Tijuana show

[mell]

Hi...I was just wondering if anyone else is going to try to go to the TJ show? I live in San Diego and I am going (well, if I can get tickets)! I know the border crossing can be a pain, blah blah...so I am just curious if any fellow So. Cal people are going? Or are you all going to hit the LA shows instead?

[SandiR]

I live in San Diego. I would have been there in a heartbeat, but instead I will be in Cancun on a vacation that was planned months ago. I'll have to see him in LA. Go to the show and have fun!! :)

[Mel_Torment]

Hi...I was just wondering if anyone else is going to try to go to the TJ show? I live in San Diego and I am going (well, if I can get tickets)! I know the border crossing can be a pain, blah blah...so I am just curious if any fellow So. Cal people are going? Or are you all going to hit the LA shows instead?

I'm still thinking of going even though I live in Moz Angeles and have all those Palladium shows plus I already bought a Santa Barbara ticket.

The thing is, I think one is obligated to buy up the entire table if one wants to be close to the stage.

No one I know is still planning to go to TJ ever since the Palladium shows were announced. TJ is on a work night for most stiffs (Thursday). Urgh, I do not like TJ. It's not crossing the border (into Mexico) that's a pain, it's being in TJ that's a pain.

[mell]

To get close to the stage in TJ you really think it's the seated table tickets? Nobody I know seems to know which tickets we should try to buy! I certainly don't want those table tickets, but I do want to be close to the stage so I can shake the man's hand (and tell him I love him)!

I don't like TJ either and I wouldn't be going there for anyone else. I wish I could do the 10 show LA package, but it's a little too far for me to drive back and forth (especially if I want to keep my job). :p

Well, maybe you'll change your mind. I'd be happy to see some other border crossers at the show!

[Mel_Torment]

To get close to the stage in TJ you really think it's the seated table tickets? Nobody I know seems to know which tickets we should try to buy! I certainly don't want those table tickets, but I do want to be close to the stage so I can shake the man's hand (and tell him I love him)!


Actually, I was thinking of how the Celebrity Showroom (Sparks, NV) was set up, the tables were next to the stage. I thought this because the description of El Foro compared it to casino seating, which was the case for the Celebrity Showroom. However, El Foro's set up seems to be different.

Peep the piccies of the venue (especially the second from the right)
http://community.iexplore.com/planning/journalEntryActivity.asp?journalID=53745&entryID=63389&n=El+Foro

http://www.produccionesbulldog.com/mapa1.htm

I think we do NOT need a table. The floor tickets appear to be what gets you closer to the stage. Good thing they're not so expensive -- $40...but then there's the service charge. Urgh!

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La venta de boletos para el concierto de MORRISSEY en Tijuana sera a partir del proximo Sabado, 8 de SEPT (10AM) - a traves de TICKETMASTER USA y las taquillas de EL FORO. Los boletos tendran un costo de:

$ 30 Dlls Terraza (Numerados)
$ 40 Dlls PISO Gral
$ 45 Dlls Palcos Laterales, Mezzanine, CLUB (Numerados)
$ 75 Dlls Palco VIP (Solo Mesas Completas de 6 u 8 Personas)

Mas cargos de servicio.
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Bulldog Productions has an advert that says AEGLIVE is a promoter for the show, but AEGLIVE.com has nothing on the Tijuana show.

[Mel_Torment]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q214/argeisha/moz-1.jpg

According to the promoter's myspaz page
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=2863203&blogID=302895271
tickets go onsale 10 am, September 8.

[DeadLinDy]

I'd be scared to go to the show in TJ... i dont speak espanoly... maybe some corrupt cops would kidnap me and force me to work the donkey shows. Viva Mexico!

[Mel_Torment]

So there IS a presale for this show. TM now lists a presale TOMORROW -- Thursday, Sept. 6.

Great, like there's no other presales going on at 10 am Thursday! :rolleyes:

Well, no sense in stressing about it. Hopefully most norte americanos will stay where they is and not buy up the TJ tix. ;)

[mell]

So there IS a presale for this show. TM now lists a presale TOMORROW -- Thursday, Sept. 6.

Great, like there's no other presales going on at 10 am Thursday! :rolleyes:

Well, no sense in stressing about it. Hopefully most norte americanos will stay where they is and not buy up the TJ tix. ;)

THANKS FOR THE INFO!!!!!!!!! I haven't been checking Ticketbastard so I didn't know about the presale till now! My friend (who is from TJ) just called the venue and we asked which tix will put us closest to the stage and they said to buy the Floor tickets (Piso gral), not the table ones. Hopefully this guy working at the venue knew what he was talking about!!

[AmgoingtoseeMoz]

Just wondering if anyone got tixs for this show? I thought about it and wonder, are only the box seats for sale and is the floor going to available to buy now or if at all EVER??? Lot's of questions, I know but there seems to be very little infor about this show, so if anyone knows, it will be much appreciated!!

[Mel_Torment]

The floor is for sale. It's the $40 ticket.

Somehow I thought I requested the floor, and then when I got to the final screen, it said I had purchased a VIP ticket and that my card was charged $91.40. No way, Jose'!

So I shot off an email about the error, expecting to be refunded. Just in case Ticketbastard decides to really be a bastard about it and not refund me, online I changed the billing address on the credit card I used so that the info will not match the address I gave TM and TM will not be able to process the order. Luckily I have several cards registered with TM so I can still use the other cards to make other orders.

If my change-the-billing address tactic doesn't work and TM is truly a bastard about it, I suppose the worst that could happen is that I get a seat and can move to the floor if I feel like it!

[mell]

Just wondering if anyone got tixs for this show? I thought about it and wonder, are only the box seats for sale and is the floor going to available to buy now or if at all EVER??? Lot's of questions, I know but there seems to be very little infor about this show, so if anyone knows, it will be much appreciated!!

I bought three of the $40 tickets this morning. I think I just used GREATESTHITS as the password. $9.40/ticket was charged as a convenience charge. I think if you do get the VIP tickets you'll get drinks/table service...or something!

[Sharron Needles]

Where the hell is this place? I normally park in San Ysidro, and walk across, but really only to the 'pharmacia,' so not too familiar with Ave. Rev. Can you walk there or do you need to take one of the taxis at the bottom of the bridge?

[mell]

Where the hell is this place? I normally park in San Ysidro, and walk across, but really only to the 'pharmacia,' so not too familiar with Ave. Rev. Can you walk there or do you need to take one of the taxis at the bottom of the bridge?

After you walk across the border (if you're parking in San Ysidro) just catch one of the taxis waiting and tell them you want to go to Revolucion Ave...it's the main tourist strip with all the bars, shops, etc. I can't remember how much the taxi ride costs, but it's not very much. You can also walk the 1 or 1.5 miles to Revolucion Ave...I imagine there will be college kids, etc walking back and forth on a Thursday night. But, personally, I would do a taxi instead of walking late at night.

[Mel_Torment]

Even in a taxi, it's a good idea to travel in a group at night. I think it'll cut down on the risk of getting shook down by la policia and other lawless hooligans.

