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Unlikely One
December 31, 2007, 03:31 PM
Hi folks. Does anyone have any idea how many promos are knocking around for this release. I noticed a couple being sold on ebay. One without artwork and one with maroon and blue disc and Moz in West Ham shirt pic. The latter is a nice item but sold for £51. Is it really that much of a rarity?

Walkers Crisp
December 31, 2007, 03:45 PM
Hi, I've seen several of these on ebay recently, so i dont think it's rare. I'm relatively sure the prices for this item will go down as soon as the CD single is released. 51 GBP is crazy!! I paid 12,50 GBP for mine (w/artwork) on ebay, still quite a lot for this promo.

the beast
December 31, 2007, 04:05 PM
i snared the 1st one that came on ebay for 28 english pounds. i suppose these items are only worth what the individual who wants it will pay;)

robert
December 31, 2007, 06:01 PM
I think it's impossible to say how many are out there. But if they went through the expense of actually pressing cds (vs doing the CD-R thing that Sanctuary loved) and making artwork there are probably quite a few out. Prices will plummet once the song is officially released. Happens every time.

Kewpie
December 31, 2007, 06:17 PM
You'll find some copies Vinyl Exchange in UK.

beau
December 31, 2007, 06:41 PM
i suppose these items are only worth what the individual who wants it will pay;)

I wish people would stop saying this, as if it's some unique kernal of wisdom.

Two things usually happen when a promo comes out. The first few sell for large sums on eBay, until it's realized how many billions are out there. Everyone who wants one now has one, so the value drops like a stone.

Or, weeks/months after release, it's realized the item is much rarer than originally thought, and people reflect back when it "only" sold for XX pounds/dollars.

The former happens much more often than the latter.

girlunafraid
December 31, 2007, 07:11 PM
You'll find some copies Vinyl Exchange in UK.

I've emailed them a while ago asking them to let me know when they get some in & I've not heard anything, everytime I check their site they haven't got any in either? Buggeration.

love

Grim

Chartres
January 1, 2008, 08:35 PM
You'll find some copies Vinyl Exchange in UK.

Good site?

Buzzetta
January 1, 2008, 08:41 PM
I wish people would stop saying this, as if it's some unique kernal of wisdom.

Two things usually happen when a promo comes out. The first few sell for large sums on eBay, until it's realized how many billions are out there. Everyone who wants one now has one, so the value drops like a stone.

Or, weeks/months after release, it's realized the item is much rarer than originally thought, and people reflect back when it "only" sold for XX pounds/dollars.

The former happens much more often than the latter.

It is very much true though. Price is determined by what the market will sustain. People are always asking me what something is worth to which I reply go to eBay and check completed auctions to see.

Josh987
March 27, 2008, 11:32 PM
As a fellow collector I thought I'd let you know

the US version in the jewel case that recently sold for the obscene amount of over 120 on ebay is limited to 200

I talked to the lady who made them today.

So there you go...there are only 200 of them

mikael
March 27, 2008, 11:50 PM
Thanks for the info!
The first (I think) promo for greatest hits sold for 161 usd on e-bay.
One of us here got lucky and picked up the US promo for a lot less than 120 usd (saw one that sold for 26 I think). Big congrats on that!

Flax
March 28, 2008, 01:46 AM
As a fellow collector I thought I'd let you know

the US version in the jewel case that recently sold for the obscene amount of over 120 on ebay is limited to 200

I talked to the lady who made them today.

So there you go...there are only 200 of them


you mean this promo here?:

http://songsthatmadeyousmile.com/stuff/thpgu_promo.jpg

mikael
March 28, 2008, 01:53 AM
Nice one!

Flax
March 28, 2008, 02:26 AM
Nice one!

Thanks!! I am glad I didn't have to pay $122 for it! :)

Dave2006
March 28, 2008, 03:04 PM
you mean this promo here?:

http://songsthatmadeyousmile.com/stuff/thpgu_promo.jpg

Is it the reverse cover that makes this limited to 200? It is completly different to the one I bought. Does the CD loo the same as the UK one - kind of blue & Purple squares?

There's an Irish one on ebay at the moment http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MORRISSEY-Thats-How-People-Grow-Up-RARE-radio-promo-CD_W0QQitemZ190209552692QQihZ009QQcategoryZ1049QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

No idea if it is different from the UK version. I bought a UK one on eBay for £15...there seems to have been a lot of those up for sale...they are going for about £6 now :(

nowherefast944
April 10, 2008, 01:19 PM
so is this the rare promo/ the pictured one above by Flax?

