This is how the tickets SHOULD be sold

[Kill All Touts]

OK, we've been here before and will be here again, but with three of the venues for Manchester being small (not the Apollo) here is how the tickets should be sold in an ideal world.

No tickets given out after buying them. No more than two per person.
Each person buying them have to give their name and tickets are then collected at the booking office on the day of the gig. ID (driving licence, passport etc, not some fake thing made in a picture booth) has to be presented when collecting the tickets and then the two of you have to enter the venue straight away.

Sounds extreme, but it simply stops some internet cretin from, say, Swindon, snapping up 6 tickets via an agency and sticking them on ebay within minutes. it also stops the scum bag local touts from buying a shed load of tickets on the day of sale using a bunch of hoodies and selling them on ebay or outside the venue.

Like I said, in an ideal world.... but are promoters and artists concerned about loyal fans? Are they buggery. As long as the venue is sold out they are not bothered what happens to the tickets.
all it takes is a bit of thought and care.

Your thoughts please ladies and gentlemen.......

[where?]

> OK, we've been here before and will be here again, but with three of the
> venues for Manchester being small (not the Apollo) here is how the tickets
> should be sold in an ideal world.

> No tickets given out after buying them. No more than two per person.
> Each person buying them have to give their name and tickets are then
> collected at the booking office on the day of the gig. ID (driving
> licence, passport etc, not some fake thing made in a picture booth) has to
> be presented when collecting the tickets and then the two of you have to
> enter the venue straight away.

> Sounds extreme, but it simply stops some internet cretin from, say,
> Swindon, snapping up 6 tickets via an agency and sticking them on ebay
> within minutes. it also stops the scum bag local touts from buying a shed
> load of tickets on the day of sale using a bunch of hoodies and selling
> them on ebay or outside the venue.

> Like I said, in an ideal world.... but are promoters and artists concerned
> about loyal fans? Are they buggery. As long as the venue is sold out they
> are not bothered what happens to the tickets.
> all it takes is a bit of thought and care.

> Your thoughts please ladies and gentlemen.......

what if people want to buy tickets for their friends.
i'm not a tout but you are a nazi.

[Kill All Touts]

They can buy one ticket for a friend.
Their friends can do the same!
I'm trying to get in as many genuine fans as possible.
It amazes me how here I have put forward an idea - just an idea - to start a bit of a discussion and all you can do is throw obscene insults rather than a add to a decent constructive debate.
That, in my eye, makes you the loser of the debate.

[vulgar]

> OK, we've been here before and will be here again, but with three of the
> venues for Manchester being small (not the Apollo) here is how the tickets
> should be sold in an ideal world.

> No tickets given out after buying them. No more than two per person.
> Each person buying them have to give their name and tickets are then
> collected at the booking office on the day of the gig. ID (driving
> licence, passport etc, not some fake thing made in a picture booth) has to
> be presented when collecting the tickets and then the two of you have to
> enter the venue straight away.

> Sounds extreme, but it simply stops some internet cretin from, say,
> Swindon, snapping up 6 tickets via an agency and sticking them on ebay
> within minutes. it also stops the scum bag local touts from buying a shed
> load of tickets on the day of sale using a bunch of hoodies and selling
> them on ebay or outside the venue.

> Like I said, in an ideal world.... but are promoters and artists concerned
> about loyal fans? Are they buggery. As long as the venue is sold out they
> are not bothered what happens to the tickets.
> all it takes is a bit of thought and care.

> Your thoughts please ladies and gentlemen.......

Sounds like a very good idea to me.

vulgar

[blah]

> They can buy one ticket for a friend.
> Their friends can do the same!
> I'm trying to get in as many genuine fans as possible.
> It amazes me how here I have put forward an idea - just an idea - to start
> a bit of a discussion and all you can do is throw obscene insults rather
> than a add to a decent constructive debate.
> That, in my eye, makes you the loser of the debate.

its because morrissey fans are arseholes!!! well at least half!

[Keely]

I completely agree, touts are the bane of my existance. The weasely little bastards probably don't even like music. Something really does need to be done about them, & i get incresinly annoyed at websites who don't limit the number of tickets people can buy. Double booking should also be banned like you said, it's just not fair to the real music lovers who want to see their favourite bands/artists & don't feel like paying out of their arse to do so just to buy the bastard touts a BMW.

[Gez]

For the U2 tour last year there was a limit of I think 4 tickets per person but they made that limit per the whole tour and not just a specific concert. So if you wanted to see 4 different nights you could only get the tickets for yourself and not your friends. The downside is of course under those circumstances people you know would almost certainly lose out and you would have to organise who bought what nights tickets. I will try to queue at the venues themselves on the day of sale and hope for the best.

[Oprah Winfrey]

they had a similar system set up this year for the premier tickets to bob dylan's NYC shows. tickets were held at the front, and you needed an id to pick them up and were then escorted directly into the theater. with an effecient staff at the venue, this works very well...

[please]

> For the U2 tour last year there was a limit of I think 4 tickets per
> person but they made that limit per the whole tour and not just a specific
> concert. So if you wanted to see 4 different nights you could only get the
> tickets for yourself and not your friends. The downside is of course under
> those circumstances people you know would almost certainly lose out and
> you would have to organise who bought what nights tickets. I will try to
> queue at the venues themselves on the day of sale and hope for the best.
The police should have limited to one per person for the sake of human kind

[LFC]

Julia Riley should pick the front row.

Oh sorry, is that old news.

[LFC]

cold..

I may even be inside listening to the sound check while all the tossers paying for my privilege wait at the door.

I just might.

Then again, I would rather not show up at all, knowing the shit that follows him.