf, a chain of events is set in motion threatening their naïve, idealistic existence.

Starring: Ohad Knoller, Yousef "Joe" Sweid, Daniela Wircer and Alon Friedmann

Synopsis
Set in Tel Aviv, THE BUBBLE beams with youthful optimism but also with the sobering reality of life in the Middle East. When three roommates living in Tel Aviv's hippest neighborhood try to help one of their own connect with a Palestinian love interest, they are unprepared for how quickly the safe bubble they've been living in bursts.
edit

I invited Gal Uchovsky, who's a Morrissey expert and also a good friend of mine, to join me. . Morrissey entered the room, and he was very polite but quite suspicious. In order to break the ice, we gave him gifts we brought from Israel. These included DVDs of Gal and Eytan Fox's films, "Yossi & Jagger", "Walk on Water", "The Bubble" and "Gotta Have Heart", and also Dover Kosashvili's "Late Wedding" and "Gift from Above".
Gal and Morrissey started talking about things that only the both of them understood, old songs from the seventies and stuff like that. It turns out that they had a short email correspondence after Gal found out that Morrissey likes their films, so Morrissey was already familiar with Gal's taste in music. .

gal sounds like a really nice guy.. it seems as soon as you got a common bond through music and film to be easy to connect with morrissey...and if you re not youre out..like that unlucky crew member who got kicked out after the first day...
he was responsible for some nice stuff:
Writer:* In Production * 2000s * 1990s
1. Untitled Gad Beck Biopic (2009) (announced) (screenplay)
2. Buah, Ha- (2006) (writer)
... aka The Bubble (International: English title) (USA: new title)
3. Walk on Water (2004) (writer)
4. Ba'al Ba'al Lev (1997) (writer)
... aka Gotta Have Heart
5. "Florentine" (1997) TV series (unknown episodes)
Producer:
1. Buah, Ha- (2006) (producer)
... aka The Bubble (International: English title) (USA: new title)
2. Walk on Water (2004) (executive producer)
3. Yossi & Jagger (2002) (producer)
... aka Yossi VeJager (Israel: Hebrew title)
Music Department:
1. Yossi & Jagger (2002) (musical advisor)
... aka Yossi VeJager (Israel: Hebrew title)
Actor:
1. Albert (1999)

Gal Uchovsky
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0879799/

[davdavon]

On 'Yediot Ahronot' (Israeli newspaper) today:cool:
I scanned only the pics but I will scan the whole interview if you want (in Hebrew of course:p)

If you scan and post the interview I don't mind translating it.

[TuQui]

If you scan and post the interview I don't mind translating it.
ok. just a few minutes:);)
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/285/ccf0907200800009te5.th.jpg (http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ccf0907200800009te5.jpg)
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http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4334/ccf0907200800007hz8.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ccf0907200800007hz8.jpg)
that's all:P

[Kewpie]

If you scan and post the interview I don't mind translating it.

Awww, many thanks davdavon. :)

Hope you'll have a great time 29th July in Tel Aviv!!

[Assassin]

This will probably come off as racist and anti-semetic, but... why Israel? Of all the countries in the world, why there? Can we deduce from this that he is an Israeli sympathiser? Because, speaking as someone with experience living in occupied territory, I'm not sure I... never mind.

Well I don't think there is anything at all wrong with playing a gig in Israel. There is nothing wrong with Israeli or Jewish people.

[Kewpie]

This will probably come off as racist and anti-semetic, but... why Israel? Of all the countries in the world, why there? Can we deduce from this that he is an Israeli sympathiser? Because, speaking as someone with experience living in occupied territory, I'm not sure I... never mind.


We appreciate if you stop attempting hijack this thread.

If you want to discuss politics, please add your thoughts to the following thread.
Thanks.
http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80287

[justme]

Ahhh great news :)

Lior Ashkenazi is a fantastic actor (and very handsome too ;)). Of that list I've seen walk on water (my fav), late marriage (also very good) and the band's visit. The last one does not feature Lior but it's also very nice.

Now I'll have to look into the rest of that list.

Moz has an incredible good taste in film : Godard's band à part is great and so is Mama Roma by Pasolini, everything by Visconti,etc :D

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Ooh... The Band's Visit? Lucky him, it's not out yet. I missed it when it played here and it's in my Netflix queue waiting for release.

[Jane Birkin]

I understand. Still, there is and will be enough Moz bashers, so I wouldn't want to give them any ammunition. Until now, have made no comment regarding this concert and don't plan to make any further comment.

You do realise that this qualifies as a comment don't you?:p
As for the reason why Israel? Why not?
Israel is a beautiful country and israeli people are a lovely, charming bunch. The same can't be said about the Israeli government, but hey... George dubya is an asshole too, that doesn't mean that we should all stop visiting the US, does it now.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

You do realise that this qualifies as a comment don't you?:p
As for the reason why Israel? Why not?
Israel is a beautiful country and israeli people are a lovely, charming bunch. The same can't be said about the Israeli government, but hey... George dubya is an asshole too, that doesn't mean that we should all stop visiting the US, does it now.

I wrote, 'until now'.

America is on my boycott list. Despite my best friend and my brother, and previously Moz living and touring there. It is not a place I have been or intend to ever go. America is also a beautiful country and Americans, like the English, the Scots or any nationality of naked apes, are generally lovely, charming people too. The same could be said of Zimbabwe but I wont be going there anytime soon.