Not Right in the Head
April 10, 2008, 01:43 PM
so is this the rare promo/ the pictured one above by Flax?

I thought he Photoshopped it!

Flax
April 10, 2008, 02:08 PM
so is this the rare promo/ the pictured one above by Flax?

Yes, it is. :)


I thought he Photoshopped it!

haha no! See? You never believe what I say! :(
This is the actual US promo.

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Dave,
The UK promo comes in a slim jewel case, and the back cover is the blue and burgundy squares and circles.

http://www.vulgarpicture.com/morrissey/images/2007_thatshowpeoplecd_promo_1.jpghttp://www.vulgarpicture.com/morrissey/images/2007_thatshowpeoplecd_promo_2.jpg

The US promo comes in a regular jewel case, with that black and white artwork in the back. The US version seems to be rarer, however the UK version looks MUCH better.

http://www.vulgarpicture.com/morrissey/images/2007_thatshowpeoplecd_uspromo_1.jpghttp://www.vulgarpicture.com/morrissey/images/2007_thatshowpeoplecd_uspromo_2.jpg

If you want both, go for it, but if you're not a serious collector and just wants to have one of these promos, I recommend the UK cd. Much cheaper and looks much better.

Dave2006
April 11, 2008, 10:55 AM
Yes, it is. :)

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Dave,
The UK promo comes in a slim jewel case, and the back cover is the blue and burgundy squares and circles.

http://www.vulgarpicture.com/morrissey/images/2007_thatshowpeoplecd_promo_1.jpghttp://www.vulgarpicture.com/morrissey/images/2007_thatshowpeoplecd_promo_2.jpg

The US promo comes in a regular jewel case, with that black and white artwork in the back. The US version seems to be rarer, however the UK version looks MUCH better.

http://www.vulgarpicture.com/morrissey/images/2007_thatshowpeoplecd_uspromo_1.jpghttp://www.vulgarpicture.com/morrissey/images/2007_thatshowpeoplecd_uspromo_2.jpg

If you want both, go for it, but if you're not a serious collector and just wants to have one of these promos, I recommend the UK cd. Much cheaper and looks much better.

Thanks for that Flax - I suppose I was also curious to know if the CD itself was the same burgundy and blue style or is it a diferent design?

In terms of being a serious collector...I'm not up for collecting every country's versions, I'm more interested in the artwork - if it is different then I'll want it (like the 4 versions of "Stop Me.." look great framed like Andy Warhol) but I do have at least one copy of every single (7", 12" & CD)and every album of the Smiths and Morrissey plus an assortment of promos (not quite complete) and other stuff. In fact I was showing my collection to a friend the other night he was quite bowled over...he asked me what would I do if the house caught fire...I panicked...posters first...then records...and then remembered that I'd get my daughter and partner out first :)

Flax
April 11, 2008, 01:09 PM
Thanks for that Flax - I suppose I was also curious to know if the CD itself was the same burgundy and blue style or is it a diferent design?

In terms of being a serious collector...I'm not up for collecting every country's versions, I'm more interested in the artwork - if it is different then I'll want it (like the 4 versions of "Stop Me.." look great framed like Andy Warhol) but I do have at least one copy of every single (7", 12" & CD)and every album of the Smiths and Morrissey plus an assortment of promos (not quite complete) and other stuff. In fact I was showing my collection to a friend the other night he was quite bowled over...he asked me what would I do if the house caught fire...I panicked...posters first...then records...and then remembered that I'd get my daughter and partner out first :)

hahah I guess you're like me then... interested in the artworks. I don't have many posters though... I guess it's because I move around so much and I would never really get the opportunity to put them on the walls. Maybe someday, eh.

As for the cd, the US version is one of those cheap CDRs, with black letters on top. I'll take a photo and send it to you when I get home.

nowherefast944
April 11, 2008, 01:33 PM
hahah I guess you're like me then... interested in the artworks. I don't have many posters though... I guess it's because I move around so much and I would never really get the opportunity to put them on the walls. Maybe someday, eh.

As for the cd, the US version is one of those cheap CDRs, with black letters on top. I'll take a photo and send it to you when I get home.
move around too much? send me your bulk collection. i'll take care of it ;);)


move to philadelphia!

