Article: Jockey Club in Lima, Peru (March 14) venue info

[davidt]

You can view the page at http://www.morrissey-solo.com/content/665-Jockey-Club-in-Lima-Peru-(March-14)-venue-info

[Anonymous]

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

Oh dear, Steven.

[Anonymous]

You are such a joke, David Tseng. Pish!

[Dave2006]

A few members raised their eyebrows when the Lima gig was announced at a race track. Are the bull fights held at the same venue, or is it just that the ticket agency also sells tickets for bull fighting?

Who knows what the thought process was that led the tour manager to book it; oh, hang on, is there even a tour manager? Does Morrissey have any management? Is Boz responsible for sorting it all out these days? Or maybe this is the reason Jesse is on the payroll - local contacts, and he's practically fluent in Spanish :)

I still expect him to cancel.

Dave

[Anonymous]

Oh lord! It cannot be possible. Hey Mozz, look out this shit!

[Uncleskinny]

You are such a joke, David Tseng. Pish!

Why do you say this on this thread? Really, I'm interested in your response.

P.

[MORRIZSEY]

A few members raised their eyebrows when the Lima gig was announced at a race track. Are the bull fights held at the same venue, or is it just that the ticket agency also sells tickets for bull fighting?

Who knows what the thought process was that led the tour manager to book it; oh, hang on, is there even a tour manager? Does Morrissey have any management? Is Boz responsible for sorting it all out these days? Or maybe this is the reason Jesse is on the payroll - local contacts, and he's practically fluent in Spanish :)

I still expect him to cancel.

Dave

http://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/120844-TTY-Announcement-about-Morrissey-s-Management?p=1986704584&viewfull=1#post1986704584

[Alvaro]

Did you know that the place at which the Morrissey concert will take place in Lima Peru is a racetrack and a riding club?

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431492_3476692756919_1259225197_3498771_1844770926 _n.jpg

[Anonymous]

Bullfights are not held in this venue. Mozzer was previously in Mexico were surely bullfights are even televised. Here in Lima most people including Moz fans are against bullfighting and there is an ongoing campaign to eliminate such inhumane practice.

[joe frady]

Why do you say this on this thread? Really, I'm interested in your response.

P.

I wouldn't dare speak on behalf of, er, "Anonymous", but I kinda share his/her somewhat negative response. If you are going to post a 'headline' story on the front page that implies Morrissey is a hypocrite why not just state "Morrissey Is A Hypocrite", rather than the 'say, did you all happen to know about this Lima Jockey Club?' and 'maybe you might recall Cheltenham...' flannel.

'Alvaro' sent in the info. The 'editor' chose to make it a front page story and than tie it to Cheltenham. But I suppose that's what can occur if you have someone running an 'unofficial' Morrissey site who doesn't especially like Morrissey much anymore. Like most of its readers, it would seem.

'Joke'? No. Sad? Yes.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't dare speak on behalf of, er, "Anonymous", but I kinda share his/her somewhat negative response. If you are going to post a 'headline' story on the front page that implies Morrissey is a hypocrite why not just state "Morrissey Is A Hypocrite", rather than the 'say, did you all happen to know about this Lima Jockey Club?' and 'maybe you might recall Cheltenham...' flannel.

'Alvaro' sent in the info. The 'editor' chose to make it a front page story and than tie it to Cheltenham. But I suppose that's what can occur if you have someone running an 'unofficial' Morrissey site who doesn't especially like Morrissey much anymore. Like most of its readers, it would seem.

'Joke'? No. Sad? Yes.

Making a thread saying simply, "Morrissey is a hypocrite," would seem a bit pointless, really. It wouldn't add anything that we don't already know. Making a thread that highlights the latest example of said hypocrisy seems much more worthwhile.

[Anonymous]

Moz broke many peoples hearts when he cancelled at cheltenham. It is a fine venue in a town which is deep routed in the history if British music - a place of great importance on the rounds from the early 60's when the stones, beatles, hendrix etc played there.

Surely choosing somewhere simply to decline is the most passive of protests? Surely to play a venue which challenges your morals pits you on scene at the heart of the problem where you can protest, actively, for the maximum effect?

If, as Moz has always been, you are strong willed and determined in your stance you would not shy away from the opportunity to protest on location...

