View Full Version : Article: Santa Fe, NM - Santa Fe Center (Nov. 19, 2011) post-show
davidt
November 19, 2011, 10:18 PM
You can view the page at http://www.morrissey-solo.com/content/457-Santa-Fe-NM-Santa-Fe-Center-(Nov.-19-2011)-post-show
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 05:50 AM
incorrect setlist
I Want The One I Can't Have
You're The One For Me Fatty
You Have Killed Me
First In The Gang To Die
The Kid's A Looker
Speedway
Maladjusted
Ouija Board
Meat Is Murder
Arms Around Paris
Everyday Is Like Sunday
Action Is My Middle Name
On Day Goodbye
Satellite of Love
I Know It's Over
Alma Matters
Irish Blood, English Heart
Still Ill
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 06:04 AM
Hello Art-Hounds is a good song why not?
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 06:34 AM
Bring that B.S. to Phoenix tomorrow and you'll meet a Morrissey fan who will split your wig you homophobic piece of crap!!!
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 06:48 AM
Which one of your personalities will show up?
B
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 06:51 AM
Awesome show. The band was fantastic and Morrissey's voice sounded great. When he introduced the band he said, "And learning to play guitar very well... Jessie Tobias."
Also said "Your fresh lovely mountain air -- it's killing me."
Claimed he made a joke about "voting for B.O." while in Dallas but that of course he "hadn't, and wouldn't. If ever there was a time for change it is, once again -- now."
The crowd was somewhat subdued but all hell broke loose during Still Ill, with probably 20 people trying to get on stage, and one guy making it up and hugging and kissing Moz. A great ending to a great show, with I Know It's Over and Ouija Board personal favorites.
The set list above is total BS, but someone will post the correct one. Action Man, People are the Same and Scandinavia were the new songs. Maladjusted was great. No Alma Matters sadly....
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 07:11 AM
It really seemed that Moz was struggling with the altitude. Santa Fe's elevation is 7,000 feet above sea level. It was killing me just standing in the crowd!!! I was really suprised with, "The last time I spoke to Carol". Moz once again proved he is deffinetly THE MAN!!!!
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 07:26 AM
Do any of you know the titles of Morrissey's songs?
Andy
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 07:34 AM
Um, whoever is being the moderator -- Carol was played tonight, don't know why that was marked as a troll.
Not sure what the point of Andy's post is. But obviously Action Man was meant to be Action is My Middle Name.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 07:34 AM
He should end the torment and play JACK THE RIPPER
Old Mathew
November 20, 2011, 07:37 AM
It really seemed that Moz was struggling with the altitude. Santa Fe's elevation is 7,000 feet above sea level. It was killing me just standing in the crowd!!! I was really suprised with, "The last time I spoke to Carol". Moz once again proved he is deffinetly THE MAN!!!!
An overzealous moderator incorrectly called this a troll post. Yes, he did play When Last I Spoke to Carol.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 07:51 AM
The point?It was dark as I drove the point home...
Learn Morrissey's lyrics and his titles!
Is that too much to
ASK
peace
Andy
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 08:00 AM
Andy, maybe you should learn the titles of some of Morrissey's unreleased songs before making such an ass of yourself?
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 08:14 AM
Me?
O.K.Anyway
You obviously know nothing.
But
If you say so....
Andy
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 08:15 AM
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/article.pl?sid=08/01/07/0454244
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 08:19 AM
You do realize Action Man is the title of a Morrissey/Whyte composition that has never seen the light of day, don't you?
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 09:06 AM
Action Man???????? What an idiot, get off this site!
davidt
November 20, 2011, 09:31 AM
An overzealous moderator incorrectly called this a troll post. Yes, he did play When Last I Spoke to Carol.
My mistake, troll post removed.
KPUP
November 20, 2011, 09:33 AM
Great Show....All things considered....Where is Lost????
Setlist was changed up a bit....no Alma Matter.... Black Cloud into Carol into Sunday...Ouija Board and Paris were also played.
Sound was horrible. Please demand better of Mozzies deaf Sound Guy! These venues on this tour are high end and suited for pristine sounding MOZ!!!
3/4 full beautiful GA venue about 1200 people; carpeted high wooden ceiling with liquor & $5 beers . Super cool fans from all over....especially all the cats who queued in line over night. Excellent photos and write up in two morning newspapers...One I would say is a collectible. 2 fights broke out over the shirt after Still Ill...Ridiculous people using teeth to get their share.
Dapper Chris from LA got on stage to steal a kiss and hug from the man. Light security let him back into the crowd with only a slightly torn sweater.
Moz was wearing jeans and black vneck sweater and changed shirts only once i think...Band was wearing new white shirts with Mozzies face blown up in black? Go see Moz while you can....
Where is the Manchester show in December??????
Stephanie from Bakersfield and her young ride along friend who got my extra...I can't thank you enough.....hope to see you in LA,Oakland.
Blabbering after quite a few ridiculous after parties...
Enjoy Moz this Tour!!!
K~PUP
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 09:46 AM
manc my boy///meet me at the st francis the day after///there will be nothing futher added
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 11:54 AM
It's nice to here some news from the US tour - keep it coming.
From my previous post in Dallas, I understand why Morrissey sells out in just 10mins - he is class. Boz too. Alain also. For all of your beatings, kickings, soundings and ill-judged comments - which at times have been so far below the belt that they are like a very bad-timed Jonathan Ross joke in the middle of a fantastic interview - so is Jesse. Now you know too.
I don't know anything about Santa Fe, only Santa Ynez, where I am told that a six-hour power outage Monday in the vicinity of Refugio Road and Fancy Hill Court in Santa Ynez is expected to affect only five customers. Cordless telephones, automatic garage doors, irrigation timers and security systems will not work during an outage, Santa Ynez folks are informed!
WHITE LIGHTNING.
With thanksgiving approaching, what's next .................................................. .................................................. ...........................................
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 12:24 PM
Andy: Do you know the titles to Morrissey's unreleased songs ? Or lyrics to the released songs ? - Poor lad !
Thanks for the US tour news. Keep it coming for those of us over here in England who are not related to those idiots
that posted earlier.
Now if we all new a title to one of Morrissey's unreleased songs from 2011/12 - and don't say SCANDINAVIA or ...
NOISE IS THE BEST REVENGE..... But the guitars and keyboards on that song are just amazing. Something like lou reed, david bowie, pink floyd all wrapped together along with neil young and killers. But just better.
x
!Viva Hate!
November 20, 2011, 12:33 PM
Andy: Do you know the titles to Morrissey's unreleased songs ? Or lyrics to the released songs ? - Poor lad !
Thanks for the US tour news. Keep it coming for those of us over here in England who are not related to those idiots
that posted earlier.
Now if we all new a title to one of Morrissey's unreleased songs from 2011/12 - and don't say SCANDINAVIA or ...
NOISE IS THE BEST REVENGE..... But the guitars and keyboards on that song are just amazing. Something like lou reed, david bowie, pink floyd all wrapped together along with neil young and killers. But just better.
x
You're calling someone an idiot for not knowing the title of an unreleased Morrissey song yet you confuse "knew" for "new" and lack any semblance of basic grammar? Amazing.
