Viva Hate (2012 Remaster) request

[Cripple Pea]

I'm not gonna buy Viva Hate for a fifth time. So, if anyone is kind enough to leak this album, thank you.

[Uncleskinny]

Not good etiquette. Good luck though.

P.

[Stefan Krix]

Well said Peter.

[stux]

I can see your point but people have invested their time and effort into this release.

If you want it you should buy it.

[Anonymous]

I can see your point but people have invested their time and effort into this release.

If you want it you should buy it.

yeah all 30 seconds of it.

[skintwinkie]

I will no way, be purchasing this re-issue, I love Viva Hate as it is, I am curious to hear the "butchered" Late Night, Maudlin Street. Can someone post in on youtube?

[DAVIE]

I personally hope it absolutely fails. I don't mean that as horrible spite against Morrissey, I mean it against this particular re-release. It simply doesn't need to be remastered. If it had Wolverhampton 88 in CD/DVD format or a bonus CD of previously unheard demos, then of cause...everyone would be buying. But sadly, there is just nothing new to be heard and it's been re-released too many times now and simply nobody seems to care now. None of his normals fans do, apart from the obvious collectors or extremists. Whenever I hear about this release a massive £ sign appears in my mind!

[nothappynotsad]

I own this album on vinyl, CD, reissued/expanded CD, and iTunes lossless. Releasing this album again and expecting people to dish out cash for it is too much to ask of the fans. Would I love to hear it? Yes. Will I buy it? No.

[Flax]

I own this album on vinyl, CD, reissued/expanded CD, and iTunes lossless. Releasing this album again and expecting people to dish out cash for it is too much to ask of the fans. Would I love to hear it? Yes. Will I buy it? No.

Did he actually ask anyone to buy it?
So far, I've only seen his website saying the record is available and you can buy it. Not that you must buy it.

[Skylarker]

I own this album on vinyl, CD, reissued/expanded CD, and iTunes lossless. Releasing this album again and expecting people to dish out cash for it is too much to ask of the fans. Would I love to hear it? Yes. Will I buy it? No.

Couldn't agree more.



Did he actually ask anyone to buy it?
So far, I've only seen his website saying the record is available and you can buy it. Not that you must buy it.

So you're implying that the lack of an explicit, spelled-out, official mandate from Morrissey to his fans to buy the reissue implies that the record was released for no other reason than a lark on Morrissey's part, whimsically and with no substantial expectation on his part that his fanbase shell out another 20 dollars for a moderately retooled version of a record they already own several times over?

[Anonymous]

Did he actually ask anyone to buy it?
So far, I've only seen his website saying the record is available and you can buy it. Not that you must buy it.

Wow that is one stupid point you made right there. Where has anyone complained about being forced to buy the album? Ridiculous. If he doesn't expect us to buy it why release it? I've heard this "point" before about 'not being forced to buy anything'. Was dumb then and still dumb now.

[nothappynotsad]

So you're implying that the lack of an explicit, spelled-out, official mandate from Morrissey to his fans to buy the reissue implies that the record was released for no other reason than a lark on Morrissey's part, whimsically and with no substantial expectation on his part that his fanbase shell out another 20 dollars for a moderately retooled version of a record they already own several times over?

Perhaps Flax expects one of Morrissey's True To You mandates to let him know Morrissey currently wants his money for a product he's released...you know, like all those he's issued letting you know NOT to spend money on because he doesn't collect royalties from them.

[Thesmithsmorrissey]

Whoever's idea it was to let the Anonymous post in the forums is fucking genius

[Anonymous Bosch]

Whoever's idea it was to let the Anonymous post in the forums is fucking genius

I wholeheartedly concur, my good fellow.

[Death Disco]

If you don't want it, don't buy it. Just stop complaining.

Those who come begging on here for download links to commercially available stuff - how fucking cheap are you?! What have the recent re-issues cost, about £10 each? Hardly breaking the bank.

[Kewpie]

If you don't want it, don't buy it. Just stop complaining.

Those who come begging on here for download links to commercially available stuff - how fucking cheap are you?! What have the recent re-issues cost, about £10 each? Hardly breaking the bank.

I disagree with 99% of posts of Death Disco, but this one I totally agree.

