Are you not a true fan if you don't buy the releases?

[SpookyMulder]

I am quite frankly shocked at the number of people on here who seem to be saying they haven't bought the new single OR album - and don't plan to!

The ONLY acceptable reason for not buying it is financial considerations - i wouldn't expect anyone to struggle money-wise just to buy a CD. But availability in shops is no excuse, in this age of the internet.

IMO, if you don't buy his releases, you don't support him, & you're not a true fan.

[nugz]

I am quite frankly shocked at the number of people on here who seem to be saying they haven't bought the new single OR album - and don't plan to!

The ONLY acceptable reason for not buying it is financial considerations - i wouldn't expect anyone to struggle money-wise just to buy a CD. But availability in shops is no excuse, in this age of the internet.

IMO, if you don't buy his releases, you don't support him, & you're not a true fan.

ok, you're not doing a very good job in convincing us that those other threads were started by some hijacker.

[nugz]

yeah, 'spooky' isn't it;)

teehee :p



I'll buy his new album when its released, sure. but not some faux greatest hits.

[SpookyMulder]

yeah, 'spooky' isn't it;)

Errr - why? Because i may have strong opinions?

I've already been over this on Friday (in fact, i have found out the full version of events from who did it, but why bother explaining here - you'll obviously throw it back in my face.)

I happen to believe if you don't buy every official release, you're not a fan.

[nugz]

Errr - why? Because i may have strong opinions?

I've already been over this on Friday (in fact, i have found out the full version of events from who did it, but why bother explaining here - you'll obviously throw it back in my face.)

I happen to believe if you don't buy every official release, you're not a fan.

not b/c you have strong opinions, but b/c of the way you worded the title of this thread. that should be obvious. and to say doing something or not doing something makes you a "true" fan is just silly. there's no "true fan scale."

[laughing_anne]

I happen to believe if you don't buy every official release, you're not a fan.

You're taking this a bit too seriously, aren't you...

[mozzia]

I am quite frankly shocked at the number of people on here who seem to be saying they haven't bought the new single OR album - and don't plan to!

The ONLY acceptable reason for not buying it is financial considerations - i wouldn't expect anyone to struggle money-wise just to buy a CD. But availability in shops is no excuse, in this age of the internet.
IMO, if you don't buy his releases, you don't support him, & you're not a true fan.

Not being able to find the single in shops is my excuse for not buying it. As for the internet...i'm not a fan of downloading, much prefer buying a physical purchase. Not that an excuse is NEEDED :rolleyes: Just cos you're a fan, doesn't mean you have to buy EVERYTHING.

[Jukebox Jury]

I haven't bought either the album or the single yet.
Firstly, I'm not really bothered if people see me as a 'true' fan or just 'a fan'. I know in my own mind what I am.
And I also know I am not a mug.
I refuse to buy an album at top whack containing songs I already own (in many other formats and previous compilations too) except two new songs. The single is on there too, which on the single is backed by live B-sides only. Sorry, Am I meant to buy all three single formats to 'prove' I am a true fan?
So there is a 'bonus' live disc with the album too, whoopy do. I didn't buy 'Live at Earls Court' either, live albums / bootlegs not being my thing.

In a few weeks time, the album will be a fiver in Fopp Records, then I shall buy it merely for THPGO and AYNIM to be in my collection.

Jukebox Jury

[nugz]

I have a piece of Morrissey's shirt that i fought for with my bare hands. I keep it in a ziplock bag and when I have a bad day, I take out my ziplock bag, open it, take a whiff, and then feel better.

does THAT make me a true fan?????

[SpookyMulder]

Not being able to find the single in shops is my excuse for not buying it. As for the internet...i'm not a fan of downloading, much prefer buying a physical purchase. Not that an excuse is NEEDED :rolleyes: Just cos you're a fan, doesn't mean you have to buy EVERYTHING.

I'm not talking about downloading - i'm talking about buying the physical versions of the single via the internet.

[cornelius blaze]

Errr - why? Because i may have strong opinions?I've already been over this on Friday (in fact, i have found out the full version of events from who did it, but why bother explaining here - you'll obviously throw it back in my face.).

For Christ sake:rolleyes:It was a joke.....and a play of words, using your username!



I happen to believe if you don't buy every official release, you're not a fan.

I happen to believe that is an idea and attitude of a 12 year old....so bite me:D


I haven't bought either the album or the single yet.
Firstly, I'm not really bothered if people see me as a 'true' fan or just 'a fan'. I know in my own mind what I am.
And I also know I am not a mug.
I refuse to buy an album at top whack containing songs I already own (in many other formats and previous compilations too) except two new songs. The single is on there too, which on the single is backed by live B-sides only. Sorry, Am I meant to buy all three single formats to 'prove' I am a true fan?
So there is a 'bonus' live disc with the album too, whoopy do. I didn't buy 'Live at Earls Court' either, live albums / bootlegs not being my thing.

In a few weeks time, the album will be a fiver in Fopp Records, then I shall buy it merely for THPGO and AYNIM to be in my collection.

Jukebox Jury

JJ, your the man:)

[dom]

Errr - why? Because i may have strong opinions?

I've already been over this on Friday (in fact, i have found out the full version of events from who did it, but why bother explaining here - you'll obviously throw it back in my face.)

I happen to believe if you don't buy every official release, you're not a fan.



Spookymulder, you have worded it very much the same as the 'Does being a vegetarian make you a better Morrissey fan' thread. Even i looked twice when i was scanning the front page threads. I thought someone had started the thread on veggies all over again, and then i saw it was a different subject but worded similarly. The very 1st thing i thought was that it was meant to be a mimick of the 'Veggies being better fan' thread.

Either way, just chill dude. It's just a forum. So what. Meh.

[essential]

I really don’t understand why. What constitutes a “true” fan? To me, being a fan is supporting someone artistically, the financial support is merely a bi-product.

Since 1984 I could not possibly reckon up how much money I have spent buying Smiths and Morrissey records, going to shows (not just the ticket price but travelling, hotels, spends, childcare), buying music papers simply because they have articles about him, T shirts, memorabilia etc. etc. I have paid my dues over the years.

Keeping up with the Jones’s isn’t the be-all and end-all and just because I don’t have every single release in every single format and I haven’t been to every concert doesn’t make me any less of a fan than anyone else.

That’s how people grow up!

[nugz]

I happen to believe that is an idea and attitude of a 12 year old....so bite me:D

haha. I heart you.




JJ, your the man:)

yes, I heart JJ too.

[SpookyMulder]

I really don’t understand why. What constitutes a “true” fan? To me, being a fan is supporting someone artistically, the financial support is merely a bi-product.

Since 1984 I could not possibly reckon up how much money I have spent buying Smiths and Morrissey records, going to shows (not just the ticket price but travelling, hotels, spends, childcare), buying music papers simply because they have articles about him, T shirts, memorabilia etc. etc. I have paid my dues over the years.

Keeping up with the Jones’s isn’t the be-all and end-all and just because I don’t have every single release in every single format and I haven’t been to every concert doesn’t make me any less of a fan than anyone else.

That’s how people grow up!

I wouldn't expect ANYONE to have been to every concert! As for the single releases - it doesn't take much to buy 34 singles in 20 years, and not on every format - just the one's that feature different songs (either new or Live).

[dom]

But anyway, to answer your question.