And for the record, 'Noise Is The Best Revenge' is a Quarry outtake...not a 2011/2012 unreleased track.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 12:35 PM
ACTION MAN
Further to the post above "Action Man" is a song too. It is unrelased and it was by Alain.
Maybe - subject to the usual and unusual and so on - I imagine that it will see the light of day in 2022....
Now i don't actually know that at all, but I do know that it will not be released on "youtube" or EMI or HMV.
EVERY DAY IS LIKE SUNDAY IN STOCKPORT
I wanted to say that "Everyday is like Sunday in Stockport" - is on "youtube"- and this is not an official song, obviously. In fact, this posting was so bad - and that takes something - that the moderators took off the sound track deliberatley and have now placed a classical music track over the original copyrighted track whilst a sad man walks around Stockport (near Manchester if you are in the US) with the brightness set incorrectly on his camcorder. In the end he runs towards the camera up a tiny hill, duh. Action over !
x
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 12:49 PM
__________________________________________________ ______________________________
You're calling someone an idiot for not knowing the title of an unreleased Morrissey song yet you confuse "knew" for "new" and lack any semblance of basic grammar? Amazing.
And for the record, 'Noise Is The Best Revenge' is a Quarry outtake...not a 2011/2012 unreleased track.
__________________________________________________ ______________________________
1_ I called him poor lad. No one is an idiot. Not even me.
2_ "knew" or "new " - i know. that was deliberate.
3_ Noise. I know. But it sounds so fresh in 2011/12 that it was just too good to resist because when you hear it live, you will wet yourself. Boz is just amazing at writing and composing music. He did the same back in 199x too.
I could chew you up and spit you out again, but oh, don't worry, because it's all 'a matter of opinion' as they say,
or tutto è una questione d'opinione, grazie. And that was recorded in 198x.
x
!Viva Hate!
November 20, 2011, 01:45 PM
I could chew you up and spit you out again, but oh, don't worry, because it's all 'a matter of opinion' as they say,
or tutto è una questione d'opinione, grazie. And that was recorded in 198x.
x
Um, no thanks...I'm a heterosexual.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 02:37 PM
Bring that B.S. to Phoenix tomorrow and you'll meet a Morrissey fan who will split your wig you homophobic piece of crap!!!
Listen you fucken piece of dogg shit, you don't want to see me, and I will be waiting for you!
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 02:51 PM
All the back and forth bickering BS is what ruins solo. Shut up and talk about the shows, please. Thanks.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 02:59 PM
All the back and forth bickering BS is what ruins solo. Shut up and talk about the shows, please. Thanks.
I think I saw 1 comment that was actually about the show. More comments about the show please! The last poster was correct enough with the back n forth bs
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 03:34 PM
Did any of you actually see the show?
Please someone..... A real review!!
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 04:01 PM
srsly, can i get a setlist?
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 04:17 PM
Listen you fucken piece of dogg shit, you don't want to see me, and I will be waiting for you!
No mind, no money, no pot to piss in....probably on "crack". A teen-age daddy on his estate?? Mum took the kids away and now he lives in his parents basement...
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 04:26 PM
Morrissey's Horoscope for November 20, 2011:
Don't worry too much if you have not been getting along with a certain individual because you will soon be friends again. You will also find that your opinions were not nearly as far apart as you had previously believed.
celibate
November 20, 2011, 04:31 PM
Iwant a boy for my birthday[just posting something witty and of-topic, seems this thread has no setlist so far so, I jumpthe bandwagon, join
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 04:48 PM
Um, no thanks...I'm a heterosexual.
Uh-huh.
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/115054-Kuiper-Come-Back?highlight=kuiper
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/70173-The-Official-Hello-s-to-Kuiper-Thread?p=509588&viewfull=1#post509588
"I wish you were gay."
Aaaaand then Kuiper pretty much never posted again.
Fat closet case imbecile.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 05:02 PM
Iwant a boy for my birthday[just posting something witty and of-topic, seems this thread has no setlist so far so, I jumpthe bandwagon, join
Queer of the year, Celibate.
!Viva Hate!
November 20, 2011, 05:30 PM
Uh-huh.
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/115054-Kuiper-Come-Back?highlight=kuiper
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/70173-The-Official-Hello-s-to-Kuiper-Thread?p=509588&viewfull=1#post509588
"I wish you were gay."
Aaaaand then Kuiper pretty much never posted again.
Fat closet case imbecile.
Yeah, he pretty much never posted again after that...oh, except for those 7 months after that when he posted a couple thousand more times.
Get a life...or end yours. Either way works for me.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 05:32 PM
If this is the real set-list, then interesting that no FOTG or Irish Blood was played at all.
Haven't seen any comments on back-drop, or merchandise, or really anything interesting at all. There's really no GOSS! x
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 05:59 PM
If this is the real set-list, then interesting that no FOTG or Irish Blood was played at all.
Haven't seen any comments on back-drop, or merchandise, or really anything interesting at all. There's really no GOSS! x
I miss the days of great reviews with links to photos, set lists, and posts that contain banter between songs, too. Whatever happened to those days? I can tell you the back drop is the same from the European tour and there are supposedly mini boxing gloves that say "MORRISSEY" on them (which I want so badly!) One shirt is of Morrissey getting his hair cut; one where he's wearing the England shirt (with the cross), and one has a large print of his face. No signed cardboard cut-outs that I've heard. I haven't been to any of the shows. This is just from what I've seen over at www.allyouneedismorrissey.com They have had great concert reviews up until late. Don't really know why its slowed down so much.
Anyway, that's all I've got. Hope that helped a little.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 06:26 PM
Yeah, he pretty much never posted again after that...oh, except for those 7 months after that when he posted a couple thousand more times.
Sorry, I was misled by the fact that he deleted all of his posts to you after that point. You sure freaked him out. If you were that forward in forum posts, I can't IMAGINE the PM's.
It would be nice if you could accept yourself. Instead, you're declaring your extreme str8ness on a monthly basis, crossing the country so a fat goth chick can bottle your cum, and generally taking your rage out on strangers over the internet. Sad life, tubby.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 07:40 PM
WOW! So let's talk a bit about the show: Having seen The Pixies just 3 nights ago in the same venue--it was interesting to see the different crowd. Very mellow, cool crowd. Coming into the Convention Centre---a couple of of animal rights groups were set up and handing out info. Mozz had a poster for sale--the one of him in the bath --feet up towards the viewer. There were also many shirts, the one with the cat on his head, a younger shot with him looking skyward, the newer scrunched face gray haired Mozz shot and a few simple "Morrissey" only options.
