Most overrated Morrissey song?

[chrisarclark]

what is the most overrated song in Moz's catalogue, overrated either by the masses, critics or (more likely) "hardcore" fans?

if you choose "other", please indicate what song yuve chosen with a post.

and before people start getting their back up, there's only one or two songs that iwould truly criticize, "Ganglord" and "Life Is A Pigsty".

[Kewpie]

For people who missed earlier thread:

http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=65293

My choice is First of the Gang to die.

[DAVID is my HERO]

Also, This Charming Man.

[Jamie]

If I could, I would vote 1,000 times for How Soon Is Now. Having seen him eight times in the last three years, I would be happy to never hear this song again. It made me ill to see it get the largest reaction at each and every concert. As for the studio version, anytime I play Hatful of Hollow or Meat is Murder I run for the skip button.

I hate how it has become emblematic of the "alternative Eighties" simply because it was fairly popular here in the States. Its ubiquity has had a deleterious effect on its artistic posterity, IMO. There are so many other Smiths songs that unfairly get overlooked.

Cheers,

Jamie

[DAVID is my HERO]

If I could, I would vote 1,000 times for How Soon Is Now.

Amen.

[Girl Unafraid]

I voted for Life Is A Pigsty.
I just don't get it, the music is flat and boring, the lyrics say absolutely nothing to me. I was so frustrated when it was chosen for the 'Get Moz in the charts' download thingy, and it just confounds me when I see so many people name it as their favourite song from Ringleader. :confused:

[Assassin]

I voted for Life Is A Pigsty.
I just don't get it, the music is flat and boring, the lyrics say absolutely nothing to me. I was so frustrated when it was chosen for the 'Get Moz in the charts' download thingy, and it just confounds me when I see so many people name it as their favourite song from Ringleader. :confused:

Well I like the minimal change in the words because it gradually builds up and his voice becomes more emotive with each repetition. I love the song.

I voted Ganglord...just because it's a b-side

[Casagrande]

I voted for Ganglord. Last Night I Dreamt.. is also very overrated, in my opinion.

[Dothatagain?]

I was tempted to go for "Ganglord", which is very average, but then I saw "Suedehead" on the list. It's a decent enough single, but its huge score in Houdini's Top 100 poll is really quite baffling.

[DAVID is my HERO]

Whoever votes for I Know It's Over needs to go on trial for Grand Treason.

[Young And Alive]

Ganglord, without a shadow of a doubt. Yawn.

I see that (at the time of this writing) one person has voted for Lost. Who and why!? Lost is one of Morrissey's best ever songs, although I'd say I like Spencer's composition more than Moz's lyrics.

The fact that Lost was never released is so frustrating to me. It would have been a Top 10 hit for sure (something which Morrissey could only dream of at the time (1997)) and I also think it would have gained a lot more fans.

But 8 years on Moz certainly made up for it by releasing Redondo Beach/There Is A Light as a single. Not!

If there's one thing I'd change about our Moz it's his selection of singles.

[Corrissey]

I completely agree with HSIN, tho I voted Dear God, Please Help Me. I must be missing something with this song :confused: Just 'meh'... I always skip it. Give me Come Back to Camden anyday. Or Ganglord :guitar:

[vicarinatutugal]

I voted for Life Is A Pigsty.
I just don't get it, the music is flat and boring, the lyrics say absolutely nothing to me. I was so frustrated when it was chosen for the 'Get Moz in the charts' download thingy, and it just confounds me when I see so many people name it as their favourite song from Ringleader. :confused:

http://www.smileyhut.com/fighting/argue.gif (http://www.smileyhut.com)

Pigsty forever!

[Casagrande]

Whoever votes for I Know It's Over needs to go on trial for Grand Treason.

That's quite a statement, coming from someone who thinks This Charming Man is overrated.. :rolleyes:

[Kilt Uncle]

'You're the one for me, fatty' is pretty dull, though energetic enough live. Not a fav though.

and 'How soon is now' is a classic. All you detractors should go to your beds without any supper!

[the judge]

I voted for Everyday Is Like Sunday, I never liked it much, but my real choice is Now My Heart Is Full.

[Depeche609]

First Of The Gang To Die

Great song, but it took me awhile to really get into it. :)
I didn't understand how that was everyone's favorite song as soon as they put the cd in.
My first fave was the song BEFORE that one.