There is no such thing as a 'better fan' Never has been and never will be. Being a fan is based on your own interpritation, relation and reaction with him/her, and not conditional on what you buy.

My dad is better than your Dad. Anyone remember those arguments from primary school? Yea, the mentality of 12 year olds.

[laughing_anne]

I wouldn't expect ANYONE to have been to every concert! As for the single releases - it doesn't take much to buy 34 singles in 20 years, and not on every format - just the one's that feature different songs (either new or Live).

Wow, how very big of you...

[SpookyMulder]

haha. I heart you.





yes, I heart JJ too.

So "Hearting" people isn't the attitude of a 12 year old girl then?

Funnily enough, i WILL explain the further info i got from the guy who came on here under my name at work the other day - he told me the reason he took it so far wasn't out of spite at me - it was because he was so pissed off at the "cliquey, we look after our own attitudes" on here, he got so wound up he lost the plot a bit.

I have to say that quenched my anger at him a lot as i know EXACTLY what he means. This thread proves it. "Hearting" each other - truly pathetic.

[mozzia]

I'm not talking about downloading - i'm talking about buying the physical versions of the single via the internet.

But i like doing things the old-fashioned way, and actually going into a shop, picking up the CD, looking at it, thinking, yeah, I'm buying this, finding cash in my pocket, handing it to the human being, having a small conversation, being offered a bar of chocolate at a special reduced price, refusing politely, and saying thank you, and wandering home. :cool:

[nugz]

So "Hearting" people isn't the attitude of a 12 year old girl then?

Funnily enough, i WILL explain the further info i got from the guy who came on here under my name at work the other day - he told me the reason he took it so far wasn't out of spite at me - it was because he was so pissed off at the "cliquey, we look after our own attitudes" on here, he got so wound up he lost the plot a bit.

I have to say that quenched my anger at him a lot as i know EXACTLY what he means. This thread proves it. "Hearting" each other - truly pathetic.

well i most certainly do not heart you! hmmph! :mad:

[withmyheadonthebar]

So "Hearting" people isn't the attitude of a 12 year old girl then?

Funnily enough, i WILL explain the further info i got from the guy who came on here under my name at work the other day - he told me the reason he took it so far wasn't out of spite at me - it was because he was so pissed off at the "cliquey, we look after our own attitudes" on here, he got so wound up he lost the plot a bit.

I have to say that quenched my anger at him a lot as i know EXACTLY what he means. This thread proves it. "Hearting" each other - truly pathetic.

So he insulted your wife to upset us? Interesting.

[laughing_anne]

But i like doing things the old-fashioned way, and actually going into a shop, picking up the CD, looking at it, thinking, yeah, I'm buying this, finding cash in my pocket, handing it to the human being, having a small conversation, being offered a bar of chocolate at a special reduced price, refusing politely, and saying thank you, and wandering home. :cool:

Same here! Getting a CD through your letterbox just isn't the same... :)

[dom]

So "Hearting" people isn't the attitude of a 12 year old girl then?

Funnily enough, i WILL explain the further info i got from the guy who came on here under my name at work the other day - he told me the reason he took it so far wasn't out of spite at me - it was because he was so pissed off at the "cliquey, we look after our own attitudes" on here, he got so wound up he lost the plot a bit.

I have to say that quenched my anger at him a lot as i know EXACTLY what he means. This thread proves it. "Hearting" each other - truly pathetic.

Jesus Mary and Joeseph! I thought some people on here needed chill pills, but you need an extra large dose. Chill the hell out. It's just a soddin forum. My word, anyone would think it's a thread site for the manic depressed. Who cares.

I think 'hearting' was a typing mistake, she meant to type i "HEAR" you, i think, or maybe not, even if they were HEARTING each other, so what, it's more fun than getting all het up about a forum.

[essential]

I wouldn't expect ANYONE to have been to every concert! As for the single releases - it doesn't take much to buy 34 singles in 20 years, and not on every format - just the one's that feature different songs (either new or Live).

What, even if you don't like them?

[SpookyMulder]

So he insulted your wife to upset us? Interesting.

No, that was his idea of "Humour" aimed at me - the insults came a little later. I have re-read the threads he wrote - whilst i don't like what he did, i can see more & more why he did some of it.

[nugz]

Jesus Mary and Joeseph! I thought some people on here needed chill pills, but you need an extra large dose. Chill the hell out. It's just a soddin forum. My word, anyone would think it's a thread site for the manic depressed. Who cares.

I think 'hearting' was a typing mistake, she meant to type i "HEAR" you, i think, or maybe not, even if they were HEARTING each other, so what, it's more fun than getting all het up about a forum.

no i meant heart. instead of typing out "I <3 you." i was just being silly, i dont need to justify myself to Spooky anyway. Cornelius and JJ appreciated it I'm sure! nugz love is the best!!! :p

[nugz]

No, that was his idea of "Humour" aimed at me - the insults came a little later. I have re-read the threads he wrote - whilst i don't like what he did, i can see more & more why he did some of it.

I'm starting to think you have split personalities.

[dom]

no i meant heart. instead of typing out "I <3 you." i was just being silly, i dont need to justify myself to Spooky anyway. Cornelius and JJ appreciated it I'm sure! nugz love is the best!!! :p

haha, fair enough :) I heart anybody as friendly as you two :D

[SpookyMulder]

What, even if you don't like them?

Yes - i didn't really like "My Love Life"; still bought it because i'm a fan - you either get everything or nothing at all.

[nugz]

haha, fair enough :) I heart anybody as friendly as you two :D

most of us on here are very friendly. here's some hearts for you! :) <3333

[nugz]

Yes - i didn't really like "My Love Life"; still bought it because i'm a fan - you either get everything or nothing at all.

yeah says who?

[laughing_anne]

Yes - i didn't really like "My Love Life"; still bought it because i'm a fan - you either get everything or nothing at all.

I'm sure Morrissey and his record company would just love that attitude...

[spike]

Ok, I'm a bit scared of getting slaughtered here but.....
I think there is some confusion here over the term FAN. I think Spooky is getting mixed up between a Moz Fan and a Moz collector.A Moz collector will most probably be a fan as well but a fan may NOT always be a collector.
To a certain extent i consider myself to be both, I'll even admit that when i went slightly "off fan" status in the early/mid 90's i was still buying all the releases, thats because i had made a decision way back in the 80's to collect this mans music. In the last 5 or 6 years i have become a fan again but i am still also a collector.
I'm a fan of a lot of things but do not buy and collect everything associated with them.
So that's my opinion, please be gentle.

[SpookyMulder]

Ok, I'm a bit scared of getting slaughtered here but.....
I think there is some confusion here over the term FAN. I think Spooky is getting mixed up between a Moz Fan and a Moz collector.A Moz collector will most probably be a fan as well but a fan may NOT always be a collector.
To a certain extent i consider myself to be both, I'll even admit that when i went slightly "off fan" status in the early/mid 90's i was still buying all the releases, thats because i had made a decision way back in the 80's to collect this mans music. In the last 5 or 6 years i have become a fan again but i am still also a collector.
I'm a fan of a lot of things but do not buy and collect everything associated with them.
So that's my opinion, please be gentle.

Best post of the day, my friend - many of the contributors here are band-wagon jumping glory supporters, who abandoned him in the mid-90's. Where were they when "Roy's Keen" stalled at 42? And where would they be again if those chart positions re-occured?

