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goinghome
December 28, 2011, 12:28 AM
You can view the page at http://www.morrissey-solo.com/content/524-List-of-Own-Albums-Morrissey-s-Most-Proud-Of

Ready With Ready-Wit
December 28, 2011, 12:33 AM
No Queen is Dead? :tears:

Kyra van der Zee
December 28, 2011, 12:47 AM
Hum... ok. This is a balance of retirement or he is just bored? Damn man, go watch porn.

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 12:59 AM
Can you believe he is most proud of the last three? Those are the weakest in terms of music and lyrics. His other seven selections are agreeable.

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 01:10 AM
My faves and M i agree, years of refusal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fYe_I3pMweo

Royal headache
Wye Oak
holy holy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rmjMFPSLXI4

Are you really in love ?

Off-topic

orestes3009
December 28, 2011, 01:12 AM
I find it natural that he is most proud of his discs after the 2004 comeback. Strangeways was his favourite Smiths album anyway. The list may seem unconventional, but we' re talking about Morrissey here...

marielle
December 28, 2011, 01:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=44Pf2WpELgY

Royal headache my darling Morrissey number 2 2011
gives me a year of refusal.

Off-topic

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 01:37 AM
kyra, go suck an egg. you're the reason we get sporadic updates.

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 01:44 AM
I find it natural that he is most proud of his discs after the 2004 comeback. Strangeways was his favourite Smiths album anyway. The list may seem unconventional, but we' re talking about Morrissey here...

Yes Mister Morrissey do you still like New Music I do

Number one http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bnAXHLWXsG8

A Royal headache and ofcourse the Queen is not Dead! LUv from Groningen.

Off-topic

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 01:48 AM
Hum... ok. This is a balance of retirement or he is just bored? Damn man, go watch porn.
No, I don't think so. He don't need to watch porn.We don't. And if he wants to do whatever, he can. Coz he got it like that. You don't. And we don't care. We can do whatever we want, whenever we want, If we want. Including, but not limited to this list. Now roll along.

Harsh Truth
December 28, 2011, 01:53 AM
Bizarre.

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 02:40 AM
My List:

1. Vauxhaul & I
2. Bona Drag
3. You Are The Quarry
4. Strangeways, Here We Come
5. Louder Than Bombs
6. Viva Hate
7. Your Arsenal
8. Hatful of Hollow
9. Kill Uncle
10. Years of Refusal

marielle
December 28, 2011, 02:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=44Pf2WpELgY

Royal headache my darling Morrissey number 2 2011
gives me a year of refusal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2MRzywfOLg&feature=player_detailpagel but his one is nice too you know! not a dum girl form Groningen born not in 1975 but 72 la lala

Off-topic

Kyra van der Zee
December 28, 2011, 02:46 AM
kyra, go suck an egg. you're the reason we get sporadic updates.

I don't mind receive just sporadic updates. I don't have the urge of know everything about his top 10 of albuns, of books, of cities, of television shows ... but if you wanna write a book about the man or participate of a quiz about him, good to you.

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 02:47 AM
Viva Hate will always be number one but some people want to forget about the past but that album was perfection and nothing will ever come close to it.

Urban in Sweden

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 03:00 AM
He should be embarrassed by the three most recent releases--all are mediocre at best when compared to the past.



My list:

1. Viva Hate
2. Strangeways, Here We Come
3. Vauxhall and I
4. Your Arsenal
5. Kill Uncle
6. Rank!
7. Louder Than Bombs
8. Bona Drag
9. Hatful of Hollow
10. The Queen is Dead

bozzer_1
December 28, 2011, 03:38 AM
My List:

1. Vauxhaul & I
2. Bona Drag
3. You Are The Quarry
4. Strangeways, Here We Come
5. Louder Than Bombs
6. Viva Hate
7. Your Arsenal
8. Hatful of Hollow
9. Kill Uncle
10. Years of Refusal

Nice list! Here's mine:

1. Meat is Murder
2. Viva Hate
3. The Queen is Dead
4. Vauxhall & I
5. Your Arsenal
6. Louder than Bombs
7. Strangeways Here We Come
8. The Smiths
9. You are the Quarry
10. Years of Refusal

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 06:01 AM
1. Vauxhall and I
2. Louder Than Bombs
3. Meat is Murder
4. The Queen is Dead
5. Strangeways, Here We Come
6. Years of Refusal
7. You Are the Quarry
8. Bona Drag
9. The Smiths
10 Viva Hate

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 06:34 AM
morrissey is delusional and unable to be objective when it comes to his own releases. The above poster was correct that his last three releases we medicroe at best.

Here what most fans like the most:
!. VivaHate (pure perfection)
2. Strangeways
3. Vauxhall and I
4. Queen is Dead
5. Meat is Murder
6. Louder then Bombs
7. The Smiths
8. Your Arsenal
9. Hatful of Hallow
10. Bona Drag

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 07:41 AM
1. Hatful Of Hollow
2. Louder Than Bombs
3. Bona Drag (reissue)
4. Your Arsenal
5. The Queen is Dead
6. Strangeways, Here We Come
7. Meat is Murder
8. Viva Hate (repackage)
9. The Smiths
10. Ringleader Of The Tormentors (re-evaluate the songs)

*live albums not included
*the Smiths albums listed are the new remasters (the crappy low-fi tinny flatness has been repaired, esp on Louder Than Bombs)

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 08:16 AM
Arguing music taste is impossible.

But, I have to agree with the posters above about the excellence of Viva Hate as a solo album.
An extraordinary album, especially so soon after The Smiths demise.
Why Morrissey doesn't work with Stephen Street again; I'll never know.

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 10:45 AM
1) Years of Refusal
2) Meat is Murder
3) Vauxhall and I
4) The Queen is Dead
5) Strangeways Here We Come
6) Your Arsenal
7) You Are the Quarry
8) Hatful of Hollow
9) Bona Drag
10) Viva Hate

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 10:54 AM
You all have it wrong! Haha...

1. Vauxhall and I
2. Your Arsenal
3. The Queen is Dead
4. Southpaw Grammar (soooooo underrated and amazing)
5. Viva Hate
6. Meat is Murder
7. You are the Quarry
8. The Smiths
9. Kill Uncle
10. Maladjusted


- Ian Curtis -

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 11:04 AM
interesting list, love the inclusion of Rank, Southpaw and Louder.

Johnny Barleycorn
December 28, 2011, 11:13 AM
1 Strangeways, Here We Come 2 The Queen Is Dead 3 Hatful Of Hollow 4 Viva Hate 5 Meat Is Murder 6 Vauxhall & I 7 Louder Than Bombs 8 You Are The Quarry 9 The Smiths 10 No number ten.

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 11:45 AM
1. The Queen is Dead
2. Strangeways, Here We Come
3. Hatful of Hollow
4. Vauxhall and I
5. Your Arsenal
6. You Are the Quarry
7. Rank
8. Ringleader of The Tormentors
9. The Smiths
10. Viva Hate

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 12:21 PM
Great that you're all sharing your favourite ten Morrissey related albums ... erm...