If you really need me to point out why I'd prefer Morrissey not to play there then I suspect either politics, religion or both have dulled your ability to evaluate and judge the morals of the state of Israel. 'I ain't gonna play Sun City.'

I did not say it isn't a beautiful country. Nor did I criticise the Israeli people.

This is now my second comment on this issue and as I do not feel the need, nor believe I have the ability to change anything, I would prefer not to debate it. Especially in a forum so frequented by those who would take great glee in Morrissey's audience being fractured on this issue. Cease fire.

'This land is your land. This land is my Land.' Woody Guthrie

[Jealous Of Youth]

We appreciate if you stop attempting hijack this thread.

If you want to discuss politics, please add your thoughts to the following thread.
Thanks.
http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80287

Moderator or not, can I just say that I do not appreciate your attitude and the phrasing of your posts sometimes. I was not trying to "hi-jack" this thread at all, I was merely raising a point and asking a question related to the original topic of this thread.

You could simply have said something like, "This has been discussed at this link", instead of that rude and, frankly, obnoxious reply you posted.

I'm not trying to start an arguement with you, I just feel the tone of your posts is perhaps something you may want to consider given your position as a moderator.

[5am]

Late Marriage broke my heart. It took me days to get over it.

[Je Suis Julie]

Late Marriage broke my heart. It took me days to get over it.

Me too, 5am!

I'm totally gonna ramble here because no one else I know in 'real' life has seen this film, and I've been wanting to talk about it.

Here be spoilers:


I think, in the end, the father turned out to be the greatest "villian," gleefully dancing at the wedding, despite having experienced the pain of "the way we do things" himself. He had the opportunity to allow his son some happiness, but refused to break with "tradition" and sent his son to the wolves, so to speak. (Poor sad veiled bride :mad:)

Everyone has a hand in the sadness, though. Lior's character should have stood up to his family, especially in front of his girlfriend (in front of her daughter no less).

But he's damned either way. So often the case in life.

Morally, yes, he should have followed his heart and stood up to his family but you can see his agony and the mental tug of war. He's a decent human being. He just chose the easy way, the "socially approved" way, not necessarily the best way, as most of us often do. We all want to be rebels, but its hard to say "no," especially if you like your family, or worse, depend on them. :D Dependence is the ultimate form of control. (Note to self: raise independent children).

And how great were those women's roles? I can't think of any recent Hollywood films with such realistic characters.

And, tying it back to this forum, I think that's part of the reason I admire Morrissey so much. He seems to have no trouble saying No to people. Years of Refusal, and all. But he doesn't set himself up on a pedestal, he's in the muck of life, like the rest of us.

End of ramble.


But that's just my take :)

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Moderator or not, can I just say that I do not appreciate your attitude and the phrasing of your posts sometimes. I was not trying to "hi-jack" this thread at all, I was merely raising a point and asking a question related to the original topic of this thread.

You could simply have said something like, "This has been discussed at this link", instead of that rude and, frankly, obnoxious reply you posted.

I'm not trying to start an arguement with you, I just feel the tone of your posts is perhaps something you may want to consider given your position as a moderator.

The thought police will censor you. Only the view of Kewpie is correct. No other views are valid.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Late Marriage broke my heart. It took me days to get over it.


Me too, 5am!

I'm totally gonna ramble here because no one else I know in 'real' life has seen this film, and I've been wanting to talk about it.

Here be spoilers:


I think, in the end, the father turned out to be the greatest "villian," gleefully dancing at the wedding, despite having experienced the pain of "the way we do things" himself. He had the opportunity to allow his son some happiness, but refused to break with "tradition" and sent his son to the wolves, so to speak. (Poor sad veiled bride :mad:)

Everyone has a hand in the sadness, though. Lior's character should have stood up to his family, especially in front of his girlfriend (in front of her daughter no less).

But he's damned either way. So often the case in life.

Morally, yes, he should have followed his heart and stood up to his family but you can see his agony and the mental tug of war. He's a decent human being. He just chose the easy way, the "socially approved" way, not necessarily the best way, as most of us often do. We all want to be rebels, but its hard to say "no," especially if you like your family, or worse, depend on them. :D Dependence is the ultimate form of control. (Note to self: raise independent children).

And how great were those women's roles? I can't think of any recent Hollywood films with such realistic characters.

And, tying it back to this forum, I think that's part of the reason I admire Morrissey so much. He seems to have no trouble saying No to people. Years of Refusal, and all. But he doesn't set himself up on a pedestal, he's in the muck of life, like the rest of us.

End of ramble.


But that's just my take :)


I'm putting the whole thing behind a spoiler tag.

I thought I posted it here, but it must have been on the main page. I hated his character so much at the end, he was so weak. I hated his family, too, but you can only be responsible for the choices you make, and he made the weakest one. Such a coward. Like his parents wouldn't have eventually come around. Parents always do. Once she gave him a son, all would have been forgiven.

Oh, and also-
Did anyone figure out where her other child was? I thought it was mentioned that she had two, but only the daughter lived with her? Had the other child died, or was (he?) living with her ex-husband?

Depending on the answer (which I suspect lies buried in the original dialogue and just didn't make it to the English subtitling,) it's kind of interesting that she may have already been forced to make a Sophie's Choice- yet when it was his turn, he failed. I can't imagine living without one of my two children.