We buy the music as we support the man - through thick & thin.

I salute you, Sir.

[SpookyMulder]

I
HEART
NUGZ

Ah yes, the behaviour of a 12 year old girl - how you must all be sniggering & slapping yourself on the back here, this little clique you have going.

I joined to discuss one of my favourite singers, hoping this place would be populated by like-minded individuals. Instead i find it populated by sad geeks with no life.

My colleague was right - the internet forum IS populated by losers with no lifes.

[HIM]

I am quite frankly shocked at the number of people on here who seem to be saying they haven't bought the new single OR album - and don't plan to!

The ONLY acceptable reason for not buying it is financial considerations - i wouldn't expect anyone to struggle money-wise just to buy a CD. But availability in shops is no excuse, in this age of the internet.

IMO, if you don't buy his releases, you don't support him, & you're not a true fan.

on the other hand, do people give a toss about whether or not they're "a true fan"? i mean, unless you're 15 years old, it's a pretty naff way to define yourself, is it not?

(also: possibly, another valid reason for not buying steve's latest product is that people might think it's shite.)

[HIM]

[...] i can see more & more why he did some of it.

funny, that :rolleyes:

[Paulc]

Ah yes, the behaviour of a 12 year old girl - how you must all be sniggering & slapping yourself on the back here, this little clique you have going.

I joined to discuss one of my favourite singers, hoping this place would be populated by like-minded individuals. Instead i find it populated by sad geeks with no life.

My colleague was right - the internet forum IS populated by losers with no lifes.

hopefully this is your way of saying goodbye? Please say it is.

[HIM]

Ah yes, the behaviour of a 12 year old girl

whereas, worshipping a multi-millionaire celebrity singer is the hallmark of a mature, well-rounded adult.

really, it is.

[EPbabe]

My colleague was right - the internet forum IS populated by losers with no lifes.


Your colleague whose identity you've stolen for posting here? :confused:

[SpookyMulder]

Again, the facts are ignored, the insults are thrown, the clique looks after it's own.

I came on here today ready to debate & enjoy some good discussion - instead, the losers with no lifes, the geeks who roam the internet cannot welcome a newcomer, they instead rally round because they don't like strangers around these parts.

Am i saying goodbye? I'm not sure - why let you enjoy your clique? Maybe i'll stay around and antagonise you a while longer.

[SpookyMulder]

Your colleague whose identity you've stolen for posting here? :confused:

Look, what i told you the other day was true, and we made our peace - but read this thread; do you think the responses i've recieved have been fair?

I started this thread with no malice & look what's happened.

[HIM]

Am i saying goodbye? I'm not sure - why let you enjoy your clique? Maybe i'll stay around and antagonise you a while longer.


personally, i hope you'll stay - i think you're hilarious.

[laughing_anne]

Look, what i told you the other day was true, and we made our peace - but read this thread; do you think the responses i've recieved have been fair?

I started this thread with no malice & look what's happened.

You basically told me that I'm not a Morrissey fan because I don't own every single release.. Yep, no malice there..

[EPbabe]

Look, what i told you the other day was true, and we made our peace - but read this thread; do you think the responses i've recieved have been fair?

I started this thread with no malice & look what's happened.

You could've started this thread with a slightly different title then. You shouldn't be surprised at people's reactions - your alterego used suspiciously similar titles for his/her threads...

[HIM]

You basically told me that I'm not a Morrissey fan because I don't own every single release.. Yep, no malice there..

does matter to you, though? would you really care if you weren't thought of as a morrissey fan?

[cornelius blaze]

My colleague was right - the internet forum IS populated by losers with no lifes.

was this the same person who used your Morrisseysolo Alias?;)


Again, the facts are ignored, the insults are thrown, the clique looks after it's own.

I came on here today ready to debate & enjoy some good discussion - instead, the losers with no lifes, the geeks who roam the internet cannot welcome a newcomer, they instead rally round because they don't like strangers around these parts.

Am i saying goodbye? I'm not sure - why let you enjoy your clique? Maybe i'll stay around and antagonise you a while longer.

So the people who do debate your question or try and joke with you, you just insult. I was one of the people who gave you the benefit of the doubt on friday.
Your true 'fan' buying every release idea is just nonsense and it is just as juvenile, as your colleagues threads on friday.



Am i saying goodbye? I'm not sure - why let you enjoy your clique? Maybe i'll stay around and antagonise you a while longer.

please do....but i don't feel its us that is being antagonised!

[laughing_anne]

does matter to you, though? would you really care if you weren't thought of as a morrissey fan?

Just passing time, trying to avoid actually working...

And for he record, as long as I know I'm a fan, I really don't care what the spookymulders of this world think. Just fun to see him so wound up though...

[esheh195]

So "Hearting" people isn't the attitude of a 12 year old girl then?

Funnily enough, i WILL explain the further info i got from the guy who came on here under my name at work the other day - he told me the reason he took it so far wasn't out of spite at me - it was because he was so pissed off at the "cliquey, we look after our own attitudes" on here, he got so wound up he lost the plot a bit.

I have to say that quenched my anger at him a lot as i know EXACTLY what he means. This thread proves it. "Hearting" each other - truly pathetic.

*COUGH* BULLSHIT *COUGH*

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Again, the facts are ignored, the insults are thrown, the clique looks after it's own.

I came on here today ready to debate & enjoy some good discussion - instead, the losers with no lifes, the geeks who roam the internet cannot welcome a newcomer, they instead rally round because they don't like strangers around these parts.

This is the internet, what were you expecting?

[dom]

Ah yes, the behaviour of a 12 year old girl - how you must all be sniggering & slapping yourself on the back here, this little clique you have going.

I joined to discuss one of my favourite singers, hoping this place would be populated by like-minded individuals. Instead i find it populated by sad geeks with no life.

My colleague was right - the internet forum IS populated by losers with no lifes.

Once again ... Chill out... It's a forum ... people should be allowed to be geeks if they want. Who cares how people act here!? It's an automatic artificial form of comunication. And .................. it's just a forum :rolleyes:

[SpookyMulder]

This is the internet, what were you expecting?

Truest post all day mate - you're dead right!

I guess i hoped for a little solidarity & some like-minded people.

Ah well - wrong again!

[nugz]

*COUGH* BULLSHIT *COUGH*

ok im back home on my shitty ass computer where I can't multiquote or post smileys, but I just wanted to add:

HI esheh!!! i heart you too!!

and thx cornelius!! <333

annddddd, spooky, i think you're fuckin crazy. like...britney spears crazy...

[EPbabe]

I guess i hoped for a little solidarity & some like-minded people.

Sorry for not showing solidarity. The thing is that I don't agree with your approach. There is no such thing as good/bad/true/better/worse fan. So the whole debate makes no sense for me, and as I see, for many others either. Again: your threads would be far more welcome if you tried to reword their titles... Just an idea.

[dom]

Again, the facts are ignored, the insults are thrown, the clique looks after it's own.

I came on here today ready to debate & enjoy some good discussion - instead, the losers with no lifes, the geeks who roam the internet cannot welcome a newcomer, they instead rally round because they don't like strangers around these parts.

Am i saying goodbye? I'm not sure - why let you enjoy your clique? Maybe i'll stay around and antagonise you a while longer.