But what might be interesting is to ask why has Morrissey done this? The lack of The Queen is Dead and Meat is Murder is astonishing, is it not?

It's surely telling, that he's chosen his last three albums as his last three. Is this a message to record labels? I'd say so, eh?

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 12:47 PM
Can't believe Kill Uncle isn't at the top of the list - a hundred years from now, that's the record everyone will remember. Probably as important as "Kind of Blue" by Miles Davis and "Blonde on Blonde" by Dylan.

Bona Drag
December 28, 2011, 01:30 PM
My list...Bona Drag, number one...All the rest, second prize...I know, I know...

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 02:33 PM
Arguing music taste is impossible.

But, I have to agree with the posters above about the excellence of Viva Hate as a solo album.
An extraordinary album, especially so soon after The Smiths demise.
Why Morrissey doesn't work with Stephen Street again; I'll never know.

Because Moz didn't want to pay him. Just like many of the other people Moz 'won't' work with again.

Mxco
December 28, 2011, 03:02 PM
I don't speak English very well, just to say: 'Years Of Refusal' No. 1???????????? WTF... Is the worst Morrissey album!!! It's so noisy, and not the best production, to me it sounds like a demo or something... 'Ringleador Of The Tormentors' is one of my favorites, is kind of noisy too, but it's a very good record, creative, the production was unique, and it's very beautiful, not like 'Years Of Refusal'... Also 'Southpaw Grammar' is kind of a noisy record, and not the best production (because Spencer sounds like he's doing wrong in some tracks), but is fresh and its a great album, I think. I really like 'Southpaw Grammar'. Obviously 'The Queen Is Dead' is a little better than 'Strangeways, Here We Come' because 'Strangeways...' sounds more like a Johnny Marr album... ¿You know what I mean? I don't know how to say that... But still a good one, Specially 'A Rush and a Push and the Land is Ours', 'Girlfriend in a Coma', 'Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before' and 'Paint a Vulgar Picture'.

'Years Of Refusal' it's ok but is not the best album. I like 'Black Cloud', 'I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris', 'All You Need is Me', 'When Last I Spoke to Carol' and 'You Were Good in Your Time', but again: NOT THE BEST FROM MORRISSEY!!!

I like ALL albums (Yes, even 'Kill Uncle') and to me 'Years Of Refusal' is the worst of all.

All albums are like 98% great songs, but Years Of Refusal is like 50%... so....................

Maybe in 20 years I will appreciate more that album.

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 03:13 PM
You are the Quarry is the worst of the bunch! It's got two great singles in Irish Blood and First of the Gang...but the rest? Well, Camden and Jesus is pretty good but everything else is just filler.

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 03:29 PM
morrissey is delusional and unable to be objective when it comes to his own releases. The above poster was correct that his last three releases we medicroe at best.

Possibly the most ludicrous comment ever posted on here (and that's saying something!). So you really think an artist should perceive his/her work in exactly the same way as an admirer? Utter nonsense. History is full of poets, authors and fine artists alike who have dismissed the interpretation and admiration of their work by critics and readers alike. By sheer definition an artist is not the same thing as a fan. That's not being delusional, it's just an entirely different perspective originating from an entirely different impetus. But hey, good to see the retards on this site are never missing an opportunity to knock Morrissey. Why do you come here?

Oh, and as for your remark about what true fans consider the best work, well I'm afraid you don't speak for me: personally I think Viva Hate is the weakest album Morrisey has ever put out. But then that's the whole point of art - it's about individual subjective responses, not objective facts, lists and statistics.

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 04:09 PM
I became a Morrissey fan with You Are The Quarry, and I rarely listen to The Smiths. Years of Refusal is a great rock record. I never get tired of listening to it.

celibate
December 28, 2011, 04:22 PM
1meat is murder.

2vauxhall&I.

3Hatfull of Hollow.

4You are the Quarry.

5Years of Refusal.

6Viva Hate.

7Beethoven was deaf.

8 the Queen is dead.

9Rank.

10Kill Uncle.


bubbling under 3

11 Strangeways here we come.

12 Bona Drag [original]

13Your Arsenal

:guitar:

celibate
December 28, 2011, 04:39 PM
You are the Quarry is the worst of the bunch! It's got two great singles in Irish Blood and First of the Gang...but the rest? Well, Camden and Jesus is pretty good but everything else is just filler.

the world is full of crashing bores [a live peleaser at the time, but dropped past 2tours]

Let me kiss you [on the setlist most of the times, this years tour]

I have forgiven Jesus [1 of the 5 singles taken from that album]

Come back to Camden is a classic

[afterall YATQ could be his most succesfull solo album, with touring, media exposure]

a happy Morrissey goodbye 2012, just waiting for his biography and that's it.

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 05:02 PM
So you really think an artist should perceive his/her work in exactly the same way as an admirer? Utter nonsense. History is full of poets, authors and fine artists alike who have dismissed the interpretation and admiration of their work by critics and readers alike... That's not being delusional, it's just an entirely different perspective originating from an entirely different impetus. But hey, good to see the retards on this site are never missing an opportunity to knock Morrissey.

This. Though you go off the rails when discussing Viva Hate :)

But seriously, it's a good point. And I find most artists are most proud of their most recent work. One could say this is a marketing pose, but a less cynical way of looking at it is their most recent work is the one they are still most emotionally invested in, and most reflective of who they are now. It's like a current fling compared to a past, great love affair. Objectively the latter may be more important -- but the current affair is where all the emotional intensity is.

I'll stop now before I go off the rails :)

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 05:04 PM
Possibly the most ludicrous comment ever posted on here (and that's saying something!). So you really think an artist should perceive his/her work in exactly the same way as an admirer? Utter nonsense. History is full of poets, authors and fine artists alike who have dismissed the interpretation and admiration of their work by critics and readers alike. By sheer definition an artist is not the same thing as a fan. That's not being delusional, it's just an entirely different perspective originating from an entirely different impetus. But hey, good to see the retards on this site are never missing an opportunity to knock Morrissey. Why do you come here?

Oh, and as for your remark about what true fans consider the best work, well I'm afraid you don't speak for me: personally I think Viva Hate is the weakest album Morrisey has ever put out. But then that's the whole point of art - it's about individual subjective responses, not objective facts, lists and statistics.


You make a valid point about how artists view their work differently compared to their audiences. It seems as though there are two types of fans who have voiced their thoughts here. First, the fan who prefers the music from the early years--which I am one of. My reasoning may have to do with how that music touched me as I grew up. Now that I am older, I don't feel the same connection to his recent work. Second, the fan who prefers his more recent material. Perhaps, these fans feel a connection that I do not. Either way, the negativity and bashing here is somewhat comical and sad--possible.