The opener was a woman named Kristeen Young---up there with a synthesizer and a huge image of herself shot onto a large piece of fabric (in the image she has long dark braids and is pointing a rifle away from the viewer in black and white. She was sort of modern day attempt at Kate Bush meets Laurie Anderson (some will disagree). She ended---the house lights came up---an ice-cold Nut Brown Ale later --then bam! --the boys came on. Morrissey in blue jeans, a black and white bandana for a belt and a tightish v-neck black sweater. He looked pretty damn svelte---he came to the microphone and said "Hello Santa Fe!" I don't remember the exact order and missed one or two--but the majority of the setlist is:
I Want The One I Can't Have / You Have Killed Me / You're The One For Me, Fatty / When Last I Spoke To Carol / Everyday Is Like Sunday / Maladjusted / Meat Is Murder / I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris / Action Is My Middle Name / Speedway / Ouija Board, Ouija Board / All The Lazy Dykes / Scandinavia / I Know It's Over // Still Ill
Along the way, he said things like. "It's Saturday in night in Santa Fe, what do you have to lose!?" He made the comment about the fresh mountain air killing him and later "At no other time could I use a good dose of pollution!" He talked about Obama--referring to him as "BO"--but I wasn't quite sure if he was endorsing Obama or putting him down.
Before "Meat is Murder"--he went into a talk about "ThanksKilling" and animal rights stuff. Even in liberal Santa Fe---the audience seemed a little silent to his remarks regarding vegetarianism etc. His rendition of Meat is Murder was quite rousing and affected in the chorus--more so than I can ever remember.
His band looked like they could all be related--all dark haired, smallish, same haircuts and demeanor--which is to say--the truly did their job backing up the Man--there was not alot of fanfare or solos---the lead came to the front a few times--but the music really focused Morrissey as one might expect---this band was MUCH better than previous iterations I have seen---all were wearing black and white t-shirts with the Art Hounds logo (right?) ---which was also en blazed on the kick drum. The band was tight--the keyboardist played a trumpet on a YOR song (very well)--the bass was pumping---both rhythm and lead guitarists were great. The drummer, too, was excellent---his kit included a HUGE gong and an other large sinew snare---they finished a few songs with the gong being wailed on until all other music was drowned out--not especially a tight finish, but interesting, nevertheless. Morrissey played a tambourine on one number. The sound guys were set up mid field in the crowd and he had two spotlight people high right and left. The sound was well arranged and balanced---much better than The Pixies this same week.
Mozz was really on--- no doubt. He was a bit winded at times (yes, Santa Fe is around 7 000 feet up) and sweating profusely under the can lights--mopping his brow and neck alot. He improvised lyrics a few times---once when a guy was being walked over the crowd with his arm stretched out to Morrissey and trying to reach the stage---Morrissey sang, "amigo, look at the brave amigo"---can't remember the exact song, sorry. Mozz touched many a hand during the performance and walked the stage edge to edge many times.
Before the encore--Still Ill--he came back on stage wearing a blue sort of chambray shirt---I'm thinking he bought 50 from Gap for the tour---at the end, in signature style---he stripped it and tossed it into the crowd and sort of danced off stage--turning a few times--then he was gone. The band threw their picks, sticks and something else---I almost got a stick...two guys actually made it onto stage--one embracing Mozz fully and kissing him---Mozz rolled with it and the guy was very gently taken off stage--they actually slowly lowered the guy back into the crowd.
So--this, I hope..... does a fair attempt at reviewing a really superb show--please forgive mistakes in spelling, order and/or grammar.
A good friend of mine handled the catering for the band --the guys had vegetable Mediterranean cous cous---Mozz apparently ate alone and needed the space prior to the show to himself for 15 minutes. Diva-tude present but not overwhelming.
Happy Holidays / Peace
I have a couple iPhone videos I might post later
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 07:52 PM
What the hell? Why are so many surprised he isn't doing Alma Matters? Did I miss something?
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 08:00 PM
Wow, Anon at 7:40, the first interesting post I've read on this site since the tour started. Thank you very much indeed.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 08:04 PM
Wow, Anon at 7:40, the first interesting post I've read on this site since the tour started. Thank you very much indeed.
That is just so much bullshit. There have been a lot of interesting posts on this site lately, calling Morrissey a racist, saying he has AIDS, etc. Some people don't appreciate the service this site provides.
Piss off to AYNIM!
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 08:08 PM
He's played Alma Matters once or twice on this leg... I made the earlier comment about no Alma... Less surprise than mild disappointment that it wasn't played in Santa Fe.
On phone, sorry for any typos.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 08:08 PM
Finally! A great detailed review of the show......Thank you so much for posting; looking forward to viewing your videos!
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 08:11 PM
Wow, Anon at 7:40, the first interesting post I've read on this site since the tour started. Thank you very much indeed.
My pleasure!
Agreed on The Alma Matters thing---seems he has done it the last few nights--but not last night.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 08:14 PM
That is just so much bullshit. There have been a lot of interesting posts on this site lately, calling Morrissey a racist, saying he has AIDS, etc. Some people don't appreciate the service this site provides.
Piss off to AYNIM!
You're an idiot.
CrystalGeezer
November 20, 2011, 08:26 PM
Thanks for the detailed review. I would only add that I think Kristeen's backdrop is a character from a movie, not her. Maybe Jane Fonda? I forget.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 08:37 PM
That is just so much bullshit. There have been a lot of interesting posts on this site lately, calling Morrissey a racist, saying he has AIDS, etc. Some people don't appreciate the service this site provides.
Piss off to AYNIM!
What an absolute prick you are.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 08:49 PM
What is AYNIM?
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 08:54 PM
No mind, no money, no pot to piss in....probably on "crack". A teen-age daddy on his estate?? Mum took the kids away and now he lives in his parents basement...
Don't be normal. Be a freak, and be happy....probably on a "methadone-induced high" The kids are alright! mo money in they pockets, golden toilets to piss in, Got money on my mind.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 09:13 PM
AYNIM= All You Need Is Morrissey
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 09:25 PM
WOW! So let's talk a bit about the show: Having seen The Pixies just 3 nights ago in the same venue--it was interesting to see the different crowd. Very mellow, cool crowd. Coming into the Convention Centre---a couple of of animal rights groups were set up and handing out info. Mozz had a poster for sale--the one of him in the bath --feet up towards the viewer. There were also many shirts, the one with the cat on his head, a younger shot with him looking skyward, the newer scrunched face gray haired Mozz shot and a few simple "Morrissey" only options.
The opener was a woman named Kristeen Young---up there with a synthesizer and a huge image of herself shot onto a large piece of fabric (in the image she has long dark braids and is pointing a rifle away from the viewer in black and white. She was sort of modern day attempt at Kate Bush meets Laurie Anderson (some will disagree). She ended---the house lights came up---an ice-cold Nut Brown Ale later --then bam! --the boys came on. Morrissey in blue jeans, a black and white bandana for a belt and a tightish v-neck black sweater. He looked pretty damn svelte---he came to the microphone and said "Hello Santa Fe!" I don't remember the exact order and missed one or two--but the majority of the setlist is:
I Want The One I Can't Have / You Have Killed Me / You're The One For Me, Fatty / When Last I Spoke To Carol / Everyday Is Like Sunday / Maladjusted / Meat Is Murder / I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris / Action Is My Middle Name / Speedway / Ouija Board, Ouija Board / All The Lazy Dykes / Scandinavia / I Know It's Over // Still Ill
Along the way, he said things like. "It's Saturday in night in Santa Fe, what do you have to lose!?" He made the comment about the fresh mountain air killing him and later "At no other time could I use a good dose of pollution!" He talked about Obama--referring to him as "BO"--but I wasn't quite sure if he was endorsing Obama or putting him down.