[davdavon]

Not much of an interview, more of Ashkenazi's memoirs from the interview. I'm not a professional translator so there could be some minor inaccuracies or strange grammar, but… I did my best:

[mm... it tells me that the post is too long. Here's part one, then:]


A MEETING OF ADMIRERS
Lior Ashkenazi

It all began two years ago. Fans asked Morrissey on his blog which movies he likes, and he replied that the best film he saw recently was an Israeli film called "Late Wedding", featuring an Israeli actor named Lior Ashkenazi that he liked very much. He also wrote that he saw another film, "Walk on Water", and that he also enjoyed it a lot. Later on there came a story from Israeli fans who saw him performing in Istanbul. They raised the Israeli flag and he shouted in response "Lior Ashkenazi".
There was once an attempt to link the two of us through his blog and it didn't work out. It's a shame. As far as I'm concerned, Morrissey is the Smiths. As a typical refugee of the eighties, I know their records very well. I'm less familiar with his solo career, but still, he's Morrissey, a giant rock star. And now, that it was announced that he's coming to perform in Israel, an email correspondence began in Shuki Weiss' [the producer that's in charge of Morrissey concert in Israel - davdavon] office when Morrissey announced that he wants to meet me and only me. Of course, nothing was done in a direct manner – everything happened through middlemen, managers and agents. More or less like the negotiations between Israel and Syria.

HALAF U'DVASH
I invited Gal Uchovsky, who's a Morrissey expert and also a good friend of mine, to join me. So, on Friday, Uchovsky and I boarded a flight on our way to watch a Morrissey concert in London and have a personal meeting with Morrissey, towards his landing in Ganey Yehoshuah [the venue where Morrissey will perform in Israel – davdavon] on July 29th.
Before meeting him for the first time, in the suite of a luxurious hotel, we met Sarah, his manager, who explained to us that we have 25 minutes and warned us "not to ask anything about the Smiths, because on that very moment he will get up and leave the room". Morrissey entered the room, and he was very polite but quite suspicious. In order to break the ice, we gave him gifts we brought from Israel. These included DVDs of Gal and Eytan Fox's films, "Yossi & Jagger", "Walk on Water", "The Bubble" and "Gotta Have Heart", and also Dover Kosashvili's "Late Wedding" and "Gift from Above". Because there was a sale in the duty-free shop, we also got him the excellent "The Band's Visit". Gal also brought the new English Guide to Tel Aviv, and it certainly did the job. It seems that he's very fond of gifts. He knew all the films, even the ones that he didn't see, and told us that he already watched "Gift from Above", but without translation. We tried to understand how and when, but we didn't really manage to.
Gal and Morrissey started talking about things that only the both of them understood, old songs from the seventies and stuff like that. It turns out that they had a short email correspondence after Gal found out that Morrissey likes their films, so Morrissey was already familiar with Gal's taste in music. They also spoke about the Eurovision, that stopped interesting me in 1977, but it was certainly amusing hearing Morrissey trying to pronounce "Halav u'Dvash" ["Milk and Honey" - an Israeli pop group that won the Eurovision contest in 1979 – davdavon] and "Abanibi" [Israel's Eurovision-winning song in 1978 - davdavon].
"I don't really watch the Eurovision anymore", Morrissey quickly apologised when we asked him about songs from the recent contests.
- Which Israeli song do you remember the best from the Eurovision?
"Abanibi by Halav u'Dvash"
- "Abanibi" wasn't performed by Halav u'Dvash, it's Izhar Cohen's song. "Hallelujah" was Halav u'Dvash's song.
"Oh, so I like Abanibi as well".
Generally, Israel interests Morrissey very much. He asked us what shows are broadcast on our television and what's Tel Aviv like, whether he'll get a good reception, how many people will come to the concert, and particularly what food do we eat. Morrissey doesn't touch meat, and unlike many guests from abroad coming to Israel, he never really heard about humus and tahini. "I like light-coloured food, yoghurts", he apprehensively explained. We convinced him that everything will be alright.
Morrissey will stay three days in Israel, and the thing he wants the most, so he revealed to us, is to travel to the Dead Sea. He likes the idea of being there and recreating the scene from "Walk on Water". "I'd like to sit on the beach, cover myself in mud, and then get inside and float on the water," he told us. I promised him that if it works out, I'll take him to a place that I know in the Dead Sea. I told him that I already took Gérard Depardieu there when we filmed a movie together and that he had a great time. Don't let people say that we're not doing a good service to tourism in our country.
Morrissey isn't willing to commit himself regarding which songs he'll perform in his concert here. "I still enjoy performing very much", he said. "I sing what I decide to sing before the concert. I don't know if I'll sing the old Smiths hits. Maybe I will and maybe I won't. I'm my own master on the stage. I do what I want. I decide which songs I'll sing, what the setlist will be, and if I suddenly want to sing something different, I do it."
So Morrissey still wasn't willing to commit himself about his setlist in Ganey Yehoshuah, but he was quite interested in my musical preferences. "What music do you like?" he surprised me with a question. I was confused and didn't know what to answer. I was too embarrassed to tell him "yours", and didn't want to say anything that will insult him. Gal got me out of it and answered that I like the Beatles. Morrissey asked if there's nothing more contemporary and I said Beck. He didn't answer, just raised an eyebrow. I didn't understand if he liked him or not. However, he seems to intensely dislike Kylie Minogue, since he later asked us: "Did you hear that Kylie Minogue received an MBE from the Queen yesterday for her contribution to music? What exactly did she contribute to music? Can she sing? Can she write? What exactly can she do?"
Later he asked me since when I wanted to be an actor and which actors I liked in my youth. When I gave him the full list, including Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas, he rebuked me: "all Americans". I tried to save the situation, so I said "ehh, I also like Tom Conti", but apparently it was too late.
We sat for almost an hour, double the time that we were allocated, but the feeling was strange. All in all, I came there because he asked. He admires me for my films, I admire him for his music. On the flight I thought that maybe we'll go have a drink after the meeting, but London isn't Tel Aviv and Morrissey isn't Ivri Lider [an Israeli singer – davdavon]. We left with the feeling that we didn't get each other. Between the lines, we felt that he kept telling us "hey, we're actually quite the same", but going out, I thought that maybe we were just making it all up. Morrissey probably got how we felt. "I'll see you this evening, right?" he asked. "Come to me backstage". We understood by his stare that he was trying to calm us, that it was a work meeting, and that in the evening it will be more personal. Anyway, one of hi staff members explained to us where we should go after the concert, gave us backstage passes, and so we said goodbye.

