Tell me all about...Morrisseys sexuality

[dom]

Hey all

I have heard Morrissey reference himself as being neither homsexual not hetrosexual, rather as being 'A Sexual'

What do we think? Is it all a show? or will we never know. My guess is that it's the second, but there's nothing wrong in discussing is there?

Please everyone, I know we love Morrissey for who he is, so no need to go overprotective of him here, this is just a harmless discussion and analysis of a legend who we all love for himself, no matter what.

Thanks all

Dom

[EPbabe]

Hey all

I have heard Morrissey reference himself as being neither homsexual not hetrosexual, rather as being 'A Sexual'

What do we think? Is it all a show? or will we never know. My guess is that it's the second, but there's nothing wrong in discussing is there?

Please everyone, I know we love Morrissey for who he is, so no need to go overprotective of him here, this is just a harmless discussion and analysis of a legend who we all love for himself, no matter what.

Thanks all

Dom

Dear Dom, this is something most of us are interested in and have discussed in details. Try to search other threads which have dealt with it, if you don't do it, moderators will. ;) And don't be surprised if long-time members ask you to drop this topic. It's nothing personal.

All the best and have fun!
EPbabe

[*EqualOpportunityHater*]

^^^

Yes, lets!!! :rolleyes::p

I don't blame him for not having sex for a long time when younger, if I looked as hot as he did, I would never leave my room (if you all know what I mean) ;)

[the judge]

He said he has slept both with men and women

Kewpie will soon provide the links for the other 53 topics about the man's sexuality.

[dom]

Dear Dom, this is something most of us are interested in and have discussed in details. Try to search other threads which have dealt with it, if you don't do it, moderators will. ;) And don't be surprised if long-time members ask you to drop this topic. It's nothing personal.

All the best and have fun!
EPbabe

Okay, i know. Thank you for your kindness in all this. I will however start a thread regarding the transfer of threads (unless someone else has already done so, in which case the irony would be unbearable) just to see if i am being a bit of an arse wipe with my irritation or not. I am happy ot eat humble pie if people give it to me :-)

[the judge]

mr hater I love your signature and your avatar. :) cheers

[BillyBudd]

Morrissey is gay, though not "openly" so.

[EPbabe]

Okay, i know. Thank you for your kindness in all this. I will however start a thread regarding the transfer of threads (unless someone else has already done so, in which case the irony would be unbearable) just to see if i am being a bit of an arse wipe with my irritation or not. I am happy ot eat humble pie if people give it to me :-)

You really shouldn't be irritated though I know that it must be very annoying. It is, even for senior members, sometimes. :rolleyes: Try not to take it personally, because it really isn't (or at least I hope it isn't). :) Maybe a solution is if you look up older threads and start using them again, to restart the discussion. Or not. Oh well whatever, just ignore me babbling. :o It's a free world, you can post whatever you want. ;)

[vicarinatutugal]

You really shouldn't be irritated though I know that it must be very annoying. It is, even for senior members, sometimes. :rolleyes: Try not to take it personally, because it really isn't (or at least I hope it isn't). :) Maybe a solution is if you look up older threads and start using them again, to restart the discussion. Or not. Oh well whatever, just ignore me babbling. :o It's a free world, you can post whatever you want. ;)

The other thing is, and it is always nice to have new people here, things like tell me about Morrissey's sexuality will get you a bit of a slagging. Mostly people say let him have his own business and its been discussed to death so when threads like that pop up you would hear a collective sigh of oh no, not another one!
I am sure you can understand that Dom.

[EPbabe]

Dear Dom, this is something most of us are interested in and have discussed in details. Try to search other threads which have dealt with it, if you don't do it, moderators will. ;) And don't be surprised if long-time members ask you to drop this topic. It's nothing personal.

All the best and have fun!
EPbabe


The other thing is, and it is always nice to have new people here, things like tell me about Morrissey's sexuality will get you a bit of a slagging. Mostly people say let him have his own business and its been discussed to death so when threads like that pop up you would hear a collective sigh of oh no, not another one!
I am sure you can understand that Dom.


This is exactly what I was referring to in my first post. ;)

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

This one again? It's really too early for popcorn... maybe I'll just come back later to watch the show.

The answer, if you're curious: If it were your business, you would already know.

[vicarinatutugal]

anyway, is morrissey gay?

does anybody here, know?

It had to be you... :p

[HIM]

It had to be you... :p

yes.

how did you sleep, vicarinatutugal?

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

i don't think that that's true.

do you think he's gay?

I think that if he wanted people to know, he would tell them. I think he has-- already told the truth.

[vicarinatutugal]

yes.

how did you sleep, vicarinatutugal?

Oh only got 3 hours HIM I had a funeral to attend, which went as well as these things go. I also have a wedding reception to attend tonight, which I hope will be good. :D I might doze off with lack off sleep though. :rolleyes:

[the judge]

i don't think that that's true.

do you think he's gay?

I think he's bisexual but with a slight preference for men. ;)
Don't forget the transexual quote. :D
But no one ever listens to me about this topic.

[the judge]

I think that if he wanted people to know, he would tell them. I think he has-- already told the truth.
I agree entirely. But no one seems to care. He said that more than once. But people like speculating and want him their way, some gay, some straight, some neither.

[Not Right in the Head]

people aren't interested, though, in whether he wants them to know. i just want to know if he takes it up the wrong 'un. what do you think?