Before "Meat is Murder"--he went into a talk about "ThanksKilling" and animal rights stuff. Even in liberal Santa Fe---the audience seemed a little silent to his remarks regarding vegetarianism etc. His rendition of Meat is Murder was quite rousing and affected in the chorus--more so than I can ever remember.
His band looked like they could all be related--all dark haired, smallish, same haircuts and demeanor--which is to say--the truly did their job backing up the Man--there was not alot of fanfare or solos---the lead came to the front a few times--but the music really focused Morrissey as one might expect---this band was MUCH better than previous iterations I have seen---all were wearing black and white t-shirts with the Art Hounds logo (right?) ---which was also en blazed on the kick drum. The band was tight--the keyboardist played a trumpet on a YOR song (very well)--the bass was pumping---both rhythm and lead guitarists were great. The drummer, too, was excellent---his kit included a HUGE gong and an other large sinew snare---they finished a few songs with the gong being wailed on until all other music was drowned out--not especially a tight finish, but interesting, nevertheless. Morrissey played a tambourine on one number. The sound guys were set up mid field in the crowd and he had two spotlight people high right and left. The sound was well arranged and balanced---much better than The Pixies this same week.
Mozz was really on--- no doubt. He was a bit winded at times (yes, Santa Fe is around 7 000 feet up) and sweating profusely under the can lights--mopping his brow and neck alot. He improvised lyrics a few times---once when a guy was being walked over the crowd with his arm stretched out to Morrissey and trying to reach the stage---Morrissey sang, "amigo, look at the brave amigo"---can't remember the exact song, sorry. Mozz touched many a hand during the performance and walked the stage edge to edge many times.
Before the encore--Still Ill--he came back on stage wearing a blue sort of chambray shirt---I'm thinking he bought 50 from Gap for the tour---at the end, in signature style---he stripped it and tossed it into the crowd and sort of danced off stage--turning a few times--then he was gone. The band threw their picks, sticks and something else---I almost got a stick...two guys actually made it onto stage--one embracing Mozz fully and kissing him---Mozz rolled with it and the guy was very gently taken off stage--they actually slowly lowered the guy back into the crowd.
So--this, I hope..... does a fair attempt at reviewing a really superb show--please forgive mistakes in spelling, order and/or grammar.
A good friend of mine handled the catering for the band --the guys had vegetable Mediterranean cous cous---Mozz apparently ate alone and needed the space prior to the show to himself for 15 minutes. Diva-tude present but not overwhelming.
Happy Holidays / Peace
I have a couple iPhone videos I might post later
Great post, GREAT SHOW FOR THE MOZZ.....
gretchenraine
November 20, 2011, 09:59 PM
Thanks for the detailed review. I would only add that I think Kristeen's backdrop is a character from a movie, not her. Maybe Jane Fonda? I forget.
*waves at CG* :)
Kristeen's backdrop is a photo of the late French artist Niki de Saint Phalle. St. Phalle did a series of paintings called 'shooting paintings,' basically shooting a plaster canvas that encased bags of paint. At the time it was considered a radical feminist statement. She would sometimes perform these shootings as public performance art, and would recite feminist poems and writings inbetween the firings of the rifle. The final 'shooting painting' was made by her in 1963.
Example of a finished piece:
http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac284/gretchenraine/misc/shootingpicture.jpg
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 10:06 PM
off-topic
She isn't fat? She looks fat. How can someone look fat without being fat?
You're fat too. Why would she fuck a fat boy if she weren't a fat girl?
She's not goth? She just wears too much makeup and likes 80's bands? I think that's called a goth.
I don't really know about the Kuiper thing apart from your wanting to have sex with him. Are you saying he was into it?
Not actually sure how often you've said you're straight, just that you announce it bluntly and awkwardly every once in a while--not normal behavior. You're saying you're not straight now? Kuiper turned you gay, but you're straight again thanks to the fat goth girl?
I don't know how often you travel! Funny you had to cross the country to get laid, though. Most people just go to a bar or something.
Point is, you are angry because you are a fat closet case. Point is, put down the Snickers and suck a dick.
He does look fat. Fat enough that he shouldn't be calling anyone else fat, but he does. She doesn't look fit or trim, either, in fact, quite ill, a product of pure laziness, but she does have some redeeming qualities, not many, well, one; youth. And that is all. It's sad that these kids have latched on to a movement that has long since died, at least, the real "goth" people have, years ago. All these types are now are wanna be hipsters and completely phony. It's a product of where she was brought up and a broken home. But I digress.
As far as Kuiper, he is Kuiper. No big mystery. He was revealing his gay side in his own sick and twisted way, but not to a real person, the coward that he is. Fact is, and mark my words, they won't last, the way he is. She will tire of catering to him, if she isn't already tired. She puts up with it now because she's desperate, totally desperate, the real world has set in and she's scared she won't find anyone.
You see, when he was banned in the forums, he went elsewhere as Scott and various other names, some had OBGYN attached to it and unleashed complete chaos there. Backstabbing people, making alliances and backstabbing people again and again and again. It was his only outlet because of the banning. He even created a mock public suicide in the chat on Christmas or New Years a few years back, but it only killed Scott, the character.
I don't find it funny that he traveled across the US to get laid, he's very disturbed and you know this already, along with him being desperate.
Point is, you're right. But so what? He is a fat closet case, but you were his friend, so what does that say about you? Maybe nothing, the internet is a weird place. The truth is, his arrogance and brains convinced him that he was really going to be something, but he hasn't amounted to anything. Just another psycho on the metro, poking fun at others. This is the definition of a complete loser. But they'll have their little fling for a while, they'll profess love and commitment, but it will most definitely end, she'll go crying back to Mah, which will set her pace for the rest of her days. Ahhhhh. She'll run back to Mah...and so on. The truth is, he's incapable of loving, in the end. Anyone that is so hateful and spews so much bitterness to his fellow man couldn't possibly love at the same time, it's impossible (even Morrissey knows this). He will turn the hate on her one day, she will be embarrassed and she will regret everything and I mean, everything. But, you are right, you were right, you are right. Then again, if she's as shallow as she appears, they could be a perfect match! I don't care either way.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 10:09 PM
WOW! So let's talk a bit about the show: Having seen The Pixies just 3 nights ago in the same venue--it was interesting to see the different crowd. Very mellow, cool crowd. Coming into the Convention Centre---a couple of of animal rights groups were set up and handing out info. Mozz had a poster for sale--the one of him in the bath --feet up towards the viewer. There were also many shirts, the one with the cat on his head, a younger shot with him looking skyward, the newer scrunched face gray haired Mozz shot and a few simple "Morrissey" only options.