[davdavon]

[part two]

FIFTY IS OLD
We had two hours to walk around the town and get settled in the hotel, and then we left by foot to Hyde Park. Morrissey's concert was the main event of the second day of a giant festival called O2 Wireless. Because of the time pressure, we didn't get the chance to check who's performing before Morrissey, and we were quite surprised when we heard familiar songs on the way and suddenly realised that Beck was on the stage. Just an hour before I looked for one of his albums in a store. But until we walked around the fences and got inside, Beck already finished. Exactly on a quarter to nine, as promised, Morrissey took the stage. With a T-shirt saying "Playboy", accompanied by five excellent young musicians. There, on the stage, we discovered a different person. Morrissey is a great performer. An awesome singer. He knows the job very well.
As someone with experience in working in front of an audience, I can determine that Morrissey knows exactly what to do on stage, how to tempt the audience, how to excite it. And also how to look correctly to the cameras that transmit him to the video screens. One should remember that he's 50 years old. In the morning, when we spoke to him about his age, he told us that 50 is old. After the fourth song he yelled to the audience: "Four songs and I'm still on my feet. What do you say?"
It seems that his ability to laugh about himself turns him into a true star, because from that moment, his age and looks didn't matter anymore. He took that demon, got it out, shook it, and that's it. From that moment he became lighter. And it was a pleasure. Morrissey's lyrics are quite international. He's very verbal, a kind of a Shlomo Artzi [an Israeli singer known for his on-stage banter – davdavon]. Everyone who knows him knows that already from the Smiths period, a great part of the issue were the lyrics. The words behind the music having meaning, being able to deliver a message.
Morrissey sang quite a few Smiths song, and hits of his from all eras. I was particularly excited by a forty-years old man standing next to me, singing all the songs together with his five-years old daughter, who sat on his shoulders during the whole concert. It was obvious that they both listen to his albums at home, and it was cute seeing such a little girl who knows every line of his songs by heart. Once in a few songs he changed his shirt in front of the audience, revealing his stomach without caring about it. Just taking it off and putting on another shirt. One of them was an American Idol T-shirt that he just threw to the audience.
After the concert we went to the backstage area. His manager led us to a small corner with grass and chairs, where about twenty people waited for him. We mainly recognised Chrissie Hynde, vocalist for the Pretenders, who came to show her respect. When he entered the room she showered him with compliments. In the beginning they felt a little clichéd, but as the evening went on it turned out that they're good friends.
In a certain stage Morrissey called us and introduced us to the people standing with him. Except for Hynde, there was also a young, very successful English comedian named Russell Brand, who's just starting to act in Hollywood now, Morrissey's sister and two of his nephews, around twenty years old, who gave the whole thing a family feeling. Slowly, we realise that the people who arrived there were his closest group, that we're in the most secure, guarded place in Morrissey's system. During the hour and a half that we stood there with him, no one took any picture, neither by camera nor by cellphone. No one asked anyone for an autograph. All the things that give a feeling of "work" weren't there.
Chrissie Hynde broke the ice with a story about an Israeli boyfriend she had during the last year and dumped her. She wouldn't stop cursing him, and all our attempts to tell her to come to Israel so we'll find her someone else, less of a bastard, wouldn't convince her. Morrissey himself was much more loose. He drank quite a few Coronas and burped without shame. In spite of that, he was in control the whole time. He recognised the moment when the conversation about Israeli men with Chrissie Hynde didn't lead anywhere, said "enough with the jokes" and changed the subject.
We were almost the last to leave. The party was over and it was clear that it's time to go home. I told Morrissey that I'd be glad to take him to the Dead Sea, if we have the time. But I didn't offer to exchange phone numbers or anything. I figured to myself that if he wants, I'll find a way to say it. And indeed, on the way out, his manager, who chased us out in the morning, gave me a visiting-card. On one side, the words "don't speak" were printed in small letters. On the other side, in his handwriting, his email address. I suppose that I'll mail him and thank him for the good concert. And if he really wants, we'll take him to the Dead Sea. After all, he's Morrissey.