[davidt]

I wouldn't dare speak on behalf of, er, "Anonymous", but I kinda share his/her somewhat negative response. If you are going to post a 'headline' story on the front page that implies Morrissey is a hypocrite why not just state "Morrissey Is A Hypocrite", rather than the 'say, did you all happen to know about this Lima Jockey Club?' and 'maybe you might recall Cheltenham...' flannel.

'Alvaro' sent in the info. The 'editor' chose to make it a front page story and than tie it to Cheltenham. But I suppose that's what can occur if you have someone running an 'unofficial' Morrissey site who doesn't especially like Morrissey much anymore. Like most of its readers, it would seem.

'Joke'? No. Sad? Yes.

Is it that different than Cheltenham racecourse? Maybe I'm missing something but it does seem very similar to me. Maybe Cheltenham was changed for other reasons, none was officially given as far as I know. Perhaps it was researched and found that this racecourse treats animals humanely so there isn't any hypocrisy to speak of? Some would say the sport of horse racing itself is not humane (PETA link (http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-in-entertainment/horse-racing.aspx)), but perhaps Morrissey has no problems with it. I have no idea, I was hoping someone may add some insight.

[Anonymous]

Moz broke many peoples hearts when he cancelled at cheltenham. It is a fine venue in a town which is deep routed in the history if British music - a place of great importance on the rounds from the early 60's when the stones, beatles, hendrix etc played there.

Surely choosing somewhere simply to decline is the most passive of protests? Surely to play a venue which challenges your morals pits you on scene at the heart of the problem where you can protest, actively, for the maximum effect?

If, as Moz has always been, you are strong willed and determined in your stance you would not shy away from the opportunity to protest on location...

Morrissey only pretends to be confrontational. The possibility of confrontation frightens him.

[Anonymous]

If, as Moz has always been, you are strong willed and determined in your stance you would not shy away from the opportunity to protest on location...

Protest on location? While paying them for the privilege? That's hardly the moral stance of Thích Quảng Đức.

[Anonymous]

Race track is getting smaller and smaller,because not many people are interested in it. Part of terrain is used for a Mall that is growing. And because race track does not give enough money,part of the terrain now is used for concerts. So let´s make race track smaller supporting other events rather than the race track.
Is sad to know that exists haters of Morrissey and uses this web page to attack him. Maybe these persons don´t like his life and only want to destroy other lifes. Sorry for the bad English, I am peruvian but I wanted to write some lines because I must.

[joe frady]

Is it that different than Cheltenham racecourse? Maybe I'm missing something but it does seem very similar to me. Maybe Cheltenham was changed for other reasons, none was officially given as far as I know. Perhaps it was researched and found that this racecourse treats animals humanely so there isn't any hypocrisy to speak of? Some would say the sport of horse racing itself is not humane (PETA link (http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-in-entertainment/horse-racing.aspx)), but perhaps Morrissey has no problems with it. I have no idea, I was hoping someone may add some insight.

Cute.

So this was never a 'news' story. It was taking two points, putting them together and waiting for the haters to let rip...sorry, "add some insight".
I don't know what Main Page you've been reading for the last few years David but if you're hoping for any insight from this one you're in for a long and fruitless wait.
Perhaps 'Anonymous' (the other one. There are so many to choose from) was right; just put this in a new separate section titled 'Morrissey Is A Hypocrite'.

[Piscosour]

A lot of bull shit, a Chilean is writing stupid things here, don't belive in any word that. This pussy Chilean wrote. For sure is a chilean like all the time with his envy , Peru is much better than Chile in too many ways. Welcome to Lima Morrissey, welcome to the gastromonic capital of the Americas, city of kings, welcome to Peru, land of Incas and our Pisco.

[Anonymous]

Cute.

So this was never a 'news' story. It was taking two points, putting them together and waiting for the haters to let rip...sorry, "add some insight".
I don't know what Main Page you've been reading for the last few years David but if you're hoping for any insight from this one you're in for a long and fruitless wait.
Perhaps 'Anonymous' (the other one. There are so many to choose from) was right; just put this in a new separate section titled 'Morrissey Is A Hypocrite'.

Two posts in and you still haven't said why you object to this thread. As it stands, you sound as though you just can't bear the fact that there's a website where your favourite pop star can be criticised. Don't you think you're a bit old to feel like that? Anyway, if you feel that he's being criticised unfairly, maybe you should explain why and take part in the discussion, instead of just crying about the fact that the criticisms are being made. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

I'm starting to lose sympathy for David T, with such a petty attack on Morrissey's character.
This news item is in no way relevant and clearly point scoring. Try to keep things more proffesional.