[Depeche609]

Whoever votes for I Know It's Over needs to go on trial for Grand Treason.

I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.
I'm so sad that it's even listed as an option!!!:mad:

[Depeche609]

I voted for Life Is A Pigsty.
I just don't get it, the music is flat and boring, the lyrics say absolutely nothing to me. I was so frustrated when it was chosen for the 'Get Moz in the charts' download thingy, and it just confounds me when I see so many people name it as their favourite song from Ringleader. :confused:

Alot of people agree with you.

I, on the other hand, can't get enough of that bassline...:o
It's a sad song, but it makes me want to shake my ass.

[Depeche609]

For people who missed earlier thread:

http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=65293

My choice is First of the Gang to die.

Thank you Kewpie. I'm happy that I'm not alone on this issue.:D

I thought I was going to get yelled at by everyone on this thread as soon as I placed my vote for "First of the Gang" because some people are really intense about that song for some reason.

[DAVID is my HERO]

That's quite a statement, coming from someone who thinks This Charming Man is overrated.. :rolleyes:


It is! You have to understand where I'm coming from. Yes it is a great song. But it really gets me when people say, "Oh, TCM is the GREATEST Smiths song ever. Along, with HSIN." And I've heard this unlessly.

There are far greater tracks. It doesn't peak with TCM. I'm just looking at it as a whole.

Just because it's overrated doesn't make it a bad song. There are no bad Morrissey songs.

Unless it's You Must Please Remember. hahahah!

[candide]

I wasn't aware The Never-Played Symphonies was so highly rated.

Also, I love Pigsty, bad lyrics or not.

[Amy]

Dear God, Please Help Me has to be the most overrated Morrissey song in decades.

[vicarinatutugal]

6 voted for maudlin st! :angry:

http://www.smileyhut.com/angry/fist.gif (http://www.smileyhut.com) should have been public votes!

[Please]

Heaven knows, i'm miserable now

Good song but not up there in my eyes

[Not Right in the Head]

"Ganglord" all the way. Yes, I've heard it a million times, and yes, I've heard it live. It still does nothing for me.

[Amy]

6 voted for maudlin st! :angry:

http://www.smileyhut.com/angry/fist.gif (http://www.smileyhut.com) should have been public votes!

:angry: :angry:

Show yourselves!. Maudlin St is a classic!

[DAVID is my HERO]

:angry: :angry:

Show yourselves!. Maudlin St is a classic!


i knoooow. :confused:

[Dave]

Life Is A Pigsty is excellent as is First Of The Gang To Die. Late Night, Maudlin Street is one of his best ever. I love Ganglord. The only song on the list I don't really care for is Never Played Symphonies. People that like it are ignorant and pathetic. :D

[oscillate wildly]

soo, who voted for There Is A Light That Never Goes out and Late Night, Maudlin Street (as others said)? haha this requires full explanation.

[troubleluvsme]

Never been a big fan of Ganglord.

[troubleluvsme]

Life Is A Pigsty is excellent as is First Of The Gang To Die. Late Night, Maudlin Street is one of his best ever. I love Ganglord. The only song on the list I don't really care for is Never Played Symphonies. People that like it are ignorant and pathetic. :D


Dave, how do you really feel about people who like Never Played Symphonies? :sweet:

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

Late Night, Boring Street

[bogdana]

my vote is for "The Youngest was the most loved". ugh.

[chrisarclark]

becos ifeel imust:

"Everyday Is Like Sunday"
-not overrated one bit- an absolute classic- but since it is one of those songs that everything is always compared back to, iwouldnt be surprised to see some finding it overrated (they would be wrong, but iwouldnt be surprised).

"First Of The Gang To Die"
-overrated, especially the studio version with the tacky sample- how this is the song that spurred on the massive commercial comeback is beyond me- it's alright, but certainly not great.

"Ganglord"
-overrated and juste plain silly- all the people over the moon for this song really hav no taste or sense of what has made Morrissey great.

"How Soon Is Now?"
-a great song, but probably overrated, and then unjustly underrated by those who are simply sick of how overrated it is- it's a vicious circle.