[laughing_anne]

Thank you TuQui for the scans and davdavon for translating the story. :) It was an interesting read. Now I'm left with an image of Morrissey drinking beer and burping shamelessly. Oh dear. :D

[sweetness522]

Thank you for TuQui for making us aware of this article and davdavon for all your hard work for the wonderful translation. I'm just thinking of Morrissey floating in the Dead Sea and laughing.:D Great insightful article about the meeting.

[lux girl]

[part two]

He drank quite a few Coronas and burped without shame. In spite of that, he was in control the whole time.


Ah. The image of that will stay with me for some time!!
Many thanks davdavon for translating.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Thank you very, very much to TuQui for providing the scans and to davdavon for taking the time to translate that. It was brilliant! Very much appreciated.

"I'm my own master on the stage. I do what I want. I decide which songs I'll sing, what the setlist will be, and if I suddenly want to sing something different, I do it."

"Did you hear that Kylie Minogue received an MBE from the Queen yesterday for her contribution to music? What exactly did she contribute to music? Can she sing? Can she write? What exactly can she do?"

Both, class quotes.

A few quotes of interest from the author too:

'he never really heard about humus and tahini' - This means he probably hasn't heard of falafel either. How does one live without it?

'There, on the stage, we discovered a different person' - How often have we heard that? It seems to be a common first impression.

'He drank quite a few Coronas and burped without shame.' - His taste in beer is poor. A a few Coronas would make anyone burp. Further proof that he is indeed human.

Who is Sarah? I'm slipping up not knowing that. I hope she is good for him and is a nice person.

[Irish Budd]

Thanks to both Davdavon and TuQui.
A very interesting read.

[King Leer]

Thank you very much for taking the time to translate that. It's a unique view on the World of Morrissey.

The quote "Slowly, we realise that the people who arrived there were his closest group, that we're in the most secure, guarded place in Morrissey's system" stood out for me.

Enjoy the show there at the end of the month!

[Claudia2006]

Thank you very much for taking the time to translate that. It's a unique view on the World of Morrissey.

The quote "Slowly, we realise that the people who arrived there were his closest group, that we're in the most secure, guarded place in Morrissey's system" stood out for me.

Enjoy the show there at the end of the month!

^^ What he said. :D

That was extremely interesting. I hope Moz gets to go to the Dead Sea. I'm jealous of everybody who is going to see him in Tel Aviv!

[mell]

I just want to add my thanks to TuQui and davdavon! This was a fascinating read! Morrissey admitting he favors light-colored foods and hearing that he burped after drinking his Coronas made me giggle.

[Je Suis Julie]

Thank You, TuQui and Davdavon.

I hope Moz tries some hummus soon. Good stuff! And lots of protein. ;)

[mell]

I hope Moz tries some hummus soon. Good stuff! And lots of protein. ;)

I love hummus, how could Moz not be familiar with it? :eek: It's so good! He's missing out!

[Je Suis Julie]

I love hummus, how could Moz not be familiar with it? :eek: It's so good! He's missing out!

And it's very light in color.
Whip out the pita bread and you're all set!

[Unwitting Observer]

Thanks for the scan TQ and the translation, davdavon - that would've taken me a fifth of Jack D and 8 or 9 days with the pocket translator! ;)

thanks again!

[vicarinatutugal]

many thanks I really enjoyed reading that.

[Je Suis Julie]

I'm putting the whole thing behind a spoiler tag.

I thought I posted it here, but it must have been on the main page. I hated his character so much at the end, he was so weak. I hated his family, too, but you can only be responsible for the choices you make, and he made the weakest one. Such a coward. Like his parents wouldn't have eventually come around. Parents always do. Once she gave him a son, all would have been forgiven.

Oh, and also-
Did anyone figure out where her other child was? I thought it was mentioned that she had two, but only the daughter lived with her? Had the other child died, or was (he?) living with her ex-husband?

Depending on the answer (which I suspect lies buried in the original dialogue and just didn't make it to the English subtitling,) it's kind of interesting that she may have already been forced to make a Sophie's Choice- yet when it was his turn, he failed. I can't imagine living without one of my two children.



I missed the part about her having a son.....
(Not uncommon for me to miss entire chunks of plot, sheesh!)
She was the most admirable character of the lot, I think.
She was true to herself, and once she saw the Zaza was buckling under pressure and not standing up for her, she ended it. Painful as it was for her.
She lived her life the way he should have - standing by her integrity.
I don't know if I would have let Zaza's mother back in my house, even for a reconciliation. That was very saintly on her part. I think I'd hold a grudge. Or a machete.

[liebe]

Thank you for the translation :)

I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't eat hummus ;)

[lottie]

Thanks to all involved, a great read.

I too hate hummus, just the smell,:sick: but i LOVE falafel, which is odd as i dont generally like spicy stuff and it can be quite spicy.. :rolleyes:

[Uncleskinny]

Nice read Davdavon. Is the Gal mentioned in the article our very own StillIllGal?

Cheers,

Peter

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I missed the part about her having a son.....
(Not uncommon for me to miss entire chunks of plot, sheesh!)
She was the most admirable character of the lot, I think.
She was true to herself, and once she saw the Zaza was buckling under pressure and not standing up for her, she ended it. Painful as it was for her.
She lived her life the way he should have - standing by her integrity.
I don't know if I would have let Zaza's mother back in my house, even for a reconciliation. That was very saintly on her part. I think I'd hold a grudge. Or a machete.