Flax
April 11, 2008, 02:37 PM
move around too much? send me your bulk collection. i'll take care of it ;);)


move to philadelphia!

yeah! haha
Sao Paulo... then Seattle... then Sao Paulo again... then Rio... then Boston... I'm crazy.

vivabob
April 11, 2008, 09:59 PM
yeah! haha
Sao Paulo... then Seattle... then Sao Paulo again... then Rio... then Boston... I'm crazy.

glasgow seems crap in comparison

Flax
April 11, 2008, 11:17 PM
glasgow seems crap in comparison

I would love to visit. Glasgow and Edinburgh. I'd love to follow Moz around the UK... hopefully someday when I can afford it. :)

Flax
April 11, 2008, 11:18 PM
Here:

http://www.songsthatmadeyousmile.com/stuff/thpgu1.jpg

http://www.songsthatmadeyousmile.com/stuff/thpgu2.jpg

http://www.songsthatmadeyousmile.com/stuff/thpgu3.jpg

Dave2006
April 13, 2008, 10:38 PM
Thanks for the photos, Flax. Don't think I'll be bothering to search for a copy
Dave

Flax
April 13, 2008, 10:53 PM
Thanks for the photos, Flax. Don't think I'll be bothering to search for a copy
Dave

You're welcome... I saw one today on ebay going for $137 + shipping. :eek:

girlunafraid
April 14, 2008, 05:50 AM
You're welcome... I saw one today on ebay going for $137 + shipping. :eek:

I was bidding on that but as per usual got outbid at the last minute, not that I would have gone that high anyhoo, patience is a virtue!

love

Grim
P.s. who is that winning bidder?

vivabob
April 14, 2008, 10:08 AM
ive been out bid on stuff all week

grlmopz
April 14, 2008, 09:33 PM
That winning bidder is me! Hooray for last-minute bids.

Cheers,
Scott.

vivabob
April 14, 2008, 10:13 PM
well done scott ;)

girlunafraid
April 15, 2008, 05:26 AM
Grrrrrrrrrr grlmopz :)

love

Grim
P.s. I'll wait, I'm sure there'll be a few more along in a minute, like the buses! :eek:

Dave2006
April 15, 2008, 08:55 AM
If you haven't already seen this....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=360040895837&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=023

Happy hunting!

Dave2006
April 16, 2008, 09:13 AM
If you haven't already seen this....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=360040895837&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=023

Happy hunting!

Quoting myself...how sad :(

But it went for US $142.50 plus p+p. Crikey! Puts it near to the top of the Mozzer top 100 rareities! ... For the time being at least ;)

girlunafraid
April 16, 2008, 04:54 PM
Quoting myself...how sad :(

But it went for US $142.50 plus p+p. Crikey! Puts it near to the top of the Mozzer top 100 rareities! ... For the time being at least ;)

effin outbid again ffs!

love

Grim
P.s. let's hope a shitload of them come out just like the UK 1's did, remember how much they used to go for at 1st & now they are going for a fiver!

tiswaldo
April 25, 2008, 09:25 PM
I picked up the US promo for 19 quid BIN earlier this week so either I was very lucky or the market price is dropping. Having said that I paid the same for the UK version a few months back and you can't give them away now!

Inox
April 25, 2008, 10:12 PM
Tiswaldo, where did you pick up the US THPGU US promo CD?

Take care, Marcel

tiswaldo
April 26, 2008, 10:21 AM
Tiswaldo, where did you pick up the US THPGU US promo CD?

Take care, Marcel

It was a buy it now auction on ebay from this shop -

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/MOZZERMAN-MUSIC

Cheers

Inox
April 27, 2008, 09:55 AM
Thanks for the information tiswaldo! It was the only copy he had. So, I have to wait a little longer for a reasonable priced copy.

Take care, Marcel

Antic the Fearless
May 7, 2008, 08:07 PM
There is currently another one of these up on eBay here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270234927956

As of 5/7 it was selling for only US$37.

The auction runs until 5/12 at 11:00 AM PDT.

Antic the Fearless
May 8, 2008, 06:15 PM
There were only 200 of the US promos produced and many of them were probably thrown out or kept by the radio stations they were sent to.

There is currently one of the US promos up on eBay here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270234927956

As of 5/8 it was selling for only US$51.

The auction runs until 5/12 at 11:00 AM PDT.