[Death Disco]

I disagree with 99% of posts of Death Disco, but this one I totally agree.

You couldn't just say "I agree with this", you had to slip an insult/dig in there. Agree with me or not, how about you just put me on ignore and never speak to me again. I'm more than happy to do the same to you.

[Anonymous]

You two should get a room, seriously :)

[Death Disco]

You two should get a room, seriously :)

I'd be up for that -- a room on the 25th floor, with a balcony, no safety rail. "She fell, officer... and she ordered an awful lot of explicit pay-per-view porn beforehand".

[Skylarker]

I'd be up for that -- a room on the 25th floor, with a balcony, no safety rail. "She fell, officer... and she ordered an awful lot of explicit pay-per-view porn beforehand".

:lbf::thumb:

Best post all year.

[JMozza34]

I look at it this way, the money he makes from these re-issues is what's helping him self finance these tours. He still has no label support, so in a way, though he's stated he's not too keen on DIY, he is in fact doing it himeself. Yes it's quite a shame the album had to be reissued again, but I'll support him so maybe he'll break down and maybe release an album DIY too.

[Death Disco]

:lbf::thumb:

Best post all year.

Thank you. Thank you very much.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8awS9E_-V6w/TTE2bBTlluI/AAAAAAAAABs/K-hvrTRnG0s/s1600/FatEI.jpg

[Anonymous]

You couldn't just say "I agree with this", you had to slip an insult/dig in there. Agree with me or not, how about you just put me on ignore and never speak to me again. I'm more than happy to do the same to you.

Awwwww ... diddums. Dry your eyes, for God's sake.

And stop trying to be funny; you're shit at it.

[nothappynotsad]

Anyway.

Back to the subject at hand.

Anyone at least have the edited version of "Late Night, Maudlin Street" they'd like to share?

[Death Disco]

Awwwww ... diddums. Dry your eyes, for God's sake.

And stop trying to be funny; you're shit at it.

I'm shit at trying to be funny? I never realised. I'll stop then. Thanks for the advice.

[Anonymous]

Anyway.

Back to the subject at hand.

Anyone at least have the edited version of "Late Night, Maudlin Street" they'd like to share?

It's on Spotify.

[nothappynotsad]

It's on Spotify.

Not in the US.

[mcrickson]

Not in the US.

I keep waiting for it to pop up on youtube, but it never does.

[Anonymous]

Not in the US.

Oh dear. Well, you're not missing anything. It's just had the intro excised and it fades out quite abruptly, just after the "wherever you are" line (about 6:50 into the proper version). The change definitely isn't as dramatic as Stephen Street makes it sound in his recent interviews - it certainly isn't 'butchered', but equally, it's pretty hard to fathom the logic at work here.

The replacement of "The Ordinary Boys" with a truly shitty-sounding demo of a not-very-good song stands out like a sore thumb in the running-order, though.

[Dave2006]

Oh dear. Well, you're not missing anything. It's just had the intro excised and it fades out quite abruptly, just after the "wherever you are" line (about 6:50 into the proper version). The change definitely isn't as dramatic as Stephen Street makes it sound in his recent interviews - it certainly isn't 'butchered', but equally, it's pretty hard to fathom the logic at work here.

The replacement of "The Ordinary Boys" with a truly shitty-sounding demo of a not-very-good song stands out like a sore thumb in the running-order, though.

This is the reason why I (and seemingly thousands of others) refused to buy it.


Dave

[nothappynotsad]

This is the reason why I (and seemingly thousands of others) refused to buy it.


Dave

You know something must sell poorly if NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON leaks it.

[Skylarker]

You know something must sell poorly if NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON leaks it.

I even tried to buy it on iTunes this morning; it's not even on there.

[nothappynotsad]

I even tried to buy it on iTunes this morning; it's not even on there.

Yeah, I tried to buy it too but it is only available in Europe digitally. Viva was going to order it from Amazon as an import until he saw it was $30 bucks and he said "fuck that shit."

[Skylarker]

Maybe this will tell Morrissey something.

Not that he will care. After all, the lack of sales only makes him feel more avant garde. The poor dumb masses don't buy it because they just don't understand.