Oh for goodness sake. leave, stay, antagonise, pick cheese out of you belly button. Do whatever you want. At then end of the day, you wont be LEAVING anything, you will have just STOPED posting on a forum site. Big deal. In the whole scheme of things and in this very large universe, this forum isn't that important or serious. I got upset with peoples attitude when i first signed up, but i realised that i was just being a big baby and taking things far too seriously. I am embarassed that i acted like that, as i am embarassed for you now. So just leave, or don't leave. Either way, stop being such a gimp.

[laughing_anne]

Truest post all day mate - you're dead right!

I guess i hoped for a little solidarity & some like-minded people.

Ah well - wrong again!

It's funny how you assume that everyone agrees with you and when they don't you get very upset and get all defensive..

[esheh195]

nugz love is the best!!! :p
:horny: I'll be the judge of that. What are you doing later? ;)


Best post of the day, my friend - many of the contributors here are band-wagon jumping glory supporters, who abandoned him in the mid-90's. Where were they when "Roy's Keen" stalled at 42? And where would they be again if those chart positions re-occured?
We buy the music as we support the man - through thick & thin.
I salute you, Sir.
Glory supporters? What band wagon would we be jumping on? Yay! Moz singles and albums have done alright since 2004 or whatever...but he sure as hell isn't exactly in vogue. When I told me that I was going to 5 Morrissey shows last year, the universal reaction I got was a puzzled look followed by "who?" or "The guy from the Doors? Isn't he dead?"
Anyone who is a fan of Morrissey certainly doesn't do it to be seen as cool....it just kinda gets ya...like a virus or something.


Again, the facts are ignored, the insults are thrown, the clique looks after it's own.

I came on here today ready to debate & enjoy some good discussion - instead, the losers with no lifes, the geeks who roam the internet cannot welcome a newcomer, they instead rally round because they don't like strangers around these parts.

Am i saying goodbye? I'm not sure - why let you enjoy your clique? Maybe i'll stay around and antagonise you a while longer.

Does being an antagonistic, melodramatic, hyper-sensitive piece of crap make you a better Morrissey fan? :p

[HIM]

Truest post all day mate - you're dead right!

I guess i hoped for a little solidarity & some like-minded people.

Ah well - wrong again!

why is being a morrissey fan such a good thing? i'm interested.

[SpookyMulder]

Sorry for not showing solidarity. The thing is that I don't agree with your approach. There is no such thing as good/bad/true/better/worse fan. So the whole debate makes no sense for me, and as I see, for many others either. Again: your threads would be far more welcome if you tried to reword their titles... Just an idea.

I will take your words on board, as you are one of the few people here who seems to want to be constructive.

I would feel ashamed to change my stance just to accomodate some of the people on here though.

I think Morrissey WOULD be sickened, to quote my imposter from the other day.

[esheh195]

HI esheh!!! i heart you too!!

Prove it. ;) :D



annddddd, spooky, i think you're fuckin crazy. like...britney spears crazy...

Whoa there...now that's pretty fuckin crazy!

http://media.funlol.com/content/img/crazy-britney-spears.jpg
http://offedit.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/baldbritney.jpg
http://www.thejay.com/wp-content/britneyspearsumbrella2.jpg

[nugz]

:horny: I'll be the judge of that. What are you doing later? ;)


pick me up at 7? :p

[HIM]

We buy the music as we support the man - through thick & thin.

that sentiment's a bit stupid, though.

[starless]

I will buy the new album, but I don't care if people think I am a true or untrue fan, truly.

[dom]

I will take your words on board, as you are one of the few people here who seems to want to be constructive.

I would feel ashamed to change my stance just to accomodate some of the people on here though.

I think Morrissey WOULD be sickened, to quote my imposter from the other day.

People are being constructive. They are reacting to your question in an honnest way. Some people think that there's no such thing as a 'true fan' as i actually said myself (very constructively i thought) in my second post to you. Others think and act in their own way that doesnt answer your question. So what.

[HIM]

I think Morrissey WOULD be sickened, to quote my imposter from the other day.

well, let's face it, it doesn't take much to sicken him. he's what my mum would call a Big Wet Tulip.

shame he has no gigs to cancel, at the moment; this woulda been a perfect opportunity.

[SpookyMulder]

well, let's face it, it doesn't take much to sicken him. he's what my mum would call a Big Wet Tulip.

shame he has no gigs to cancel, at the moment; this woulda been a perfect opportunity.

Maybe he read this forum & decided that he didn't want to perform to these kinds of "fans".

I wouldn't blame him.

I've just e-mailed my Wife- she has picked me up the LIMITED EDITION 2 CD VERSION of Mozzers Greatest Hits - i'm looking forward to playing it tonight.

I'm a true fan.

[CrystalGeezer]

Last night I was socializing with friends. The topic of Morrissey came up when it was noticed that my laptop had a frinky picture of him on it. My friend said, "Oh you should meet our friend Nicole, she's CRAZY about Morrissey. She knows every little detail about him, has a huge collection of Morrissey memorabilia, even sends him flowers on his birthday every year." I smiled and quietly wondered where I'd even send the flowers, then started to question the extent of my own dedication to the man who makes me the happiest. I didn't buy the single. I don't know every B-side. I haven't read all the books he has. I haven't even seen the movie Rebel Without a Cause. So on the surface I can't say that my actions would categorize me as anything more than a fervent follower and believer in Morrissey. Whether that be considered a "true fan" I'm not certain, but I do have an overpowering sense to look after my favorite singer, to right the things that have ailed him or gone wrong in his life, no easy task as a quiet listener on the sidelines watching the spectacle that is "the life of a rock star." To me this doesn't mean obsessing about chart positions and who thinks he's anti-semitic or not (which he isn't,) it means saying a little prayer that his cold gets better or offering my support by attending as many concerts as I can. Most importantly I think being a true fan is singing and pondering his songs, engaging in his work. They went on discussing Nicole's obsession and asked "Do you even know when his birthday is Amie?" In my subconscious quest to wish upon Morrissey a balanced and more happy life, I said without hesitation, "May 23."

[stephk817]

Truest post all day mate - you're dead right!

I guess i hoped for a little solidarity & some like-minded people.

Ah well - wrong again!

You must have never ever been on other artists fan boards. Trust me it's the same for all artists. This is a relatively nice and calm one. I've been literally cyber stalked just because I voiced my honest opinion on another artist's forum. :eek:

It's also the same thing in getting people to buy the records, download, defend the artist when negative articles are written, etc. Fan behavior is just another expose of human behavior.

[nugz]

Prove it. ;) :D

you're on!



http://media.funlol.com/content/img/crazy-britney-spears.jpg


i like her cheetos tattoo. i love cheetos.

[HIM]

I'm a true fan.

that's quite an achievement.

i think others, here, are just jealous that they can't worship a pop star with as much zeal as you.

[starless]

So let me recap.
If one claims to be a true Morrissey fan one has to:

- buy every Morrissey release
- become a vegetarian
- abstain from sex

Anything else? It really IS hard work being a true Morrissey fan, innit?