Kewpie
May 12, 2008, 11:31 PM
There were only 200 of the US promos produced and many of them were probably thrown out or kept by the radio stations they were sent to.

There is currently one of the US promos up on eBay here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270234927956

As of 5/8 it was selling for only US$51.

The auction runs until 5/12 at 11:00 AM PDT.


:eek:
$172 for a promo CD?
World's gone mad.

mikael
May 12, 2008, 11:49 PM
Well, it is a very nice cd. And it's only money;)

Dave2006
May 13, 2008, 02:07 AM
And this one went for £162.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120259673436&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=002

Bonkers...It's a cd that was given away to radio stations...no doubt some lucky git in the office picked this out and flogged it without it ever getting played on air. Other promo cds go for just a few $'s



Well, it is a very nice cd. And it's only money;)

You are right about it only being money...what does it matter? But I think that Flax's photos prove the comment about it being a very nice cd to be wrong. No imagination went into the cd or the artwork for the US version. It's just cynical marketting / promotional work from Morrissey's management - but at whose cost? Does a US version mean that more US radio stations will play it, or it will chart higher than if the normal European version was used to promote it? I doubt it. So why produce a different one, with such lack of imagination?

It's going for top dollar because of the scarcity of it - only 200 copies. Who knows how many copies of the other promo were made? Does anyone know? If it stays at this price it places it alongside grey/green mispressed Girlfriend in a coma discs in the Smiths Record collector list - I know which I'd rather have (I know which I have :)

mikael
May 13, 2008, 06:59 AM
If it stays at this price it places it alongside grey/green mispressed Girlfriend in a coma discs in the Smiths Record collector list - I know which I'd rather have (I know which I have :)

I can have both?

vivabob
May 13, 2008, 07:46 AM
:eek:
$172 for a promo CD?
World's gone mad.

yes


Well, it is a very nice cd. And it's only money;)

lol ... even i think its a tad expensive

Dave2006
May 13, 2008, 08:35 AM
I can have both?

Of course you can.

And you can all of the RC Top 100 and the list of Morrissey rarities and a new car and long holidays and a bigger house....and be irresistable to the opposite / same sex (whatever floats your boat :) )

Happy Hunting!

Grim O'Grady
May 14, 2008, 09:08 PM
someone started a 200 only rumour & the price of the US promo cd has gone through the roof! Has anyone made a note of how many have gone under the hammer so far?

love

Grim

Grim O'Grady
May 14, 2008, 10:22 PM
so why was it moved/hidden? Why do we have numpties so called moderating something they know nothing about?

If I'd have wanted to ask a general unspecific question I would have asked it in the thread that was already in view ffs!

love

Grim

Grim O'Grady
May 14, 2008, 10:48 PM
so why was it moved/hidden? Why do we have numpties so called moderating something they know nothing about?

If I'd have wanted to ask a general unspecific question I would have asked it in the thread that was already in view ffs!

love

Grim

I've reported this post because it does nothing to enhance the original thread, why was it moved here anyway?

Grim

mikael
May 15, 2008, 01:53 PM
I think I have seen 7 for sale so far. 6 on ebay. Funny thing is I have only seen 3 greatest hits promos for sale, all from the same seller. I wonder how many of those were made? Not to many probably since it is also a CD-R.

Kochka
September 25, 2008, 06:36 AM
There is one copy of THPGU US promo on ebay :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=120308504679

:)

Dave2006
October 1, 2008, 07:57 PM
There is one copy of THPGU US promo on ebay :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=120308504679

:)

£31 - must be the cheapest one so far - by a long way...

Shame I missed it :(

roky
October 3, 2008, 03:30 AM
I went here on 09/27

http://b937online.com/Spartanburg-Music-Expo---Sptg-Memorial-Auditorium-/2281082

and picked up the THPGU US promo for $5.00
and a Smiths "Shelia" German blue cover LIEP609073E for $25.00
Paid $5.00 to get in. I also got some Big Country stuff.

joey
October 7, 2008, 09:20 PM
I've got a THPGU radio promo, but I think it's the UK version? It's not silver, but almost a light blue and reddish-purple.

Dave2006
October 7, 2008, 09:52 PM
I've got a THPGU radio promo, but I think it's the UK version? It's not silver, but almost a light blue and reddish-purple.

Yep. it's the uk version, not the us.
Flax posted photos on page 2 http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showpost.php?p=837625&postcount=25