Part of the negativity does come from how Morrissey treats his fans--especially those who have been affected by a sudden cancellation. He could do something as simple and as caring as issue a statement. I don't think this is asking too much.

Good Day,

We'll Let You Know

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 05:13 PM
there aint a smiths album worthy of the top five, the sooner you sad fucks grow up and open your eyes the better.
MOVE ON
he's grown up, his lyrics have grown up, his writing has soared light years ahead, yet a naive petulant noisy corner of his audience refuse to open the eyes and ears, or to simply dissapear into the past,

dodgers1970
December 28, 2011, 06:48 PM
My list..1. THE QUEEN IS DEAD2. STRANGEWAYS, HERE WE COME3. VIVA HATE4. YOUR ARSENAL5. LOUDER THAN BOMBS6. THE SMITHS7. VAUXHALL AND I8. MEAT IS MURDER9. BONA DRAG (original 1990 version)10. SUEDEHEAD, THE BEST OF MORRISSEY (1997 Comp) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Suedehead-Best-Morrissey/dp/B000005RS8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325097969&sr=8-1

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 07:17 PM
"Viva Hate", is the ultimate Morrissey record. The Smiths are gone forever, song writing partnership broken, the world seemingly, won't listen. Yet brilliance and creativity will not be ceased. Truly, in the same vein of thought, The Smiths debut is in every way the signal post for 80's pop music and beyond. In both cases, these records are beyond perfection, beyond platinum ratings, and what follows is built upon these initial outpourings of sheer musical genius and super human accompisments. A very special mention of, " YOU Are The Quarry", must be made here. Like the prior two records, "Quarry" was made under special circumstances! Morrisseys glorious return to the stage!
How we still love, "Your Arsenal", "Strangeways", The Queen Is Deaf" and "Bona Drag". We can't rank each record against the next, as each is a moment of Morrisseys life, that we as friends were lucky to hear live, as Morrissey did in his time. Oh dear boy, you were past good in your time and we thank you kindly! always..... mollyn'david xox

molly mae morrissey
December 28, 2011, 07:35 PM
Hey Morrissey... "Viva Hate", "The Smiths" & "Quarry", beat the odds called, " life", itself! Life is not a pigsty, atleast in these 3 cases!

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 07:42 PM
You feel my presence everywhere, filling you up and guiding you, bringing life into your being and singing forth your name as the endless stream that Creation is, uniquely expressed as you. We are the same.

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 08:24 PM
You feel my presence everywhere, filling you up and guiding you, bringing life into your being and singing forth your name as the endless stream that Creation is, uniquely expressed as you. We are the same.

So close yet so far away
Le petit prince
Pigalle red light
Right
How romantic
Just fantastic
Bird

Anonymous
December 28, 2011, 08:49 PM
southpaw was shit... how the hell could he leave off the queen is dead?

KyleD
December 28, 2011, 10:28 PM
Oh dear boy, you were past good in your time and we thank you kindly! always..... mollyn'david xox

So true.

Sorry, but no list is complete without Meat Is Murder on it. And come on Moz, you play songs from it constantly live--it's the perfected album of your youth! And Southpaw is up there, but not with that alternate track listing.

billybu69
December 29, 2011, 12:11 AM
What is the point of an anonymous giving there list of favourites? ludicrous exercise.

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 12:32 AM
My List:

1. Vauxhaul & I
2. Bona Drag
3. You Are The Quarry
4. Strangeways, Here We Come
5. Louder Than Bombs
6. Viva Hate
7. Your Arsenal
8. Hatful of Hollow
9. Kill Uncle
10. Years of Refusal

How can you have a list of what he says he is most proud of?

It would, by definition, have to be the exact same list.

CrystalGeezer
December 29, 2011, 01:23 AM
What is the point of an anonymous giving there list of favourites? ludicrous exercise.

lol :D

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 01:27 AM
Mine:

1. Strangeways
2. Vauxhall
3. Viva Hate
4. Queen Is Dead
5. Meat is Murder
6. The Smiths
7. Your Arsenal
8. Kill Uncle
9. You are the Quarry
10. Ringleader

Excludes compilations, re-issues and repackaged!
@Mo639

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 01:32 AM
Good God Almighty .

Now we know for certain his taste in his own music is as horrid as his taste in music in general.

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 01:44 AM
Hey Mozzer.... This list-statement has an errie tone of sadness and ending to it. How can you rate your work, when your not quite finished? We say this, because the list of your fave gigs had a similar tone of good bye?!? I dunno. Your not going any where friend, save for the stage and RocknRoll Hall of Fame!
Ofcorse, the last 3 lps are stand outs from the rest. You have Boz Borer by your side Morrissey. Thanks Boz for your steadfast Taurean loyalty....Cheers all!

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 02:03 AM
music can be a bit subjective, but words less so, and it seems he is indeed out of touch to pick the last 3 albums which are among the weakest lyrics he's ever written. part of the problem (and why the smiths albums are indisputably - does anyone really want to argue about this - better lyrically), is a young man, who is not yet exceedingly rich, who still can remember what it's like to be young and isolated, writes lyrics that mean something to him, that he must write, must express, and that also connect with an audience. a multi - millionaire older man write lyrics for different reasons, and many of his day to day concerns (lawyers, journalists, cash, judges etc) don't resonate or connect with anyone. they don't speak about anyone's life. many of the other lyrics off these albums, just seem samey, written as a product or brand, without any real passion. i mean hand in glove or throwing my arms around paris? you tell me which sounds more authentic?

hmm even though music is subjective, favoring the recent music of boz, alain, jesse over marr/street is probably a personal choice of morrisseys because it is more his baby now. but if we compare the current band to an ugly brain damaged baby (and i think we can), it is a baby that only morrissey could truly love.

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 02:15 AM
All you people are the same. There is no one real on here. It is one person talking to himself and writing to themselves arguing and fighting and agreeing.
No exists here. Morrissey should have listed his 10 favorite fans instead here except wait he doesn’t have ten fans here.
Morrissey is so relieved the tour is over and he can peacefully hide under his bed in London and not have boz busily pulling him out telling him he has to perform. It never works until Morrissey has to yell from beneath the bed “Boz for the last time get those 15 pizza hut pizza out of your mouth when you talk to me as I can’t understand a word you say and the gravy out of your moth just rolled past me again”
No wonder Morrissey can’t get a record deal as how many will he sell given that there is one person on his fan site and they are too busy talking to themselves on here to go and buy it if it came out.
And I wish he had thanked his band in his message as I’ve always wanted to learn who they are.
Now Morrissey is busy relaxing and doesn’t have to get himself together to go on stage and sing 4 songs and can find a better use of those 18 minutes he spends on stage.
And he can sit instead and wish he had real fans on here who are not insane to worship him and most importantly buy his new cd that he’s not putting out.

