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Houdini
December 21, 2007, 07:03 PM
Let's compile our own Morrissey/Smiths Top 100 by rating all 232 Moz/Smiths-songs.

Song for Today: WE HATE IT WHEN OUR FRIENDS BECOME SUCCESSFUL

Voting should be something along these lines:
10: Perfection
9: Near perfect, brilliant
8: Really good Moz/Smiths song
7: Good Moz/Smiths song
6: OK, Nothing special
5: Uninspired
4: Poor
3: Bad
2: Should never have been released
1: He/They should be ashamed

The songs so far (voting is still open, click to vote):

Part 210: Vicar In A Tutu (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81763)
Part 209: Used To Be A Sweet Boy (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81716)
Part 208: Unloveable (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81681)
Part 207: Unhappy Birthday (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81632)
Part 206: Trouble Loves Me (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81564)
Part 205: Tony The Pony (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81527)
Part 204: Tomorrow (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81464)
Part 203: To Me You Are A Work Of Art (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81426)
Part 202: This Night Has Opened My Eyes (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81386)
Part 201: This Is Not Your Country (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81341)
Part 200: This Charming Man (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81281)
Part 199: These Things Take Time (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81236)
Part 198: There's A Place In Hell For Me And My Friends (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81193)
Part 197: There Speaks A True Friend (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81156)
Part 196: There Is A Light That Never Goes Out (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81117)
Part 195: The Youngest Was The Most Loved (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81083)
Part 194: The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=81052)
Part 193: The Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80995)
Part 192: The Queen Is Dead (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80923)
Part 191: The Public Image (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80811)
Part 190: The Ordinary Boys (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80771)
Part 189: The Operation (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80745)
Part 188: The Never Played Symphonies (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80634)
Part 187: The National Front Disco (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80545)
Part 186: The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80496)
Part 185: The Loop (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80450)
Part 184: The Lazy Sunbathers (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80409)
Part 183: The Last Of The Famous International Playboys (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80300)
Part 182: The Headmaster Ritual (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80348)
Part 181: The Harsh Truth Of The Camera Eye (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80260)
Part 180: The Hand That Rocks The Cradle (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80225)
Part 179: The Father Who Must Be Killed (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80203)
Part 178: The Edges Are No Longer Parallel (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80143)
Part 177: The Draize Train (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80111)
Part 176: The Boy With The Thorn In His Side (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80071)
Part 175: The Boy Racer (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80040)
Part 174: That's Entertainment (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=80004)
Part 173: That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=79972)
Part 172: Teenage Dad On His Estate
Part 171: Sweetie Pie
Part 170: Sweet And Tender Hooligan
Part 169: Sunny
Part 168: Suffer Little Children
Part 167: Suedehead (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=79575)
Part 166: Such A Little Thing Makes Such A Big Difference
Part 165: Stretch Out And Wait
Part 164: Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=79377)
Part 163: Still Ill (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=79252)
Part 162: Spring-Heeled Jim
Part 161: Speedway (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=79159)
Part 160: Southpaw
Part 159: Sorrow Will Come In The End
Part 158: Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others
Part 157: Slum Mums
Part 156: Skin Storm
Part 155: Sister, I'm A Poet (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=78857)
Part 154: Sing Your Life
Part 153: Shoplifters Of The World Unite (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=78770)
Part 152: Sheila Take A Bow
Part 151: Shakespeare's Sister
Part 150: Seasick Yet Still Docked (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=78609),(follow this link to first 149 songs).

Best performing songs, parts 1 to 149 (click to vote):

Part 147: Rubber Ring (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=78444)
Part 145: Reel Around The Fountain (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=78386)
Part 140: Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=78163)
Part 136: Panic (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=78042)
Part 135: Paint A Vulgar Picture (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=77981)
Part 128: Now My Heart Is Full (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=77664)
Part 126: November Spawned A Monster (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=77601)
Part 124: Nobody Loves Us (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=77524)
Part 104: Life Is A Pigsty (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=76672)
Part 101: Late Night, Maudlin Street (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=76554)
Part 100: Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=76504),
Part 96: Jack The Ripper (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=76326)
Part 93: Irish Blood, English Heart (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=76176)
Part 88: I've Changed My Plea To Guilty (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=75911)
Part 83: I Won't Share You (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=75641)
Part 81: I Want The One I Can't Have (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=75545)
Part 77: I Know It's Over (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=75303)
Part 65: How Soon Is Now? (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=74712)
Part 61: Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=74491)
Part 57: Handsome Devil (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=74213)
Part 56: Hand In Glove (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=74150)
Part 55: Half A Person (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=74076)
Part 54: Hairdresser On Fire (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=74018)
Part 50: Girlfriend In A Coma (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=73727)
Part 42: First Of The Gang To Die (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=73179)
Part 41: Everyday Is Like Sunday (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=73130)
Part 36: Disappointed (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=72819)
Part 26: Cemetry Gates (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=72311)
Part 21: Bigmouth Strikes Again (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=72045)
Part 14: Asleep (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=71665)
Part 1: A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=71058)

Skinner
December 21, 2007, 07:06 PM
I voted a 9. I too kind of hate it when my friends are successful meanwhile I still live with my parents :rolleyes:

nugz
December 21, 2007, 07:12 PM
fun video! fun song to sing along to! "ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, its really laughable!" love that part. :)

I'd give it an 8.5, but im gonna round down to an 8 for this one.