The opener was a woman named Kristeen Young---up there with a synthesizer and a huge image of herself shot onto a large piece of fabric (in the image she has long dark braids and is pointing a rifle away from the viewer in black and white. She was sort of modern day attempt at Kate Bush meets Laurie Anderson (some will disagree). She ended---the house lights came up---an ice-cold Nut Brown Ale later --then bam! --the boys came on. Morrissey in blue jeans, a black and white bandana for a belt and a tightish v-neck black sweater. He looked pretty damn svelte---he came to the microphone and said "Hello Santa Fe!" I don't remember the exact order and missed one or two--but the majority of the setlist is:
I Want The One I Can't Have / You Have Killed Me / You're The One For Me, Fatty / When Last I Spoke To Carol / Everyday Is Like Sunday / Maladjusted / Meat Is Murder / I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris / Action Is My Middle Name / Speedway / Ouija Board, Ouija Board / All The Lazy Dykes / Scandinavia / I Know It's Over // Still Ill
Along the way, he said things like. "It's Saturday in night in Santa Fe, what do you have to lose!?" He made the comment about the fresh mountain air killing him and later "At no other time could I use a good dose of pollution!" He talked about Obama--referring to him as "BO"--but I wasn't quite sure if he was endorsing Obama or putting him down.
Before "Meat is Murder"--he went into a talk about "ThanksKilling" and animal rights stuff. Even in liberal Santa Fe---the audience seemed a little silent to his remarks regarding vegetarianism etc. His rendition of Meat is Murder was quite rousing and affected in the chorus--more so than I can ever remember.
His band looked like they could all be related--all dark haired, smallish, same haircuts and demeanor--which is to say--the truly did their job backing up the Man--there was not alot of fanfare or solos---the lead came to the front a few times--but the music really focused Morrissey as one might expect---this band was MUCH better than previous iterations I have seen---all were wearing black and white t-shirts with the Art Hounds logo (right?) ---which was also en blazed on the kick drum. The band was tight--the keyboardist played a trumpet on a YOR song (very well)--the bass was pumping---both rhythm and lead guitarists were great. The drummer, too, was excellent---his kit included a HUGE gong and an other large sinew snare---they finished a few songs with the gong being wailed on until all other music was drowned out--not especially a tight finish, but interesting, nevertheless. Morrissey played a tambourine on one number. The sound guys were set up mid field in the crowd and he had two spotlight people high right and left. The sound was well arranged and balanced---much better than The Pixies this same week.
Mozz was really on--- no doubt. He was a bit winded at times (yes, Santa Fe is around 7 000 feet up) and sweating profusely under the can lights--mopping his brow and neck alot. He improvised lyrics a few times---once when a guy was being walked over the crowd with his arm stretched out to Morrissey and trying to reach the stage---Morrissey sang, "amigo, look at the brave amigo"---can't remember the exact song, sorry. Mozz touched many a hand during the performance and walked the stage edge to edge many times.
Before the encore--Still Ill--he came back on stage wearing a blue sort of chambray shirt---I'm thinking he bought 50 from Gap for the tour---at the end, in signature style---he stripped it and tossed it into the crowd and sort of danced off stage--turning a few times--then he was gone. The band threw their picks, sticks and something else---I almost got a stick...two guys actually made it onto stage--one embracing Mozz fully and kissing him---Mozz rolled with it and the guy was very gently taken off stage--they actually slowly lowered the guy back into the crowd.
So--this, I hope..... does a fair attempt at reviewing a really superb show--please forgive mistakes in spelling, order and/or grammar.
A good friend of mine handled the catering for the band --the guys had vegetable Mediterranean cous cous---Mozz apparently ate alone and needed the space prior to the show to himself for 15 minutes. Diva-tude present but not overwhelming.
Happy Holidays / Peace
I have a couple iPhone videos I might post later
This was a great review!! Thanks so much!
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 10:13 PM
Thank you, 7:40 for such a great review of the show. It's what we've all been waiting for!
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 10:18 PM
Oh yeah, and great review at 7:40 too. ;)
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 10:51 PM
I not quite sure what the picture was on the backdrop was, but it was a man kneeling in front of a half nude woman turned to her side. Does anyone know what this picture is from?
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 10:53 PM
He does look fat. Fat enough that he shouldn't be calling anyone else fat, but he does. She doesn't look fit or trim, either, in fact, quite ill, a product of pure laziness, but she does have some redeeming qualities, not many, well, one; youth. And that is all. It's sad that these kids have latched on to a movement that has long since died, at least, the real "goth" people have, years ago. All these types are now are wanna be hipsters and completely phony. It's a product of where she was brought up and a broken home. But I digress.
As far as Kuiper, he is Kuiper. No big mystery. He was revealing his gay side in his own sick and twisted way, but not to a real person, the coward that he is. Fact is, and mark my words, they won't last, the way he is. She will tire of catering to him, if she isn't already tired. She puts up with it now because she's desperate, totally desperate, the real world has set in and she's scared she won't find anyone.
You see, when he was banned in the forums, he went elsewhere as Scott and various other names, some had OBGYN attached to it and unleashed complete chaos there. Backstabbing people, making alliances and backstabbing people again and again and again. It was his only outlet because of the banning. He even created a mock public suicide in the chat on Christmas or New Years a few years back, but it only killed Scott, the character.
I don't find it funny that he traveled across the US to get laid, he's very disturbed and you know this already, along with him being desperate.
Point is, you're right. But so what? He is a fat closet case, but you were his friend, so what does that say about you? Maybe nothing, the internet is a weird place. The truth is, his arrogance and brains convinced him that he was really going to be something, but he hasn't amounted to anything. Just another psycho on the metro, poking fun at others. This is the definition of a complete loser. But they'll have their little fling for a while, they'll profess love and commitment, but it will most definitely end, she'll go crying back to Mah, which will set her pace for the rest of her days. Ahhhhh. She'll run back to Mah...and so on. The truth is, he's incapable of loving, in the end. Anyone that is so hateful and spews so much bitterness to his fellow man couldn't possibly love at the same time, it's impossible (even Morrissey knows this). He will turn the hate on her one day, she will be embarrassed and she will regret everything and I mean, everything. But, you are right, you were right, you are right. Then again, if she's as shallow as she appears, they could be a perfect match! I don't care either way.
Aaah, so he was the infamous Scott. Interesting. Thanks for info.
and yes, thank you 7.40 Anon for taking the time to write the review.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 11:07 PM
Wait, VivaHate was Scott?
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 11:13 PM
Aaah, so he was the infamous Scott. Interesting. Thanks for info.
and yes, thank you 7.40 Anon for taking the time to write the review.
Please ignore posts which are made at 12:33 / 12:49 / 4:48 / 5:30 / 6:26 / 10:06
These trolls used to fight in old chatroom. They are totally unreliable, only come here to destruct other users.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 11:21 PM
Please ignore posts which are made at 12:33 / 12:49 / 4:48 / 5:30 / 6:26 / 10:06
These trolls used to fight in old chatroom. They are totally unreliable, only come here to destruct other users.
Troll Post.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 11:31 PM
Please ignore posts which are made at 12:33 / 12:49 / 4:48 / 5:30 / 6:26 / 10:06
These trolls used to fight in old chatroom. They are totally unreliable, only come here to destruct other users.
