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Lifeguard Sleeping
January 23, 1999, 07:33 AM
I can't help but hold dear both the Smiths, as well as Morrissey's "solo" groups. But let's face it, the music created by the Smiths is so different than the music produced throughout Morrissey's solo career, that it would be like comparing apples to oranges.

The Smiths' music was based on 60s pop groups, with the clean, jingly guitars, upbeat hooks and short length. Of course, having said that, I should also mention Johnny's gift for arrangement, layering keyboards and strings to achieve a sound dramatic enough to complement Morrissey's deep lyrics.

On the other hand, the musicians that Morrissey has worked with since, (while being hits and misses) have given him a new sound, entirely. Vini Reilly's guitars created a sort of "alternative" sound (doesn't Viva Hate sound really 80s?) that worked well at the time.

The "lads" who have been with him for the last several years have really created their own awesome type of music. I mean, "Your Arsenal" was such a turning point, musically, for Morrissey, that it influenced his image to suit that whole rockabilly style. The guitars are heavy but still manage to keep that "pop" hook to the songs. They also (especially Alain Whyte) are very diverse in their songwriting, going from "...Someone On Your Side" to "Seasick..." These songs are brilliant in their structure and overall catchiness.

God, I've gone on a bit longer than I expected to, but you get my point - the musical styles are too different to compare them to eachother (not to mention the times).

Fabricio
January 23, 1999, 01:00 PM
yeah! and the diversity makes moz last, as every great singer or group normally lasts when changes its sound from times to times. i'm not sure if johnny marr could make the diversity that moz career need.¿ I can't help but hold dear both the Smiths, as well as¿ Morrissey's "solo" groups. But let's face it, the¿ music created by the Smiths is so different than the music¿ produced throughout Morrissey's solo career, that it would be¿ like comparing apples to oranges.¿ The Smiths' music was based on 60s pop groups, with the clean,¿ jingly guitars, upbeat hooks and short length. Of course, having¿ said that, I should also mention Johnny's gift for arrangement,¿ layering keyboards and strings to achieve a sound dramatic¿ enough to complement Morrissey's deep lyrics.¿ On the other hand, the musicians that Morrissey has worked with¿ since, (while being hits and misses) have given him a new sound,¿ entirely. Vini Reilly's guitars created a sort of¿ "alternative" sound (doesn't Viva Hate sound really¿ 80s?) that worked well at the time.¿ The "lads" who have been with him for the last several¿ years have really created their own awesome type of music. I¿ mean, "Your Arsenal" was such a turning point,¿ musically, for Morrissey, that it influenced his image to suit¿ that whole rockabilly style. The guitars are heavy but still¿ manage to keep that "pop" hook to the songs. They also¿ (especially Alain Whyte) are very diverse in their songwriting,¿ going from "...Someone On Your Side" to¿ "Seasick..." These songs are brilliant in their¿ structure and overall catchiness.¿ God, I've gone on a bit longer than I expected to, but you get¿ my point - the musical styles are too different to compare them¿ to eachother (not to mention the times).

boyleastlikelytoo(kakarot)
January 23, 1999, 03:54 PM
what does johnny marr have to do with anything?

did you just feel like you need to cut the man down?

kakarot

Fabricio
January 23, 1999, 06:45 PM
i didn't understand your question... that's my opinion, i don't have anything with marr have or don't have to do... i just said "i was not so sure" if he could do a diversity in the moz career... but in this phrase is explicit my uncertainty, so i can't want to cut the man down (even if he seems to want cut himself down since the end of the smiths, hehe)¿ what does johnny marr have to do with anything?¿ did you just feel like you need to cut the man down?¿ kakarot