I'm going to walk from the border to the venue. My lardass could use the exercise, and it should be safe in the daytime. Besides, I wanna see the sights. So Sharron, I'm up for a sharin' a taxi on the way back at night.

Here's a map of how to get to the venue from the border (the foot map is the one where there's a bridge crossing in grey):

http://www.produccionesbulldog.com/lugares.htm

[Mel_Torment]

Oh yeah, I was able to get a refund for the VIP ticket and get a cheap $40 ticket instead! Yay, they weren't so bastard after all.

[Stoner Kebab]

what do you mean?? is it dangerous??? this is bullshit! am i supposed to dress down? bullshit bullshit bullshit.

[Sharron Needles]

the risk of getting shook down by la policia and other lawless hooligans.



That doesn't sound too bad to me!

[Mel_Torment]

Not if you like to keep your money!

I said la policia are lawless or corrupt, not sweet & tender. ; )

The last time I was in Mexico City for Mozzer's first concert in Mexico ever, my host, was pulled over for a very minor traffic violation. It cost him a $35 bribe. Tourists will get shaken down for more, especially if you are alone and prosperous-looking.

[Sharron Needles]

Tourists will get shaken down for more, especially if you are alone and prosperous-looking.

Oh well. Guess I'll have to take the towncar then....:rolleyes:

[rebelbettie]

I am planning on parking in SD for the show and doing some TJ exploration before the show. I mostly do not want to drive through the border because the lines are horrible coming back and it is much quicker to walk across. Anyone want to potentially do a pre-show meet up? I am not scared or anything, but since I am going alone it would be nice to meet some fellow Mozzy fans willing to brave TJ. I may be contacting a friend who lives in TJ to give a grand tour. Oh and remember to bring your pasaporte.

[nobodysxhero]

i will be there, with a carful of los angeles-ians. :)

[NKYLVN]

How funny that you guys are a little scared about "scary TJ", I spent many weekends and summer vacations at my abuelitas house. I rode those taxis with my cuzins every where, and went bar hoping a lot when old enough. I do recommend if not driving into TJ to take a taxi and tell the driver "Al Foro" They know it's on the street we all call " La Revo". I can't make it there on a Thursday with work and my lil' one has socccer practice, but I hope those going enjoy themselves. Be safe, stay in groups, and don't set your drink on the table ;)

[swayhead]

i have been to a few shows at el foro. it's not the most comfortable place for a concert since they can really pack you into that small space, but its a nice close intimate setting. i think the last concert i seen there was enrique bunburry. i can't wait for this show, should be good! stay in groups and just be careful out there.

[mell]

How funny that you guys are a little scared about "scary TJ", I spent many weekends and summer vacations at my abuelitas house. I rode those taxis with my cuzins every where, and went bar hoping a lot when old enough. I do recommend if not driving into TJ to take a taxi and tell the driver "Al Foro" They know it's on the street we all call " La Revo". I can't make it there on a Thursday with work and my lil' one has socccer practice, but I hope those going enjoy themselves. Be safe, stay in groups, and don't set your drink on the table ;)

Hey...who you callin' a scaredy cat?! ;) Actually, the only reason I'm not worried is because I'll be going with two guys who grew up in TJ and *claim* to know the ropes ($5 should be enough for your police bribes)! Unfortunately, my TJ memories don't involve happy summers with relatives. Instead, they all seem to involve a car full of 18 yr olds (driven by a DD of course) craning their necks out the windows the entire ride back to the University because, inevitably, someone had puked all over themselves or all over the inside of the car! *shudders*

Seriously though...I can't wait to be there again in 2 weeks. I had to do a happy dance this morning at work after I bought my tickets. Morrissey, I love you!

[AmgoingtoseeMoz]

The floor is for sale. It's the $40 ticket.

Somehow I thought I requested the floor, and then when I got to the final screen, it said I had purchased a VIP ticket and that my card was charged $91.40. No way, Jose'!

So I shot off an email about the error, expecting to be refunded. Just in case Ticketbastard decides to really be a bastard about it and not refund me, online I changed the billing address on the credit card I used so that the info will not match the address I gave TM and TM will not be able to process the order. Luckily I have several cards registered with TM so I can still use the other cards to make other orders.

If my change-the-billing address tactic doesn't work and TM is truly a bastard about it, I suppose the worst that could happen is that I get a seat and can move to the floor if I feel like it!


I bought three of the $40 tickets this morning. I think I just used GREATESTHITS as the password. $9.40/ticket was charged as a convenience charge. I think if you do get the VIP tickets you'll get drinks/table service...or something!

Thanks everyone for your help. I still don't understand why there is VIP section (BOXES) for around $70 dollars when the floor is so cheap in comparison. Does some of the tables get taken down and turn into the floor when the show starts. I don't understand why the they are also $40 dollars too?:confused:

[Mel_Torment]

For non-Moz shows, the box seats are better because you can sit your ass down at a table instead of standing up like a pleb. That's why they're priced like that.

I dunno what to make of some Irish-surnamed gringo spoofin' Mexican love for El Mozzer, but I liked some of the touches like the stop-motion pony delivering the challenge and the headline about the vision of La Mozzer de Guadalupe in the plantains at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQIzaJJDIR4

Of course, I expect the Mexicans at the TJ show will be better dressed than the clowns in the viddy.

[Mel_Torment]

Sorry to get off topic, but I just have to share my love for Manic Hispanic. Too bad none of their best songs made it to Youtube in good sound quality, but here's the best of the lot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GLG9BREppQ

[rebelbettie]

A lot of my friends can't go to the show, not because they are scared of TJ, but because of the new passport regulations. I am really wondering whether this factor will keep a lot of Mozzy's American fans out.

[nobodysxhero]

re: passport regulations

i've spoken to people at the passport office, and checked online (travel.gov). my passport is expired. they will allow you to enter with one of the following:

- proof of application for passport renewal, AND driver's license. it takes 7-10 days after applying for the passport to be able to print out the form you need as "proof." even if you do it in person, you still have to wait till it processes to the internet. don't ask me why.

- the easier option: driver's license AND document that proves you're a U.S. citizen. in my case, that's my original (no photocopies) birth certificate.

regulations are relaxed still, because of the high demand for passports. if i'm wrong about anything, please do let me know!

cg

[rebelbettie]

I looked on the site, and it seems that you are right. This is what it states...

Do I need a passport to go on a cruise or to travel by vehicle across the land border to Canada or Mexico?

No, but it is recommended that U.S. citizens carry and present government-issued identification when requested. Although not currently required to present a document, U.S. citizens arriving by land and sea must still establish to the satisfaction of the inspecting officer that they are U.S. citizens.

As early as January 2008, the Departments of Homeland Security and State will begin to implement WHTI at land and sea ports of entry. A Notice of Proposed Rule Making outlining a phased implementation is expected to be published in the Federal Register within the next two weeks.

I am not worried because my passport is still good. But, nonetheless, I think this misconception may keep a lot of his American fans from going to the TJ show. In some ways, I kinda hope it does because it will be less crowded and more intimate, which will be a contrast to the LA shows that I usually go to.

[theboyracer]

This is going to be so much fun.