^Kewpie. You can tell by the excellent mastery of the English language.
Anonymous
November 20, 2011, 11:36 PM
^Kewpie. You can tell by the excellent mastery of the English language.
Lol, I know, it's so obvious!
Anonymous
November 21, 2011, 12:34 AM
Everyone on here is but a figment of their own imagination. They argue with themselves and ridicule themselves and yes they are themselves. There are maybe 5 actual people on this thread, unfortunately there are 12 different personalities. Send me a sign, sand are the same person everywhere all the time on here. Hoist me from the herd. Really it should be absurd. Sand are the same person all the time on here. Then our creator had to stumble and fall. Our creator had to make the biggest mistake of all. Send me a sign. Viva Hate equals Paul. Yes insanity can be classic in the Morrissey-solo way. It’s the same person talking to themselves on here every day. Mentally they are not fully there. Depressed and stressed they sit here talking to themselves with nowhere to go. We don’t know. We do. Pardon? Add on get a grip you are not in reality now go crazy. Now panic. Because you can’t cope with it, you get it. You are mentally unbalanced Party lines are boring and so is conference calling. I can’t find what I just wrote, this is insane,
Perhaps his next song might be an ode to this sad waste land where there are 60 messages or so on his concert thread with but 1 actual review, the rest just the ravings of the insane
So here's to the site you've torn out the heart of
Schizophrenics find yourself another web site to be part of
I want to eat the soil.
CrystalGeezer
November 21, 2011, 12:36 AM
*waves at CG* :)
Kristeen's backdrop is a photo of the late French artist Niki de Saint Phalle. St. Phalle did a series of paintings called 'shooting paintings,' basically shooting a plaster canvas that encased bags of paint. At the time it was considered a radical feminist statement. She would sometimes perform these shootings as public performance art, and would recite feminist poems and writings inbetween the firings of the rifle. The final 'shooting painting' was made by her in 1963.
Example of a finished piece:
http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac284/gretchenraine/misc/shootingpicture.jpg
Cool, thanks for working on a Sunday, Gretch! ;) (She's an art history librarian. :thumb:)
Anonymous
November 21, 2011, 01:46 AM
Santa Fe=Disappointment
Anonymous
November 21, 2011, 02:14 AM
My mistake, troll post removed.
Troll Post.
King Leer
November 21, 2011, 07:18 AM
Thank you for the detailed review! They're so very rare on the main board these days.
Hope other people follow this lead and drown out the anonymous sludge with words about the live shows, especially since Morrissey seems to really have gotten his live mojo back.
Por favor!
WOW! So let's talk a bit about the show: Having seen The Pixies just 3 nights ago in the same venue--it was interesting to see the different crowd. Very mellow, cool crowd. Coming into the Convention Centre---a couple of of animal rights groups were set up and handing out info. Mozz had a poster for sale--the one of him in the bath --feet up towards the viewer. There were also many shirts, the one with the cat on his head, a younger shot with him looking skyward, the newer scrunched face gray haired Mozz shot and a few simple "Morrissey" only options.
The opener was a woman named Kristeen Young---up there with a synthesizer and a huge image of herself shot onto a large piece of fabric (in the image she has long dark braids and is pointing a rifle away from the viewer in black and white. She was sort of modern day attempt at Kate Bush meets Laurie Anderson (some will disagree). She ended---the house lights came up---an ice-cold Nut Brown Ale later --then bam! --the boys came on. Morrissey in blue jeans, a black and white bandana for a belt and a tightish v-neck black sweater. He looked pretty damn svelte---he came to the microphone and said "Hello Santa Fe!" I don't remember the exact order and missed one or two--but the majority of the setlist is:
I Want The One I Can't Have / You Have Killed Me / You're The One For Me, Fatty / When Last I Spoke To Carol / Everyday Is Like Sunday / Maladjusted / Meat Is Murder / I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris / Action Is My Middle Name / Speedway / Ouija Board, Ouija Board / All The Lazy Dykes / Scandinavia / I Know It's Over // Still Ill
Along the way, he said things like. "It's Saturday in night in Santa Fe, what do you have to lose!?" He made the comment about the fresh mountain air killing him and later "At no other time could I use a good dose of pollution!" He talked about Obama--referring to him as "BO"--but I wasn't quite sure if he was endorsing Obama or putting him down.
Before "Meat is Murder"--he went into a talk about "ThanksKilling" and animal rights stuff. Even in liberal Santa Fe---the audience seemed a little silent to his remarks regarding vegetarianism etc. His rendition of Meat is Murder was quite rousing and affected in the chorus--more so than I can ever remember.
His band looked like they could all be related--all dark haired, smallish, same haircuts and demeanor--which is to say--the truly did their job backing up the Man--there was not alot of fanfare or solos---the lead came to the front a few times--but the music really focused Morrissey as one might expect---this band was MUCH better than previous iterations I have seen---all were wearing black and white t-shirts with the Art Hounds logo (right?) ---which was also en blazed on the kick drum. The band was tight--the keyboardist played a trumpet on a YOR song (very well)--the bass was pumping---both rhythm and lead guitarists were great. The drummer, too, was excellent---his kit included a HUGE gong and an other large sinew snare---they finished a few songs with the gong being wailed on until all other music was drowned out--not especially a tight finish, but interesting, nevertheless. Morrissey played a tambourine on one number. The sound guys were set up mid field in the crowd and he had two spotlight people high right and left. The sound was well arranged and balanced---much better than The Pixies this same week.
Mozz was really on--- no doubt. He was a bit winded at times (yes, Santa Fe is around 7 000 feet up) and sweating profusely under the can lights--mopping his brow and neck alot. He improvised lyrics a few times---once when a guy was being walked over the crowd with his arm stretched out to Morrissey and trying to reach the stage---Morrissey sang, "amigo, look at the brave amigo"---can't remember the exact song, sorry. Mozz touched many a hand during the performance and walked the stage edge to edge many times.
Before the encore--Still Ill--he came back on stage wearing a blue sort of chambray shirt---I'm thinking he bought 50 from Gap for the tour---at the end, in signature style---he stripped it and tossed it into the crowd and sort of danced off stage--turning a few times--then he was gone. The band threw their picks, sticks and something else---I almost got a stick...two guys actually made it onto stage--one embracing Mozz fully and kissing him---Mozz rolled with it and the guy was very gently taken off stage--they actually slowly lowered the guy back into the crowd.
So--this, I hope..... does a fair attempt at reviewing a really superb show--please forgive mistakes in spelling, order and/or grammar.
A good friend of mine handled the catering for the band --the guys had vegetable Mediterranean cous cous---Mozz apparently ate alone and needed the space prior to the show to himself for 15 minutes. Diva-tude present but not overwhelming.