"I Know It's Over"
-not really overrated other than by those who absolutely obsess over the song, of which there are many- still an absolute classic

"Jack The Ripper"
-slightly overrated- a great track, but its not so over and above as many make it out to be

"Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me"
-not overrated at all until someone like David Bowie or Johnny Marr call it the best thing The Smiths did- then it becomes a little overrated, depsite being absolutely brilliant

"Late Night, Maudlin Street"
-slightly overrated- many would put it alongside EILS and "Suedehead" during the VH era, and really it doesnt come close- good song though.

"Life Is A Pigsty"
-vastly overrated- how people can ignore the absolutely dire lyrics in this song is unbelievable.

"Lost"
-overrated by those who think it was robbed of being a top10 single- its not a top10 single, it would not hav saved Maladjusted (dropping "He Cried", "Papa Jack" and "Sorrow Will Come In The End" would hav)- it's juste a good song.

"The Never-Played Symphonies"
-when it first came out, no one could shut up about how great a song it was, how it shouldve been on the album, how it was one of the greatest songs he'd done in a decade- it's juste a good b-side.

"Nobody Loves Us"
-another b-side like "Lost" and TNPS that has become so overrated for having been a b-side- it's a good song, a great song even, but it's not one of his very best as so many make it out to be- it's not so much better (or better at all) than much of SG.

"Suedehead"
-same as EILS, not at all overrated, but due to it always be cited as one of the very best songs he's written and having been the first solo single, ican see some people coming out to say it's overrated (again, they would be wrong).

"There Is A Light That Never Goes Out"
-an absolutely brilliant song, but often made out to be the greatest song ever written despite the fact that it's not necessarily the best song on the album- hard to say it's overrated, but it's like when people call The Smiths overrated, you know?

[Dave]

Dave, how do you really feel about people who like Never Played Symphonies? :sweet:

I know, I was just trying to cause controversy. I do think it's one of the weakest tracks though. He was releasing so many songs around that time and I like most of them, but I didn't like NPS or Friday Mourning.

[celibate]

november spawned a monster

[he played it live too much that I can't stand the song anymore]

the song is too long, only the last verse is good

the screaming of Margareth O Mara and Morrissey's ohwoh is getting
on yer nerves if yer a long time fan

it aint bad, but its definately overrated, cause Morrissey claimed ones
that this was his most imortant/best song he recorded, oh my, I'd like
to hear his opinion about it now:doh:

[Buzzetta]

Overrated?

Trouble Loves Me - (Hate that song)
Dear God Please Help Me - (Basically Trouble Loves Me Part II)
Jack the Ripper (Get over it already - Morrissey throwing himself into the P.O.V. of a serial killer does not make it the greatest song ever.)

These songs are usually skipped on my iPod....

[nugz]

Overrated?

Trouble Loves Me - (Hate that song)
Dear God Please Help Me - (Basically Trouble Loves Me Part II)
Jack the Ripper (Get over it already - Morrissey throwing himself into the P.O.V. of a serial killer does not make it the greatest song ever.)

These songs are usually skipped on my iPod....

agree with the first two. disagree with the 3rd!!! :mad:

[dzhemini]

I voted First Of The Gang To Die

These songs are also overrated IMO:
Irish Blood English Heart
Ganglord
Lost
Everyday Is Like Sunday (great song but not THE BEST EVER :rolleyes:)
+ many Smiths songs..

and Pigsty is very UNDERrated. :mad:

[nugz]

and Pigsty is very UNDERrated. :mad:

no way dude. how can you say that. people are always raving about it and saying its the best on ROTT.... :rolleyes:


(which it's not btw. that would be I will never be anybody's hero now. kthxbai.

[imogen11]

Late Night, Boring Street

You take that back RIGHT NOOWW!! :eek: ;)

[chrisarclark]

Jack the Ripper (Get over it already - Morrissey throwing himself into the P.O.V. of a serial killer does not make it the greatest song ever.)

exactly- really cool track, but not all it's made out to be, especially the live version which is not vastly (or at all) superior to the studio version. it's annoying how it is always the live version that shows up on compilations.

[chrisarclark]

and Pigsty is very UNDERrated. :mad:

that would be impossible.