[nugz]

Last night I was socializing with friends. The topic of Morrissey came up when it was noticed that my laptop had a frinky picture of him on it. My friend said, "Oh you should meet our friend Nicole, she's CRAZY about Morrissey. She knows every little detail about him, has a huge collection of Morrissey memorabilia, even sends him flowers on his birthday every year." I smiled and quietly wondered where I'd even send the flowers, then started to question the extent of my own dedication to the man who makes me the happiest. I didn't buy the single. I don't know every B-side. I haven't read all the books he has. I haven't even seen the movie Rebel Without a Cause. So on the surface I can't say that my actions would categorize me as anything more than a fervent follower and believer in Morrissey. Whether that be considered a "true fan" I'm not certain, but I do have an overpowering sense to look after my favorite singer, to right the things that have ailed him or gone wrong in his life, no easy task as a quiet listener on the sidelines watching the spectacle that is "the life of a rock star." To me this doesn't mean obsessing about chart positions and who thinks he's anti-semitic or not (which he isn't,) it means saying a little prayer that his cold gets better or offering my support by attending as many concerts as I can. Most importantly I think being a true fan is singing and pondering his songs, engaging in his work. They went on discussing Nicole's obsession and asked "Do you even know when his birthday is Amie?" In my subconscious quest to wish upon Morrissey a balanced and more happy life, I said without hesitation, "May 23."

like i said, my home computer is beat and wont let me post smilies, but if it would i would put the *applause* smiley right here!

right on sista!

[dom]

Maybe he read this forum & decided that he didn't want to perform to these kinds of "fans".

I wouldn't blame him.

I've just e-mailed my Wife- she has picked me up the LIMITED EDITION 2 CD VERSION of Mozzers Greatest Hits - i'm looking forward to playing it tonight.

I'm a true fan.

heh heh, you'd be right at home with naranjijo (or however you spell his name)

I think Moz left the stage cos his throat was hurting a bit. I'm sure he has a chuckle or two at people like yourself.

Icidently, you are ignoring the hell out of me and havent replied to any of my posts. You're such a horrid ninny head :mad:

[SpookyMulder]

So let me recap.
If one claims to be a true Morrissey fan one has to:

- buy every Morrissey release
- become a vegetarian
- abstain from sex

Anything else? It really IS hard work being a true Morrissey fan, innit?

Ah dammit - i don't fall into the final category!

Ah well - i'll give up the meat but not that! Anyway, how do we know Mozzer doesn't do the "beast with two backs"?

[dom]

So let me recap.
If one claims to be a true Morrissey fan one has to:

- buy every Morrissey release
- become a vegetarian
- abstain from sex

Anything else? It really IS hard work being a true Morrissey fan, innit?

HAHAHAHAHA :D i love it when a post here makes me literaly laugh out loud. Thank you for another humourous installment in this crazy over-serious Moz solo world :)

[CrystalGeezer]

like i said, my home computer is beat and wont let me post smilies, but if it would i would put the *applause* smiley right here!

right on sista!

While you're cleaning up I will now plan my next screenplay and think about what I'm going to wear today. :p Actually, I thought about that yesterday. I will think about what I'm going to wear tomorrow.

[troubleluvsme]

So let me recap.
If one claims to be a true Morrissey fan one has to:

- buy every Morrissey release
- become a vegetarian
- abstain from sex

Anything else? It really IS hard work being a true Morrissey fan, innit?

Starless, you should read Buzzetta's thread in Off Topic...he pretty much sums it up ;)....

[AndrewGMooney]

I'm happy to confirm I have never been a 'fan'. Of Morrissey or anyone else. I am a discerning member of The Audience regardless of the Artist involved.

'Fan' is derivative of 'fanatic'. I'm not in the habit of surrendering to any such psychological delusions.

I buy physical products as and when my schedule allows: Not in response to any marketing push by a record company. I love the whole social sensation of retail purchasing, the looks others in the queue give as they furtively glance at your purchases. I have had one too many irritating experiences buying online and waiting an age for the product to arrive.

'Downloads' are irrelevant to me other than as a taster. I'm an audiophile and I want a lossless copy of any song I'm prepared to spend valuable time listening to repeatedly. I certainly would never buy any lo-fi crap from Itunes or 7Digital. And don't bother arguing. We all have different ears. Mine are sensitive enough to tell, lots of people can't. It's not snobbery. It's the physics of sound. I've had my hearing tested. It's acutely sensitive. I can hear digital compression artifacts at low-bit rates. It ruins it for me, if not for others.

It's not my job to bolster the low-self esteem and fragile confidence of any Artist who is so insecure as to rely on chart placings for artistic validation. It's simply too ridiculous to countenance.

The song and hits compilation will become a chart success if the reaction of casual radio listeners is sufficiently enthusiastic. I hope Morrissey does continue to have a Mass Audience as it appears to be an important part of generating his enthusiasm to tour and also to write new albums.

I have never 'supported' Morrissey and he has never 'supported' me. It's a transaction in a marketplace, whether a gig or a recording. The fact that both he and I choose to read all manner of other levels of intrigue into the 'transaction' such as to create a 'psuedo-relationship' adds to the mutual pleasure of the transaction. But, that's all it is. He's alone. I'm alone. We're all alone.
Together, yet alone.

Regards

[HIM]

Excuse me, Mr HIM, sir! has anybody here pointed out that Morrissey doesn't like his fans being called 'fans', but being called his 'audience'?

i would forgive you, tmyem!, but "a true fan" would know that, in the early days of the smiths, steve always referred to his fans as "apostles".

are you a new apostle? i find your oversight inexcusable.

[HIM]

I'm happy to confirm I have never been a 'fan'. Of Morrissey or anyone else. I am a discerning member of The Audience regardless of the Artist involved.

'Fan' is derivative of 'fanatic'. I'm not in the habit of surrendering to any such psychological delusions.

I buy physical products as and when my schedule allows: Not in response to any marketing push by a record company. I love the whole social sensation of retail purchasing, the looks others in the queue give as they furtively glance at your purchases. I have had one too many irritating experiences buying online and waiting an age for the product to arrive.

'Downloads' are irrelevant to me other than as a taster. I'm an audiophile and I want a lossless copy of any song I'm prepared to spend valuable time listening to repeatedly. I certainly would never buy any lo-fi crap from Itunes or 7Digital. And don't bother arguing. We all have different ears. Mine are sensitive enough to tell, lots of people can't. It's not snobbery. It's the physics of sound. I've had my hearing tested. It's acutely sensitive. I can hear digital compression artifacts at low-bit rates. It ruins it for me, if not for others.

It's not my job to bolster the low-self esteem and fragile confidence of any Artist who is so insecure as to rely on chart placings for artistic validation. It's simply too ridiculous to countenance.

The song and hits compilation will become a chart success if the reaction of casual radio listeners is sufficiently enthusiastic. I hope Morrissey does continue to have a Mass Audience as it appears to be an important part of generating his enthusiasm to tour and also to write new albums.

I have never 'supported' Morrissey and he has never 'supported' me. It's a transaction in a marketplace, whether a gig or a recording. The fact that both he and I choose to read all manner of other levels of intrigue into the 'transaction' such as to create a 'psuedo-relationship' adds to the mutual pleasure of the transaction. But, that's all it is. He's alone. I'm alone. We're all alone.
Together, yet alone.

Regards


succinct.

is there an abridged version?

[Bluebirds]

Pictures of Morrissey's arse just about sum his attitude up to this release. As in can't be.....

And neither can I. Whats the point? I stopped obsessing about having every single thing Morrissey has recorded in about 1994, arguably the time when he was at his creative solo peak. 10 minute versions of Moonriver didntwash with methen and lazy releases involving live versions of some of your favourite Smiths classics don't wash with me now.