[Dave2006]

I'll donate £10 to the Vegetarian Society (http://www.vegsoc.org/page.aspx?pid=578), or PETA (http://www.peta.org.uk/donate/)if someone will upload it - I'm buggered if Morrissey, or his label, is getting my money for this toss, but at least a good cause could benefit.

Anyone?

Dave

[nothappynotsad]

Maybe this will tell Morrissey something.

Not that he will care. After all, the lack of sales only makes him feel more avant garde. The poor dumb masses don't buy it because they just don't understand.

Yet they understood in 1988 when it was fresh, new, and relevant. Sadly, Morrissey has failed to be any of these 3 things since 2004. Perhaps it is he who does not understand anymore...understand how to make good music, that is.

[nothappynotsad]

I'll donate £10 to the Vegetarian Society (http://www.vegsoc.org/page.aspx?pid=578), or PETA (http://www.peta.org.uk/donate/)if someone will upload it - I'm buggered if Morrissey, or his label, is getting my money for this toss, but at least a good cause could benefit.

Anyone?

Dave

That is actually a good idea. I'll match that if anyone leaks it (preferably a FLAC version)!

[Skylarker]

Yet they understood in 1988 when it was fresh, new, and relevant.

Ha, yeah.


Sadly, Morrissey has failed to be any of these 3 things since 2004. Perhaps it is he who does not understand anymore...understand how to make good music, that is.

I'd highly rate a few things of his since 2004; but for the most part yeah, I have to agree with you.

Things certainly are grim these days. Why did he have to be so goddamn brilliant for so long...it would have been much easier to let him go if he'd started this crap sooner.

Oh well.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgskpaYryJ1qzdstpo1_500.jpg

[Irregular Regular]

Anyway.

Back to the subject at hand.

Anyone at least have the edited version of "Late Night, Maudlin Street" they'd like to share?

Here you go Lindsey (no donations required). ;)


http://youtu.be/_4Zf23KTI4M

[Skylarker]

Here you go Lindsey (no donations required). ;)


http://youtu.be/_4Zf23KTI4M

I kind of like this edit! Thank you for sharing this.

[nothappynotsad]

Here you go Lindsey (no donations required). ;)


http://youtu.be/_4Zf23KTI4M

Bless you, sir. Many thanks.

[Dave2006]

Here you go Lindsey (no donations required). ;)


http://youtu.be/_4Zf23KTI4M

Doubly glad I've not bought it now - clipping the end is a fucking travesty - its is some of Vini Reilly's best work

Dave

[Irregular Regular]

Doubly glad I've not bought it now - clipping the end is a fucking travesty - its is some of Vini Reilly's best work

Dave

You don't need to justify this anymore Dave (to anybody here, or more importantly, to yourself). We've heard you loud and clear, you don't like this re-release.

[Dave2006]

You don't need to justify this anymore Dave (to anybody here, or more importantly, to yourself). We've heard you loud and clear, you don't like this re-release.

I'd still like to hear what Stephen Street did with the rest of the album... there's a donation to charity in it... given the news that two, possibly three, horses have been destroyed at the Grand National it might need to be the League Against Cruel Sports (http://www.league.org.uk/content/308/Donate)

Dave

[Skylarker]

I appreciate the gay 80s fake drums being chopped off the beginning; and the fade at the end is nowhere near as horrific as Street made it sound. We lose the "I hope you're singing now" part which in retrospect was a little too maudlin, no pun intended. This "less is more" approach to both the music and the lyrics...yeah, I actually kind of like it.

There is still no justification for taking off The Ordinary Boys, though.

[billybu69]

I'd still like to hear what Stephen Street did with the rest of the album... there's a donation to charity in it... given the news that two, possibly three, horses have been destroyed at the Grand National it might need to be the League Against Cruel Sports (http://www.league.org.uk/content/308/Donate)

Dave

Oh Dave stop doing this to yourself go and buy it.

[mcrickson]

So, can we safely assume that whomever this song is written about, Morrissey no longer wishes that said person is still singing?

[nothappynotsad]

So, can we safely assume that whomever this song is written about, Morrissey no longer wishes that said person is still singing?

Yeah, I think Moz must have heard 'Boomslang'...