[vicarinatutugal]

Late Night, Boring Street

hmmm you get a little credit for outing yourself even though your talking rubbish.. :p

You take that back RIGHT NOOWW!! :eek: ;)
well at least they admitted it unlike the rest of the creeps that are hiding behind the anon voting! :p

[hatfull]

what is the most overrated song in Moz's catalogue, overrated either by the masses, critics or (more likely) "hardcore" fans?

if you choose "other", please indicate what song yuve chosen with a post.

and before people start getting their back up, there's only one or two songs that iwould truly criticize, "Ganglord" and "Life Is A Pigsty".
Life is a Pigsty. Fucking awful. Boring, whiny, 3 minutes too sodding long, just horrific. I intend to make that song my toilet break song at the Roundhouse, he'll still only be halfway through by the time I get back

[mcrickson]

hmm...personally i've heard IBEH too many times...

the same with FOTG..

and let it be known that i stand up for those who enjoy 'Pigsty.'
some songs have to be longer...
>nuffsaid<

[hatfull]

also, i can't wait for my husband to see this list :D it'll take him an hour to work out which song he hates most out of that list (unless people are allowed several votes!)

[vicarinatutugal]

Life is a Pigsty. Fucking awful. Boring, whiny, 3 minutes too sodding long, just horrific. I intend to make that song my toilet break song at the Roundhouse, he'll still only be halfway through by the time I get back

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and let it be known that i stand up for those who enjoy 'Pigsty.'
some songs have to be longer...
>nuffsaid<

http://www.freewebby.com/sign-smilies/respect.gif

also, i can't wait for my husband to see this list :D it'll take him an hour to work out which song he hates most out of that list (unless people are allowed several votes!)

:p I can hardly wait! http://www.freewebby.com/sign-smilies/bs2.gif

[Radio Berlin]

It has to be HSIN?
I can't believe that some people voted for Late night, maudlin street :mad:

[HIM]

why is his entire back catalogue not listed?

he's only a pop star.

[Ben Budd]

why is his entire back catalogue not listed?

he's only a pop star.

Whatever your favourite Morrissey song is, THAT'S the most overrated Morrissey song.

[HIM]

Whatever your favourite Morrissey song is, THAT'S the most overrated Morrissey song.

that doesn't make any sense.

[hatfull]

why is his entire back catalogue not listed?

he's only a pop star.
best husband!

[HIM]

Whatever your favourite Morrissey song is, THAT'S the most overrated Morrissey song.


that doesn't make any sense.

although, after further reflection, can i opt for 'life is a pigsty' as my favourite? it's really poetic and, musically, it's sooooooooooo inventive. overall, i think it demonstrates that moz is still great.

[vicarinatutugal]

although, after further reflection, can i opt for 'life is a pigsty' as my favourite? it's really poetic and, musically, it's sooooooooooo inventive. overall, i think it demonstrates that moz is still great.

http://www.freewebby.com/sign-smilies/omg.gif

[hatfull]

http://www.freewebby.com/sign-smilies/omg.gif
hee hee! Something tells me he might change his mind again ;)

[HIM]

http://www.freewebby.com/sign-smilies/omg.gif

hallo vicarinatutugal. did you just feel a kind of 'wooshing' feeling against your hair? (see above) :p:p:p:p:p:p:p

[Ben Budd]

although, after further reflection, can i opt for 'life is a pigsty' as my favourite? it's really poetic and, musically, it's sooooooooooo inventive. overall, i think it demonstrates that moz is still great.

Good answer.

[vicarinatutugal]

hallo vicarinatutugal. did you just feel a kind of 'wooshing' feeling against your hair? (see above) :p:p:p:p

yes I felt something! I was going to put this little http://www.3rdgen.org/bb/images/smilies/liar.gif next to your pigsty comment but then i thought you would be all, ooo see you hate it and you know I am right... :p :rolleyes:

[Chartres]

There's A Light That Never Goes Out, sure it's beautiful and good in almost every way but it isn't the best he's done, it's not that great, it can't beat the whole Smiths catalogue with it's left hand.

:guitar:

[M-in-Oz]

It was a choice between There is A Light, Lost and The Never Played...I went with voting for Lost - 'cos I don't think its all that great (barely memorable). I never listen to There Is A light anymore (but I guess its still good)

[mar2d2]

"Ganglord" is winning?? i don't even know which one that is!

Suedehead = a song sunged by a bipolar person (SORRYYYY!!/WHY DO YOU COME HERE???) that had a really bad hiccups

[mick ransommich]

"Ganglord" is winning?? i don't even know which one that is!