I don't know for sure that it was a son, but I thought there was a spot in the dialogue when she says that she gave her husband two children, or something like that. Or perhaps mentioned having been through two pregnancies. The idea that it was a son and that she and her exhusband 'each took one' (which seems barbaric) was my own guess. I don't remember anything in the dialogue that suggested the other child had died. Of course, the entire idea of a second child could have been a misunderstanding on my part, or a bit of bad translation.

Too bad we don't have Morrissey's email address. Then we could email him and ask him for Ashkenazi's address so we could ask him. :p

[davdavon]

Nice read Davdavon. Is the Gal mentioned in the article our very own StillIllGal?

Mm... probably not. Gal Uchovsky is a famous Israeli journalist, music critic and scriptwriter (he wrote the script for Moz's fave Walk on Water and the rest of the Eytan Fox films that they gave him). He's also a judge on Kochav Nolad (the Israeli version of American Idol) and one of the first Israeli celebrities to be openly gay.

[CrystalGeezer]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3145/2655689125_ec37ee13b8.jpg

And TuQui too!

[sistasheila]

QUOTE=davdavon;911917][part two]
The party was over and it was clear that it's time to go home. I told Morrissey that I'd be glad to take him to the Dead Sea, if we have the time. But I didn't offer to exchange phone numbers or anything. I figured to myself that if he wants, I'll find a way to say it. And indeed, on the way out, his manager, who chased us out in the morning, gave me a visiting-card. On one side, the words "don't speak" were printed in small letters. On the other side, in his handwriting, his email address. I suppose that I'll mail him and thank him for the good concert. And if he really wants, we'll take him to the Dead Sea. After all, he's Morrissey.[/QUOTE]

oh the vryptic messages again..i wonder what he meant by that? "dont speak"
any idea?


great job davdavonn

not to forget lior
his style of (writing)telling a story is great..and very entertaining to read
very much appricaited..great ... i would love to read more

hehe the scenario of muddy morrissey floating on the dead sea..must be quite a sight:D


I invited Gal Uchovsky, who's a Morrissey expert and also a good friend of mine, to join me. . Morrissey entered the room, and he was very polite but quite suspicious. In order to break the ice, we gave him gifts we brought from Israel. These included DVDs of Gal and Eytan Fox's films, "Yossi & Jagger", "Walk on Water", "The Bubble" and "Gotta Have Heart", and also Dover Kosashvili's "Late Wedding" and "Gift from Above".
Gal and Morrissey started talking about things that only the both of them understood, old songs from the seventies and stuff like that. It turns out that they had a short email correspondence after Gal found out that Morrissey likes their films, so Morrissey was already familiar with Gal's taste in music. .

gal sounds like a really nice guy.. it seems as soon as you got a common bond through music and film to be easy to connect with morrissey...and if you re not youre out..like that unlucky crew member who got kicked out after the first day...
Gal Uchovsky
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0879799/

[Mars_Rover]

oh the vryptic messages again..i wonder what he meant by that? "dont speak" any idea?

Clearly, Moz is a No Doubt/Gwen Stefani fan.

[Psst...I think it means "do not share this e-mail address with anyone"]

[Mr Smith]

Sarah is his new manager right? the one that replaced Merck. I want to know who Jennifer is, that moz refers to in the XFM interview recently.

Hummas is nice. God bless the chick pea. Plus it is white / pale in colour. I don't like all this dietary / corona burping revelation. It makes Morrissey too human for me.

[CrystalGeezer]

Sarah is his new manager right? the one that replaced Merck. I want to know who Jennifer is, that moz refers to in the XFM interview recently.

Hummas is nice. God bless the chick pea. Plus it is white / pale in colour. I don't like all this dietary / corona burping revelation. It makes Morrissey too human for me.

I bet he poops too. But it probably doesn't stink. :p

[sistasheila]

Clearly, Moz is a No Doubt/Gwen Stefani fan.

[Psst...I think it means "do not share this e-mail address with anyone"]

loool nice one;)
i have never thought of that no doubt song for some obsure reason...

i wonder if his email refers to some obsure musician or actor....im sure it does him being so dedicated to popculture..lets guess eht it might be: ndyfan49 :D ehh no not obsure enough
..hahahhah

my emailadress refers to a band too (not the smiths)


Sarah is his new manager right? the one that replaced Merck. I want to know who Jennifer is, that moz refers to in the XFM interview recently.

H.
quote from interview
before meeting him for the first time, in the suite of a luxurious hotel, we met Sarah, his manager, who explained to us that we have 25 minutes and warned us "not to ask anything about the Smiths, because on that very moment he will get up and leave the room". Morrissey entered the room, and he was very polite but quite suspicious

[Mr_Shankly]

Though I didn't have to wait for the translation, I have to say: thumbs up, davdavon! great translation and respect for the time you put up in order to translate this article.



Later on there came a story from Israeli fans who saw him performing in Istanbul. They raised the Israeli flag and he shouted in response "Lior Ashkenazi".


It's my flag!!:D

Sorry, I had to show off..;)

[Kewpie]

Sarah is his new manager right? the one that replaced Merck. I want to know who Jennifer is, that moz refers to in the XFM interview recently.

Hummas is nice. God bless the chick pea. Plus it is white / pale in colour. I don't like all this dietary / corona burping revelation. It makes Morrissey too human for me.