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 03:09 AM
Hmm, I don't know about Morrissey's list, seems unnecessarily contentious or worse, positive reinforcement. Surely these aren't the 10 albums he is most proud of. Oh well, we're all entitled to our opinions and Morrissey need not be reminded of this. I won't give my top 10 instead i shall shout out my love for Vauxhall and I, Viva Hate, and the very underrated Kill Uncle.

MozIsGod
December 29, 2011, 03:25 AM
[afterall YATQ could be his most succesfull solo album, with touring, media exposure]

You really think Quarry was successful because of its content? More like Morrissey had been away for 7 years and everyone seemingly cared again. I agree with another poster in that it's got a couple good songs (Irish Blood, First of the Gang, Camden, Jesus) but the majority of it is weak.

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 03:26 AM
music can be a bit subjective, but words less so, and it seems he is indeed out of touch to pick the last 3 albums which are among the weakest lyrics he's ever written. part of the problem (and why the smiths albums are indisputably - does anyone really want to argue about this - better lyrically), is a young man, who is not yet exceedingly rich, who still can remember what it's like to be young and isolated, writes lyrics that mean something to him, that he must write, must express, and that also connect with an audience. a multi - millionaire older man write lyrics for different reasons, and many of his day to day concerns (lawyers, journalists, cash, judges etc) don't resonate or connect with anyone. they don't speak about anyone's life. many of the other lyrics off these albums, just seem samey, written as a product or brand, without any real passion. i mean hand in glove or throwing my arms around paris? you tell me which sounds more authentic?

hmm even though music is subjective, favoring the recent music of boz, alain, jesse over marr/street is probably a personal choice of morrisseys because it is more his baby now. but if we compare the current band to an ugly brain damaged baby (and i think we can), it is a baby that only morrissey could truly love.

Very well said.

9 x Fined
December 29, 2011, 03:31 AM
My List:

1. Vauxhaul & I
2. Bona Drag
3. You Are The Quarry
4. Strangeways, Here We Come
5. Louder Than Bombs
6. Viva Hate
7. Your Arsenal
8. Hatful of Hollow
9. Kill Uncle
10. Years of Refusal

An anonymous top ten. How enthralling.

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 07:29 AM
An anonymous top ten. How enthralling.

yes why are anonymous people posting lists when the only list of interest and worth discussion is morrisseys?

Mozs Turkey Drumstick
December 29, 2011, 09:18 AM
He must be very,very bored to sit down and write a list of his own albums. Funny how Meat Is Murder is not in the list although He continues to sing 2 songs from it on the current tours?

And Rank? ryhmes with Wank.

nozmuppet
December 29, 2011, 09:59 AM
Well sometimes I think Morrissey is tone deaf or dellusional, It is a matter of personal tastes though, YOR was Loud & predictable, Tormentors nearly a classic could have done with the full orchestra arrangements and cut back with album fillers. Quarry still sounds fresh 7 years on testament to Moz & Whytes songwriting skills.

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 10:23 AM
The queen is dead
Meat is murder
The world won't listen
Viva hate
Strangways
Vauxhall and I
Maladjusted
Hat full of hollow
Bona drag
World of Morrissey

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 11:04 AM
"1 Years of refusal (2009) #3 UK, #11 US"


Dear sons,

Since day 1, since first migration of DT electronic barbed-wire border, I'm telling you this simple fact!
Stay tuned, because

we'll let you know

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 11:07 AM
You make a valid point about how artists view their work differently compared to their audiences. It seems as though there are two types of fans who have voiced their thoughts here. First, the fan who prefers the music from the early years--which I am one of. My reasoning may have to do with how that music touched me as I grew up. Now that I am older, I don't feel the same connection to his recent work. Second, the fan who prefers his more recent material. Perhaps, these fans feel a connection that I do not. Either way, the negativity and bashing here is somewhat comical and sad--possible.

Part of the negativity does come from how Morrissey treats his fans--especially those who have been affected by a sudden cancellation. He could do something as simple and as caring as issue a statement. I don't think this is asking too much.

Good Day,

We'll Let You Know

Another fake post!

we'll let you know

Johnny Barleycorn
December 29, 2011, 11:08 AM
Paul McCartney reveals the albums "of which he i most proud"... 1 Pipes Of Peace 2 Give My Regards To Broad Street 3 Wings At The Speed Of Sound 4 Flowers In The Dirt 5 Flaming Pie 6 Kisses On The Bottom 7 Red Rose Speedway 8 Yellow Submarine 9 Tug Of War 10 Abbey Road

celibate
December 29, 2011, 04:41 PM
Paul McCartney reveals the albums "of which he i most proud"... 1 Pipes Of Peace 2 Give My Regards To Broad Street 3 Wings At The Speed Of Sound 4 Flowers In The Dirt 5 Flaming Pie 6 Kisses On The Bottom 7 Red Rose Speedway 8 Yellow Submarine 9 Tug Of War 10 Abbey Road

cool let's go on with Madonna or Bruce Sprinsteen, or the Rolling Stones , who are way better
and influential than the Beatles...

wonder what Morrissey should choose, Beatles or the Rolling Stones

:thumb:
[under my thumb:lbf:]

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 04:53 PM
Are you a friend to Morrissey? Then please friends, do realize the last 3 records are brilliant and lyrically wonderful and up to the minute called life! Open honesty and a contrite heart for the world, for our 4 legged friends, for us! "The Farher Who Must Be Killed", how true in many cases. "America Is Not the World", how we wish it was so. And... when you want to cut and shread, "All You Need Is Me."
Morrissey never left us and he's still here.... Writting, performing , what more can be expected? You wonder why no new record deal? Because Morrissey won't, "sell-out"!
True - to You , Morrissey is.... Good night and.. Thank you.

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 05:35 PM
Tormentors nearly a classic could have done with the full orchestra arrangements and cut back with album fillers.

True. Ringleader of the Tormentors is the ONE album in Morrissey's catalog that DESPERATELY needs remastering. It's too dull and muddy and there's virtually no dynamics at all in the mix. The fact that a recent Morrissey album sounds worse than the original 1991 Kill Uncle CD is appalling.

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 06:10 PM
:thumb:
[under my thumb:lbf:]

What the fook was funny about that, you little bollocks?

You're a lemon. And stop mouthing off about being celibate - just cos you've the genitals of a dung beetle and no woman nor man would go near you.

Troll post

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 06:43 PM
Possibly the most ludicrous comment ever posted on here (and that's saying something!). So you really think an artist should perceive his/her work in exactly the same way as an admirer? Utter nonsense. History is full of poets, authors and fine artists alike who have dismissed the interpretation and admiration of their work by critics and readers alike. By sheer definition an artist is not the same thing as a fan. That's not being delusional, it's just an entirely different perspective originating from an entirely different impetus. But hey, good to see the retards on this site are never missing an opportunity to knock Morrissey. Why do you come here?

Oh, and as for your remark about what true fans consider the best work, well I'm afraid you don't speak for me: personally I think Viva Hate is the weakest album Morrisey has ever put out. But then that's the whole point of art - it's about individual subjective responses, not objective facts, lists and statistics.

