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MORRIZSEY
March 25, 2012, 10:07 PM
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Anonymous
March 25, 2012, 10:28 PM
the sample clip shows treat me like a human being being the demo version...... what the hell!!!

FROSTY
March 26, 2012, 03:21 AM
...as said before... crazy (IMHO) to put an unfinished demo in the body of this album... was this contractual so he wanted to FU the label?

Anonymous
March 26, 2012, 06:30 AM
The horrible font is reason enough not to touch this with a bargepole. Oh, Moz, this album was PERFECT as it was - why change it?

Anonymous
March 26, 2012, 06:55 AM
a rough demo in the middle of the album? simply mad.

AnonymousAlan
March 26, 2012, 11:26 AM
HMV says it's 1xLP instead of 2 like has been said before - is it? I hope so. 2LP's is so pointless for a 41 minute album.

Anonymous
March 26, 2012, 12:28 PM
Sad, sad day for Morrissey fans. I have been waiting YEARS for a proper deluxe edition of VIVA HATE, my personaly favorite from Morrissey. VIVA HATE is one of Morrissey's only consistently great albums--there's not a stinker on it... er, that is, at least there wasn't a stinker on it. Why on earth would you delete one track for a demo? Add the demo as a BONUS, but for God's sake, LEAVE THE ORIGINAL WORK OF ART UNALTERED! Sorry, but I will most definitely NOT be buying this. I'm sure there will be a proper reissue in another 5-10 years when the cash tills are running dry. Maybe the next reissue will be a proper one. :(

wemissumoz
March 26, 2012, 12:31 PM
I'd love to hear the remaster, but dropping "Ordinary Boys" made this a non-starter for me.

Anonymous
March 26, 2012, 01:55 PM
Still kept the racist song "Bengali in platforms" and cannot see anyone up in arms about it this time around. It is funny how racism can be an issue for some time only to be completely forgotten later. I guess those that wanna fight racism have the ability to turn a blind eye when it comes to their own idols which only shows the complexity when it comes to racism and the double standards that follow.

Urban the racist (according to a bloke in Bradford whom we shall never forget)

The best doc. you will ever see:

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/rivals/rangers-celtic-full-length

johnson
March 26, 2012, 02:31 PM
then and now i denounce 100%.

Anonymous
March 26, 2012, 04:32 PM
Sad, sad day for Morrissey fans. I have been waiting YEARS for a proper deluxe edition of VIVA HATE, my personaly favorite from Morrissey. VIVA HATE is one of Morrissey's only consistently great albums--there's not a stinker on it... er, that is, at least there wasn't a stinker on it. Why on earth would you delete one track for a demo? Add the demo as a BONUS, but for God's sake, LEAVE THE ORIGINAL WORK OF ART UNALTERED! Sorry, but I will most definitely NOT be buying this. I'm sure there will be a proper reissue in another 5-10 years when the cash tills are running dry. Maybe the next reissue will be a proper one. :(

also - don't forget he's cut out 45 seconds from Late Night, Maudlin Street... - so, the artwork is worse, he's removed one very good track and replaced it with a low quality version of a not really as good song, plus he's edited (against the will of the producer remember) one of his most moving, personal songs.... it's all so contrary and ridiculous you really do have to admire him.

Anonymous
March 26, 2012, 04:38 PM
Regarding the poster above who refers to "Bengali in Platforms" as "racist," I would suggest he has a poor understanding of Morrissey and the lyrical intent of the song. There is no "blind eye" being turned, no "double standard" being used. Alas, ignorance and misunderstanding continue to abound...

Anonymous
March 26, 2012, 10:57 PM
I'd love to hear the remaster, but dropping "Ordinary Boys" made this a non-starter for me.

I agree. Hard to understand the logic from an artistic point of view

Anonymous
March 26, 2012, 11:45 PM
Regarding the poster above who refers to "Bengali in Platforms" as "racist," I would suggest he has a poor understanding of Morrissey and the lyrical intent of the song. There is no "blind eye" being turned, no "double standard" being used. Alas, ignorance and misunderstanding continue to abound...

I was talking about certain fans and how it was viewed before. Even how the media chose to interpret it. I can never explain this to people who do not wanna know.

Urban

Anonymous
March 27, 2012, 09:08 AM
hopefully EMI will release a proper unauthorized version when they see the sales figures for this turkey.

celibate
March 27, 2012, 03:43 PM
I guess Morrissey don't like ' ordinary boys'...it was never played live, as more from this album

For the viva hate fanclub , and dissing the new one, both are avaible in shops...with the Hynde song ,
it's just not the same album anymore .Fact.

maybe you can hear ordinary boys on youtube or spotify, or kingdotdom has still a secret place to DL it
for free...sigh*

Out!

Anonymous
March 27, 2012, 08:40 PM
Sad, sad day for Morrissey fans. I have been waiting YEARS for a proper deluxe edition of VIVA HATE, my personaly favorite from Morrissey. VIVA HATE is one of Morrissey's only consistently great albums--there's not a stinker on it... er, that is, at least there wasn't a stinker on it. Why on earth would you delete one track for a demo? Add the demo as a BONUS, but for God's sake, LEAVE THE ORIGINAL WORK OF ART UNALTERED! Sorry, but I will most definitely NOT be buying this. I'm sure there will be a proper reissue in another 5-10 years when the cash tills are running dry. Maybe the next reissue will be a proper one. :(

We agree with you mate! We hold Morrissey Music in high regard, but the constant re- issues is a blatant sell-out to £££. We ceased buying at the basically good re- issue of Bona Drag. But another, " The very, very, very Best of ME" , was the last straw. Enough of this re-issue b. s. is now really too much, and to think it's all for insatiable, sickening greed!

Anonymous
March 27, 2012, 08:44 PM
a rough demo in the middle of the album? simply mad.

Destroyed his own brilliant work and why? The constant change for the sake of change, has reached a new low. All for money.

Giselle
March 28, 2012, 08:50 AM
also - don't forget he's cut out 45 seconds from Late Night, Maudlin Street... - so, the artwork is worse, he's removed one very good track and replaced it with a low quality version of a not really as good song, plus he's edited (against the will of the producer remember) one of his most moving, personal songs.... it's all so contrary and ridiculous you really do have to admire him.

I know this has been discussed so much, but as much as I love Morrissey, I do have wonder why he would change the font(I loved the elegant font with the quotation marks around the title), as well as take out a whole song and basically write it out of existence.
Even if he doesn't like it, or is ashamed of it, he should let it stand because it is part of the fans' experience/memories now. I can't say that I have known of another artist that has done something similar with a remaster/reissue. So strange. I am a bit nervous about what songs will be eliminated from the track listings of the soon to be remastered "Kill Uncle", "Your Arsenal", and "V & I". Or how those fonts or covers will be changed. I personally love them as they are. Oh well...:(

Eric Hartman
March 28, 2012, 10:22 AM
This will be the worst selling Morrissey album EVER. And rightly so.

Morrissey should take a good hard look at the way Suede re-issued their albums. Brilliantly done!

Morrissey is such a twat these days.

Mark S.
March 28, 2012, 03:00 PM
Morrissey is such a twat these days.

He was always a twat!

It's YOU who aren't a twat anymore!

Anonymous
March 28, 2012, 06:19 PM
I know this has been discussed so much, but as much as I love Morrissey, I do have wonder why he would change the font(I loved the elegant font with the quotation marks around the title)

Because the old font looked too "80's"...Morrissey is a timeless artist, remember? We need something fresh done to the cover to make it not an 80s product anymore. I think it is personally well done and enchanting.