You went there! :guitar:

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

people aren't interested, though, in whether he wants them to know. i just want to know if he takes it up the wrong 'un. what do you think?

Don't be vulgar. It's all just skin. What difference does it make?

[the judge]

now, would he give johnny marr one?



(good judgement of 'yes, i am blind', by the way.)
Thank you.

your question, of course he would, especially in the old days, he's just too shy.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

i'm fanatical about all-things-steve. what do you think? is he?

Really? Do you really want to know what I think? Why?

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

it's okay now; the judge has clarified everything.

Thank god, now we can all get back to work. These articles aren't going to write themselves.

[Not Right in the Head]

Thank god, now we can all get back to "work." These articles aren't going to write themselves.

FTFY.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

FTFY.

It is work. I get paid to write this crap. Not this crap, different crap. The crap that's in the other window that's open on my screen. No, not that one, either, the other other one. There? See?

[Hellie]

I have stated that I think he`s not gay simply because its wishful thinking.

But i do believe he is bisexual.But he is a celibate bisexual(as far as anyone can know)...just like the lovely Stephen Fry.

I think the whole business bores him.It bores me.I could happily live like a nun till I shuffle of this mortal coil.:)

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I think the whole business bores him.It bores me.I could happily live like a nun till I shuffle of this mortal coil.:)

Maybe you are not doing it right. It's definitely not boring, it's actually dealing with the people involved, before and after, that's boring.

[*EqualOpportunityHater*]

mr hater I love your signature and your avatar. :) cheers

EOH loves your avi as well... Travis Bickle <333

Here's the big verison

http://a215.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/18/l_4c12bfad796c4a30f21f98d4c6432ee6.jpg

[sistasheila]

Hey all
I have heard Morrissey reference himself as being neither homsexual not hetrosexual, rather as being 'A Sexual'
What do we think?
Dom




one a few frank comments he make about this sexuality directly in INTERVIEWS without tiptoeing the issue : stating that HE is attracted to both sexes

are these:
the first one was from 92
the other sometime in the late 80ties
AND one mention in a letter
guys
there is more than gay or straight there is still enough inbeetween these..ever heard of this thing called bisexuality anyone?taaadahh


OBSERVER 92
---The abundance of homo-erotic imagery in his lyrics and album covers (Your Arsenal, for example, shows him brandishing a microphone in a highly suggestive manner) should not, he says, be taken as a veiled declaration of homosexuality. 'I'm not running ahead and leaving clues hidden behind bus stops, as it were,' he says. 'One of my physical encounters was with a man. That was 10 years ago. It was just a very brief, absurd and amusing moment,' adds Morrissey, in his best Oscar Wilde. 'It wasn't love. I have never experienced that.'

Has he slept with women? 'Yes. I feel completely open. If I met somebody tomorrow, male or female, and they loved me and I loved them, I would openly proclaim that I loved them, regardless of what they were. I think people should be loved whatever their gender, whatever their age. I am open to everything. I accept that my experience is different from that of most men. But I feel reasonably normal. I don't feel like a freak. My world is bigger. I never lived in a small town with small morals. I don't want to take drugs. I don't, so far as I am aware, want to take part in activities such as group sex. I'm actually a reasonably conservative, boring person.' ---



2nd one exact date unknown (did copy it in from wordprog)
---- What about sexual... relationships?
"I don't have relationships at all. It's out of the question."
Why?
"Partly because I was always attracted to men or women who were never attracted to me. And I was never attracted to women or men who were attracted to me. So that's the problem. I've never met the right person." ----

EDIT
interviews post 87 in www.motorcycleaupairboy.com which were the interviews stem i quote
from he also talked a lot about " his preferences and personal life" in interviews in the french mag l"es inrocktibles" (SIC) between 87-´95 (esp the 95 one which is very personal) he was he was way more open with the french journos as with british journos these arent fully transfered into english i saw some tranlsation in a fanzine mag but they let out a few interesting lines which pop up in a book on moz i recently read
like mine in my post THE FIRST ONE is from 92
http://www.motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1992/observer.htm
the other is one from nick kent
it did copy the kent article in the windowsworld programme without a time and date so i dont know the exact date the / date but it must be in the late 80 ties




from the ROBERT MACKIE letters (pen pal ca 80/81)
---Will you send me some pornography? Do you HAVE a girlfriend? Do you LIKE girls? I have a girlfriend called Annalisa. We're both bisexual. Real hip, huh? I hate sex. ---





member COMTESSE `s comment from http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/sho...ght=gay&page=5
--- I think that sexuality is a spectrum and that at one extreme are people who are exclusively homosexual and at the other are people who are exclusively heterosexual. Those people are in the extreme minority. Most people fall somewhere in between and, given the right situation and the right person, are capable of falling in love with someone of the same sex or the opposite sex.

I think Morrissey is bisexual on the homosexual side of the spectrum. He has always been extremely open and honest about his sexuality and the fact that he has been attracted to both men and women in his life. He has openly discussed going to gay bars and having been in love with a girl during his teenage years. I believe that he was in love with both Linder and Johnny Marr. I also believe that he and Jake were a couple, and that their breakup was one of the primary reasons that he left England and went into the "dark period" after Vauxhall and I.

I don't really think there's any mystery at all about Morrissey's sexuality - he has laid it all out in the open for us. However, lots of people in the gay community have a problem with bisexuality and, it's true, many people resent him because he won't "come out". But he'll never "come out" because he already IS out - as a sensitive bisexual man with a history of heartbreak and bad sexual experiences who chose to abstain for many years rather than risk further pain - and always has been, from "Hand In Glove" through "At Last I Am Born"... and onwards.