I posted it and its true.

You can say what you want, but if you ask a thosand people to listen to "years" then play them "Viva" my guess is the 998 will say Viva is a stronger record. Also My guess is you could do that for all his other releases as well and "Year" would almost alway come in last.

Here the probelm with you theory. Morrissey is suppose to be a lyrical poet, which i beleive he was. Take the lyrics from any song on "years" and you will find may one of two clever poet verses. Most of the time in the new stuff it will be repeated ver as over as well. On almost all new songs, morrissey seems to be content with writing a few good lines then just saying them over and over and over again. If you call that poetic, you need some help.

Now go back to Viva or Strangeway or Vauxhall and you see well thought out poetic verse abound. Take Maudin Street of Viva. That whole song probably has more verse then the entire Years album and all are more clever and poetic.

People may like the newer albums which have their moments, but every song Viva Hate and before was a moment. They are all masterpeices of poetic genius. ohh include Vuaxhall in there as well.

Morrissey as a person can like whatever he chooses but untimitely its the fans opinion that matters since they will be the one buying the music. Morrissey needs to grow up and start writing full songs again instead of the crap that he puts out now. Its ironic because Morrissey's new music is the "crashing Bores" that he talks about.

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 06:55 PM
yes why are anonymous people posting lists when the only list of interest and worth discussion is morrisseys?

So if they post some made up internet moniker the list somehow is better? You don't know them either way. They are useful becuase you see the overall majority opinion of fans.

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 07:37 PM
I posted it and its true.

You can say what you want, but if you ask a thosand people to listen to "years" then play them "Viva" my guess is the 998 will say Viva is a stronger record. Also My guess is you could do that for all his other releases as well and "Year" would almost alway come in last.

Here the probelm with you theory. Morrissey is suppose to be a lyrical poet, which i beleive he was. Take the lyrics from any song on "years" and you will find may one of two clever poet verses. Most of the time in the new stuff it will be repeated ver as over as well. On almost all new songs, morrissey seems to be content with writing a few good lines then just saying them over and over and over again. If you call that poetic, you need some help.

Now go back to Viva or Strangeway or Vauxhall and you see well thought out poetic verse abound. Take Maudin Street of Viva. That whole song probably has more verse then the entire Years album and all are more clever and poetic.

People may like the newer albums which have their moments, but every song Viva Hate and before was a moment. They are all masterpeices of poetic genius. ohh include Vuaxhall in there as well.

Morrissey as a person can like whatever he chooses but untimitely its the fans opinion that matters since they will be the one buying the music. Morrissey needs to grow up and start writing full songs again instead of the crap that he puts out now. Its ironic because Morrissey's new music is the "crashing Bores" that he talks about.

you're totally right about most of his recent 'lyrical' output being a few lines repeated over and over. is it laziness? he actually cant be bothered writing enough words to fill a whole song? or lacking inspiration? viva hate was indeed a lyrical masterpiece because it had songs that actually said something in a thoughtful way. when you listen to these quick rushed and repetitive lyrics of today ... dont you feel cheated?

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 07:44 PM
So if they post some made up internet moniker the list somehow is better? You don't know them either way. They are useful becuase you see the overall majority opinion of fans.

my cats list:

the queen is dead
meat is murder (but she doesnt like the title track)
smiths
strangeways here we come
louder than bombs
viva hate
vauxhall and i
hatfull of hollow
bona drag

ok she cant count

Romantic and Square
December 29, 2011, 08:51 PM
As the creator/co-creator of the music he's clearly, above any of us, in a unique position to rank the work. As odd a list as it is (Hmmm... wasn't 'Hand in Glove" once, to him, the "most important song ever written"??) if those 10 records make him the happiest so be it. But, does this mean he plays songs such as 'Still Ill' and 'I Want the One I Can't Have (songs not on records from his list) live purely for the audience?

Anyway, I'll join the ranks with my top ten list (which does not include any live work, but does include the "non-albums" Hatful of Hollow, Louder Than Bombs, and Bona Drag. Lastly, for anyone that cares. my "- - - - - " breaks the list into three groups of quality, as per my personal taste of course ;)

1. Hatful of Hollow
2. The Smiths
3. Meat is Murder
4. The Queen is Dead
5. Strangeways Here We Come
6. Louder Than Bombs
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
7. Viva Hate 8.
Bona Drag
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
9. Kill Uncle 10. Your Arsenal
________________________

Anonymous
December 29, 2011, 11:01 PM
Hey! Here's my opinion of his top 10, and I think it's pretty slick:

1. Meat Is Murder (best track - Well I wonder/Barbarism)
2. Vauxhall and I (best track - Why Don't You Find..)
3. Hatful of Hollow (best track - This Night Has Opened/too many to mention)
4. Ringleader of the Tormentors (To Me You Are/Pigsty)
5. The Queen is Dead (best track - There is a Light)
6. Your Arsenal (best track - Seasick....)
7. Years of Refusal (best track - Mama Lay....)
8. The World Won't Listen (best track - Rubber/Stretch Out)
9. Viva Hate (best track - Little Man...)
10. Strangeways Here We Come (best track - Paint Vulgar)

Meat is Murder is the best album he's contributed to, hands down. Song for song there is no better album for the Mozzer. Vauxhall is marvelous, the first album I ever owned by him and it still sounds amazing. Hatful of Hollow is the best piece of early Smiths music you'll find, and the recording quality is brilliant, even if they're mostly radio cuts. Hatful really shows their brilliance.

Regarding the exclusions:

I've been very impressed with his most recent solo releases too, albeit I find Quarry to be slow and a HUGE bore, though it's much better than Maladjusted. I REALLY like Southpaw, but the first side of Viva beats the former entirely (though Best Friend... and the title track are GEMS). No Bona (though Piccadilly is one of my all time faves) and no Uncle (thankfully). The Smiths L.P. had very thin production and I wasn't a fan of all the songs. Hit me back if you want. - Walt

Anonymous
December 30, 2011, 03:50 AM
Viva Hate would be near the bottom of my list. I prefer the singles between Viva Hate and Kill Uncle, esp. Ouija Board (yes, I'm the one). My #1, though, would be Your Arsenal.

dodgers1970
December 30, 2011, 08:15 AM
How about a worst list ?Worst releases/Morrissey moments1. Ringleader Of The Tormentors2. Southpaw Grammer 3. Kill Uncle - loved Morrissey in 1991, great tour.... But Found, Found, Found is a lowlight of his career...4. The 2010 re-presented version of "Ouija Board" with my favorite verse inexplicably hacked out ("...it spells S-T-E-V-E-N")5. The video for "November Spawned a Monster". With his recent behavior and my being affected by multiple concert cancellations, I feel extremely embarrassed for him - very hard to watch in December 2011.6. Cover art for the original "Maladjusted" record. Clothes bought from J. Crew Autumn 1997 catalogue, page 19. 7. The fake boxing make-up... With the fake cuts and bruises. If the record were good, it would be forgivable. It isn't. 8. The remix of "When I Last Spoke to Carol"9. His idea of what the tracks should be on "The Very Best of"10. Dropping two tracks from Maladjusted re-issue that would have fit....I went pretty easy on him, actually.