[mcrickson]

Yeah, I think Moz must have heard 'Boomslang'...

Hey, at least the vocals were better than the lyrics.

[Dave2006]

Oh Dave stop doing this to yourself go and buy it.

I picked it up in HMV on Wednesday... and put it back again. Bought Weller instead and the reissues of Elbow's Leader's of the Free World and Cast of Thousands (proper reissues, with bonus CD and DVDs)

I have to admit though, I've been tempted by the promo that doesn't have the text over the image...

Dave

[Giselle]

Here you go Lindsey (no donations required). ;)


http://youtu.be/_4Zf23KTI4M

Many thanks to you for uploading this! It wasn't nearly as bad as I had feared it would have been.

[skintwinkie]

horrible, I love the "i hope your singing now" bit and Vinni's guitar work and the live drums at the end. What a mess, I do remember him singing this song live early in the 2000's and he always ended on the "Truly I Do Love You" line. What's his problem? Thank God Johnny Marr oversaw the Smiths remasters, can you immagine what Moz The Buthcher would have cut out of those songs. Moz The Butcher, nice title for a vegetarian. If he is going to butcher his songs I am gladly going to continue eating Chicken and Fish like a savage, no Beef or pork for me ever though, BLAH

[billybu69]

I picked it up in HMV on Wednesday... and put it back again. Bought Weller instead and the reissues of Elbow's Leader's of the Free World and Cast of Thousands (proper reissues, with bonus CD and DVDs)

I have to admit though, I've been tempted by the promo that doesn't have the text over the image...

Dave


I'm guessing you'd have regretted weller within twenty minutes of putting it on.

[ACrackOnTheHead]

Well, I brought it today at HMV. It's my first Morrissey album i've brought properly (I've got Bona Drag on iTunes) and i've never listened to the album before (I've heard Everyday Is Like Sunday and Suedehead though, of course) and I'm going to listen to it when I go to bed. The presentation is lovely, though the booklet could have been more substantial. It's more meaningful though by being short and snappy. From what I hear the album is the cream of the crop. I read about the new changes and despite not even having listened to the songs yet, i've brought the original Late Night, Maudlin Street on iTunes and put that on the album on iTunes instead of the edited version and added The Ordinary Boys to the album (Though retaining Treat Me Like A Human Being.) Sad to see all the moaning. You are all Moz fans. You've all got the original versions of Maudlin Street and The Ordinary Boys anyway. This remaster is offering something new. It's not deleting the original off the map. The original is there if you want it. Remember, you don't HAVE to buy the remaster!

[Anonymous]

This remaster is offering something new.

No, it isn't. Not even cowbell.

[!Viva Hate! (Remastered)]

Well, I brought it today at HMV. It's my first Morrissey album i've brought properly (I've got Bona Drag on iTunes) and i've never listened to the album before (I've heard Everyday Is Like Sunday and Suedehead though, of course) and I'm going to listen to it when I go to bed. The presentation is lovely, though the booklet could have been more substantial. It's more meaningful though by being short and snappy. From what I hear the album is the cream of the crop. I read about the new changes and despite not even having listened to the songs yet, i've brought the original Late Night, Maudlin Street on iTunes and put that on the album on iTunes instead of the edited version and added The Ordinary Boys to the album (Though retaining Treat Me Like A Human Being.) Sad to see all the moaning. You are all Moz fans. You've all got the original versions of Maudlin Street and The Ordinary Boys anyway. This remaster is offering something new. It's not deleting the original off the map. The original is there if you want it. Remember, you don't HAVE to buy the remaster!

Right...and we REALLY wouldn't HAVE to buy the album if you would just shut up and leak it already...

[Anonymous]

So Morrissey does not now think about ordinary boy's and does not care if the person he sang "I hope your singing now" to is not singing, the presentation of this reissue makes you question why he bothered pouring over and being precious about all those past sleeves and making all those notes for Joe Slee to make things just the way he wanted them.