But... having said all that, I do ththank goodness for that. It's one of the most enjoyable aspects of his celebrity.---ink that you'd have to be blind not to see that gay culture has played an enormously important role in Morrissey's iconography and that the gay "experience" is one of his primary lyrical themes. Obviously, some of those themes are universal to anyone who feels like an outsider - that's why we all love him so. But there's a reason why such gay/bisexual icons as James Dean and Oscar Wilde are featured on his backdrop, or why t-shirts were printed with WIDE TO RECEIVE along the bum, or why that image of Robert Wagner suggestively jumping up behind Jeffrey Hunter was used as a t-shirt image and backdrop or why Spencer Cobrin licked that ice cream cone suggestively in the "We Hate It..." video. Morrissey loves to celebrate homoerotica - and Morrissey loves to celebrate homoerotica - and thank goodness for that. It's one of the most enjoyable aspects of his celebrity.---

[Hellie]

Maybe you are not doing it right. It's definitely not boring, it's actually dealing with the people involved, before and after, that's boring.


Yes this is very insightful.....;)its actually having to converse with them,cook for them,clean etc and worse listen to the grunty noises they make in their sleep and not to mention smells.

No give me a big bed all to myself,a few dvds,and chocolate.1)you don`t have any trouble walking the next day:oand 2)you save yourself all the grief and hassle.:D

[meat_is_murder19]

Why does it matter if morrissey is gay if he was would you stop buying his music going to his shows its the music we like him for.I never get the whole sexuality hang up thing.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Yes this is very insightful.....;)its actually having to converse with them,cook for them,clean etc and worse listen to the grunty noises they make in their sleep and not to mention smells.

No give me a big bed all to myself,a few dvds,and chocolate.1)you don`t have any trouble walking the next day:oand 2)you save yourself all the grief and hassle.:D

Give me a guy who will leave after we're done, and the big bed with the DVDs and the chocolates. I might let him stay for the movie if he's not a loud breather or anything. :D

[Not Right in the Head]

I don't think HIM has done Morrissey up the gary glitter, if he has, then he aren't telling me!

Do you two normally tell each other these things?

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

you are a true romantic:p

Not anymore.


what is a 'loud breather'?

Someone who breathes loudly, or nose whistles, or anything I find annoying. If he can sit still and watch the movie without annoying me, he can stay. I will stop the movie to make him leave if I can't concentrate because he's bugging me, I will not put up with distractions.

Note: this is all wishful thinking, because I am currently married, but a girl can dream of a peaceful life, can't she?

[dom]

Why does it matter if morrissey is gay if he was would you stop buying his music going to his shows its the music we like him for.I never get the whole sexuality hang up thing.

I said at the start we can all love mOrrissey for who he is, but there is nothing wrong with questioning it. So no, it doesnt matter...but let the conversation and speculation continue i say...it's only out of ADMIRATION for him that i am interseted and want to know, not cos i wouldnt buy his records otherwise.

[Arsenal]

There have been numerous quotes and 'he said in a interview' statements in this topic, but would those people mind posting the links to original interviews? I would just be interested in reading them in full for myself, and they would be nice to have. :)

[vicarinatutugal]

There have been numerous quotes and 'he said in a interview' statements in this topic, but would those people mind posting the links to original interviews? I would just be interested in reading them in full for myself, and they would be nice to have. :)

http://foreverill.com/interviews/index.html

knock yourself out, loads there.

[dom]

HURRAY. My first ever thread to be eventually labelled OFF TOPIC!

It's a bit like being told to shut up and get out the room to finish a conversation. Hmm

Tell me. Anyone fond of a bit of chocolate in their cereal? I personaly like plain chocolate and fudge in it. On a healthier minded day i may slice some banana into it (without the chocolate...mind you, maybe i should try it with both, what do people think?)

[Depeche609]

Hey all

I have heard Morrissey reference himself as being neither homsexual not hetrosexual, rather as being 'A Sexual'

What do we think? Is it all a show? or will we never know. My guess is that it's the second, but there's nothing wrong in discussing is there?

Please everyone, I know we love Morrissey for who he is, so no need to go overprotective of him here, this is just a harmless discussion and analysis of a legend who we all love for himself, no matter what.

Thanks all

Dom


*New Kristeen Young Lyrics* (thanks to UncleSkinny)

He's Sickened By My Crude Emotion

Oh-Oh-Oh Let me send this note to you. Oh-Oh-Oh Then, you send one back to me.
Oh-Oh-Oh St. Louis sits on my lips. Oh-Oh-Oh But, my keyboard shoots from the hip.

I open with piercing pitch.
My next trick's Twist and Twitch.
Spill my guts in 5 minutes,
I'm fond of a flashy finish
So, I take you in my mouth, and throw you about to get a rise out.

He yawns. He sighs.
He's sickened by my crude emotion.

Oh-Oh-Oh. Now he sends this note to me. Oh-Oh-Oh So I send one back to him.
Oh-Oh-Oh Stomping ground can box your ears. Oh-Oh-Oh But, a note floats in the air.

He implies. He refrains.
He plays kiss-SLAP with a phrase.
His small talk's a Work of Art.
Those Brit boys love their discourse.
Me? I just want to scream, OH, I LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU!!