Gregor Samsa
December 30, 2011, 11:50 AM
You bunch of useless, hateful (towards Moz that is) twats, cunts and wankers. Had I seen any of you in the street I would have gladly picked up nearest rock and planted it permanently in yer mouth. I would've found it quite sad had he regarded his really old stuff as his very best. My list (obviously the ten I like the most, nothing else, nothing to do with pride. His nor mine): 1. The Queen is Dead 2. Vauxhall and I 3. Hatful of Hollow 4. Meat is Murder 5. Maladjusted 6. The Smiths 7. Bona Drag 8. You are the Quarry 9. The World Won't Listen 10. My Early Burglary Years

Anonymous
December 30, 2011, 12:19 PM
You' re so correct. Viva Hate was the absolute highlight in many ways. My all-time favourite as well ...

billy scissors
December 30, 2011, 12:51 PM
You bunch of useless, hateful (towards Moz that is) twats, cunts and wankers. Had I seen any of you in the street I would have gladly picked up nearest rock and planted it permanently in yer mouth. I would've found it quite sad had he regarded his really old stuff as his very best. My list (obviously the ten I like the most, nothing else, nothing to do with pride. His nor mine): 1. The Queen is Dead 2. Vauxhall and I 3. Hatful of Hollow 4. Meat is Murder 5. Maladjusted 6. The Smiths 7. Bona Drag 8. You are the Quarry 9. The World Won't Listen 10. My Early Burglary Years
Happy new year,pal

ShiteHead
December 30, 2011, 05:55 PM
My list:
1. Maladjusted
2. Swords
3. Southpaw Grammar
4. Years Of Refusal
5. Ringleader of the Tormentors
6. Live At Earl's Court
7. Vauxhall And I
8. Meat Is Murder

nozmuppet
December 30, 2011, 07:11 PM
You' re so correct. Viva Hate was the absolute highlight in many ways. My all-time favourite as well ...

Viva Hate my first love...and the subsequent 4 single releases Suedehead, Sunday, Playboys and Interesting Drug.

fatboz
December 30, 2011, 07:20 PM
where the F is kill uncle...oh wait that was #1 on the shortest album lists

Anonymous
December 31, 2011, 02:00 PM
mine:
1. Strangeways, Here We Come 2. Vauxhall & I 3. Southpaw Grammar 4. Louder Than Bombs 5. The Smiths 6. Viva Hate 7. Your Arsenal 8. Bona Drag 9. The Queen Is Dead 10. Maladjusted

Anonymous
December 31, 2011, 05:08 PM
Hum... ok. This is a balance of retirement or he is just bored? Damn man, go watch porn.
How dare you! Moz is not like that. He's celibate you dirty pervert fuck off

Anonymous
December 31, 2011, 08:17 PM
It's very tough but if I were to picke one, it would have to be the Very best of Morrissey

Anonymous
December 31, 2011, 09:45 PM
Years of Denial more like. If he seriously thinks that's the best thing he's ever done he's lost the plot. Oh...

molly mae morrissey
January 1, 2012, 05:18 PM
Happy New Year? "You were good in your time Morrissey & still are & we thank you." Continued Success & Good Luck!

Anonymous
January 1, 2012, 07:56 PM
I think the last three were great records and anytime you try to rank your favorites it fails miserably. But, I can't personally understand why The Smiths self-titled lp isn't in his top 10. You can't really explain how magical the first record is using any words. And not because it's the first.

Anonymous
January 1, 2012, 07:58 PM
[Yeah I don't understand him not working with Stephen Street again, but I'm sure it must be a strong desire not to go backwards. But next to Marr I think his partnership with Street was definitely the second best partnership of his career, musically.

But, I have to agree with the posters above about the excellence of Viva Hate as a solo album.
An extraordinary album, especially so soon after The Smiths demise.
Why Morrissey doesn't work with Stephen Street again; I'll never know.[/QUOTE]

Anonymous
January 2, 2012, 01:16 AM
My favorites are:
1. YOR
2. YATQ
3. Maladjusted
4. ROTT
5. Swords
6. Very Best of Morrissey
What else was I listening to when I first met you?
Where's Maladjusted?

Anonymous
January 2, 2012, 04:10 AM
ed to inform Morrissey of his 310 awards that he has won in addition to his previous awards and we await how to present him with his awards and he should be proud of the achievement.

Anonymous
January 2, 2012, 04:15 AM
Sorta funny that he lists a live album and two compilations, since this site didn't allow people to select Bona Drag when mentioning their favorite Moz album a few years back. He's obviously being contrarian and mentioning albums he thinks are overlooked, like Southpaw Grammer and Strangeways (what, no Malajusted?). All artists mention their most recent material as their best. The ego required to create such great art doesn't allow for true neutrality in judging their own output. It's human nature to want to think that we're getting better with age, even if we've peaked creatively a long time ago. I wish he'd get a new producer and shake things up a little bit. On an unrelated note, I would love to see him to a proper covers album, not just release a CD of songs that influenced him. Might help him broaden his appeal to a wider audience if he were to go the Johnny Cash "Hurt" route...

celibate
January 2, 2012, 04:39 PM
How dare you! Moz is not like that. He's celibate you dirty pervert fuck off

don't start being personal:straightface:

celibate is just not a nick .

could've chosen many others.

:crazy:

' and they say he's mentall'

Anonymous
January 2, 2012, 06:18 PM
I wish he'd get a new producer and shake things up a little bit.

I suspect you didn't know his Morrissey's last producer, Jerry Finn (from YOR and YATQ) tragically died at no age of 38: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Finn

goinghome
January 2, 2012, 10:42 PM
'Today, like every other day, we wake up emptyand frightened. Don't open the door to the studyand begin reading. Take down a musical instrument.Let the beauty we love be what we do.There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground. ' - RumiHAPPY NEW YEAR!

D Q
January 2, 2012, 11:38 PM
Wow, Morrissey has completely different taste in Morrissey (and Smiths) music than I do.

Allow me to propose some well founded theories:

Morrissey is a credit and glory hog. He is a control freak and a bitter little queen.

I am willing to bet Morrissey had less control and influence over albums like Viva Hate (Street) and The Queen is Dead (Marr). These are albums that are clearly excellent. Sure they were his lyrics, and they were great ones, and that is why I am such a big Morrissey fan, but the music on those albums really made them what they were. Morrissey never wanted it to be about the musical or production quality. Morrissey wanted it to be about him. In the later Smiths years, Marr began to garner some of his own attention. He began being discussed and recognized as a fantastic guitarist and a legend in the making. Even though Morrissey still held 95% of the attention and Marr had 5, this was too much for Morrissey. He may well have even been intimidated or jealous of Marr's musical ability, or at least the recognition he was beginning to get for it.