Happy Holidays / Peace
I have a couple iPhone videos I might post later
Anonymous
November 21, 2011, 11:15 AM
WOW! So let's talk a bit about the show: Having seen The Pixies just 3 nights ago in the same venue--it was interesting to see the different crowd. Very mellow, cool crowd. Coming into the Convention Centre---a couple of of animal rights groups were set up and handing out info. Mozz had a poster for sale--the one of him in the bath --feet up towards the viewer. There were also many shirts, the one with the cat on his head, a younger shot with him looking skyward, the newer scrunched face gray haired Mozz shot and a few simple "Morrissey" only options.
The opener was a woman named Kristeen Young---up there with a synthesizer and a huge image of herself shot onto a large piece of fabric (in the image she has long dark braids and is pointing a rifle away from the viewer in black and white. She was sort of modern day attempt at Kate Bush meets Laurie Anderson (some will disagree). She ended---the house lights came up---an ice-cold Nut Brown Ale later --then bam! --the boys came on. Morrissey in blue jeans, a black and white bandana for a belt and a tightish v-neck black sweater. He looked pretty damn svelte---he came to the microphone and said "Hello Santa Fe!" I don't remember the exact order and missed one or two--but the majority of the setlist is:
I Want The One I Can't Have / You Have Killed Me / You're The One For Me, Fatty / When Last I Spoke To Carol / Everyday Is Like Sunday / Maladjusted / Meat Is Murder / I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris / Action Is My Middle Name / Speedway / Ouija Board, Ouija Board / All The Lazy Dykes / Scandinavia / I Know It's Over // Still Ill
Along the way, he said things like. "It's Saturday in night in Santa Fe, what do you have to lose!?" He made the comment about the fresh mountain air killing him and later "At no other time could I use a good dose of pollution!" He talked about Obama--referring to him as "BO"--but I wasn't quite sure if he was endorsing Obama or putting him down.
Before "Meat is Murder"--he went into a talk about "ThanksKilling" and animal rights stuff. Even in liberal Santa Fe---the audience seemed a little silent to his remarks regarding vegetarianism etc. His rendition of Meat is Murder was quite rousing and affected in the chorus--more so than I can ever remember.
His band looked like they could all be related--all dark haired, smallish, same haircuts and demeanor--which is to say--the truly did their job backing up the Man--there was not alot of fanfare or solos---the lead came to the front a few times--but the music really focused Morrissey as one might expect---this band was MUCH better than previous iterations I have seen---all were wearing black and white t-shirts with the Art Hounds logo (right?) ---which was also en blazed on the kick drum. The band was tight--the keyboardist played a trumpet on a YOR song (very well)--the bass was pumping---both rhythm and lead guitarists were great. The drummer, too, was excellent---his kit included a HUGE gong and an other large sinew snare---they finished a few songs with the gong being wailed on until all other music was drowned out--not especially a tight finish, but interesting, nevertheless. Morrissey played a tambourine on one number. The sound guys were set up mid field in the crowd and he had two spotlight people high right and left. The sound was well arranged and balanced---much better than The Pixies this same week.
Mozz was really on--- no doubt. He was a bit winded at times (yes, Santa Fe is around 7 000 feet up) and sweating profusely under the can lights--mopping his brow and neck alot. He improvised lyrics a few times---once when a guy was being walked over the crowd with his arm stretched out to Morrissey and trying to reach the stage---Morrissey sang, "amigo, look at the brave amigo"---can't remember the exact song, sorry. Mozz touched many a hand during the performance and walked the stage edge to edge many times.
Before the encore--Still Ill--he came back on stage wearing a blue sort of chambray shirt---I'm thinking he bought 50 from Gap for the tour---at the end, in signature style---he stripped it and tossed it into the crowd and sort of danced off stage--turning a few times--then he was gone. The band threw their picks, sticks and something else---I almost got a stick...two guys actually made it onto stage--one embracing Mozz fully and kissing him---Mozz rolled with it and the guy was very gently taken off stage--they actually slowly lowered the guy back into the crowd.
So--this, I hope..... does a fair attempt at reviewing a really superb show--please forgive mistakes in spelling, order and/or grammar.
A good friend of mine handled the catering for the band --the guys had vegetable Mediterranean cous cous---Mozz apparently ate alone and needed the space prior to the show to himself for 15 minutes. Diva-tude present but not overwhelming.
Happy Holidays / Peace
I have a couple iPhone videos I might post later
Thanks for being a rare intelligent and sane poster on here. Good post - actually interesting as well
Peterb
November 21, 2011, 11:21 AM
WOW! So let's talk a bit about the show: Having seen The Pixies just 3 nights ago in the same venue--it was interesting to see the different crowd. Very mellow, cool crowd. Coming into the Convention Centre---a couple of of animal rights groups were set up and handing out info. Mozz had a poster for sale--the one of him in the bath --feet up towards the viewer. There were also many shirts, the one with the cat on his head, a younger shot with him looking skyward, the newer scrunched face gray haired Mozz shot and a few simple "Morrissey" only options.
The opener was a woman named Kristeen Young---up there with a synthesizer and a huge image of herself shot onto a large piece of fabric (in the image she has long dark braids and is pointing a rifle away from the viewer in black and white. She was sort of modern day attempt at Kate Bush meets Laurie Anderson (some will disagree). She ended---the house lights came up---an ice-cold Nut Brown Ale later --then bam! --the boys came on. Morrissey in blue jeans, a black and white bandana for a belt and a tightish v-neck black sweater. He looked pretty damn svelte---he came to the microphone and said "Hello Santa Fe!" I don't remember the exact order and missed one or two--but the majority of the setlist is:
I Want The One I Can't Have / You Have Killed Me / You're The One For Me, Fatty / When Last I Spoke To Carol / Everyday Is Like Sunday / Maladjusted / Meat Is Murder / I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris / Action Is My Middle Name / Speedway / Ouija Board, Ouija Board / All The Lazy Dykes / Scandinavia / I Know It's Over // Still Ill
Along the way, he said things like. "It's Saturday in night in Santa Fe, what do you have to lose!?" He made the comment about the fresh mountain air killing him and later "At no other time could I use a good dose of pollution!" He talked about Obama--referring to him as "BO"--but I wasn't quite sure if he was endorsing Obama or putting him down.
Before "Meat is Murder"--he went into a talk about "ThanksKilling" and animal rights stuff. Even in liberal Santa Fe---the audience seemed a little silent to his remarks regarding vegetarianism etc. His rendition of Meat is Murder was quite rousing and affected in the chorus--more so than I can ever remember.
His band looked like they could all be related--all dark haired, smallish, same haircuts and demeanor--which is to say--the truly did their job backing up the Man--there was not alot of fanfare or solos---the lead came to the front a few times--but the music really focused Morrissey as one might expect---this band was MUCH better than previous iterations I have seen---all were wearing black and white t-shirts with the Art Hounds logo (right?) ---which was also en blazed on the kick drum. The band was tight--the keyboardist played a trumpet on a YOR song (very well)--the bass was pumping---both rhythm and lead guitarists were great. The drummer, too, was excellent---his kit included a HUGE gong and an other large sinew snare---they finished a few songs with the gong being wailed on until all other music was drowned out--not especially a tight finish, but interesting, nevertheless. Morrissey played a tambourine on one number. The sound guys were set up mid field in the crowd and he had two spotlight people high right and left. The sound was well arranged and balanced---much better than The Pixies this same week.