He yawns. He sighs.
He’s seen it all like crude emotion.
He laughs. He hides.
He takes my heart, my crude emotion

[HIM]

Why does it matter if morrissey is gay if he was would you stop buying his music going to his shows

i think i'd probably not be as keen on him if he was a proper woofty.

[dom]

i think i'd probably not be as keen on him if he was a proper woofty.

LOL! You nob. I like you, even though you tend to make silly little comments :-p

[Kewpie]

i think i'd probably not be as keen on him if he was a proper woofty.


HIM, go home and get changed, off to Yorkshire Grey at once!
cornelius will be pissed if you don't turn up on time. :p

[vicarinatutugal]

i think i'd probably not be as keen on him if he was a proper woofty.

http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/gallery/data/media/24/mozbelly.jpg
proper or pretend?

[HIM]

HIM, go home and get changed, off to Yorkshire Grey at once!
cornelius will be pissed if you don't turn up on time. :p

kewpie, are you drunk?

[dom]

kewpie, are you drunk?

I don't thinking so, it's brilliant obviuos the only way upward is obviously just going to york. Under my bread and butter i think. Go away okay! That's what Yorkshire is mean. yea, It's just frigin great.and. i love mmmm. hang on :sick: bluur

[Kewpie]

kewpie, are you drunk?

Nope, you have to live million years to see me drunk! :D

Address of Yorkshire Grey is Theobald Road, WC1 corner of Grey's Inn Road.
Have a good time!

[HIM]

Nope, you have to live million years to see me drunk! :D

Address of Yorkshire Grey is Theobald Road, WC1 corner of Grey's Inn Road.
Have a good time!

i'll be at home looking after my best wife, tonight, kewpie.


http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/gallery/data/media/24/mozbelly.jpg
proper or pretend?

i think they knew someone was gonna take a picture, there.

[Kewpie]

i'll be at home looking after my best wife, tonight, kewpie..

Silly me, you, hattie and conelius are meeting up on 26th. :p





i think they knew someone was gonna take a picture, there.

Yes, who do you think took the photo? :D

[hatfull]

i'll be at home looking after my best wife, tonight, kewpie.



i think they knew someone was gonna take a picture, there.
yes. I need feeding 'n' stuff, and I'm ill :tears:

[Kewpie]

yes. I need feeding 'n' stuff, and I'm ill :tears:


Poor you...your loving husband will take care of all the housework over the weekend. :D

You'll be well looked after. :)

[Not Right in the Head]

HURRAY. My first ever thread to be eventually labelled OFF TOPIC!

It's a bit like being told to shut up and get out the room to finish a conversation.

No, Off Topic is where the fun happens. I didn't believe it myself for a long time, but this is where the shit really flies here.

[Corrissey]

Everyone knows Morrissey is happy :)

[Not Right in the Head]

Everyone knows Morrissey is happy :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2234/2181514523_49de32eee8_o.jpg

Heh. It says "package."

[HIM]

Everyone knows Morrissey is happy :)

that'll explain the shite songs of recent years, then

[Corrissey]

that'll explain the shite songs of recent years, then

uh huh :rolleyes:

[dom]

No, Off Topic is where the fun happens. I didn't believe it myself for a long time, but this is where the shit really flies here.

Lol. Cool cool. Let the shit fly then, he he :-)

[HIM]

uh huh :rolleyes:

are you saying it's more complex than that? :confused:

[vicarinatutugal]

i'll be at home looking after my best wife, tonight, kewpie.



i think they knew someone was gonna take a picture, there.

hmmm pretend then!:tears:

[hatfull]

are you saying it's more complex than that? :confused:
*whimpers softly as head explodes* :tears:

[Corrissey]

are you saying it's more complex than that? :confused:

no, I was agreeing with you. Tho he is a complex creature...

his recent songs aren't all shit... just different...I guess I prefer depressing Morrissey. The non-gay Moz, if you will ;)

[HIM]

hmmm pretend then!:tears:

he was right, then: women really do only like him for his mind?

[stephk817]

he was right, then: women really do only like him for his mind?

That is his most appealing feature but hell that mind is wrapped up in some pretty hot packaging. ;)

[nogodsnomasters85]

Whats' the big mystery? He's obviously a gay man, who, for whatever reason, isn't an extremely sexually active person, at least not in the traditional sense. I would've thought that was apparent.

[dom]

Whats' the big mystery? He's obviously a gay man, who, for whatever reason, isn't an extremely sexually active person, at least not in the traditional sense. I would've thought that was apparent.

Maybe for some, but for others like me who have only been following him the past year, not so apparent. Plus, his sexuality is debatable, nothing is OBVIOUS with Morrissey :)

[nogodsnomasters85]

Maybe for some, but for others like me who have only been following him the past year, not so apparent. Plus, his sexuality is debatable, nothing is OBVIOUS with Morrissey :)

It's only debatable if you haven't been into him for very long. Listen to all his albums, Smiths and Solo, read the lyrics, read Morrissey and Marr, (Scandal and Passion and Saint Morrissey would probably be good supplemental material)...... And you will come to the inevitable conclusion Morrissey is gay. There is simply no other way to see it.

[Depeche609]

Whats' the big mystery? He's obviously a gay man, who, for whatever reason, isn't an extremely sexually active person, at least not in the traditional sense. I would've thought that was apparent.