With Street, Viva Hate musically was downright gorgeous. The music and Morrissey's singing and lyrics well complimented each other. But again, I bet the music was a little too gorgeous for Morrissey's liking. Again, Morrissey never wanted it to be about the music, he wanted it to be about him. If he could, he would banish any musical contribution by any individual other than himself and have (unaccredited) elevator music playing in the background whilst he read us prose if he thought it would sell.

This is why he can say with such confidence that he will never again work with Marr or Street. It's not that they aren't good enough. It is that they are too good. When we mentally wail, "...but Morrissey, you were so good with Johnny Marr and Stephen Street! Oh won't you reunite!?" It is for this exact reason that he will not reunite. He would prefer we never even learn the names of his backing musicians and studio producers, much less give them any sort of acclaim or recognition. This is why he is so proud of his latest 3 albums. I am willing to bet he had a lot of artistic influence over the albums. And although they were exactly shit musically, they feature him prominently. He doesn't have to worry about us being distracted with the high musical quality. He wants all the recognition to be squarely on him. If one of the new studio producers or a backing musician began to garner some of the acclaim, he would gladly never work with them again.

In Saddam Hussein-era Iraq, if you worked in Hussein's government, it was never a good idea to become too popular with the people. Be faithful and loyal to the leader, but never seek to let any of his spotlight shine on you. In fact, shun it if you know what is good for you. Shun it if you don't want to mysteriously disappear.
These are also wise words to consider if you work with Morrissey.

This also touches on why The Charming Leader despises Morrissey-Solo. A large number of people on this website have the audacity to actually voice their opinions. Many of those opinions are critical and questioning of Morrissey - especially some of his newest endeavors (The ones he is so defiantly proud of). Also, David Tseng posts Morrissey news, mentions in the media, and gossip. Tseng posts articles irrespective of whether they show Morrissey in a good, bad or indifferent light. Morrissey does not like this. He feels Tseng does not toe the line like a good little, unquestioning, eternally grateful and awe-inspired Morrissey fan should (What he will never understand is that we are still awe-inspired by him but we are also adults with adult opinions).

Yes, Morrissey is essentially the Kim Jong-Il of music and true-to-you.net is his "state-controlled media" if you will (except Morrissey isn't dead of course). I don't know who Kim Jong-un will be... Billy Corgan?

Anyway, throw away all your books claiming they have the inside scoop on the behind the scenes stuff and the breakup, etc. and realize that this theory explains 99% of the biggest questions you have. This answers the questions about the court trials and why Rourke and Joyce were disrespected and dismissed by Morrissey so readily and easily. Why he dismissed and talked-down their musical contribution (newsflash: He would have done the same to Marr if he thought people would believe him).
This explains why he doesn't keep a guitarist for too long, unless that guitarist knows and recognizes their place in the "band".
This is why he wanted his band to be called Morrissey and not The Smiths.
This is why when interviewers ask him what artists/bands he currently enjoys, he always says none.
This explains why we have so many quotes where he talks down every other contemporary artist when he was coming up in the 80s.
This is why he only ever pays homage to and/or admires dead people (like Oscar Wilde and James Dean) and never the living. He knows he can claim these people as his heroes and champion their greatness and they can never come back and rival his greatness or tell him to fuck off.
This answers the question as to why he has still after all these years never given a clear answer about why the fuck the Smiths broke up! He doesn't answer the question because he knows he dumped Marr and the Smiths and Stephen Street, and a million others because he only ever wanted all the attention and fanfare and glory to be about him. And who would ever want to admit that?

billybu69
January 2, 2012, 11:56 PM
don't start being personal:straightface:

celibate is just not a nick .

could've chosen many others.

:crazy:

' and they say he's mentall'

You' ve got this post wrong celibate, go back and reread it.

Anonymous
January 3, 2012, 12:21 AM
You' ve got this post wrong celibate, go back and reread it.

Celibate doesn't have two brain cells to rub together. It really is like having an 8 year old posting on here all the time. An 8 year old with a 4 year old's spelling ability.

Anonymous
January 3, 2012, 06:02 AM
1. Vauxhall and I
2. Strangeways
3. Bona Drag
4.Louder than Bombs
5.Viva Hate
6.Hatfull of hollow
7.Meat is Murder
8.The Smiths
9.Queen is dead
10.Ringleader of the tormentors
Vauxhall has a very special place for me.

celibate
January 3, 2012, 06:39 AM
You' ve got this post wrong celibate, go back and reread it.

it was a sorta joke, sorry

celibate
January 3, 2012, 06:42 AM
Celibate doesn't have two brain cells to rub together. It really is like having an 8 year old posting on here all the time. An 8 year old with a 4 year old's spelling ability.

wow, my age differs in every flame you post towards me

uilskuiken

Anonymous
January 3, 2012, 08:46 AM
My favourite Moz album; the little known 'Is that you, Nancy?'.

A collation of Morrissey's phone messages from the wilderness years.

Anonymous
January 3, 2012, 01:39 PM
My favourite Moz album; the little known 'Is that you, Nancy?'.

A collation of Morrissey's phone messages from the wilderness years.

Ha! Love it.

Anonymous
January 3, 2012, 06:48 PM
What are you all wittering on about?

Morrissey said these are the albums he is most proud of, not what he considers to be the definitive best like most of you have misunderstood, or most likely, misread, and are subsequently soiling yourselves over the differences in your lists.

He may be proud of the albums for many reasons other than the contents - for instance the first 3 of his list being the albums that returned him to success and glory. And pride is something we can't dictate for other people, quite like musical taste (albeit you wouldn't believe it reading some of the nutty comments above.)

Au revoir.

Jerjay
January 4, 2012, 03:35 AM
Can you believe he is most proud of the last three? Those are the weakest in terms of music and lyrics. His other seven selections are agreeable.

Agreed.. completely boring..I actually thought 'Arsenal" was the best besides self titled, then Kill Uncle...man.

chrisarclark
January 4, 2012, 04:55 AM
it's one thing to put Years Of Refusal at the top of the list- it's his most recent/last, so sure- but to follow it up with Ringleader Of The Tormentors and You Are The Quarry is pretty laughable- this is Morrissey trying to convince himself of something- that he's still relevant.

Rank?

Bona Drag? to me, Bona Drag is symbolic of a failure- an album that should've/could've been if not for silly in-fighting.

Louder Than Bombs? as a collection, compared to the albums-proper? idon't know.

no The Queen Is Dead? no Meat Is Murder? no Viva Hate? no The Smiths?

iwould've expected something like this:

Years Of Refusal
Vauxhall And I
Strangeways, Here We Come
The Queen Is Dead
Your Arsenal
Meat Is Murder
You Are The Quarry
Viva Hate
The Smiths
Southpaw Grammar

anotheralias
January 4, 2012, 05:48 PM
i couldn't agree more with his top three choices -- i think they're his best solo releases, actually.