Suedehead = a song sunged by a bipolar person (SORRYYYY!!/WHY DO YOU COME HERE???) that had a really bad hiccups

lol - no - Ganglord is 'losing'...... :o

[imogen11]

I selected 'other' for Come Back to Camden.
Yes, you have read it correctly.
Some beautiful lyrics but those synth strings MAKE ME WANT TO DRILL HOLES IN MY HEAD.

Diabolical.


:sick:

[jossu]

I picked I Know It's Over because, although I adore some of the lyrics and like the song very much as a whole, it has never done anything special to me. To most people it seems to be THE song but not for me...:rolleyes:

[imogen11]

I picked I Know It's Over because, although I adore some of the lyrics and like the song very much as a whole, it has never done anything special to me. To most people it seems to be THE song but not for me...:rolleyes:

..I am now drilling holes in my head.


:p

[jossu]

..I am now drilling holes in my head.


:p

:p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEWgs6YQR9A
I know, it's really weird and not even that funny but then on the other hand...:D Life is so much more fun when you're overtired and don't even know what your doing, as this post indicates.

[TLOTFamousIP]

I chose Maudlin Street. It's never done anything for me, the tune is just too unmemorable.

[Paulc]

I think this poll and houdini's daily top 100 polls have shown us that every song he has ever penned sparks some debate. Almost every single song will have diehard fans and many of the same songs will have fierce detractors.

Its quite remarkable really - do you think there is any other artist with such a wide range of songs, covering so many musical styles and with lyrics discussing almost every topic imaginable? Theres bound to be people for and against everything.

For me i cannot understand anyone who thinks November spawned a monster, Life is a pigsty, Jack the ripper, I know its over, There is a light... and, god forbid, Last Night i dreamt....... as being overrated - i really think you must be mad to cite any of these masterpieces but it clearly happens! I am not a huge fan of the maladjusted and southpaw years but i know there are people on here who would die defending those tracks.

Theres nowt as strange as folk...;)

[TLOTFamousIP]

I think this poll and houdini's daily top 100 polls have shown us that every song he has ever penned sparks some debate. Almost every single song will have diehard fans and many of the same songs will have fierce detractors.

Its quite remarkable really - do you think there is any other artist with such a wide range of songs, covering so many musical styles and with lyrics discussing almost every topic imaginable? Theres bound to be people for and against everything.

For me i cannot understand anyone who thinks November spawned a monster, Life is a pigsty, Jack the ripper, I know its over, There is a light... and, god forbid, Last Night i dreamt....... as being overrated - i really think you must be mad to cite any of these masterpieces but it clearly happens! I am not a huge fan of the maladjusted and southpaw years but i know there are people on here who would die defending those tracks.

Theres nowt as strange as folk...;)

I find it strange how many people come on here and seem to have little (if any) good to say about his back catalogue. Everyone's entitled to dislike whatever they choose but I just find it puzzling as to why someone would spend their time on a website dedicated to someone who they don't even appear to like that much. :confused: Still, takes all sorts...

[mcrickson]

I selected 'other' for Come Back to Camden.
Yes, you have read it correctly.
Some beautiful lyrics but those synth strings MAKE ME WANT TO DRILL HOLES IN MY HEAD.

Diabolical.


:sick:

ha, then you might not want to take a listen to MY original music; in my opinion synth strings are the affordable way to make the most professional sound. i liked very well "camden" and very much impressed by mikey farrell's work...

[Ben Budd]

Michael V. Farrell had nothing to do with 'Come Back To Camden'...:confused:

[mcrickson]

i know he had nothing to do with it; i was referring to the recent resurgence of synth strings in moz's music, which encompasses YATQ, ROTT, and the tours of each, which correct me if i'm wrong farrell was picked up for the YATQ tour.

i was aware he didn't do YATQ; but while we're on the subject, who DID the keys for that? anyone specific or a studio-player?

[CrystalGeezer]

I also hate synth strings which makes me hesitant to LOVE The Teachers Are Afraid of the Pupils, which I absolutely want to love but SYNTH STRINGS? Blech.

[CrystalGeezer]

WAITAMINUTE. Okay, perhaps they are real strings and I just stuck my ignorant musical foot in my mouth, but at least I had the dignity not to delete my post. But still, in the beginning, don't the strings sound sort of synthy?

[CrystalGeezer]

I listened to it again and clearly the strings are real. Which means it's official, TTAAOTP is one of my favorites. Now please continue with your discussion I so rudely interrupted. Sorry.