I go to some of the gigs, I buy the albums, I sometimes buy the lead-off singles. I'm sure Morrissey couldn't give a flying fuck either way. I think he appreciates (the majority) of his audience/ fans/ obsessives but really wouldn't want to socialise with them. And neither me with he.

[HIM]

Pictures of Morrissey's arse just about sum his attitude up to this release. As in can't be.....

And neither can I. Whats the point? I stopped obsessing about having every single thing Morrissey has recorded in about 1994, arguably the time when he was at his creative solo peak. 10 minute versions of Moonriver didntwash with methen and lazy releases involving live versions of some of your favourite Smiths classics don't wash with me now.

I go to some of the gigs, I buy the albums, I sometimes buy the lead-off singles. I'm sure Morrissey couldn't give a flying fuck either way. I think he appreciates (the majority) of his audience/ fans/ obsessives but really wouldn't want to socialise with them. And neither me with he.

i agree, sir.

[esheh195]

pick me up at 7? :p

Don't you have work at nite? Then again, there's always the warehouse. ;)

[nugz]

Don't you have work at nite? Then again, there's always the warehouse. ;)

no, im off tonight. i work every OTHER night! :D

[cornelius blaze]

i would forgive you, tmyem!, but "a true fan" would know that, in the early days of the smiths, steve always referred to his fans as "apostles".

are you a new apostle? i find your oversight inexcusable.

BUT.................oh hell. what will my redemption be Mr HIM:(


Pictures of Morrissey's arse just about sum his attitude up to this release. As in can't be.....And neither can I. Whats the point? I stopped obsessing about having every single thing Morrissey has recorded in about 1994, arguably the time when he was at his creative solo peak. 10 minute versions of Moonriver didntwash with methen and lazy releases involving live versions of some of your favourite Smiths classics don't wash with me now.I go to some of the gigs, I buy the albums, I sometimes buy the lead-off singles. I'm sure Morrissey couldn't give a flying fuck either way. I think he appreciates (the majority) of his audience/ fans/ obsessives but really wouldn't want to socialise with them. And neither me with he.

I feel like that about The Fall. (not that they did a 10 minute version of moonriver). Or that i have all their LPs.

[esheh195]

well, let's face it, it doesn't take much to sicken him. he's what my mum would call a Big Wet Tulip.

shame he has no gigs to cancel, at the moment; this woulda been a perfect opportunity.
HIM, this post made me LOL in the middle of my office. HAHAHA


Maybe he read this forum & decided that he didn't want to perform to these kinds of "fans".

I wouldn't blame him.

Yeah, I'm sure the millions he's made off of these "fans" doesn't more than make up for it. :rolleyes:


no, im off tonight. i work every OTHER night! :D
Don't worry, if I drive all the way down there...you'll be working real hard tonight too. ;):eek:
*reaches in pocket for my Binaca*
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/Wiryu/binaca.jpg
"How you doin'?" :D

[nugz]

Don't worry, if I drive all the way down there...you'll be working real hard tonight too. ;):eek:
*reaches in pocket for my Binaca*
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/Wiryu/binaca.jpg
"How you doin'?" :D

hahaha. oh, i just lol'd and snorted. you're such a freak! haha. you and your silly jpegs.

[Ilmarë]

"True" fan doesn't have to like every album.

I don't have all releases, but I f*cking am a true Morrissey-fan! I just don't have money very much.

[celibate]

I am quite frankly shocked at the number of people on here who seem to be saying they haven't bought the new single OR album - and don't plan to!

The ONLY acceptable reason for not buying it is financial considerations - i wouldn't expect anyone to struggle money-wise just to buy a CD. But availability in shops is no excuse, in this age of the internet.

IMO, if you don't buy his releases, you don't support him, & you're not a true fan.

you can not rate if ones a fan by how many records or gigs one has/went

it's in the heart, body , mind and soul [or something like that:confused:]

:sweet:

[Ilmarë]

it's in the heart, body , mind and soul [or something like that:confused:]

:sweet:
Well said! <3

[Hellie]

I am a fan and care about Morrissey.He would be happy to have a number one album so ofcourse I buy everything.Regardless if i have it another format.:)

[Hellie]

Spookymulder, you have worded it very much the same as the 'Does being a vegetarian make you a better Morrissey fan' thread. Even i looked twice when i was scanning the front page threads. I thought someone had started the thread on veggies all over again, and then i saw it was a different subject but worded similarly. The very 1st thing i thought was that it was meant to be a mimick of the 'Veggies being better fan' thread.

Either way, just chill dude. It's just a forum. So what. Meh.



We need Columbo on the job.

This is right up his street.Was watching a Columbo yesterday and it was all to do with fags and typed scripts and the way the killer had worded and arranged his script in a different manner to the victim.Now that is spooky.:rolleyes:

[Hellie]

but Hellsbells, was it 'spooky mulder';)


No unfortunately it was an actor whose really smooth and orange....Hamilton i think his last name was.

I had a lovely day yesterday.I watched three Columbo's back to back and ate a lot of chocolate.The kids were happy.I put them in the attic.

[dom]

We need Columbo on the job.

This is right up his street.Was watching a Columbo yesterday and it was all to do with fags and typed scripts and the way the killer had worded and arranged his script in a different manner to the victim.Now that is spooky.:rolleyes:

heheheh :D indeed. Good old Columbo. Them were the days :)

[SpookyMulder]

But i like doing things the old-fashioned way, and actually going into a shop, picking up the CD, looking at it, thinking, yeah, I'm buying this, finding cash in my pocket, handing it to the human being, having a small conversation, being offered a bar of chocolate at a special reduced price, refusing politely, and saying thank you, and wandering home. :cool:

I know exactly where you are coming from - i would always buy a single or album in the shop, but if at the end of the day i lived somewhere that didn't stock it, i'd rather get it through the post than not at all.

[maybe]

I didn't buy the album because I have all the songs. I'm not a collector, so there's no point in buying it. It's not that I don't have the money, but I *hate* spending it for useless things. A CD that I won't even play falls in that category, plain and simple. And the bum picture isn't worth €20 ;) I will happily rush out and buy the new album on day of release though, something that I've always done with my favourite artists.
But you'll be very surprised to hear that I bought the CD single... just because I -gasp- like the song.

[Velvis]

being offered a bar of chocolate at a special reduced price, refusing politely, and saying thank you, and wandering home.

Haaa Ha !
I know that shop!

I always say 'Yes' to the chocolate, then walk away feeling furtive and guilty...

[jossu]

This thread made me laugh out loud!:D

Unfortunately, mr. spooky mulder, I think I'll have to agree with so many others: there is no such thing in life as a 'true' fan.

[MadameChaos]

I have a piece of Morrissey's shirt that i fought for with my bare hands. I keep it in a ziplock bag and when I have a bad day, I take out my ziplock bag, open it, take a whiff, and then feel better.

does THAT make me a true fan?????

Er, it means you are a true FREAK!

[vivabob]

im bored with these true fan posts

[esheh195]

im bored with these true fan posts

A true fan wouldn't get bored with these posts. :p

[Robert Neville]

buy the greatest hits album :eek: does this make me a bad fan?

[yesitis]

no. just a false fan. you don't exist.

[Robert Neville]

no. just a false fan. you don't exist.

then what are you speaking to?

[yesitis]

tyler durden

[Robert Neville]

brad pitt?