Corrissey
December 21, 2007, 07:12 PM
We are on the W's!?! W t f :( :D

High 8. I love the ending lines, "verse, chorus, middle eight, break, fade, just listen ..."

This song was in the Top 10 of the Onion's best 'Laughter in Music'. ah ha ha ha ha ha...

who wants ice cream!?
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m267/IcingSugarGirl/038.gif

the judge
December 21, 2007, 07:32 PM
9 !
one of my favs. it's funny and cheers me up when i hear it.

the judge
December 21, 2007, 07:35 PM
ho ho hohohoho

Comtesse
December 21, 2007, 08:47 PM
Another poor Morrissey A-side from the '90's. The laughing non-chorus is disgraceful for a man of so many words. The only good memory of this song that I have is seeing him point at the crowd in front of him at Arco Arena in Sacramento as he mimed in camp disgust, "Oh, LOOK AT THOSE CLOTHES!" Musically, I always thought this was just a less melodic version of "Our Frank". I give it a 6 for a couple of good lines.

mozmal
December 21, 2007, 09:39 PM
Average. 7.

Casagrande
December 21, 2007, 11:41 PM
Simply a nice song. 8.

jesusH
December 21, 2007, 11:50 PM
I like this song a lot. A little bit of success really shows you who your real friends are.

Patrick McGoohan
December 22, 2007, 12:39 AM
I like this song a lot. A little bit of success really shows you who your real friends are.

Explain.




:D

Vauxhall95
December 22, 2007, 01:03 AM
We are on the W's!?! W t f :( :D

High 8. I love the ending lines, "verse, chorus, middle eight, break, fade, just listen ..."

This song was in the Top 10 of the Onion's best 'Laughter in Music'. ah ha ha ha ha ha...



I give it a nine. I held the pointer over 8, put ultimately my take on this song is slightly different than what everyone has mentioned thus far. Yes, it is funny, but moreover it is such a savage indictment of the jealousies we all possess. No one I know is able to capture the human condition and put it into song better than Morrissey. For me, it is what separates him from the rest of the field. Not only is the song a truism it is also a nearly unspoken one.

Raquel
December 22, 2007, 03:31 AM
The older I get the truer this song gets...especially if they're northern!
Goes along nicely with You've Got Everything Now.

Dave
December 22, 2007, 03:56 AM
10 for sentimental reasons. The CD single cover photos alone are worth 3 points.

oscillate wildly
December 22, 2007, 03:59 AM
i like eeeeeeet.

8

celibate
December 22, 2007, 05:22 AM
an 8

as for choosing not the best from an album as a single, this one is one
of the few that's on my good side, it's catchy, easy singalong lyrics,
and about 3 minutes, so a perfect Morrissey single.

I give 1 point extra for the ice cream licking in the video, which is one
of Morrisseys best

and if they northern
that makes it even worse

imogen11
December 22, 2007, 06:34 AM
6.5. hmm...couple of good lines in it....
I like it but I'm a little nonchalant also.
And if I compare it to what I would consider to be a 9-10, well, it's only above average, really...

Piss Me Off
December 22, 2007, 11:49 AM
The first ever Morrissey song i heard, so i suppose it has some sentimental value to me. This track always reminds me of the first time i saw him performing in the way only he can :) 8 from me i think.

Radio Berlin
December 22, 2007, 12:43 PM
I became a morrisseyfan thanks to this song :) 9

laughing_anne
December 22, 2007, 09:27 PM
Listening to this song on my iPod always makes my ears bleed. Not because I don't like it, (I DO, one of my favs) but simply because the beginning is so loud :D
A solid 9 from me :)

Your Arsenal
December 22, 2007, 11:10 PM
Ok, over it. where's today's poll? I WANT THE NEW POLL! HOUDINI!

King Leer
December 23, 2007, 05:20 AM
It's interesting this song comes up for voting just before the release of That's How People Grow Up. I think they're cut from the same cloth. Very pop, not too deep, somewhat throwaway. I like these types of Morrissey songs as much as any other -- it depends on your mood.

Recently more fans have been complaining about Morrissey stretching out vowels and other vocal affectations in place of writing lyrics -- this song shows he's been doing it a while. I think the mock laughter/singing is great. 8

celibate
December 23, 2007, 07:35 AM
Ok, over it. where's today's poll? I WANT THE NEW POLL! HOUDINI!

it's gonna be 2 10's in a row

we'll let you know
[I hope we don't argue over,... its the turn of styles/ its the tunstiles... [that makes
us hostile]...the song is too good to argue about that, btw its turnstiles

well I wonder [doesn't count, it's so beautifull that its not ranking worthy]

Maurice E
December 24, 2007, 03:38 PM
9 for the brilliant live version with the crunchy guitars and the energetic vocals, 7 for the mediocre recorded version.
This was Alain Whyte's first composition for Moz...

meat_is_murder19
December 24, 2007, 03:47 PM
We hate it when our friends become successful,
And if they're northern
That makes it even worse

gotta love that

Well I Wonder
January 2, 2008, 01:52 PM
Not bad. 7/10

*EqualOpportunityHater*
January 2, 2008, 02:19 PM
10 for sentimental reasons. The CD single cover photos alone are worth 3 points.

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