c86 revisited

[Uncleskinny]

Remember c86, the NME's tape of hopefuls?

What were the highlights?

Well, for me Bogshed, Big Flame, The Wedding Present and The Wolfhounds.

And their best?

Respectively Morning Sir/Tried And Tested Public Speaker; anything from Rigour, especially Sink; Everyone Thinks He Looks Daft, Kennedy, Brassneck; and finally, but by no means least, the utterly majestic Rent Act by the criminally under-rated Wolfhounds.

Any other highlights?

Sk.

[Bluenose]

I'm afraid I was reading Smash Hits in 1986, Unc. Weren't The Primitives part of that C86 "movement"?

> Remember c86, the NME's tape of hopefuls?

> What were the highlights?

> Well, for me Bogshed, Big Flame, The Wedding Present and The Wolfhounds.

> And their best?

> Respectively Morning Sir/Tried And Tested Public Speaker; anything from
> Rigour, especially Sink; Everyone Thinks He Looks Daft, Kennedy,
> Brassneck; and finally, but by no means least, the utterly majestic Rent
> Act by the criminally under-rated Wolfhounds.

> Any other highlights?

> Sk.

[Almodis]

> Remember c86, the NME's tape of hopefuls?

> What were the highlights?

A bit of an obvious/populist answer I know, but I still love Primal Scream although of course they've become barely recognisable from their C86 selves.

[Uncleskinny]

> I'm afraid I was reading Smash Hits in 1986, Unc. Weren't The Primitives
> part of that C86 "movement"?

I don't think so, that may have been a touch later, although I do remember seeig some photo-shoot pics of Moz wearing a Primitives' 'Stop Killing Me' t-shirt, in the Craig Gannon days.

Slightly after the NME ran a front cover showing three hopes for the future; Miles Hunt of The Wonderstuff, Andrea Lewis of The Darling Buds and Guy Chambers of The House Of Love. Right there then, eh?

Sk.

[Almodis]

Re:

Slightly after the NME ran a front cover showing three hopes for the future; Miles Hunt of The Wonderstuff, Andrea Lewis of The Darling Buds and Guy Chambers of The House Of Love. Right there then, eh?

Guy Chadwick, no ?

[Uncleskinny]

> Re:

> Slightly after the NME ran a front cover showing three hopes for the
> future; Miles Hunt of The Wonderstuff, Andrea Lewis of The Darling Buds
> and Guy Chambers of The House Of Love. Right there then, eh?

> Guy Chadwick, no ?

You are dead right, I was typing too fast - Guy Chambers is the twat who wrote Robbie Willimas' stuff. Velly many apologies.

Sk.

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[Bluenose]

I've got a tape of their earlier stuff (includes my fave 'Really Stupid') which includes songs from 1986, so ner ner I thought they were heralded on that C86 tape.

> I don't think so, that may have been a touch later, although I do remember
> seeig some photo-shoot pics of Moz wearing a Primitives' 'Stop Killing Me'
> t-shirt, in the Craig Gannon days.

> Slightly after the NME ran a front cover showing three hopes for the
> future; Miles Hunt of The Wonderstuff, Andrea Lewis of The Darling Buds
> and Guy Chambers of The House Of Love. Right there then, eh?

> Sk.

[Uncleskinny]

> I've got a tape of their earlier stuff (includes my fave 'Really Stupid')
> which includes songs from 1986, so ner ner I thought they were heralded
> on that C86 tape.

Well, the splendid Wolfhounds have put the full list on their website - http://www.thewolfhounds.co.uk

Sithee,

Sk.

[Librarian on Fire]

> Any other highlights?

The very best C86 band would have to be the Close Lobsters, who do feature on that compilation album. My fave song on C86 is (and it pains me to admit it) is the early Primal Scream. "Velocity Girl" is pop perfection. Coming in under two minutes. If it can't be said in under three minutes it's too long. The song is perfect to crank up very loudly and sing. Of course with it being so short you have to up and put the needle back. (Stylus if you prefer) I love the line in the song "my friends have all gone and left me now I don't care at all, leave me alone". Perfect to sing to when feeling a tad 'f offed with the world. And "here she comes again with vodka in her veins". They don't write them like they used to.

The Primitves and the Darling Buds weren't true C86 bands. They were lumped together as a movement called "Blonde" The wonderful writer of Melody Maker Chris Roberts most likely coined that phrase. I have this great video concert of the Darling Buds performing on a UK tv show. They play about five songs. Andrea comes on with two tambourines. Phew. I wrote to the Darling Buds fanclub once. It was near the end of their career. Typical.

Of course don't forget the might Shop Assistants as well. There's a few of us on this board who are huge C86 fans.

[Tingle]

Oh yes, but I missed the C86 tape because I didn't buy the music papers. Which month did it come out (anyone?). 1986 was the year I left home. Comfortingly, at the campus where I then moved to The Shop Assistants and Primal Scream played. Bobby Gillispie was all over the place. Did someone mention the Bodines?
My other favourites were the Potato Five. I have catholic tastes. To be purist about these things, The House of Love were making their name a little later - er, what, 1988, and tipped as the next big thing in 1989? I think that's when 'Destroy the Heart' made the top of Peel's festive Fifty. Anyone hear the Festive Fifty this Christmas?

> The very best C86 band would have to be the Close Lobsters, who do feature
> on that compilation album. My fave song on C86 is (and it pains me to
> admit it) is the early Primal Scream. "Velocity Girl" is pop
> perfection. Coming in under two minutes. If it can't be said in under
> three minutes it's too long. The song is perfect to crank up very loudly
> and sing. Of course with it being so short you have to up and put the
> needle back. (Stylus if you prefer) I love the line in the song "my
> friends have all gone and left me now I don't care at all, leave me
> alone". Perfect to sing to when feeling a tad 'f offed with the
> world. And "here she comes again with vodka in her veins". They
> don't write them like they used to.

> The Primitves and the Darling Buds weren't true C86 bands. They were
> lumped together as a movement called "Blonde" The wonderful
> writer of Melody Maker Chris Roberts most likely coined that phrase. I
> have this great video concert of the Darling Buds performing on a UK tv
> show. They play about five songs. Andrea comes on with two tambourines.
> Phew. I wrote to the Darling Buds fanclub once. It was near the end of
> their career. Typical.

> Of course don't forget the might Shop Assistants as well. There's a few of
> us on this board who are huge C86 fans.

[Brel]

[The Magic Fairy]

I just missed the C86 / shambling / twee explosion, but I caught the ripples as they reached the edge of the pond. I like the stuff retrospectively... but one thing I'd say is that the "indie" music of this period sounds very primitive compared to what bands can come up with today. It could be something to do with technology being cheaper and better these days, but I think that the spirit of DIY pop blossomed back then. As long as you knew two chords you could write a song... three chords and you had a whole album!

TMF