Well said...
This should be a mandatory read that people need to read and click a box to confirm that they read it before registering for a name on the bulletin board :)

[Dave]

Maybe we shouldn't talk about it until after he gets back from Iran.

[mell]

It's only debatable if you haven't been into him for very long. Listen to all his albums, Smiths and Solo, read the lyrics, read Morrissey and Marr, (Scandal and Passion and Saint Morrissey would probably be good supplemental material)...... And you will come to the inevitable conclusion Morrissey is gay. There is simply no other way to see it.

Sorry, I have to say that I haven't yet come to this "inevitable conclusion Morrissey is gay." Looking at everything he's said in interviews, I still see that Morrissey is more bisexual than purely homosexual, or at least open to having a relationship with a woman. (Hell, he could be heterosexual too!) Two of my best friends are gay men and they would never utter any of the words Morrissey has about being "open" to women. Nor have they lusted after busty pin-ups like Diana Dors. Maybe my friends are just "gayer" than Morrissey, but sorry, I just don't see it as an obvious thing at all.

[DAVID is my HERO]

Sorry if someone already mentioned this:


Has he slept with women?

''Yes. I feel completely open. If I met somebody tomorrow, male or female, and they loved me and I loved them, I would openly proclaim that I loved them, regardless of what they were. I think people should be loved whatever their gender, whatever their age. I am open to everything. I accept that my experience is different from that of most men. But I feel reasonably normal. I don't feel like a freak. My world is bigger. I never lived in a small town with small morals. I don't want to take drugs. I don't, so far as I am aware, want to take part in activities such as group sex. I'm actually a reasonably conservative, boring person.''

-From Observer, December, 1992

[EPbabe]

Sorry if someone already mentioned this:


Has he slept with women?

''Yes. I feel completely open. If I met somebody tomorrow, male or female, and they loved me and I loved them, I would openly proclaim that I loved them, regardless of what they were. I think people should be loved whatever their gender, whatever their age. I am open to everything. I accept that my experience is different from that of most men. But I feel reasonably normal. I don't feel like a freak. My world is bigger. I never lived in a small town with small morals. I don't want to take drugs. I don't, so far as I am aware, want to take part in activities such as group sex. I'm actually a reasonably conservative, boring person.''

-From Observer, December, 1992


Well, that certainly gives us some hope... :o Though the interview is from 1992 and his views might have changed since then. He also might have been sarcastic when giving this interview, so heaven knows. But a girl can dream... :p

[DAVID is my HERO]

Well, that certainly gives us some hope... :o Though the interview is from 1992 and his views might have changed since then. He also might have been sarcastic when giving this interview, so heaven knows. But a girl can dream... :p


hahaha yeah i'm not really gay or anything... but something about Morrissey..... hahaha.

yeah 92 was a while ago. But i don't see him as one to change his views on something like that you know?

[imogen11]

I think morrissey leans towards the gay side of bisexuality. hehe I'm not sure there is such a thing but, sorry Frinkers, thought he may have in the past, I just can't imagine him with a woman now.

Nevertheless....

Staring in the window of the
shop that never opens
planning my selection from
all the treats inside
should I take as I desire oh
shall I oh shall I
or should I hang around to be enticed inside.

I'm trying to explain to myself
I can have both
I'm trying to explain to the voice inside
I can have both
I can have both
There's nobody around to say no
who've brainwashed this small shy boy inside
he doesn't know
he can have both
Smiling through the window to the
one who never serves you
I've not been feeling myself tonight
should I take as I feel like it
well shall I oh shall I
or should I wait and hope to be dragged inside

I can have both
there's no need to choose
because I can have both
there's no need to choose.

[Hellie]

I think morrissey leans towards the gay side of bisexuality. hehe I'm not sure there is such a thing but, sorry Frinkers, thought he may have in the past, I just can't imagine him with a woman now.

Nevertheless....

Staring in the window of the
shop that never opens
planning my selection from
all the treats inside
should I take as I desire oh
shall I oh shall I
or should I hang around to be enticed inside.

I'm trying to explain to myself
I can have both
I'm trying to explain to the voice inside
I can have both
I can have both
There's nobody around to say no
who've brainwashed this small shy boy inside
he doesn't know
he can have both
Smiling through the window to the
one who never serves you
I've not been feeling myself tonight
should I take as I feel like it
well shall I oh shall I
or should I wait and hope to be dragged inside

I can have both
there's no need to choose
because I can have both
there's no need to choose.


EXACTLY.He` said this before that hes not particularly sexual but open to falling in love with either sexes.Which makes hi bisexual.

I'm not sure how i feel about bisexuals really.On the one hand it makes them very open un biased people who see the good and beauty in both male and female.

then again it might make them dirty little sods that just want to shag anything.;)

[Amy]

then again it might make them dirty little sods that just want to shag anything.;)


:rolleyes: what makes you think they have a choice in being bisexual?

[Hellie]

:rolleyes: what makes you think they have a choice in being bisexual?


i don`t i was jesting.

[Not Right in the Head]

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k238/morrisseysolo/smutty%20thread/35haveafagcopy.jpg

You ARE a Farker!

[Hellie]

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k238/morrisseysolo/smutty%20thread/35haveafagcopy.jpg


That is just TOO funny.:)

Where do you get all these pics of yours Corny?Do you have an archive?

[mell]

I don't, so far as I am aware, want to take part in activities such as group sex. I'm actually a reasonably conservative, boring person.''
-From Observer, December, 1992

My gay male friends love group sex (or at least threesomes/foursomes)!
So Mozza is an anomaly. :rolleyes:
or he must be straight! yay!