Sarah is PA and Jennifer is PR officer.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I wonder if the cards were these:

http://seteditions.com/stoptalking.html

I saw these in a bookstore recently.

[Harsh Truth]

about time he got rid of the fax machine! :D

Thanks for translating - it was a good read.

[CrystalGeezer]

I wonder if the cards were these:

http://seteditions.com/stoptalking.html

I saw these in a bookstore recently.

That makes more sense. I think "don't speak" is a rough retranslation of "stop talking."

That was baffling me. Whew. Now I can relax.

[Corrissey]

Great read.

I thoroughly enjoyed “Morrissey is the Smiths”, to “after all, he’s Morrissey” – and everything in between! Moz is so very ‘human’ :o – even if he doesn’t like Beck.

Thanks, TuQui and many thanks to davdavon –I hope you (Lior and Gal) enjoy Mozzer’s visit. It’s nice to know he has people there looking out for him. :)

That ‘Don’t Speak’ card is a very cool touch. Two simple words, yet a confidentiality agreement.

Btw, I have GOT to see some, if not all of, those movies!!

[westendgirl]

That was a very interesting and unique piece to read. Thank you TQ and davdavon for scanning and translating. :)


The quote "Slowly, we realise that the people who arrived there were his closest group, that we're in the most secure, guarded place in Morrissey's system" stood out for me.

I found this stood out to me as well. It was nice to read that...
I thoroughly enjoyed this article. Especially all of the small details.

[westendgirl]

I wonder if the cards were these:

http://seteditions.com/stoptalking.html

I saw these in a bookstore recently.

ahahahaha, I seriously need to get some of these. They would do me a lot of good. I have quite a few people to hand these out to. :D

[Mars_Rover]

Quoth: "Before meeting him for the first time, in the suite of a luxurious hotel, we met Sarah, his manager, who explained to us that we have 25 minutes and warned us 'not to ask anything about the Smiths, because on that very moment he will get up and leave the room'. Morrissey entered the room, and he was very polite but quite suspicious."

So this meeting was primarily an interview for the Israeli newspaper, I take it - "business" as Lior says. Otherwise, it would seem a rather rude way to treat fellow artists: setting down ground rules and such, it's rather high-handed.

[Danny_]

Quoth: "Before meeting him for the first time, in the suite of a luxurious hotel, we met Sarah, his manager, who explained to us that we have 25 minutes and warned us 'not to ask anything about the Smiths, because on that very moment he will get up and leave the room'. Morrissey entered the room, and he was very polite but quite suspicious."

So this meeting was primarily an interview for the Israeli newspaper, I take it - "business" as Lior says. Otherwise, it would seem a rather rude way to treat fellow artists: setting down ground rules and such, it's rather high-handed.
I think it's just a way of trying to avoid the same old boring questions. Is there anything that Morrissey hasn't been asked about The Smiths already?

[mspendl828]

I know it was a long time ago in the thread, but thanks for the translation.

[sol]

[/QUOTE]
Sarah is his new manager right? the one that replaced Merck. I want to know who Jennifer is, that moz refers to in the XFM interview recently.



Who is Sarah? I'm slipping up not knowing that. I hope she is good for him and is a nice person



As someone who was died sexually, and with so many questions on sexuality now, he, has romance with all the women around , :confused::confused:

[Kewpie]

As someone who was died sexually, and with so many questions on sexuality now, he, has romance with all the women around , :confused::confused:


Have you read davdavon's translation properly?

Mr Ashkenazi mentioned Sarah was Morrissey's manager (in fact she's a personal assistant).

They're not romantically involved.
Sarah is working for Morrissey, that's all.

[Morrisseyfan08]

"most secure, guarded place in Morrissey's system".

He makes it sound like Hitler's bunker. Sorry I know the translation isn't exact but just made me laugh..

[CrystalGeezer]

"most secure, guarded place in Morrissey's system".

He makes it sound like Hitler's bunker. Sorry I know the translation isn't exact but just made me laugh..

I know. I'm thinking, "Geez. I want him to be safe but that's a little over the top." :)

[Morrisseyfan08]

Brand, Hynde and his family? Hardly Fort knox is it?

[Unwitting Observer]

Clearly, Moz is a No Doubt/Gwen Stefani fan.

[Psst...I think it means "do not share this e-mail address with anyone"]

wouldn't it be funny if he were?



That makes more sense. I think "don't speak" is a rough retranslation of "stop talking."

That was baffling me. Whew. Now I can relax.

:D ha...

I'm with Mars Rover tho; it probably does actually say "don't speak". I think it means something along the lines of "don't speak of this to anyone" kind of a thing.

Like, don't blab ! :guitar:

[sistasheila]

someone mentioned that the lior/moz interview was filmed and it is supposed to be released today (probably on the websiteof the newspaper... for which lior contributed this story)

..anoboy has any info on this? or was that a false info anyway?