Maybe it was all a con in the first place, maybe he was not true to his fans when he lords us for being "amazing" (is it just me or does he come across as a person trapped and angry in every interview since Southpaw), please refer to the Sparks remix and the flurry of multiple formats he is flogging then distancing himself from, he has a real cheek to talk about animal cruelty when his recent plundering of his back catalogue is akin to creative cruelty (Morrissey your fans are not your pets, dogs are the most forgiving pets, a bad owner can beat them but a dog will still love the owner but your fans remember when you were productive and we will remember this string of kicks, what's next anyone up for a reissue of Vauxhall And I with a 38 minute loop of Moonriver shat allover the middle of it?). My though is his mind is on other things...he may have lost his virginity to that bald guitarist with the spray on hair that he looks at "longingly" (YAWN!) on stage.

It would make you think he is trying to degrade his oldest work so it sounds as bad as his latest work, just a thought.

[Skylarker]

I'm guessing you'd have regretted weller within twenty minutes of putting it on.

Sonik Kicks? Yeah it didn't do much for me either.

[Tom]

I finally got a hold of the remaster today (much against my desire to resist it) and I have to say, aside from the facts that one song was removed in favor of a lousy sounding demo and another was poorly edited (hacked), I was pleasantly surprised with how it sounded. It's not overly loud as remasters can tend to sound and everything is nicely separated. I even heard a few odd sounds that I never noticed before. Unlike the 2010 Bona Drag remaster, each track doesn't cut off abruptly and crossfade awkwardly with the next track. This has the proper pauses in between tracks so the songs have room to breathe.

However, the two major issues with this release cannot be ignored and the album as a whole is unlistenable in its current version. I wanted to be able to enjoy Stephen Street's remastering, so I decided to make a hybrid version of Viva Hate using the remaster and the 1997 EMI reissue (which sounds excellent). I used the latter for "The Ordinary Boys" and promptly deleted "Treat Me Like A Human Being". I also edited together a new version of "Late Night, Maudlin Street", restoring the complete version in Adobe Audition using the cut elements from the 1997 release. I had to boost the levels of the 1997 CD slightly in order to match the remastered version. The result is flawless and I'm very happy with how it turned out. What's left is an ideal remaster of Viva Hate, the way it should be heard (and with the original artwork). I recommend this process for those who are dismayed with this new release. Although purchasing this release may go against your better judgement, it's worth it knowing it is possible to restore the album as a digital copy. Just be sure to use the 1997 edition for "The Ordinary Boys" as it's superior sounding to the original release and matches the levels of the remaster better.

I'll offer my restored "Late Night, Maudlin Street" to anyone who wants it, just shoot me a PM. All I ask is that you promise not to upload it publicly. I'm not normally cool with sharing official releases, but this is a very unique case and obviously not everyone can seamlessly blend two tracks.

[ItalianCousin]

http://youtu.be/_4Zf23KTI4M

The remastering sounds very good, but the editing is an abomination.

[Dave2006]

I'm guessing you'd have regretted weller within twenty minutes of putting it on.

About 19 mins longer than it took you to regret buying VH2012 :lbf::lbf::lbf: But yes, you know me better than I know myself sometimes.


Sonik Kicks? Yeah it didn't do much for me either.

I'm pretty sure that I have all of Weller's albums in my collection, and, to be honest, the last few kind of blend into obscurity for me. I love his voice and the energy he puts into his music, but to be honest, I don't think I could name a song off the last few albums, let alone sing along.

Dave

[ACrackOnTheHead]

No, it isn't. Not even cowbell.

A new edit, A new addition to the album (Heard before, but not on this album), a new remaster of all the tracks, the redesigned packaging. Yes, maybe that's not very much but for a first time listener of the album, it all sounds fine.


Right...and we REALLY wouldn't HAVE to buy the album if you would just shut up and leak it already...

Me? I'm not a person who leaks things. This thread seems to have become just a general thread on the Viva Hate remaster so I just thought i'd add my opinion. Don't have a go at me for doing what everybody else is!

[DAVIE]

Has it even charted at all? We should name this the Worst re-release in Morrissey history.

[Skylarker]

Me? I'm not a person who leaks things.

I am. The doctor gave me a two-week prescription but so far it hasn't cleared up. Burns a lot, too.

I knew that chick looked sketchy but man, what a butt.

[Anonymous]

Will someone hurry up and upload this remaster already? If not then I'll buy the messed up job of an album for the sole purpose of distributing it for free.