[Anonymous]

I'm starting to lose sympathy for David T, with such a petty attack on Morrissey's character.
This news item is in no way relevant and clearly point scoring. Try to keep things more proffesional.

Morrissey (misguidedly) thinks a lot of his own opinions. He markets himself as a "man of principle" and tries to be scathing about people whose principles differ from his own. In that context then, for him to then act in a way that isn't in keeping with his professed principles is worthy of comment, at the very least. No?

[Anonymous]

Moz broke many peoples hearts when he cancelled at cheltenham. It is a fine venue in a town which is deep routed in the history if British music - a place of great importance on the rounds from the early 60's when the stones, beatles, hendrix etc played there.

Surely choosing somewhere simply to decline is the most passive of protests? Surely to play a venue which challenges your morals pits you on scene at the heart of the problem where you can protest, actively, for the maximum effect?

If, as Moz has always been, you are strong willed and determined in your stance you would not shy away from the opportunity to protest on location...

''Cheltenham is deep rooted in the history of British music........ the Stones / Beatles / Hendrix played there''

Sorry to shatter the illusion you have of the town, but those three bands (and many others) toured the UK extensively - they had to in the absence of radio / TV and other sources that we get take for granted today. The Beatles often played two gigs in one evening in different towns! So the term ''deep rooted in British music history'' could apply to many, many towns across the UK.

[Dave2006]

On a slightly related note; three horses died at Cheltenham yesterday on the first day of the 'festival' http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/


And to the anonymous person who said there wasn't much racing going on at the Jockey Club in Lima; according to Lonely Planet, racing takes places 3 or 4 days per week http://www.lonelyplanet.com/peru/lima/entertainment-nightlife/live-performance/jockey-club-peru


Dave

[joe frady]

Two posts in and you still haven't said why you object to this thread. As it stands, you sound as though you just can't bear the fact that there's a website where your favourite pop star can be criticised. Don't you think you're a bit old to feel like that? Anyway, if you feel that he's being criticised unfairly, maybe you should explain why and take part in the discussion, instead of just crying about the fact that the criticisms are being made. Grow up.

Aplogies Anonymous, I thought I'd made it pretty clear why I objected to this thread. I'd assumed that the Main Page of this site was for news stories. This is clearly something that could have comfortably been posted in the General Discussion forum where it could have been...discussed? Any 'insight', which David so keenly hoped for, would also have freely emerged there. I simply query the reasons for its placement on the main page.

I honestly couldn't give a tuppenny fuck why he is playing a racecourse in Lima when he didn't in Cheltenham. Even if I did give such a fuck I don't have enough information about either racecourse and their practices, or Morrissey's exact reasons for the previous cancellation, to whip up an opinion.

As for the rest, and with all respect due ~ póg mo thóin.

[davidt]

Aplogies Anonymous, I thought I'd made it pretty clear why I objected to this thread. I'd assumed that the Main Page of this site was for news stories. This is clearly something that could have comfortably been posted in the General Discussion forum where it could have been...discussed? Any 'insight', which David so keenly hoped for, would also have freely emerged there. I simply query the reasons for its placement on the main page.

I honestly couldn't give a tuppenny fuck why he is playing a racecourse in Lima when he didn't in Cheltenham. Even if I did give such a fuck I don't have enough information about either racecourse and their practices, or Morrissey's exact reasons for the previous cancellation, to whip up an opinion.

As for the rest, and with all respect due ~ póg mo thóin.

The main page is mostly news but I also choose items of interest that wouldn't strictly fall into the 'news' category. At times there may be links or actual news that don't make Morrissey 'look good' but I think are still interesting. Even though you proclaim there has not been any insightful discussion on the main page in years I strongly disagree. I usually read all the comments on the stories and there usually is something posted anonymously or otherwise. The comments I don't find insightful I can easily ignore -- maybe someone else has a differing opinion and finds it interesting.

Before the Morrisseysworld blog responds about their comments being deleted - you are repeating the same things and mention your site in every post and it's considered spam.