On 'Yediot Ahronot' (Israeli newspaper) today
I scanned only the pics but I will scan the whole interview if you want (in Hebrew of course:p)
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/2793/ccf0907200800000un1.th.jpg (http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ccf0907200800000un1.jpg)http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1438/ccf0907200800001tw0.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ccf0907200800001tw0.jpg)
oh...
next to the two posted pics here in this thread
there is third pic which got posted on the main board
here it is...
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc131/mozzerlily/lior.jpg


I invited Gal Uchovsky, who's a Morrissey expert and also a good friend of mine, to join me. . Morrissey entered the room, and he was very polite but quite suspicious. In order to break the ice, we gave him gifts we brought from Israel. These included DVDs of Gal and Eytan Fox's films, "Yossi & Jagger", "Walk on Water", "The Bubble" and "Gotta Have Heart", and also Dover Kosashvili's "Late Wedding" and "Gift from Above".
Gal and Morrissey started talking about things that only the both of them understood, old songs from the seventies and stuff like that. It turns out that they had a short email correspondence after Gal found out that Morrissey likes their films, so Morrissey was already familiar with Gal's taste in music. .

gal sounds like a really nice guy.. it seems as soon as you got a common bond through music and film to be easy to connect with morrissey...and if you re not youre out..like that unlucky crew member who got kicked out after the first day...
Gal Uchovsky
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0879799/
in attachment : a pic of Gal
Gal`s own article of his view of meeting moz´(also longer and more detailed): http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=89249&highlight=gal

[Voodoo Doll]

Thanks for this. I cant stop thinking about Moz covered in mud and floating in the sea. Hope he gets some pictures!

[Panic40]

Thank you very much for translating it was a really good read.

[devout]

After all, he's Morrissey.

That'd make a great t-shirt :)

[karelMoz]

someone mentioned that the lior/moz interview was filmed and it is supposed to be released today (probably on the websiteof the newspaper... for which lior contributed this story)

..anoboy has any info on this? or was that a false info anyway?



Yes it has been filmed but they are having issues with the video (this whole interview was jinxed by me ;) )
It should be up this w/e or next week.

[sistasheila]

thnks karel-how did you know that?

that BURPING thing:
SANDIE SHAW wrote about it in her book":the world at my feet" too,when she visited him at bath during the viva hate recording
i read that book again at the moment...

"Morrissey continued to knock back his wine in uncharacteristic hedonistic fashion.
He giggled and BURPED a lot"
(....)

so moz as soon as youre a bit squiffy you lost your manners hmmm;-)lovely;-)



http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1989/playboy2.htm.
"Morrissey puts his hand to his stomach, scrunches up his eyes in mock pain and -- as genteely as such things can be -- BURPS.
"Oh, excuse me," he apologises.
A green bottle of Perrier water stands guiltily on the table between us, its former contents going down as well with the Morrissey digestive system as much of the great man's more inspired verbal moments have gone down with the musical establishment .

[StillillGal]

GAL UCHOVSKY
is also a "judge" on the israeli "american idol" "chohav nolad"
and i'v seen him couple of times wrearing a morrissey shirt:)

[Mel_Torment]

A MEETING OF ADMIRERS
Lior Ashkenazi

It all began two years ago. Fans asked Morrissey on his blog which movies he likes, and he replied that the best film he saw recently was an Israeli film called "Late Wedding", featuring an Israeli actor named Lior Ashkenazi that he liked very much.

Thanks very much, Davdavon and TuQui! It was a very interesting read.

As usual, I'm late to the party. Oh well, I was very tickled to see that my friend Mary is Morrissey-famous, sort of ;). She's the "some fans" (alone, though) who asked Morrissey which recent films he enjoys.

Here's the link to my mention of it some months back (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?p=813051&#post813051).

I remember when Mary told me last year how there's a fair amount of male frontal nudity in Late Marriage/Wedding, but she meant "Walk on Water". It didn't matter because I watched them both. And what's a little frontal nudity to someone who's spent several weeks watching gay pr0n for work (I was a judge for the GayVN awards)? Astonishingly I really enjoyed the films, the Lior Ashkenazi ones, I mean ;). Sometimes I think Mozzer has really awful taste in music :p, but I love most of his film faves.

[mell]

Here's the scene that Morrissey said he wants to recreate :sweet:
I wanna go to the Dead Sea too!

V_bJIZa4UQ4

[miryam_moz85]

Here's the scene that Morrissey said he wants to recreate :sweet:
I wanna go to the Dead Sea too!

V_bJIZa4UQ4

omg mell i want to have this movie..i have tears in my eyes..it's so dreamy, romantically and emotionally..aww..i imagine moz standing there.. and listen to the vibes of the water and watching all of it's beauty..so romantic..

thank you very much mell..this made my night:tears:

edit:..is watching again and at same breath buying at amazon.de

[sistasheila]

Astonishingly I really enjoyed the films, the Lior Ashkenazi ones, I mean ;). Sometimes I think Mozzer has really awful taste in music :p, but I love most of his film faves.

i absolutely agree i dont like a lot of his fave music but the films cause the kind of films he like are very close to mine fave genre "older" british/americanfilms from the 1920-1969and films from all centuries sometimes also with a queer twist/storyline:
in moz`s case for example: killing of sister george,victim,the leather boys and most recent walk on water...
I have watched B/w movies since i was a child cause it has a magic to me i cant quite explain

apropos walk on water: the blonde drag queen(called biggy van blond) they met in berlin (in the subwaystaton where the fight starts with some neonazis..i know her ..she has a columm in a berlin mag and i see quite often cause we attend the same parties ..whenever i am out and about in berlin(which doesnt that often) she is there...

[sistasheila]

LIOR reminds me a bit of a certain bollywood actor (esp the eyes) ..but I just cant remember his name for the life of me..damm