[nothappynotsad]

Has it even charted at all? We should name this the Worst re-release in Morrissey history.

I have a feeling if he keeps this up, that honor will change before year's end.

[ItalianCousin]

We should name this the Worst re-release in Morrissey history.

Actually, it's an hard choice

[Ryan.]

Got mine today. PM me if anyone needs anything.

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...also finally got this since looking for it since 2006!


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[Ryan.]

Hmm.. I hear a couple of "pop" sounds in Break Up The Family. Are they intentional or not? I ripped the CD with Exact Audio Copy and no other tracks have any issues. Weird...

Anyway, I don't plan on listening to this version that often when the original is right there.


edit: re-ripped it and they're still there. Whatevs.

[Tom]

Can you be more specific? I don't hear any issues with Break Up The Family.

[Ryan.]

Can you be more specific? I don't hear any issues with Break Up The Family.

Check out the 45 second mark. The same sound can be heard a little later on too.

That seems to be the only track with the issue after ripping it. If your copy is fine I'd appreciate if you could send me a VBR mp3 of the track without those glitches.

Here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/rz03wr

[Tom]

Yeah, I definitely hear the click in your version... that's very odd. Is it on the actual CD when you play it normally? I just played my copy on studio quality headphones and it sounds perfect. I ripped with EAC as well. I sent you a PM with a link.

[Ryan.]

Many thanks!

[Vauxhall95]

I have it. I listened to "Late Night, Mauldin Street" and the abbreviated ending is beyond absurd. If the song is already hovering at the 7 minute mark, what was the rationale for fading out the ending after the last verse? Just bizarre.

If you're interested, PM me. I'll send you a link you can download it.

A few caveats (I'm not going to pretend I'm any Saint); however, I have purchased this album four times already: on cassette, CD, CD 1997 Reissue, and ITunes. If you are in a similar boat, feel free to PM me.

If you've never bought the album, please do. Don't repost MY link to a public forum.

[Skylarker]

I have it. I listened to "Late Night, Mauldin Street" and the abbreviated ending is beyond absurd. If the song is already hovering at the 7 minute mark, what was the rationale for fading out the ending after the last verse? Just bizarre.

If you're interested, PM me. I'll send you a link you can download it.

A few caveats (I'm not going to pretend I'm any Saint); however, I have purchased this album four times already: on cassette, CD, CD 1997 Reissue, and ITunes. If you are in a similar boat, feel free to PM me.

If you've never bought the album, please do. Don't repost MY link to a public forum.

Hey- great to see you around here again. Your posts are missed.

[Vauxhall95]

Nice to see you as well. There has been a dearth of activity. I've always loved Moz for his albums. So, I sit and wait.

I just couldn't bring myself to purchase VH again. As I mentioned, I have it on cassette tape, CD, the 1997 CD Reissue, and ITunes. If a modicum of effort had gone into making this an interesting release, I would have found a way to purchase it (things are really tight); but this release defies logic. I'm glad Stephen Street punched up the tunes, but I can't envisioning paying $15 for an import CD for the pleasure.

I've been alright with the idea of Morrissey re-releasing his works in the manner in which they were intended (Southpaw, Maladjusted, and Bona Drag). But this latest release really makes no sense. If he wants to take Ordinary Boys off, I'm fine with that - but why replace it with a demo? If he felt so strongly, he should have just left Ordinary Boys off period. No replacement.

The truncated "Late Night" is also bizarre. How about truncating the ending to "Wide to Receive" first before we mess with a classic?!

Cheers! Nice to hear from you again.

[123xyz]

Thanks for uploading the abbreviated version of "Late Night". The chopped ending really doesn't make much sense to me - I think its abruptness detracts from the gentle melancholy of the original.

[Ryan.]

Nice to see you as well. There has been a dearth of activity. I've always loved Moz for his albums. So, I sit and wait.

I just couldn't bring myself to purchase VH again. As I mentioned, I have it on cassette tape, CD, the 1997 CD Reissue, and ITunes. If a modicum of effort had gone into making this an interesting release, I would have found a way to purchase it (things are really tight); but this release defies logic. I'm glad Stephen Street punched up the tunes, but I can't envisioning paying $15 for an import CD for the pleasure.