[Mel_Torment]

Bump - so that people won't start brand new threads for this topic. ; )

So, theboyracer, I'll see you there! I'll give you a call about meeting up. Will you be coming in from L.A. or Phoenix? PM or phone me. Mebbe we can carpool.

Anyroad, I got an email saying that the El Foro tickets are printed and should arrive in the post in a few days. I dunno why, but I'm excited to see the actual ticket. I'm envisioning a fancy, glitter encrusted ticket. It'll probably be one of those boring heat-printed TM deals, but don't wake me when I'm dreaming. I think my brane is caught up in the what the 10 date Palladium package ticket(s) will look like. I'll probably be disappointed...even if it isn't a total clusterfck (which is what I expect). Edit: I mean, I expect the Palladium package with front of the queue privileges, NOT the El Foro show in TJ, to be a clusterfck. TM, Livenation, and TTY have not set a good precedent with misinformation and general dumbfuckery with regard to the press releases and ticketing of the Palladium 10 date package.

If it's hot in the next couple of days, I'll be obsessively checking the post to make sure those heat-printed tickets don't turn black and void!

[sr.shankly]

good morning to everyone

I just want to give everyone some accurate information regarding TJ. I was born and raised and still live in TJ so i can actually give you a little more insight than other people can.

TJ is NOT dangerous, but as in most city's if you are looking for trouble you WILL find it.
You will not be stoped for no apperent reason just so the cops can take your money, but if you are speeding, driving drunk, behaving recklessly, trying to score drugs, etc. please dont expect to get away with anything you would not in your own country. If you do break the law then guess what?? you are problably gona get busted by the cops, if this happens you got 2 choices either you pay your fines or try to bribe the cops, belive me not all cops accept bribes, im my late teens i used to party alot and can testefy to that fact.

Tj also like many cities has good parts of town and bad parts, EL Centro (downtown) i would say is a bad part of town were you will see a lot of poor people and gringos :) sad but true. unfortunently el centro is popular for turist and so tijuana get a pretty bad rap.

for people comming to TJ for the first time if you are only going to the concert i suggest you stick to Revolucion street, that is a pretty safe street for americans, also El Centro is divided into 11 streets, i recommed you stay away from the first 2 streets, that is where you will find hookers and congales (cheap bars with some stripping but mostly prostitution).

If you need more info post here and i will be any questions you might have.

Hope everyone has a good time at the concert!!! I still cant belive he is comming to my home town!! YOU ROCK MORRISSEY

[sr.shankly]

1 week to go, AWSOME, cant wait!!!!

[mell]

I know!!!! I'm SOOOO excited!!! I think people at work think I'm a freak because I've been bouncing off the walls this week...they don't understand what this means to me. I was kind of sad this summer because I knew I probably wouldn't see HIM again on tour for another year or more, so the announcement of the West Coast shows was like an early Christmas for me! I just hope when I try to claw my way up on stage to hug Morrissey I won't get hauled off to a Mexican prison! :p

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

i have been to a few shows at el foro. it's not the most comfortable place for a concert since they can really pack you into that small space, but its a nice close intimate setting. i think the last concert i seen there was enrique bunburry. i can't wait for this show, should be good! stay in groups and just be careful out there.

"Bunburry"? Are you kidding me? Moz would freaking love that...

[sdsuedehead]

3 of us are going from SD. Im excited cause this will be the 3rd time I will be going to the start of a leg of a tour. Im one of those people that cant wait & have to know what songs hes playing so its no suprise when I see him.

Hopefully he will dust off some gems for this last leg of the tour!!!

[Puggy]

First of all, HI EVERYONE. This is my first post here. Been a long time Morrissey-Solo reader.

OMG! This is so ironic. I'm Mexican, I live in Ensenada, some 70 miles south of TJ. I've bought plenty of tickets for San Diego concerts (most recently the Moz show at the embarcadero, and the Smashing Pumpkins for next week), and ticketmaster always has international will call.

The TJ gig has TJ as being in CA, and there's no international will call available. It's only available to US or Canadian residents!!!111!!eleventyone!!1?

Am I doing something wrong? I can't buy tickets for a concert in Mexico, but I can for concerts in the US?

Any mexicans have the same problem?

ETA: This is a screenshot
http://148.231.200.29/moz/mozship.jpg

[sr.shankly]

uhmm weird, i purchased tickets with a credit card that has a mexican address on it and made them will call, i had no problem.
the only problem i did have is when i called the venue they said they are not responsable for will call tickets, so i called ticketmaster and they told me they would have a booth outside the venue on the day of the concert after 12 in the afternoon, heres to wishing TicketMaster dosent screw me over!!!

but you should take the trip to TJ and buy some at the veneu i think they still have some available, dont wait to long or you will probably miss the show.

[Mel_Torment]

http://www.produccionesbulldog.com/fotoseventos/flyersgrande/MORRISSEY1.jpg

This advert says you can get your tickets in Mexico from ticket outlets for El Foro.

Are there ticket offices for El Foro in other cities in Mexico besides Tijuana?

I wouldn't know because I don't live there.

[Puggy]

Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll have to try my luck driving to TJ on Saturday :(, hope there's still good seats.

[mell]

Hi Puggy,
Are you sure you can't just click on the Will Call option even though it is listed under US Customers? I would think as long as you have the credit card and/or identification that matches the name on the tickets, you should be able to buy the tickets and pick them up at Will Call. Perhaps you could call Ticketmaster before driving all the way to TJ? Good luck!

[Puggy]

Hey mell. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

After I select the US Only Will call, I get taken to the Billing Address page (even though I have an account on Ticketmaster). On the Country box, USA is preselected and can't be changed. Besides the box it says: "Address in a different country? Choose a delivery method for your area." And that takes me to the delivery methods that include only US and Canada...

Very weird. I'll call Ticketmaster later.

Thanks!

[Puggy]

Got Floor tickets! I hope I'm not to tired from the Smashing Pumpkins show the night before, hehe.

[mell]

Woo-hoo!!! See ya on the floor Puggy! If all goes according to plan, I'll be one of the shorties up in front! :p

[xrebirthx]

I went to El Foro in TJ last Saturday and got my tickets for general admission and there was a pretty big line! Any way, I'm from San Diego and will def. be going. I'm thinking of hitting up the place pretty early just to make sure that I get into the front row. What time are all of you guys thinking of heading down to tj?

Does anyone know how much a cab would be? Last time I saw Moz was in June and I was sick a week before he played, and now it's a little less than 1 week before he plays and im sick again! Pure torture!

[mell]

I went to El Foro in TJ last Saturday and got my tickets for general admission and there was a pretty big line! Any way, I'm from San Diego and will def. be going. I'm thinking of hitting up the place pretty early just to make sure that I get into the front row. What time are all of you guys thinking of heading down to tj?

Does anyone know how much a cab would be? Last time I saw Moz was in June and I was sick a week before he played, and now it's a little less than 1 week before he plays and im sick again! Pure torture!

Unfortunately, I don't think my friends and I will be border crossing till 6 or 7pm since we all have to work on Thurs. I am hoping I can just ease my way to the front while Kristeen Young is playing. She doesn't seem to get much love so I am hoping that is my opportunity to get up close!