[yesitis]

no, my goldfish tyler

[Robert Neville]

no, my goldfish tyler

aaaaaah, say hello from me

[yesitis]

he says you should buy the album.

[Ilmarë]

I have two Best Of-CD:s. I'm a bad, bad fan. =0

[jossu]

I have two Best Of-CD:s. I'm a bad, bad fan. =0

Hehee, you're from Finland!:p Minä myös (tosin tällä hetkellä opiskelemassa Cardiffissa).

[Hellie]

buy the greatest hits album :eek: does this make me a bad fan?

It means you just don't care enough to help him get to number one in the album charts.I took my kids out today and went without lunch just so i could afford it.(we need a smilie here that has wings:p)

I'd walk on coals to bring him some sunshine.;)

[Robert Neville]

It means you just don't care enough to help him get to number one in the album charts.I took my kids out today and went without lunch just so i could afford it.(we need a smilie here that has wings:p)

I'd walk on coals to bring him some sunshine.;)

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but i dont think that me not buying the album will deny him a number one album

[Hellie]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but i dont think that me not buying the album will deny him a number one album


ahh but we all count...every single one of us.If we all said we'd download it illegally (not suggesting you would) then he'd never ever chart again.and then he'd not tour and become all disolushioned.:tears:

[Robert Neville]

ahh but we all count...every single one of us.If we all said we'd download it illegally (not suggesting you would) then he'd never ever chart again.and then he'd not tour and become all disolushioned.:tears:

hmmmm, you may have convinced me, well done!!

ps - I was always going to buy the album, it was all a test....;)

[Corrissey]

you can not rate if ones a fan by how many records or gigs one has/went

it's in the heart, body , mind and soul [or something like that:confused:]

:sweet:

'Older and wiser' :D


I didn't buy the album because I have all the songs. I'm not a collector, so there's no point in buying it. It's not that I don't have the money, but I *hate* spending it for useless things. A CD that I won't even play falls in that category, plain and simple. And the bum picture isn't worth €20 ;) I will happily rush out and buy the new album on day of release though, something that I've always done with my favourite artists.

But you'll be very surprised to hear that I bought the CD single... just because I -gasp- like the song.

I was right there with ya until that last sentence ;)

[Hellie]

hmmmm, you may have convinced me, well done!!

ps - I was always going to buy the album, it was all a test....;)


Now you're on the level

You're a sly devil

Robert Neville:guitar::D:):cool:

[Robert Neville]

Now you're on the level

You're a sly devil

Robert Neville:guitar::D:):cool:

lol, that was very good, in fact it shall go in my sig (if thats what you people call it!)

[essential]

It means you just don't care enough to help him get to number one in the album charts.I took my kids out today and went without lunch just so i could afford it.(we need a smilie here that has wings:p)

I'd walk on coals to bring him some sunshine.;)

Have I got that right - you took your kids out and made them go without lunch so you could buy the album (scratches head)?

[CharethCutestory]

But it's a collection of songs which (assuming that you've purchased all of the albums) you already own, plus two "bonus" tracks. Now those bonus tracks are, by all accounts, a big load of old shite. They're only there to get people who already own the other albums to buy this cd. They (the record company) are conning you into buying it because they know that you're a completist.

Artists with a decent amount of integrity tend to avoid sticking bonus tracks on these cds because they realise that it's a bit unfair to their dedicated fan base.

Who was it again who sang -

"Re-issue ! re-package ! re-package !
Re-evaluate the songs
Double-pack with a photograph
Extra track (and a tacky badge)"

He's like the Ben Elton of pop.

Also, it's not really an album is it, he's not put any (new) work into it, so he doesn't really deserve to be at the top of the album charts with it.

[Robert Neville]

No, i think she went without lunch.


Hey, Bobby. I ain't getting it either bub! (waiting for the sales).


Edit: saw that you are getting it!!!!!

the sales?! what sales? I would wait for the sales....

[girlunafraid]

I'm certainly not buying it, especially since a free download link was provided on this site, but the OH has pre-ordered 3 copies if HMV honour the £2.99 price tag.

Expect to see it in the woolies bargain bin by the end of the month.

[Robert Neville]

god damn. I've been moved

[dicartwright]

this pisses me off.
And I never use that phrase.

Don't judge. Don't assume.

Nobody's gonna tell me I'm not a true "fan" or "Devotee".

I'm not going into this again, I'm already sorry I decided to say this.

[Dave]

http://i32.tinypic.com/2eozame.gif

[oscillate wildly]

hahaha. oh jeez.

[andreatobrazil]

I have a piece of Morrissey's shirt that i fought for with my bare hands. I keep it in a ziplock bag and when I have a bad day, I take out my ziplock bag, open it, take a whiff, and then feel better.

does THAT make me a true fan?????

I do the same thing when I have a bad day! Smelling the shirt always makes me feel a little better. Takes me back to a wonderful memory.

[esheh195]

Artists with a decent amount of integrity tend to avoid sticking bonus tracks on these cds because they realise that it's a bit unfair to their dedicated fan base.

Who was it again who sang -

"Re-issue ! re-package ! re-package !
Re-evaluate the songs
Double-pack with a photograph
Extra track (and a tacky badge)"


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
You just broke Rule #2!!! :mad::p:D
http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showpost.php?p=740634&postcount=1

[CharethCutestory]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
You just broke Rule #2!!! :mad::p:D
http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showpost.php?p=740634&postcount=1

Surely the fact that somebody bothered to write that implies that I have a point, otherwise it wouldn't have been raised before.

[Vauxhall95]

I am quite frankly shocked at the number of people on here who seem to be saying they haven't bought the new single OR album - and don't plan to!

The ONLY acceptable reason for not buying it is financial considerations - i wouldn't expect anyone to struggle money-wise just to buy a CD. But availability in shops is no excuse, in this age of the internet.

IMO, if you don't buy his releases, you don't support him, & you're not a true fan.

I am quite frankly shocked I'm forced to pay $42.98 at Amazon for the Collector's Edition of Morrissey's Greatest Hits - a collection of songs all of which I have except for two average new singles I can download from 7digital.com.

Get off you high horse... Jesus!:sick:

[Dave]

Surely the fact that somebody bothered to write that implies that I have a point, otherwise it wouldn't have been raised before.

when you're wrong you're wrong, and when you argue the point you're tedious.

[CharethCutestory]

when you're wrong you're wrong, and when you argue the point you're tedious.

Sorry, how am I wrong? For going against some made up rules?

My original point still stands.

[Hellie]

Have I got that right - you took your kids out and made them go without lunch so you could buy the album (scratches head)?


er.....no.I'm not THAT much of a bitch!!Not even for Moz would i let them go hungry.They got stuck in-even had ice cream and the six year old fed me scraps.;)

[Hellie]

lol, that was very good, in fact it shall go in my sig (if thats what you people call it!)


Yes..its my first ever poem. I didn't know i was capable of such literary heights.:rolleyes:

[Dave2006]

I've been reading this from begining to end for the last half hour or so , some very funny bits, but something has been bugging me since page 4;


"Do you even know when his birthday is Amie?" In my subconscious quest to wish upon Morrissey a balanced and more happy life, I said without hesitation, "May 23."

Morrissey's birthday is May 22nd...does this mean I can join the gang? Am I a true fan?