Mozz was really on--- no doubt. He was a bit winded at times (yes, Santa Fe is around 7 000 feet up) and sweating profusely under the can lights--mopping his brow and neck alot. He improvised lyrics a few times---once when a guy was being walked over the crowd with his arm stretched out to Morrissey and trying to reach the stage---Morrissey sang, "amigo, look at the brave amigo"---can't remember the exact song, sorry. Mozz touched many a hand during the performance and walked the stage edge to edge many times.
Before the encore--Still Ill--he came back on stage wearing a blue sort of chambray shirt---I'm thinking he bought 50 from Gap for the tour---at the end, in signature style---he stripped it and tossed it into the crowd and sort of danced off stage--turning a few times--then he was gone. The band threw their picks, sticks and something else---I almost got a stick...two guys actually made it onto stage--one embracing Mozz fully and kissing him---Mozz rolled with it and the guy was very gently taken off stage--they actually slowly lowered the guy back into the crowd.
So--this, I hope..... does a fair attempt at reviewing a really superb show--please forgive mistakes in spelling, order and/or grammar.
A good friend of mine handled the catering for the band --the guys had vegetable Mediterranean cous cous---Mozz apparently ate alone and needed the space prior to the show to himself for 15 minutes. Diva-tude present but not overwhelming.
Happy Holidays / Peace
I have a couple iPhone videos I might post later
Great Review! What the Pixies like?
jackson
November 21, 2011, 06:36 PM
Thanks to the ones that actually did a review of the shows. The real ones. Thank you.
Anonymous
November 21, 2011, 07:24 PM
Shelagh Delaney (25 November 1939 – 20 November 2011)
"A temperament capable of receiving, through an imaginative medium, and under imaginative conditions, new and beautiful impressions, is the only temperament that can appreciate a work of art." (Oscar Wilde)
Thank you Shelagh.
Goodbye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNuG6...eature=related
we'll let you know
Anonymous
November 21, 2011, 10:08 PM
My best gal and I took in the Santa Fe gig Saturday. While I'm not the best judge of the caliber of the show (I was running a fever by the time Moz took the stage), the one thing that struck me is how low key the gig was compared to his Albuquerque show in 2009. That's pretty much par of the course; the Santa Fe crowds tend to be more reserved, which was actually kind of nice, what with being sick and all.
The set list has been posted already so no need to go there, but I do want to say how freakin' awesome it was to hear Ouija Board live. One of my all-time fave Mozza tracks that sounded just superb on stage.
Compared to the previous gigs, it looks like they might have switched out Carol for First Of The Gang (shorthand, so don't get all uppity about "that's not the name of the songs, idiot.") Good choice. Refusal was a great album and so if he wants to play the whole album from start to finish I'll go to that gig.
I was a little disappointed with The Smiths songs he chose. Then again, he's not The Smiths, so it's good of him to play any of them at all. Here's to hoping he'll play I Started Something I Couldn't Finish live again in my lifetime.
The band looked and sounded great. Matching t-shirts, although I couldn't tell who the girl on the print was. Anyone?
I'm really bummed that it was Saturday that I got sick. Sure, it made it harder to enjoy the show, but what truly lags is I'd been emailing with Boz for the better part of the week and we'd set up to meet before the show to chat for a spell (I interviewed Boz a few years ago). I was hoping to pick his brain about the new Adam Ant album he's been working on. Anyway, I decided not to meet Boz for fear of getting him sick. He's got the better part of a tour to finish yet.
Still Ill saw the crowd at its most vigorous. Fans were attempting to jump from the barrier the four feet to the stage and were landing on their chests and stomachs hard on the edge of the stage. Only one guy made it on the stage by coming in from the side of the stage, in front of Boz, and across to Mozza.
Well, I'm going to go be ill now. Hey. Still Ill. How about that.
DAVIE
November 21, 2011, 10:20 PM
So nobody cares Smiths favourite Still Ill is back on the set list? Shame on you fans! Shame on you!
Anon aka Marred Surface
November 21, 2011, 11:19 PM
Great Review! What the Pixies like?
Greetings --I'm glad you liked the "WOW!" review and in regard to The Pixies show in Santa Fe the 16th. Not sure if this is the place --but quickly; The Pixies chose a number (6) of rather random venues "places they had never played before"---even though I saw Frank Black and Joey here 15 years ago. Anyway--places like Bakersfield, CA and Santa Cruz. It was their "Doolittle" Concert---whereby they throw down a few B sides--but other than that they stick to performing the Doolittle album in its exact order. They had an enormous pixel-based screen behind the stage and had spent ALOT of time creating vignette- like --snippety montages that went with the songs--sometimes even syncing up to chord changes and words. It was actually pretty campy and commercial. Going as far as using huge images of themselves looking around oddly and waving goodbye as the actual band took bows on stage --Talking Heads did it 25 years ago---this felt unoriginal. Kim Deal did 98% of the talking--sounding perky and perhaps a bit confused. Frank seemed grouchy and kept making a motion with his hand that suggested putting an oxygen mask to his face--even uttering something like "mabe its time for the oxygen mask..."The room was pretty packed -- nice sound overall--two large hanging speaker stacks, good light sequences and mucho "smoke"---serious bass tones. The music was very tight--some flubs on the singing/ harmonies. Lovering pulled off La-La Love You---which was a nice rendition--a bizarre sarcasm pervaded the singing---with the screen behind them overrun with hearts and arrows in crimson chasing each other (no bueno!). I have followed the band since they started and if I was to define this show / tour---it sort of smacked of lets get together and make some money before we no longer can. Anyway--sorry if this is off-topic.
Happy Holidays / PEACE!
Sal Arce Morrissey
November 22, 2011, 05:27 AM
Everything was great and stunning. Except for the bassist and drummer, I saw them both at Whole Foods and asked for there picture with me and declined. Thank god for Morrissey and Tebow...I should have never had asked.
DAVIE
November 22, 2011, 05:51 PM
Everything was great and stunning. Except for the bassist and drummer, I saw them both at Whole Foods and asked for there picture with me and declined. Thank god for Morrissey and Tebow...I should have never had asked.
really? they declined? what nasty arrogant nobodys they are! they're just another Morrissey drummer and bassist, they should be glad for some attention!
Anonymous
November 22, 2011, 10:10 PM
Only The Lonely was not played tonight.
On the other hand,
Would someone please tell me why the **** someone keeps whining about no Alma Matters?
Sal Arce Morrissey
November 24, 2011, 11:09 PM
really? they declined? what nasty arrogant nobodys they are! they're just another Morrissey drummer and bassist, they should be glad for some attention!
Yeah can you believe it, there refuSAL put me in a spot of bother. I wanted to spit in there eye..
JMozza34
January 17, 2012, 09:47 AM
You do realize Action Man is the title of a Morrissey/Whyte composition that has never seen the light of day, don't you?
It is noted as a Morrissey/Whyte composition, but it may be a cover of Action Man by Angelic Upstarts.
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