Yea, what the heck is with all the viruses that go around SD?? I had two people from my department go home yesterday with the flu. I am going to be seriously pissed if I get sick this week! If you're sick right now, at least you'll probably be feeling better by Thursday ;)

[alucard1974]

i'm in l.a., going to three palladium shows, but also going down to TJ as it's sure to be an experience. two of my friends can't go and i'm selling their tickets at face value $45 a piece. they're in box 11. am going to put them on craigslist, but would rather sell them to someone on this site. if you're interested, i can drop them in san diego the morning of the show, on my way down... hit me with an e-mail alucard1974@aol.com.

[theboyracer]

Does anyone from Tijuana know where I might go to have a shower and change clothes? I'll gladly trade alcohol for it :p Thank you.

[rebelbettie]

Does anyone from Tijuana know where I might go to have a shower and change clothes? I'll gladly trade alcohol for it :p Thank you.

I am meeting a friend who lives down there. He may be able to help you out by loaning his shower. He's always up for helping travelers. E-mail me for my contact info if interested.

[sr.shankly]

i would also like to help out but my wife just dosent go for this.
anyway, i will be outside the venue since morning so see you there

[mell]

whoohoo! only 12 more hours!!!

[AmgoingtoseeMoz]

Hope everyone that went to this concert had a great time and please, if you can please please share details on how the show went, that would be great. Which I know it was great, man I wish I could of been there :(

[westendgirl]

I wonder what song he is playing right now?? *sigh* 15 more days, and I see MOZ!!!!!!!!! :D

[bagface]

i will be happy if there's any vauxhall

[westendgirl]

i actually can't sleep until i know what he played!!! aahhhhh i will be so so so so happy if there's any vauxhall

Argh I feel like it's taking forever! COME ON!!!!!!!!

[bagface]

Argh I feel like it's taking forever! COME ON!!!!!!!!

i knoooooow i can't wait

[westendgirl]

i knoooooow i can't wait

Oh really...?? I couldn't tell..:p :D

This is the thing that kills me when I am not at the concert, I wonder what Moz is playing/saying/wearing/exactly doing while the concert is going on.....I get anxious....thankfully this dies down a bit as the tour continues and progresses....:D silly probably, but I believe a lot can relate to this. :D

[SNS22]

let's see....

You're The One For Me, Fatty
That's Entertainment
Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others
Lifeguard Asleep, Girl Drowning
Roy's Keen
Michael's Bones
America Is Not The World
Mexico
Death At One's Elbow
You Must Please Remember
Papa Jack
Ouija Board, Ouija Board
Girl Least Likely To
The Slum Mums
On The Streets I Ran
There's A Place In Hell For Me & My Friends
No One Can Hold A Candle To You
I Won't Share You

Encore:
I Don't Mind If You Forget Me
Barbarism Begins At Home
Southpaw

Were All NOT Played

[SNS22]

From The Front Page...If this is the real set list...

I have DIED and Gone To Heaven

1, Panic
2. First Of The Gang To Die
3. The Youngest Was The Most Loved
4. All You Need Is Me
5. You Have Killed Me
6. Cemetry Gates
7. Let Me Kiss You
8. Sing Your Life
9. Ask
10. Everyday Is Like Sunday
11. Disappointed
12. That's How People Grow Up
13. Shoplifters Of The World Unite
14. Irish Blood, English Heart
15. The National Front Disco
16. I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris
17. I Just Want To See The Boy Happy
18. I Know It’s Over
19. How Soon Is Now?

Encore

20. The Last Of The Famous International Playboys
21. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out

SING YOUR LIFE, ASK, CEMETRY GATES, I KNOW IT'S OVER!!!!

[westendgirl]

oh My God! If That's True, I Think I Am Hyperventalating!!!! I Am In Shock And My Eyes Are Watery Full Of Joy If This True! I Am Sooooo Blown Away! I Hope This True!
:D :D :D :D

[bagface]

SURELY that set posted on the main page featuring sing your life, cemetry gates, i know it's over, etc is fake?

[nugz]

omg omg omg, I KNOW ITS OVER??!!! AND THERE IS A LIGHT???!!!

OMG OMGOMG!!! :eek::eek::eek:

[westendgirl]

SURELY that set posted on the main page featuring sing your life, cemetry gates, i know it's over, etc is fake?

I have a feeling there's a good chance it is fake, it's almost a too good too be true set list, then again is it too good to be true?? :D :p

[westendgirl]

omg omg omg, I KNOW ITS OVER??!!! AND THERE IS A LIGHT???!!!

OMG OMGOMG!!! :eek::eek::eek:

Exactly!!! I said that about 10 times in a row when I saw it too! :d

[nugz]

holy fucking shit. this is insane. omg. i think i need a fucking cigarette after seeing that!

[SNS22]

If it's true then Hell Has Frozen Over...

He Played a song From Kill Uncle....

[westendgirl]

Somebody slap me/punch me in the stomach to tell me this is not all a DREAM!

[bagface]

we seem to be overlooking ask too......hmmmm this set is very suspect. we need more people to come back and confirm

[westendgirl]

If it's true then Hell Has Frozen Over...

He Played a song From Kill Uncle....

O.M.G. YOUR RIGHT! :eek: He's come to his sense's...maybe..:p until the setlist is confirmed can I really say that.

[westendgirl]

we seem to be overlooking ask too......hmmmm this set is very suspect. we need more people to come back and confirm ahhhh!

yes, ASK is also a dream come true for me.....CONFIRM PEEPS, CONFIRM!!!!!!!!!!

[SNS22]

O.M.G. YOUR RIGHT! :eek: He's come to his sense's...maybe..:p until the setlist is confirmed can I really say that.

Well if it's fake..I don't think they would have put the new songs in there...
but maybe they're just good at fooling us LOL

[westendgirl]

Well if it's fake..I don't think they would have put the new songs in there...
but maybe they're just good at fooling us LOL

No they could have fooled us, even with the new songs.

[bagface]

thank goodness i don't have any classes tomorrow, i'm not going to get any sleep tonight until we get to the bottom of this haha

[westendgirl]

Grr, this is slooow torture! It's been 5 or 6 min's since someone's posted something!

[nugz]

still no Vauxhall and I. but seriously, ...with a setlist like this, its OKAY. ;)

[bagface]

Grr, this is slooow torture! It's been 5 or 6 min's since someone's posted something!

i agree this IS torture

[SNS22]

still no Vauxhall and I. but seriously, ...with a setlist like this, its OKAY. ;)

yeah...Dump Panic and How Soon Is Now...bring back Vauxall songs...

[madathena]

I was freaking out when I saw the "setlist" too.I'm so tired but cannot rest until I hear some kind of confirmation. Why the fuck am I so nuts? :p

[bagface]

reports coming in of a set including death of a disco dancer and stretch out and wait??? wow, i've never been too big a fan of death of a disco dancer but i love stretch out and wait. it would be pretty interesting if those were played.