(BTW, CrystalGeezer, I'm wishing you a balanced and more happy life, not trying to score points :) )

If it counts, I tried to buy the vinyl album today but nowhere in Manchester stocked it...I will buy the CDs when they make it to the bargain bin at FOPP

[CharethCutestory]

I haven't bought the greatest hits cd for a number of reasons -

1) I already own all the songs apart from the two bonus tracks which, as I have already said, suck balls.
2) His last two albums have been absolute toss and I have decided, on the strength of this, to count myself out of that exclusive club who buy whatever old shite he churns out.
3) I'm not sure I want to give my money to a right wing lunatic who, despite thinking that it's wrong to cull animals to keep them out of the cities, is happy to go on record as saying that there are too many human immigrants coming into the UK. The man's gone fucking looney tunes.

In fact, having read what I've just written, I'm not sure I'm actually a fan anymore. Imagine if you will that you're at a circus. In the beginning the circus is brilliant, it's key appeal is that it has two ringmasters who, between them, put on the best tricks that you've ever seen, plus they have two of the best assistants that you've ever seen putting on genuinely innovative supporting performances.

After a while the second ringmaster decides to leave the circus due to the first ringmaster's increasingly wierd behaviour. He tries out a variety of different circuses which all turn out to be quite different from his first one, but are ultimately nowhere near as good, until he eventually unexpectedly joins Modest mouse and redeems himself back up to genius status.

The two assistants have now got annoyed and asked for some money from the two ringmasters, claiming that they have been unfairly treated.

Meanwhile the first ringmaster, despite many years having passed, is still trying to perform his original act which involved throwing nuggets of gold from a bucket directly at you in the audience. The trouble is, he's run out of golden nuggets now, and now he's been reduced to throwing lumps of his own soggy shit at you. At this point it's only a matter of time before you walk out of that circus isn't it. Walk out of the circus all covered in that ringmaster's poo..... with a copy of his greatest hits cd in your hand.

[Not Right in the Head]

I haven't bought the greatest hits cd for a number of reasons -...

Theo?

[CharethCutestory]

Theo?

Yes I am. Cockroach, is that you?

[AndrewGMooney]

succinct.

is there an abridged version?

yes, it's the one you quoted in full.

[oscillate wildly]

I do the same thing when I have a bad day! Smelling the shirt always makes me feel a little better. Takes me back to a wonderful memory.

wow, the shirt still has a scent to it? moz must use some very strong stuff. :D that's really really cool.

[nugz]

Er, it means you are a true FREAK!

well, I've surely never denied that

[nugz]

Yes I am. Cockroach, is that you?

hahahahahahahaha! i snort-laughed

[esheh195]

Sorry, how am I wrong? For going against some made up rules?

My original point still stands.
Don't let Corny see that you made fun of his rules. He worked long and hard on them! :mad::p


I haven't bought the greatest hits cd for a number of reasons -

1) I already own all the songs apart from the two bonus tracks which, as I have already said, suck balls.
2) His last two albums have been absolute toss and I have decided, on the strength of this, to count myself out of that exclusive club who buy whatever old shite he churns out.
3) I'm not sure I want to give my money to a right wing lunatic who, despite thinking that it's wrong to cull animals to keep them out of the cities, is happy to go on record as saying that there are too many human immigrants coming into the UK. The man's gone fucking looney tunes.

In fact, having read what I've just written, I'm not sure I'm actually a fan anymore. Imagine if you will that you're at a circus. In the beginning the circus is brilliant, it's key appeal is that it has two ringmasters who, between them, put on the best tricks that you've ever seen, plus they have two of the best assistants that you've ever seen putting on genuinely innovative supporting performances.

After a while the second ringmaster decides to leave the circus due to the first ringmaster's increasingly wierd behaviour. He tries out a variety of different circuses which all turn out to be quite different from his first one, but are ultimately nowhere near as good, until he eventually unexpectedly joins Modest mouse and redeems himself back up to genius status.

The two assistants have now got annoyed and asked for some money from the two ringmasters, claiming that they have been unfairly treated.

Meanwhile the first ringmaster, despite many years having passed, is still trying to perform his original act which involved throwing nuggets of gold from a bucket directly at you in the audience. The trouble is, he's run out of golden nuggets now, and now he's been reduced to throwing lumps of his own soggy shit at you. At this point it's only a matter of time before you walk out of that circus isn't it. Walk out of the circus all covered in that ringmaster's poo..... with a copy of his greatest hits cd in your hand.

The circus is evil because they abuse animals. You must obviously NOT be a TRUE FAN and are a BAD person!! :mad::cool:

[esheh195]

(what rules did i make:confused:)
http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showpost.php?p=740634&postcount=1 ;) :D

Evidence that Rule #2 was flagrantly broken LOLZ:


Who was it again who sang -

"Re-issue ! re-package ! re-package !
Re-evaluate the songs
Double-pack with a photograph
Extra track (and a tacky badge)"

[esheh195]

but, i didn't make those rules:confused: that was 9 x Fined!

But I bloody agree with it:D

HAHAHAHA! :D Wow! I am fucking shot! LOL When I clicked on that link to include it in my post yesterday....I coulda sworn I saw your avatar/username there. :confused: :o

[CharethCutestory]

No, it's cool rules are made to be broken. (what rules did i make:confused:)

No, he just sees morrissey as a bit of a clown:eek:

More like a strong man, who's let himself go. Swilling pints, stood at a bar (you have to imagine the pints and the bar, but it's not much of a stretch).

http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/cribnotes/files/2007/07/morrissey6_web.jpg

[9 x Fined]

I'm willing to bet there are people on here who have acquired their entire Morrissey collection for free, via torrents, asking for stuff on here etc.

Something not quite right about that.

[Vauxhall95]

I am quite frankly shocked at the number of people on here who seem to be saying they haven't bought the new single OR album - and don't plan to!

The ONLY acceptable reason for not buying it is financial considerations - i wouldn't expect anyone to struggle money-wise just to buy a CD. But availability in shops is no excuse, in this age of the internet.

IMO, if you don't buy his releases, you don't support him, & you're not a true fan.

Yes, the price for the Import version of the Greatest Hits - Collector's Edition is now a modest $51.98 on Amazon in the U.S. (a mere 26.48 Pounds for our U.K. friends). Instead of condemning others, why don't you justify the price tag of that little gem?

P.S. You're an ass-clown.:)

[Vauxhall95]

I wouldn't expect ANYONE to have been to every concert! As for the single releases - it doesn't take much to buy 34 singles in 20 years, and not on every format - just the one's that feature different songs (either new or Live).

"Expect." That is the key word. Screw you and your "expectations." Live your life and leave the rest of use alone. :)

[CharethCutestory]

Yes, the price for the Import version of the Greatest Hits - Collector's Edition is now a modest $51.98 on Amazon in the U.S. (a mere 26.48 Pounds for our U.K. friends). Instead of condemning others, why don't you justify the price tag of that little gem?

P.S. You're an ass-clown.:)

And let's not forget, that not only is this little collection expensive, but the tracklisting is wank! Not only is it not worth the money of someone who already owns the songs, the songs they choose are the weaker tracks from his back catalogue.

It's almost as if Norrissey is seeing just how far he can push his ridiculously obsessed fan base before they realise he's acting like a big old cunt.

I mean come on. Redondo beach? Redondo ball-sweat more like.

p.s - I'm loving the phrase ass-clown.