[Hellie]

My gay male friends love group sex (or at least threesomes/foursomes)!
So Mozza is an anomaly. :rolleyes:
or he must be straight! yay!



no he`s just got class and is a gentleman.:)

[Not Right in the Head]

My gay male friends love group sex (or at least threesomes/foursomes)!
So Mozza is an anomaly. :rolleyes:
or he must be straight! yay!

So he's an ano-male-y? Isn't that what we're talking about here?

[Hellie]

and he doesn't want to get all sticky!

:sick:Yuk.Call me old fashioned but group sex is a definate no no.

come to think about it sex with one other person is out too.:p

best sticking to the solo type.

Saves on the washing bills.:D

[mell]

no he`s just got class and is a gentleman.:)

:eek: You mean I must be hanging out with unclassy people?! Oh dear, I need to find some new friends! :tears:

I agree with you about group sex--uhh no thank you very much! Plus, I hear things can get awkward :p

[Not Right in the Head]

:sick:Yuk.Call me old fashioned but group sex is a definate no no.


I agree with you about group sex--uhh no thank you very much! Plus, I hear things can get awkward :p

Sounds like the annual Moz SoLow meetup/orgy that I'm planning is bound for failure.

[mell]

Sounds like the annual Moz SoLow meetup/orgy that I'm planning is bound for failure.

HAAAHA!!! If you could convince Moz to change his stance on orgies and get him to participate, I'm game! :D Forget everything I just said about it being awkward.

PLAY BALL!

[dom]

Sounds like the annual Moz SoLow meetup/orgy that I'm planning is bound for failure.

I love meat orgys. Cant ever get enough beef.

I think Mozza is GENUINLY confused. I just think he really doesn't know, which is probably why he has sometimes deemed himself a-sexual.

If he ever did do group sex i reckon he'd wear his glasses, as he only tends to wear his glasses when he's feeling depressed. If Morrissey ever wanted be loved that badly i reckon he'd have to be very near the deepest realms of sadness! ;-)

[vicarinatutugal]

I love meat orgys. Cant ever get enough beef.

I think Mozza is GENUINLY confused. I just htink he doesn't know, which is why he has sometimes deemed himself a-sexual.

If he ever did do group sex i reckon he's wear his glasses, as he only tends to really wear his glasses when he's feeling depressed, and i'm assuming for MOrrissey to ever want to be loved that badly, he's have to be near the edge!

Did you learn everything you know about Morrissey from the importance of being Moz? I am not being rude with that question, just seems thats where you have gotten your info from.

[dom]

Did you learn everything you know about Morrissey from the importance of being Moz? I am not being rude with that question, just seems thats where you have gotten your info from.

Huh? No, i havent watched that. What is it? I have only just started following Mozz so havent any dvd's on him other than a live one, and a couple of books and all his music,

[vicarinatutugal]

Huh? No, i havent watched that. What is it? I have only just started following Mozz so havent any dvd's on him other than a live one, and a couple of books and all his music,

aww a total Newbie. Nice. Well you have said a couple of things that could have been lifted right from that, that was why I was wondering if thats where you got your info from, I was thinking that or Scandal and passion the book. :rolleyes:
Anyway you have lots to find out and thats a good thing.
The importance of being Moz is a channel 4 documentary. Might be on youtube if you have a look.

[dom]

Did you learn everything you know about Morrissey from the importance of being Moz? I am not being rude with that question, just seems thats where you have gotten your info from.

Maybe i should clarify. I have only got my opinions of him from a book called The severed alliance...and Saint Morrissey...The rest i have concluded from analysing his lyrics, which the book saint morrissey does to a great extent. He seems a very confused individual, and totally on his own. I think he's so lonely, or he thinks he is, so much so that he has made his own island of doubt and insurity of himself...one of that being in his sexuality...in my opinion :)

[dom]

aww a total Newbie. Nice. Well you have said a couple of things that could have been lifted right from that, that was why I was wondering if thats where you got your info from, I was thinking that or Scandal and passion the book. :rolleyes:
Anyway you have lots to find out and thats a good thing.
The importance of being Moz is a channel 4 documentary. Might be on youtube if you have a look.

Ah cool! I love Youtube for that. I shall definately check it out, always up for watching doc's, however, i have my doubts that the BBC could do a fully decent appraisal/critique fo such a man...lol...we shall see. Many thanks for the info :)

[vicarinatutugal]

Maybe i should clarify. I have only got my opinions of him from a book called The severed alliance...and Saint Morrissey...The rest i have concluded from analysing his lyrics, which the book saint morrissey does to a great extent. He seems a very confused individual, and totally on his own. I think he's so lonely, or he thinks he is, so much so that he has made his own island of doubt and insurity of himself...one of that being in his sexuality...in my opinion :)

well as sweet as St Moz is it is written by a gay man (fan) who seems to project a lot of his opinions on to things Morrissey has said or "done" I do think it is rather sweet and I love some of his fan boy comments cause some of the things he thinks I think that as well. I think maybe a lot of your opinions to me seem to be Morrissey as a youth, I do not think he is that confused about life now. (of course that is my opinion)

[vicarinatutugal]

Also, Morrissey is critical of The importance Doc, he has referred to it as The impotance of being Morrissey, I think its brilliant though, its channel 4 not bbc.