[SNS22]

I was freaking out when I saw the "setlist" too.I'm so tired but cannot rest until I hear some kind of confirmation. Why the fuck am I so nuts? :p

Because you hope that he really did play I Know It's Over and Cemetry Gates instead of Stretch Out And Wait and Death Of A Disco Dancer...

[nugz]

i wish people would stop fucking with us!!! not nice! :mad:

[madathena]

Because you hope that he really did play I Know It's Over and Cemetry Gates instead of Stretch Out And Wait and Death Of A Disco Dancer...

Yes, that is true. When I saw Cemetery Gates I about had a coronary and it took a good 30 seconds until I could read the rest of the list. The supposed real setlist is ok too, hoping it will include some different stuff for the SF shows. I guess I can sleep now.

[bagface]

/////

[bagface]

why don't you find out for yourself nooo waaaaay

[nugz]

why death of a disco dancer??! why, moz, why?!!! :(:confused:

[bagface]

billy budd stretch out and wait london and why don't you find out for yourself definitely make up for it, i think

[nugz]

billy budd stretch out and wait london and why don't you find out for yourself definitely make up for it, i think

yeah but those dont make up for i know its over and there is a light and ask. :(

i'll get over it. im just a picky little bitch. :o

[SNS22]

yeah but those dont make up for i know its over and there is a light and ask. :(

i'll get over it. im just a picky little bitch. :o

No need to respond to that comment :p

[littlecharmer]

Just found these on flickr.

[dislocate my shoulder]

Just found these on flickr.

Thanks a lot!

Four songs for encore??

The new one - "One day good", what did it sound like, anybody?

[bagface]

to me, i think this set list is about as close to perfect as could rationally be

[the judge]

Wow. They filmed it, that's why he chose such songs, me thinks

[mell]

From The Front Page...If this is the real set list...

I have DIED and Gone To Heaven

1, Panic
2. First Of The Gang To Die
3. The Youngest Was The Most Loved
4. All You Need Is Me
5. You Have Killed Me
6. Cemetry Gates
7. Let Me Kiss You
8. Sing Your Life
9. Ask
10. Everyday Is Like Sunday
11. Disappointed
12. That's How People Grow Up
13. Shoplifters Of The World Unite
14. Irish Blood, English Heart
15. The National Front Disco
16. I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris
17. I Just Want To See The Boy Happy
18. I Know It’s Over
19. How Soon Is Now?

Encore

20. The Last Of The Famous International Playboys
21. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out

SING YOUR LIFE, ASK, CEMETRY GATES, I KNOW IT'S OVER!!!!

Hi Guys...I'm back in the States! It's 2AM and I need to go to bed, but just wanted to let you guys know this is not the real setlist. The setlist posted at the top of the show on the main page (provided by sdsuedehead) is the real one. I am crazy and wrote a letter to Morrissey and I was waving it around for the first half of the show and he seemed like he kept ignoring it. Plus, I was maybe a little too far back. At one point he glanced at it and seemed to have a momentary look of curiosity on his face. Anyway...took about half the show before I got close enough to the stage and he finally knelt down and leaned forward and asked "is that for me???" and scrunched up his nose. I nodded and seemed to lose the ability to think or speak. I was not close enough to hand it directly to him so a few people passed it forward and when he took it, he rubbed it over his sweaty face and then slid it into his front pocket. I almost died!!!! If anyone has a video of this, please, please post it. I would be forever greatful.

I'll try to write more tomorrow, but it was a great freaken show. The venue was a confusing mess outside but the venue was pretty small and the stage was low enough for a ton of people to rush the stage at the end. He ended the show wearing the Chivas jersey (think it was the jersey, the red and white striped one?) and it looked like it had autographs on the back. Possibly the band's autographs? I couldn't tell. He threw it into the crowd at the end. I got a few of the band guy's autographs after the show in back before they left in their van but didn't get to see Morrissey leave the building. Don't know if he left through a side door instead....

ok nite y'all. I might be able to write something more coherent in the morning. Oh yeah, a guy I talked to briefly out back said he got to the venue early and didn't see Julia there at all...I was kind of surprised. Did anyone else see her?? I don't think I heard Morrissey say her name at all during the show.

oh one more thing. Moz looked GREAT tonight. He looked svelte!

[dislocate my shoulder]

Wow. They filmed it, that's why he chose such songs, me thinks

I can't see any reason why there couldn't be any other songs.
Why, in your eyes, would he want these songs filmed?
I don't think it's for release, it's for the records company.

[dislocate my shoulder]

Hi Guys...I'm back in the States! It's 2AM and I need to go to bed, but just wanted to let you guys know this is not the real setlist. The setlist posted at the top of the show on the main page (provided by sdsuedehead) is the real one. I am crazy and wrote a letter to Morrissey and I was waving it around for the first half of the show and he seemed like he kept ignoring it. Plus, I was maybe a little too far back. At one point he glanced at it and seemed to have a momentary look of curiosity on his face. Anyway...took about half the show before I got close enough to the stage and he finally knelt down and leaned forward and asked "is that for me???" and scrunched up his nose. I nodded and seemed to lose the ability to think or speak. I was not close enough to hand it directly to him so a few people passed it forward and when he took it, he rubbed it over his sweaty face and then slid it into his front pocket. I almost died!!!! If anyone has a video of this, please, please post it. I would be forever greatful.

I'll try to write more tomorrow, but it was a great freaken show. The venue was a confusing mess outside but the venue was pretty small and the stage was low enough for a ton of people to rush the stage at the end. He ended the show wearing the Chivas jersey (think it was the jersey, the red and white striped one?) and it looked like it had autographs on the back. Possibly the band's autographs? I couldn't tell. He threw it into the crowd at the end. I got a few of the band guy's autographs after the show in back before they left in their van but didn't get to see Morrissey leave the building. Don't know if he left through a side door instead....

ok nite y'all. I might be able to write something more coherent in the morning. Oh yeah, a guy I talked to briefly out back said he got to the venue early and didn't see Julia there at all...I was kind of surprised. Did anyone else see her?? I don't think I heard Morrissey say her name at all during the show.

Awesome:) Glad for you.
A great show indeed, it seems.

EDIT:
What's the new song like and what's it called/how was it introduced?
How the other new songs on the list were introduced?

[M-in-Oz]

Would love to hear Billy Bud, Death of a Disco Dancer & London - extremely jealous & surprised at that setlist!

[Modcon]

Seems like a great show. Set list was really cool. Only a shame he dropped "The Last Of The Famous International Playboys". Hope it'll get back somewhere down the line. Also I would like to see and "What She Said" and "Handsome Devil"get in there some time.
And Shoplifters should be resurrected.

[jeniphir]

That setlist is amazingly good. . .I thought I was excited for this leg of the tour (5 in NYC, plus front row in Boston, for me!) but now I'm, like, beside myself!

I can't wait to see how much setlist variation there is during the Palladium residency (if any).

"Stretch Out & Wait"??? Are you KIDDING me???

--jeniphir

[sistasheila]

im not a big fan of london and even less on death of a

but STRETCH OUT AND WAIT !!! :eek:

omg

[Shaw]

I'm rather jealous of that setlist. A fair few surprises there, not to mention another new song, which i'm dying to hear.