[Anonymous]

I honestly couldn't give a tuppenny fuck why he is playing a racecourse in Lima when he didn't in Cheltenham. Even if I did give such a fuck I don't have enough information about either racecourse and their practices, or Morrissey's exact reasons for the previous cancellation, to whip up an opinion.


Yeah, we know, you are more interested in the pattern of his bag and jacket... and prefer to complain about those in a most pathetic way.

[Anonymous]

What hysterical simpletons. Morrissey exploits certain opportunities to express his political views. Obvious and admirable. He does not claim to be an angel who has no contact with the imperfect world that he criticizes.

Carry on, of course. This grudge site has drifted into self-parody. There's barely an inch's width between the "news" stories and Theo's threads now.

Also: lots of spelling mistakes in this thread. Uncleskinny, where's your King Tut ("tut tut") routine?


I have no idea, I was hoping someone may add some insight.

You are a perfect innocent, detached and free of bias.

I really hope this post receives moderator approval.

[Anonymous]

Aplogies Anonymous, I thought I'd made it pretty clear why I objected to this thread. I'd assumed that the Main Page of this site was for news stories. This is clearly something that could have comfortably been posted in the General Discussion forum where it could have been...discussed? Any 'insight', which David so keenly hoped for, would also have freely emerged there. I simply query the reasons for its placement on the main page.

So, your primary concern is about the location of the thread, rather than its substance? Maybe you should ask to be a moderator, then you can indulge your need for order 'til your heart's content. Do you frequently question and disapprove of the more innocuous "non-news stories" on the main page? If so, then maybe you can provide links, because, despite what you've said, you sound like silly little fan-boy getting all upset because his idol's hypocrisy is being highlighted and discussed. Awwww... diddums. Poor you.

If you find it so disagreeable here, then why not restrict yourself to that other site where you and all the boys and girls can play nicely together; they don't "do" criticism there. (Don't enter into any financial dealings with the administrator of that site, though - you're liable to never see your money again. Incidentally, on that subject, did you make any posts on that site criticising its administrator at the time that she was ripping people off? No? Good to see you've got a good set of priorities, there, Joe. Keep it up.)

Apologies accepted, though.

[gonzax]

you people are absurd, what the fuck does it matter if that company sells tickets for bullfights or not, it's a ticket-selling company, for God's sake!

[Anonymous]

you people are absurd, what the fuck does it matter if that company sells tickets for bullfights or not, it's a ticket-selling company, for God's sake!

I haven't seen anybody criticising the company selling tickets.

Let me help: Morrissey says he is all for animal rights. He cancelled a concert at a racecourse, last year, for that reason. He is now scheduled to perform at a racecourse in Peru. That seems, at best, to be a little inconsistent and warrants discussion.

[Anonymous]

you people are absurd, what the fuck does it matter if that company sells tickets for bullfights or not, it's a ticket-selling company, for God's sake!

You fucking idiot. Morrissey could easily have a race of humanoid ticket sellers created from genetic scratch, who could be programmed to hold enlightened opinions about all matters, and to always put those beliefs before commerce. They could form a company called Morrissey's Personal Ticket-selling Agencey Composed of Absolute Motherfucking Angels.

He could furthermore have vegan concert domes erected in every major city in the world. These would be moulded from tofu and managed by recovering, formerly concussed squirrels.

But noooooo. And why not??? Because Morrissey's a HYPOCRITE!!!

Also: people who start other Morrissey sites are thieves! Ha! Gonna say that in every post!

(Hoping again to receive moderator approval for my comment. Loving the anti-censorship policy here.)

[Anonymous]

God you bunch of losers would moan about anything and everything you possibly could, filling page about page with shit no-one cares about.

The story was interesting and current and relevant stick to it or why even look through the thread?

Sick of middle-aged tossers who go through their monotonous day with nothing to say saving all for the internet where they can be the big men. You give this site a bad name so go get a life and stop leaching off a muscians.

If you feel you have a valid point then put it, dont just run home from work to fill this site full of utter crap, predictable and constant arguments. Dont you care how you are representing yourself?

[goinghome]

What hysterical simpletons. Morrissey exploits certain opportunities to express his political views. Obvious and admirable. He does not claim to be an angel who has no contact with the imperfect world that he criticizes.

Carry on, of course. This grudge site has drifted into self-parody. There's barely an inch's width between the "news" stories and Theo's threads now...

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[CrystalGeezer]

Every day I pray that about some things Morrissey is a hypocrite. :D