I've been alright with the idea of Morrissey re-releasing his works in the manner in which they were intended (Southpaw, Maladjusted, and Bona Drag). But this latest release really makes no sense. If he wants to take Ordinary Boys off, I'm fine with that - but why replace it with a demo? If he felt so strongly, he should have just left Ordinary Boys off period. No replacement.

The truncated "Late Night" is also bizarre. How about truncating the ending to "Wide to Receive" first before we mess with a classic?!

Cheers! Nice to hear from you again.

Moz gone mad, tbh.

[Ryan.]

Ok, have re-re-bought this from iTunes. Converted from iTunes format to 320kbps mp3. PM if you need it. This one is finally error and pop/skip free.

[Vauxhall95]

Nice to see you as well. There has been a dearth of activity. I've always loved Moz for his albums. So, I sit and wait.

I just couldn't bring myself to purchase VH again. As I mentioned, I have it on cassette tape, CD, the 1997 CD Reissue, and ITunes. If a modicum of effort had gone into making this an interesting release, I would have found a way to purchase it (things are really tight); but this release defies logic. I'm glad Stephen Street punched up the tunes, but I can't envisioning paying $15 for an import CD for the pleasure.

I've been alright with the idea of Morrissey re-releasing his works in the manner in which they were intended (Southpaw, Maladjusted, and Bona Drag). But this latest release really makes no sense. If he wants to take Ordinary Boys off, I'm fine with that - but why replace it with a demo? If he felt so strongly, he should have just left Ordinary Boys off period. No replacement.

The truncated "Late Night" is also bizarre. How about truncating the ending to "Wide to Receive" first before we mess with a classic?!

Cheers! Nice to hear from you again.

Anyone have the new Suedehead remix and willing to share?

[sdsuedehead]

the Suedehead Sparks Remix isn't new...It was first released on the comp Future Retro a few years ago....the download link still works...http://www.mediafire.com/?2p2rkcjzm4g

[nothappynotsad]

the Suedehead Sparks Remix isn't new...It was first released on the comp Future Retro a few years ago....the download link still works...http://www.mediafire.com/?2p2rkcjzm4g

The "Mael Mix" is an edit of the "Sparks Mix". One is three and a half minutes while the other is over six. Either way, both suck.

[Skylarker]

The "Mael Mix" is an edit of the "Sparks Mix". One is three and a half minutes while the other is over six. Either way, both suck.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Remix, shmemix.

As great as Mael is, the idea of a dance remix being done to any Morrissey song is an abortion of good taste.

The 30 year old Morrissey is turning in his grave.

[FROSTY]

As stated 1000 times I concur... wow 'Treat me like a human being' stands out like a sore thumb... the edits are odd as well... its not like there is not room for more on a disc... oh well... ~Frost

[123xyz]

Just to carry on from Skylarker's and nothappynotsad's comments ( in this instance) , the Sparks mix is, I feel , of novelty value only. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of tune/melody involved. The only interest for me was hearing the separate vocal track mixed into different instrumental tracks.

I actually did enjoy both Morrissey's and Spark's version of " Moon over Kentucky" (which, perhaps oddly enough, strongly reminded me of Breece D'J Pancake's short stories) , but the "Suedehead" remix really wasn't worth the six and a half minutes ....

[Ronifahz]

I'm excited about this release. If it was in a music store down the street i'd go snatch it up in a heartbeat. lol I'm new here so i just wanted to give my 2 cents worth. I'll buy it one day when it becomes more affordable for my bad income. It's just too much on Amazon at the moment as an import for me. Just for the booklet alone. I totally love this man and adore everything he does. I guess i always will he's gotten me through some trying times in my life with his music. I really hope he releases some new material in the near future.

[a rejected soul]

OMG, I am going to make SO many Techno remixes of this song now.




I stumbled upon a download for the unmixed tracks for the Peter Gabriel song, Shock The Monkey once... wish I knew what I did with those.

[nothappynotsad]

OMG, I am going to make SO many Techno remixes of this song now.

Please don't.


I stumbled upon a download for the unmixed tracks for the Peter Gabriel song, Shock The Monkey once... wish I knew what I did with those.

Single edit or album version?