[dislocate my shoulder]

1 min snippets of the songs here:
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=erks
1, 2 - Stop Me
3 - about police; In the Future
4 - NFD
5 - Stretch Out and Wait
6 - Paris
7 - Let Me Kiss You
8 - %
9 - One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell
10 - Boy With Thorn (light effects:))
11, 12, 13 - HSIN? (rock buckets instead of stroboscopes:))
14 - %
15 - Everyday

[bagface]

thanks for those great videos......he looks and sounds incredible! how i dearly wish indiana had GA...


and i'm already in love with the new song ahhhh

[Jones]

"One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell"

He's taking the piss out of all those people who agonised for weeks over whether him saying "Farewell" at a gig meant he was retiring. :D

[westendgirl]

WOW!! What an amazing setlist! I can't believe he played Why Don't You Find Out For Yourself and Billy Budd! Nugzie!!!! You got 2 Vauxhall and I song! ;) :D

And Stretch Out and Wait along with Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before, Death Of A Disco Dancer, AND LONDON!!!! OMG I LOVE LONDON! Incredible!!!!

I loved the videos, and quite like the new song as well!!!!!

I am getting soooooooo excited for the Palladium shows!! Bring it on baby! :D

[Puggy]

Awesome show. Was expecting the same setlist as SD in July, but immediately knew we were in for a special night when London started. Damn, what a wonderful show.

Loved the stage rushers. Loved the comic relief. Loved the setlist. Loved the crowd.

But I'm also embarrased by El Jefe being stopped by the Policia.

Loved when he said that we could see him in "Revolución" selling watermelons, cantaloupes, in a bicycle. haha.

It was so cool how he helped many get on stage. And how he grabbed two letters, and the whole rubbing them in sweat and putting them in his crotch.

This TOTALLY made up for the SD disaster.

[SNS22]

Okay...just for curiosity sake's..

WHICH opening did he use for Stretch Out And Wait?

"On The High Rised Estates..."

or

"All The Lies that You made up"....

[Skinner]

Why does everyone hate Death of a Disco Dancer?

Also, The fact that he played National Front Disco is incredible and makes me want to see him all that much more, if its possible. Ah! October 22nd just get here already!!!

[westendgirl]

Why does everyone hate Death of a Disco Dancer?

Also, The fact that he played National Front Disco is incredible and makes me want to see him all that much more, if its possible. Ah! October 22nd just get here already!!!

I dunno?? I rather like that song a lot. I listen to it once, and have it in my head for the rest of the day! :D

[Puggy]

I LOVE Death of a Disco Dancer. One of my favorite tracks. But I didn't see if Moz played piano, the speakers were in the way.

[westendgirl]

I LOVE Death of a Disco Dancer. One of my favorite tracks. But I didn't see if Moz played piano, the speakers were in the way.

WAIT A MINUTE HERE!!!! He plays the piano????? :eek: Why did I not know this?? I read something about this on the main board.....I never knew this! Does he only do it for this song?

[SNS22]

WAIT A MINUTE HERE!!!! He plays the piano????? :eek: Why did I not know this?? I read something about this on the main board.....I never knew this! Does he only do it for this song?

He plays the chopsticks part at the end of the song....

Not that difficult...my three-year old can do it too :)

[westendgirl]

He plays the chopsticks part at the end of the song....

Not that difficult...my three-year old can do it too :)

oh oh oh, I see, it is the easiest thing to play ont he piano.

[Kuiper]

Okay...just for curiosity sake's..

WHICH opening did he use for Stretch Out And Wait?

"On The High Rised Estates..."

or

"All The Lies that You made up"....

I've been wondering that too. Knowing how he likes to tinker with lyrics he hasn't sung in a while, it's probably some combination of those two version, and don't be surprised if he skips entire verses. I'm not complaining about him omitting lyrics, it's sounds like I am, and well I have no defense for that, it certainly does sound like I am whining about something irrelevant. :p


What is with the response of most people saying they don't care for London and Disco Dancer but are going nuts for Stretch Out and Wait? I knew the former two weren't fan favorites (though I love them both and look forward to hearing them both live), but I thought the latter wasn't that popular either. I like it too and thought the clip of it sounded good and I'm looking forward to hearing that as well, but that is the setlist addition I could care less about. Or maybe Why Don't You Find Out for Yourself. I really don't see why everyone adores that song so much. The electric demo is great, and the album version is okay, but I don't like the Introducing Morrissey version (never heard a bootleg of it from the Maladjusted tour so that is the only performance I can judge how it sounds live by). I hope they play it differently, closer to the demo version.

[dislocate my shoulder]

He plays the chopsticks part at the end of the song....

Not that difficult...my three-year old can do it too :)

His piano playing is sampled throughout the song.

Would be great to know for sure what was the musical solution live.

[SNS22]

I've been wondering that too. Knowing how he likes to tinker with lyrics he hasn't sung in a while, it's probably some combination of those two version, and don't be surprised if he skips entire verses. I'm not complaining about him omitting lyrics, it's sounds like I am, and well I have no defense for that, it certainly does sound like I am whining about something irrelevant. :p


What is with the response of most people saying they don't care for London and Disco Dancer but are going nuts for Stretch Out and Wait? I knew the former two weren't fan favorites (though I love them both and look forward to hearing them both live), but I thought the latter wasn't that popular either. I like it too and thought the clip of it sounded good and I'm looking forward to hearing that as well, but that is the setlist addition I could care less about. Or maybe Why Don't You Find Out for Yourself. I really don't see why everyone adores that song so much. The electric demo is great, and the album version is okay, but I don't like the Introducing Morrissey version (never heard a bootleg of it from the Maladjusted tour so that is the only performance I can judge how it sounds live by). I hope they play it differently, closer to the demo version.

My response to London is....he played it in 95 and 97...I'd rather here You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby or better yet bring back Half A Person

[Kuiper]

My response to London is....he played it in 95 and 97...I'd rather here You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby or better yet bring back Half A Person

I have been listening to You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby a lot lately and was just thinking the same thing. For some reason I feel this current band would pull it off well.

[SNS22]

I have been listening to You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby a lot lately and was just thinking the same thing. For some reason I feel this current band would pull it off well.

my opinion has always been that You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby suffered from Gannonitis....

They decided NOT to release it as a single...because Craig Gannon was involved in the recording of it...

being stuck on the album (World Won't Listen..later Louder Than Bombs)....resulted in less money having to be paid to him...

The song is definitely Underrated and one of my all time Smiths favorites

[Kuiper]

my opinion has always been that You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby suffered from Gannonitis....

They decided NOT to release it as a single...because Craig Gannon was involved in the recording of it...

being stuck on the album (World Won't Listen..later Louder Than Bombs)....resulted in less money having to be paid to him...

The song is definitely Underrated and one of my all time Smiths favorites

I never thought of that. I always just figured they really liked Shoplifters a lot more, because we all know how much Morrissey loves it and Marr has also spoken positively of it. But now that you point that out it seems rational. I agree that it is definitely underrated.

[SNS22]

I never thought of that. I always just figured they really liked Shoplifters a lot more, because we all know how much Morrissey loves it and Marr has also spoken positively of it. But now that you point that out it seems rational. I agree that it is definitely underrated.