[dom]

well as sweet as St Moz is it is written by a gay man (fan) who seems to project a lot of his opinions on to things Morrissey has said or "done" I do think it is rather sweet and I love some of his fan boy comments cause some of the things he thinks I think that as well. I think maybe a lot of your opinions to me seem to be Morrissey as a youth, I do not think he is that confused about life now. (of course that is my opinion)

Ahh yes, that is true. I suppose it's hard for someone not to be biased sometimes, even if they dont want to, as they can be effected by something like their sexuality. You could be right about it being his youth, i suppose i just quite like the idea of the "Mysterious Mozz" who is his own island... more romanticly tragic I suppose, lol, but that's me, heh heh.

[Sunbags]

The impotance of being Morrissey,


That's hilarious, when did he say that??:D

[Kewpie]

That's hilarious, when did he say that??:D


Suddenly everyone becomes a proof-reader.
Karin meant The Importance of Being Morrissey. :o

[vicarinatutugal]

That's hilarious, when did he say that??:D

In a interview with uncut may 2006 :D really funny.

Suddenly everyone becomes a proof-reader.
Karin meant The Importance of Being Morrissey. :o

Aww thanks Kewpie but no I did not, I meant the Impotence and that is what I wrote, the exact thing was, when asked whether he prefered channel 4 or bbc he said "channel 4 because of shameless, but certainly NOT because of The Impotence of being Morrissey."

[the judge]

The Impotence of being Morrissey."

:D :D :D
He's got humour.

[the judge]

Is user dom a journo?

[vicarinatutugal]

Is user dom a journo?

oh cause he is poorly informed about Morrissey or has clichéd views on what Morrissey is like? hahahahah! http://www.3rdgen.org/bb/images/smilies/jk.gif

[Kewpie]

Is user dom a journo?


http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/evilgrin0010.gif (http://www.smilieshq.com)

If he is one, what would you do? :D

[dom]

Lol. If any-ones interested, I am a journalist, but not registered or profesional. I am trying to write free lance and for magz or local papers, trying to get my foot in there. No success yet. Got a degree in Eng Lit and doing a BSC in Audio Science at the mo. In my spare time i write articles on live gigs, tours albums and artists past, current and up-comming. I am looking for a fun loving gal who loves fun loving things, not afraid of heights but tall enough to be scared of the ground she stands on. Young, or old. Black hair with curls. LOL ;)

Just in case anyone wants to know. (About me, not about dating, that was just a joke. Unless you're up for a 3 way with me a Mozza!? )

[dom]

http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/evilgrin0010.gif (http://www.smilieshq.com)

If he is one, what would you do? :D

I would love him and take him into the fold, like a lamb at dinner time, only alive and with a small bottle of udder milk.

[Hellie]

Sounds like the annual Moz SoLow meetup/orgy that I'm planning is bound for failure.

One of my finer qualities is recognising i may be wrong.....:horny:Bagsy first invite.:D

[nugz]

Lol. If any-ones interested, I am a journalist, but not registered or profesional. I am trying to write free lance and for magz or local papers, trying to get my foot in there. No success yet. Got a degree in Eng Lit and doing a BSC in Audio Science at the mo. In my spare time i write articles on live gigs, tours albums and artists past, current and up-comming. I am looking for a fun loving gal who loves fun loving things, not afraid of heights but tall enough to be scared of the ground she stands on. Young, or old. Black hair with curls. LOL ;)

Just in case anyone wants to know. (About me, not about dating, that was just a joke. Unless you're up for a 3 way with me a Mozza!? )

not to sound like a bitch, but seriously? you wanna be a journalist? you need to work on your spelling skillz a bit then.

[the judge]

It's Ok.

[vicarinatutugal]

It's Ok.

what is? Morrissey's sexuality, well I am sure it is thanks for letting us know. :p

[Amy]

Lol. If any-ones interested, I am a journalist, but not registered or profesional. I am trying to write free lance and for magz or local papers, trying to get my foot in there. No success yet. Got a degree in Eng Lit and doing a BSC in Audio Science at the mo. In my spare time i write articles on live gigs, tours albums and artists past, current and up-comming. I am looking for a fun loving gal who loves fun loving things, not afraid of heights but tall enough to be scared of the ground she stands on. Young, or old. Black hair with curls. LOL ;)

Just in case anyone wants to know. (About me, not about dating, that was just a joke. Unless you're up for a 3 way with me a Mozza!? )

About the journalist bit; where did you go for your degree?

I'm just curious, because I want to be a journalist myself and I am starting looking at Uni applications in the summer.

[the judge]

what is? Morrissey's sexuality, well I am sure it is thanks for letting us know. :p

WOW. how many meanings has my sentence? :p
I was referring to dom, no problems with him.




I'll say it here and now and for the n-th time. I love morrissey-solo, I love the people posting on here. It's a funny place to hang around and Moz fans are still the nicest people I met on the internet. People who Brett's forum (on which I'm posting daily these days) are a little bit too sarcastic for my likes. There's a great atmosphere on solo.

[vicarinatutugal]

WOW. how many meanings has my sentence? :p
I was referring to dom, no problems with him.




I'll say it here and now and for the n-th time. I love morrissey-solo, I love the people posting on here. It's a funny place to hang around and Moz fans are still the nicest people I met on the internet. People who Brett's forum (on which I'm posting daily these days) are a little bit too sarcastic for my likes. There's a great atmosphere on solo.

lol I was teasing cause you did not quote any one. :p

[dom]

not to sound like a bitch, but seriously? you wanna be a journalist? you need to work on your spelling skillz a bit then.