Anonymous
January 4, 2012, 09:04 PM
Here's my list, and I am fully aware most of you will laugh at what's on top:

1. Ringleader Of The Tormentors
2. The Queen Is Dead
3. Strangeways, Here We Come
4. Bona Drag
5. Louder Than Bombs
6. Meat Is Murder
7. Your Arsenal
8. The Smiths
9. Years Of Refusal
10. You Are The Quarry

Frankly, I'm quite shocked that Ringleader has been so marginalized by Morrissey's fanbase. It has (in my opinion) his most consistent collection of songs (as much as I love all of his albums, each have their fair share of weak tracks, Smiths included) and the best production value by far. My personal favorites are The Father Who Must Be Killed, The Youngest Was The Most Loved, and To Me You Are A Work Of Art. And while it does not have a single track as strong as First Of The Gang To Die, it is a vastly superior effort to You Are The Quarry, with its terrible fake strings, etc. Ringleader is his only album other than The Queen Is Dead where I can listen to the entire thing without skipping any songs. Strangeways would be perfect (and superior to TQID) if not for the terrible Paint A Vulgar Picture. Also, I know I'm going to be drawn and quartered for this, but I find Vauxhall & I TERRIBLY dull. If not for its masterful closing track Speedway, I'd never listen to any of it.

Anonymous
January 5, 2012, 04:20 AM
i couldn't agree more with his top three choices -- i think they're his best solo releases, actually.

Yo Ma, I Completely agree.

Lisa
January 6, 2012, 12:57 AM
I love that he loves Southpaw Grammar enough to include it in his top 10.

peptastic
January 6, 2012, 03:54 AM
Perhaps Moz is thinking of personal times working on the albums?In my opinion 'Your Arsenal" is #1. I listen to this album every day. Oh well I constantly change up my favourite smiths and Moz songs so he might too.He ought to be proud of all of it though.

Anonymous
January 7, 2012, 01:03 AM
Most proud of the three most-recent, a live disc, and three compilations?
Daft.

chrisarclark
January 7, 2012, 04:56 AM
ilike ROTT, but iwouldnt hav guessed it to stand prominently in a list of "most proud of." imuch prefer it to YATQ, but YATQ was the big comeback, so ithink that would swell Moz with more pride. obviously his best solo albums proper are VH , YA and VAI- iwould include KU and stretch to add SG as well and feel confident in saying that this period holds up equally to The Smiths. Maladjusted was a first real misstep, but still had some gorgeous songs (and b-sides) and then he really starts to lose it on YATQ- the last 3 are not terrible, but they are decidedly inferior to what came before.

marielle
January 8, 2012, 03:05 AM
Why dont you play songs from the lp Years of refusal yes to me but not in Mexico city. Does it not fit?

FlatulentPainInTheAss
January 8, 2012, 10:00 AM
It will take some time for his new work to be appreciated. I've listened to countless Morrissey/The Smiths songs and disliked them at first. Then upon listening to them over and over, realize how great they are. There are many songs on these albums that are as good as Still Ill or There is a Light such as To Me You Are a Work of Art, Life is a Pigsty, Come Back to Camden, It's Not Your Birthday Anymore. Even B-Sides such as My Dearest Love are up there. We have had the opportunity to listen to our favorite Morrissey songs hundreds and thousands of times. Listen to his new songs that many times then compare.

Anonymous
January 8, 2012, 02:43 PM
"I've listened to countless Morrissey/The Smiths songs and disliked them at first. Then upon listening to them over and over, realize how great they are."

Dear son,

The genealogy of Experience is brief; for Experience is the child of Thought, and Thought is the child of Action.
That's why, Action Is My Middle Name!
Indeed,

we'll let you know

marielle
January 8, 2012, 07:44 PM
It will take some time for his new work to be appreciated. I've listened to countless Morrissey/The Smiths songs and disliked them at first. Then upon listening to them over and over, realize how great they are. There are many songs on these albums that are as good as Still Ill or There is a Light such as To Me You Are a Work of Art, Life is a Pigsty, Come Back to Camden, It's Not Your Birthday Anymore. Even B-Sides such as My Dearest Love are up there. We have had the opportunity to listen to our favorite Morrissey songs hundreds and thousands of times. Listen to his new songs that many times then compare.

Thats the strange thing about Morrissey And i was A Smiths fan in the eighties, i never disliked them at first, some songs are bigger then others... That is the reason why kit not saw the light (at first)

Anonymous
January 10, 2012, 06:27 AM
He should be embarrassed by the three most recent releases--all are mediocre at best when compared to the past.



My list:

1. Viva Hate
2. Strangeways, Here We Come
3. Vauxhall and I
4. Your Arsenal
5. Kill Uncle
6. Rank!
7. Louder Than Bombs
8. Bona Drag
9. Hatful of Hollow
10. The Queen is Dead

Yes!! Viva hate is my 1st

all_men_have_secrets
January 10, 2012, 08:37 PM
Love this debate! Moz can pick whatever he wants, he has the right.But the first Morrissey album I ever heard was You Are The Quarry, and the first Smiths album I ever heard (although a compilation) was Louder Than Bombs, so this is my list:
You Are The Quarry
Louder Than Bombs
The Smiths
Bona Drag
Strangeways, Here We Come
Viva Hate
Meat is Murder
Your Arsenal
The Queen Is Dead
Vauxhall and I

Anonymous
January 11, 2012, 01:25 AM
1. Hatful of Hollow
2. The Smiths
3. Meat Is Murder
4. The Queen Is Dead
5. Viva Hate
6. Vauxhall and I
7. Strangeways, Here We Come
8. Southpaw Grammar
9. Maladjusted

Anonymous
February 2, 2012, 10:17 PM
1. Hatful of Hollow
2. The Smiths
3. Meat Is Murder
4. The Queen Is Dead
5. Viva Hate
6. Vauxhall and I
7. Strangeways, Here We Come
8. Southpaw Grammar
9. MaladjustedMaladjusted,but no ROTT? Strangeways here we are...

Anonymous
February 2, 2012, 10:21 PM
Maladjusted,but no ROTT? Strangeways here we are...H O H,ye,but The Smiths stunk,the john porter album,not the best band indefinitely.

Anonymous
February 2, 2012, 10:33 PM
Maladjusted,but no ROTT? Strangeways here we are...Ringleaders was a great variety of good tunes,a couple of duds,ye but tracks 2 to 9 absolutely morrissey doing what he is capable of with good production.1 thing no alain whyte musical work.

Anonymous
February 2, 2012, 10:47 PM
Vauxhall is played down cos of parlophone bust-up.Does the gold vauxhall really get smashed in Dagenham dave vid? or wud it be a replica? That album brought me back to morrissey since T QUEEN IS DEAD.Havent lost interest since.