It used to be that bands would get royalties from songs being played on the radio...don't know if that's still done (like 8 cents every time or something)...and if Craig played on You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby....they would have been required to split that with him....

[moz'art girl]

WAIT A MINUTE HERE!!!! He plays the piano????? :eek: Why did I not know this?? I read something about this on the main board.....I never knew this! Does he only do it for this song?

What?:eek: And there is no photo of that incredible moment?:eek:

[Puggy]

Source: http://oz.net/~moz/lyrics/strangew/deathofa.htm


An epic song, backed by a laconic bass part, and an outlandish performance from drummer Joyce. Morrissey's cynical lyrics decay into a mad clash of instruments, famously featuring Morrissey's only credit other than words (his piano "playing", i.e. random bashing about on the keys)...

I believe Moz didn't play the piano last night, but I couldn't tell from where I was standing.

[westendgirl]

What?:eek: And there is no photo of that incredible moment?:eek:

I don't think he actually did, then again I am not positive on that assumption!

[SNS22]

I don't think he actually did, then again I am not positive on that assumption!

I bet he Air Pianoed it though....

[sanstitre]

I'd be scared to go to the show in TJ... i dont speak espanoly... maybe some corrupt cops would kidnap me and force me to work the donkey shows. Viva Mexico!

Hey guys I am from tijuana !!
and I have spent all my years here, and let me tell you, that tijuana is not like all the people think, nobody is going to kidnap you and cops are corrupt at any place just don't mess with them, of course they are going to take some teenagers that are causing some problems at the clubs when they drink a lot and they trying to have sex at some clubs or the ladies that take off their clothes and end up at a corner throwing up (I hate the idea of people who thinks tijuana is just sex drugs and alcohol does not true, in all my 30 years nobody has kidnapped me or hurt me..)
there are alot of tourist who come everyday, actually where Morrissey was, is a very famous tourist zone full of restaurants and clubs (here never and will never exist that donkey show that all the people say), the only donkeys I know are the ones where people take pictures wearing a hat.

Talking about the concert was greattt,the place was full, he loves mexicans as he said in an interview I saw at youtube..
That place of the concert is a famous building from here itused to be a place where they play fronton (famous sport from Spain) , now is used for concerts.
in the concert there were a lot of people from the states I should say half of the people was american.

[sanstitre]

Where the hell is this place? I normally park in San Ysidro, and walk across, but really only to the 'pharmacia,' so not too familiar with Ave. Rev. Can you walk there or do you need to take one of the taxis at the bottom of the bridge?


I think the best way to get there if you guys need it in the future is taking those mexicoach that are going to the plaza de las americas, that can take you to the revolution street, because those yellow cabs are soo expensive.

[sanstitre]

Awesome show. Was expecting the same setlist as SD in July, but immediately knew we were in for a special night when London started. Damn, what a wonderful show.

Loved the stage rushers. Loved the comic relief. Loved the setlist. Loved the crowd.

But I'm also embarrased by El Jefe being stopped by the Policia.

Loved when he said that we could see him in "Revolución" selling watermelons, cantaloupes, in a bicycle. haha.

It was so cool how he helped many get on stage. And how he grabbed two letters, and the whole rubbing them in sweat and putting them in his crotch.

This TOTALLY made up for the SD disaster.




at the beginning he said that he speaks española instead of spanish lol not bad he will improve it living in La, something that really surprise me is he wearing a chiva's t- shirt(famous mexican soccer team), that means he loves mexican soccer :D... he throw that one to the people (was signed)
he throw another 3 shirts, and I have a piece of the gray one :D

[vAndreav]

WOW!! What an amazing setlist! I can't believe he played Why Don't You Find Out For Yourself and Billy Budd! Nugzie!!!! You got 2 Vauxhall and I song! ;) :D

And Stretch Out and Wait along with Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before, Death Of A Disco Dancer, AND LONDON!!!! OMG I LOVE LONDON! Incredible!!!!

I loved the videos, and quite like the new song as well!!!!!

I am getting soooooooo excited for the Palladium shows!! Bring it on baby! :D

haha, only ONE week from THIS Monday!!! I'm going to die of anxiety. :eek:

Wow, the TJ show sounds AMAZING. I almost choked on my juice once i saw that Why Don't You Find Out and Stretch out and Wait were on the setlist. I PRAY that he plays one of those at palladium. and a new song! weee!! So glad to hear a variety of songs.

[dislocate my shoulder]

Some impressions from the show, this blog here:
Morrissey @ El Foro, Tijuana 09/20/07 (http://soundsoundsound.blogspot.com/2007/09/morrissey-el-foro-tijuana-092007.html)

[vAndreav]

9 - One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell


to me, from that clip it sounds like jesse wrote that song. eh.

but all those clips were fabulous nonetheless, thank you!!

[Queen Victoria]

Can anybody make out who is on the backdrop this time around?

[sanstitre]

:)http://es.youtube.com/results?search_query=morrissey+tijuana&search=Buscar

some youtube videos of what it was yesterday

[vAndreav]

Can anybody make out who is on the backdrop this time around?

Richard Burton, old Welsh actor.
hehe he was in movie called "Who's Afraid of Virgina Woolf" :p

[Mel_Torment]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1376/1416541070_6acc9ea3a6.jpg

I don't know where she found it, but La Comtesse posted it on the frink thread in general discussion.

[dislocate my shoulder]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1376/1416541070_6acc9ea3a6.jpg

I don't know where she found it, but La Comtesse posted it on the frink thread in general discussion.

Here. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/erks/sets/72157602095241044/)

[sanstitre]

Oh yes Tim Burton he appeared in another famous movie Cleopatra with Elizabeth Taylor, who he got married, maybe he chose that backdrop because he had a house in Mexico

[sanstitre]

before he was on the stage they were playing some videos one of them was Sacha Distel,Ricky Nelson, Brigitte Bardot, James Dean, and the last one was David Johansen smoking pot

[Mel_Torment]

Just some things to add:

Here is a piccy of the venue --
http://www2.gol.com/users/melemail/stuff/ElForo.jpg

I didn't try to smuggle in a camera. I just wanted to enjoy the show. I didn't even take in my mobile phone because I was afraid they might stop me from getting to the barrier by arguing with me that camera phones aren't allowed. Security was very tight. THe guard (female) felt up my boobs and lifted them up. I was wearing a good support bra -- it's not like they're floppy! No, I wasn't wearing the greatest tits shirt, just a modest Fred Perry.

I was rather disappointed that no cheap 'n' cheesy bootleg souvenirs were to be had outside the venue on blankets like in Mexico City 2002. Guess I'll have to make my own. I made some devotional Moz candles in the style Mexicans are fond of -- Santo Morrissey, La Voz Sagrada de Morrissey, and Handsome Devil:
http://www2.gol.com/users/melemail/stuff/mozcandles.jpg

[dislocate my shoulder]

Some tiny silent moments from encore, could be interesting for stage crashers, on youtube here (http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=tonkita).