[nightandday]

I love most of the songs from the list, and some of them can IMO never be overrated - I Know It's Over, Last Night I Dreamt..., There Is A Light, Jack The Ripper...

Ganglord is definitely the weakest song on the list, and I don't get some people's obsession with Lost and The Never-Played Symphonies, but I never had the impresssion they were that highly rated anywhere except on Moz Solo.

I voted for First Of The Gang To Die, because I've heard it some 1000 times on radio and in clubs, more than any other Moz song ever, and while it's a good song, it never was one of my absolute favourites, so after the first 100 times I got a bit fed up with it... :rolleyes:

On second thought, I should have voted "other", because Morrissey's most overrated song ever must be "You Have Killed Me". I never even liked it, and I've heard this one played, well, not as many times as FOTGTD, but very often as well...and is a worse song than FOTGTD.

[nightandday]

It is! You have to understand where I'm coming from. Yes it is a great song. But it really gets me when people say, "Oh, TCM is the GREATEST Smiths song ever. Along, with HSIN." And I've heard this unlessly.

There are far greater tracks. It doesn't peak with TCM. I'm just looking at it as a whole.

Just because it's overrated doesn't make it a bad song. There are no bad Morrissey songs.

Unless it's You Must Please Remember. hahahah!

I love You Must Please Remember! :(

[DAVID is my HERO]

I chose Maudlin Street. It's never done anything for me, the tune is just too unmemorable.


I picked I Know It's Over because, although I adore some of the lyrics and like the song very much as a whole, it has never done anything special to me. To most people it seems to be THE song but not for me...:rolleyes:

I'm sorry. But if these songs don't do anything for you guys then I'm wondering if you even grasp the idea that Morrissey has been trying to convey.

And i'm not saying this because I "LOVE, LOVE, LOVE" these songs like that, but it's true. It's Morrissey pouring out his heart. These songs can be liked unconditionally by the whole world and STILL not be overrated. Given that we understand Morrissey and his perspectives of life.

[raincoated lover]

I vote FOTGTD.
It's just so boring.
Maybe because it's been played to death.
HSIN is quite monotonous, but I think that adds to it's appeal - I have fond memories of the song.
How can people say that I Know It's Over and Now My Heart Is Full are overrated! Surely the latter is underrated!

[Vauxhall95]

I completely agree with HSIN, tho I voted Dear God, Please Help Me. I must be missing something with this song :confused: Just 'meh'... I always skip it. Give me Come Back to Camden anyday. Or Ganglord :guitar:

You just made me run off to listen to Dear God, Please Help me - I love that song.

I do not understand the messianic fervor that surround "Lost" and "The Never Played Symphonies." Both are good songs, but people go bonkers over both.

[TLOTFamousIP]

I'm sorry. But if these songs don't do anything for you guys then I'm wondering if you even grasp the idea that Morrissey has been trying to convey.

And i'm not saying this because I "LOVE, LOVE, LOVE" these songs like that, but it's true. It's Morrissey pouring out his heart. These songs can be liked unconditionally by the whole world and STILL not be overrated. Given that we understand Morrissey and his perspectives of life.

I think the two hundred plus Morrissey/Smiths songs that I listen to on a loop everyday have got the point across.

If you read it correctly, you'll notice it was the tune rather the lyrics that I've never connected with in a major way. That's not to say I don't like the song, just because something's overrated doesn't necessarily mean it's bad.

[mcrickson]

I listened to it again and clearly the strings are real. Which means it's official, TTAAOTP is one of my favorites. Now please continue with your discussion I so rudely interrupted. Sorry.

Well the main string part in TTAAOTP is from shoshkovich's (sp?) 5th, but some of the string parts toward the end of the song are not, so i'm assuming these actually are SYNTH additions to the song. (sorry to break that to you). likewise, it seems we rank among the very few who find TTAAOTP one of the more dominant moz songs. i could die happily if he played it live again with boz and the boys...

[leedoggpimp]

bengali in platforms

[DAVID is my HERO]

I think the two hundred plus Morrissey/Smiths songs that I listen to on a loop everyday have got the point across.

If you read it correctly, you'll notice it was the tune rather the lyrics that I've never connected with in a major way. That's not to say I don't like the song, just because something's overrated doesn't necessarily mean it's bad.

True.