If i got a penny for every time someone said that to me on live chat / forum. I dont look or type properly on something like this, but my spelling is appauling anyhow, i just use spell check, not very good i know, but i've never been good at spelling. Spelling isn't the biggest problem in journalism, as the magic spell checker comes in, biggest problem is how to be origional, and not sell out to the mass like NME do every bloody week. Full of half boiled trash and impoverished egos, lol.

[dom]

About the journalist bit; where did you go for your degree?

I'm just curious, because I want to be a journalist myself and I am starting looking at Uni applications in the summer.

Ahh ok! That awsome. Well, as i said i only got an English Lit degree and am doing Audio Science now, i haven't actually done a journalism degre. I will most likely do short courses on it, but most of it will be off my own back and portfolio. A degree in it is a much better idea though, i am only doing it this way becuase of lack of time. There are a few unis to speak of, but it depends where you want to live and study, there are lots.



A small collection fo ones i looked at a while ago:

http://www.city.ac.uk/journalism/

http://www.ox.ac.uk/about_the_university/introducing_oxford/annual_review/oxford_and_research/bridging_academia.html

http://www.shef.ac.uk/journalism/

http://www.coventry.ac.uk/postgraduate-study/part-time-course-by-subject/journalism





But the best one i think, and one of the most prestigious, in Wales at least is in Cardiff

http://www.cf.ac.uk/jomec/

These are contact adds for the national newsapers of the UK and other mags etc :)

Newspapers

http://www.journalismuk.co.uk/links.htm


That's really all i can give you. Other than that, if you havnt done so already, really build up your portfolio, it's vital, and also write for mags and newspapers now too, even if they are easy to apply to. Best of luck to you too :)

[Amy]

Ahh ok! That awsome. Well, as i said i only got an English Lit degree and am doing Audio Science now, i haven't actually done a journalism degre. I will most likely do short courses on it, but most of it will be off my own back and portfolio. A degree in it is a much better idea though, i am only doing it this way becuase of lack of time. There are a few unis to speak of, but it depends where you want to live and study, there are lots.



A small collection fo ones i looked at a while ago:

http://www.city.ac.uk/journalism/

http://www.ox.ac.uk/about_the_university/introducing_oxford/annual_review/oxford_and_research/bridging_academia.html

http://www.shef.ac.uk/journalism/

http://www.coventry.ac.uk/postgraduate-study/part-time-course-by-subject/journalism





But the best one i think, and one of the most prestigious, in Wales at least is in Cardiff

http://www.cf.ac.uk/jomec/

These are contact adds for the national newsapers of the UK and other mags etc :)

Newspapers

http://www.journalismuk.co.uk/links.htm


That's really all i can give you. Other than that, if you havnt done so already, really build up your portfolio, it's vital, and also write for mags and newspapers now too, even if they are easy to apply to. Best of luck to you too :)


Thankyou very much for the info Dom :)

I was all set to do a Journalism degree, either in Coventry or Sheffield Hallam, but I spoke to my careers advisor at college and he persuaded me that it would be more useful to get an English degree, and then do a postgraduate Journalism course elsewhere. With that in mind, I'm looking to apply to UCL, Durham, Cambridge etc (I am in England) for an English Lit degree, and then there is a 1 year postgraduate Journalism course at Sheffield which seems useful. Thankyou for the links :)


Amy x

[dom]

Thankyou very much for the info Dom :)

I was all set to do a Journalism degree, either in Coventry or Sheffield Hallam, but I spoke to my careers advisor at college and he persuaded me that it would be more useful to get an English degree, and then do a postgraduate Journalism course elsewhere. With that in mind, I'm looking to apply to UCL, Durham, Cambridge etc (I am in England) for an English Lit degree, and then there is a 1 year postgraduate Journalism course at Sheffield which seems useful. Thankyou for the links :)


Amy x

That's so interesting you say that's the way you were advised to do it, cos i had simillar advice but not from careers advice (cos i didnt use it unfortunately) And i thought it would be much better to have an all round literature degree, in order to get versed in the language and such, then learn the skills afterwards in a short course. That way i think one becomes more of a rounded individual. So you've probably got it right. Very much good luck to you ma dear. No problem about the links :)

[Amy]

That's so interesting you say that's the way you were advised to do it, cos i had simillar advice but not from careers advice (cos i didnt use it unfortunately) And i thought it would be much better to have an all round literature degree, in order to get versed in the language and such, then learn the skills afterwards in a short course. That way i think one becomes more of a rounded individual. So you've probably got it right. Very much good luck to you ma dear. No problem about the links :)

Thanks :)

Doing a literature degree also gives me access to a wider range of Universities - I found that when looking for 'Journalism BA', not a great many places offered it, and the ones that did were quite low in the national league tables. I'm doing Literature at A-level as well and I really enjoy it, so it seems sensible to carry on to degree level. So, atm I'm just working hard to try and get the grades I need, hopefully I'll be successful, and then we can have a go at putting the Tim Jonze' of the world out of a job :D

[Not Right in the Head]

One of my finer qualities is recognising i may be wrong.....:horny:Bagsy first invite.:D

Oh, did I say "SoLow"? Sorry, then, I misspoke--I meant solo, and the festivities are quite over by now. :D