[joanofarcswalkman]

Oh yes Tim Burton he appeared in another famous movie Cleopatra with Elizabeth Taylor, who he got married, maybe he chose that backdrop because he had a house in Mexico

It's RICHARD Burton , TIM Burton is the man responsible for (the movie)
" A Nightmare Before Christmas "

[sanstitre]

Just some things to add:

Here is a piccy of the venue --
http://www2.gol.com/users/melemail/stuff/ElForo.jpg

I didn't try to smuggle in a camera. I just wanted to enjoy the show. I didn't even take in my mobile phone because I was afraid they might stop me from getting to the barrier by arguing with me that camera phones aren't allowed. Security was very tight. THe guard (female) felt up my boobs and lifted them up. I was wearing a good support bra -- it's not like they're floppy! No, I wasn't wearing the greatest tits shirt, just a modest Fred Perry.

I was rather disappointed that no cheap 'n' cheesy bootleg souvenirs were to be had outside the venue on blankets like in Mexico City 2002. Guess I'll have to make my own. I made some devotional Moz candles in the style Mexicans are fond of -- Santo Morrissey, La Voz Sagrada de Morrissey, and Handsome Devil:
http://www2.gol.com/users/melemail/stuff/mozcandles.jpg


in the ticket you bought it said no cameras allowed, but of course cell phones were, most of the poeple were taking pictures or videos with them, the security inside wasn't like at the entrance ..

[mell]

Just some things to add:

I didn't try to smuggle in a camera. I just wanted to enjoy the show. I didn't even take in my mobile phone because I was afraid they might stop me from getting to the barrier by arguing with me that camera phones aren't allowed. Security was very tight. THe guard (female) felt up my boobs and lifted them up. I was wearing a good support bra -- it's not like they're floppy! No, I wasn't wearing the greatest tits shirt, just a modest Fred Perry.



Haha...same thing for me. I felt like I got a gyno exam and a mammogram from the security lady!!! Good news...no lumps! We tried to sneak in a disposable camera in my friend's purse pocket and they found it and gave us a good lecturing in Spanish. I guess they didn't check the guys' crotches as closely.

Hey Mel, I'm just curious about the Julia thing. Was she there? Moz didn't talk to her or say her name at the show, did he? I had some trouble hearing some of the things he said at times, but I was right behind the people he shoved the mic to when he asked if they knew who the guy was on the background. If Julia had been there I'd figure he have asked her if she knew...

Anyway...Best Show Ever! I loved it!!! Viva Mexico!

[mell]

in the ticket you bought it said no cameras allowed, but of course cell phones were, most of the poeple were taking pictures or videos with them, the security inside wasn't like at the entrance ..

Everyone next to me had regular digital cameras.... :mad:

[sanstitre]

Everyone next to me had regular digital cameras.... :mad:

yeah I hate that too, I didn't bring my camera because of that, and some people were using them :mad:

[no one in particular]

Anyone know or got pics of the new verbiage printed on the drum yet?

[mell]

Anyone know or got pics of the new verbiage printed on the drum yet?

sorry...but it was something very close (if not exact) to what Mel Torment wrote on the main page: "Some of us is getting very nasty"

[no one in particular]

thanks for the "almost validation" of mel's brain-addled remembrance of it! :) [yeah, saw that main page post; just searching for the definitive...]

[titsmcgee]

"some of us is turning nasty"

[Mel_Torment]

Hey Mel, I'm just curious about the Julia thing. Was she there? Moz didn't talk to her or say her name at the show, did he? I had some trouble hearing some of the things he said at times, but I was right behind the people he shoved the mic to when he asked if they knew who the guy was on the background. If Julia had been there I'd figure he have asked her if she knew...

Anyway...Best Show Ever! I loved it!!! Viva Mexico!

Hi, Mell, good to hear that no lumps were found! :p

Contrary to the anonymous rumours, Julia was there. Strangely, she actually stood in the queue in TJ. Lately, she just shows up to the venue a little before doors and someone from Morrissey's staff lets her in early so that she doesn't have to queue. It's not like she stands in the queue all day, though. She just walks to the front of the queue and claims her entitled space. I'm somewhat envious, but I always make it to the front if I bother to queue and she hardly takes up any space. I also have to say that she certainly has put in her time, sleeping out in the cold dark streets like a houseless person for several tours. And it's not like she can't afford a posh hotel! You know it's love and true dedication.

In TJ she was standing to the right of center stage (more on the Mikey Farrell side). He mentioned her name once. Moz hasn't been handing her the mic for a couple of shows. The 2nd time Moz gave me the mic, I realised that Moz didn't give Julia the mic that night -- Myrtle Beach.

[no one in particular]

"some of us is turning nasty"

ok, thanks, and someone now has a pic of it from the Vegas show:
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v126/39/90/811220482/n811220482_1305987_1433.jpg

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

ok, thanks, and someone now has a pic of it from the Vegas show:
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v126/39/90/811220482/n811220482_1305987_1433.jpg

I would like to know who, exactly, is turning nasty, and I would like to watch.

[mell]

Hi, Mell, good to hear that no lumps were found! :p

Contrary to the anonymous rumours, Julia was there. Strangely, she actually stood in the queue in TJ. Lately, she just shows up to the venue a little before doors and someone from Morrissey's staff lets her in early so that she doesn't have to queue. It's not like she stands in the queue all day, though. She just walks to the front of the queue and claims her entitled space. I'm somewhat envious, but I always make it to the front if I bother to queue and she hardly takes up any space. I also have to say that she certainly has put in her time, sleeping out in the cold dark streets like a houseless person for several tours. And it's not like she can't afford a posh hotel! You know it's love and true dedication.

In TJ she was standing to the right of center stage (more on the Mikey Farrell side). He mentioned her name once. Moz hasn't been handing her the mic for a couple of shows. The 2nd time Moz gave me the mic, I realised that Moz didn't give Julia the mic that night -- Myrtle Beach.

Oh I'm definitely envious too, but I'm not a Julia hater at all. If she has the time and the means to do what she does, then good for her!! I wonder if she ever gets tired of it? It requires so much traveling and putting her own life on hold...Moz should just hire her to work in his crew already! haha j/k. I probably didn't help but perpetuate the rumor that she wasn't there...I heard from a guy who said he's met Moz 10x or more and gotten to go backstage, etc. He said Julia wasn't there and he didn't see her in the queue or up at the barrier. And I didn't hear Moz say her name or talk to her like he usually does...then again, I did miss the whole "selling fruits on a bicycle" joke too! *slaps forehead*

[liebe]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1376/1416541070_6acc9ea3a6.jpg

http://www2.gol.com/users/melemail/stuff/mozcandles.jpg
Oooh good choice of background!

And I love those candles... I want one :o

[Puggy]

Here's a video from a local TJ newspaper. Let Me Kiss You and Goodbye, with a "Gracias" at the end.

http://www.frontera.info/Videos/player.asp?numvideo=1940

[dislocate my shoulder]

Here's a video from a local TJ newspaper. Let Me Kiss You and Goodbye, with a "Gracias" at the end.

http://www.frontera.info/Videos/player.asp?numvideo=1940

Works now. Thanks.