How long will it take for him to cancel Cheltenham

[Brel]

He is to play Cheltenham Racecourse, the home of UK National Hunt Horseracing. This will be cancelled the secend the penny drops!

[kyleleonard]

He should cancel them all and do Manchester instead ;)

[Brel]

He should cancel them all and do Manchester instead ;)

Not at all. There are parts of the UK that have been blessed with my presence only due to Morrissey being in town. Manchester can have me anythime :D:D

[kyleleonard]

lolll. So are you still buying tickets for Cheltenham, then?

[Brel]

No, but I'll set up a bookies on the course and offer 100/1 on him doing this one!!!

[kyleleonard]

lol!

I thought he would have learnt since the last tour that these tiny venues don't help anyone. He really should play the major cities and not do as many.. so everyone that wants to go can get to them without having to travel to places like Bradford..

[stu444]

I'll be buying a ticket for cheltenham so I hope he doesn't cancel, but I remember when he played at Cheltenham town hall he made comments about the countryside alliance.


From passions just like mine:

He commented about the Countryside Alliance/Farmers ruining the English Shires. He also mentioned that he was playing next in Oxford, "the centre of Animal Terrorism" or words to that effect

[Bluebirds]

lol!

I thought he would have learnt since the last tour that these tiny venues don't help anyone. He really should play the major cities and not do as many.. so everyone that wants to go can get to them without having to travel to places like Bradford..

The tiny venues are part of the Morrissey live attraction. He feeds off the crowd and the crowd feed off him.

Much better to see him in a tiny venue in the middle of nowhere than say Liverpool Echo Arena for example.

[lottie]

arghhhhhhhhhhhh, dont even joke about that, shame its in a raccourse, but i love cheltenham and i REALLY want to see him there.

[Brel]

The tiny venues are part of the Morrissey live attraction. He feeds off the crowd and the crowd feed off him.

Much better to see him in a tiny venue in the middle of nowhere than say Liverpool Echo Arena for example.

The Centaur is not a tiny venue by any stretch of the imagination. It is quite a large venue, holding 4,000 people for a standing gig. All academic, as he will cancel.

[Bluebirds]

The Centaur is not a tiny venue by any stretch of the imagination. It is quite a large venue, holding 4,000 people for a standing gig. All academic, as he will cancel.

Sorry I was thinking about Dunoon

[Brel]

No, I'm sorry. I'm stood in the kitchen and there is a glare on my laptop screen. I assumed you were talking about Cheltenham, given the thread and all? :)

[Fulham Road Lights]

TTY says he's looking for an alternative venue!

[junebug]

this is a nightmare! to get the great news that your favourite artist is playing your hometown, for your thrill to be thwarted within hours. the cheltenham town hall is vacant that evening, so the sensible and least disruptive course of action would be to book there surely? people have already made plans for that cheltenham date, hoping that this tour wont be so dislocated as was the last one. cheltenham is an ideal place with a massive morrissey fanbase, im sure many fans will be upset to learn that they have been given a glimmer of hope then disregarded, when fair enough, the racecourse is unsuitable, but the town hall is vacant. why go elsewhere!?!?!

[Brel]

this is a nightmare! to get the great news that your favourite artist is playing your hometown, for your thrill to be thwarted within hours. the cheltenham town hall is vacant that evening, so the sensible and least disruptive course of action would be to book there surely? people have already made plans for that cheltenham date, hoping that this tour wont be so dislocated as was the last one. cheltenham is an ideal place with a massive morrissey fanbase, im sure many fans will be upset to learn that they have been given a glimmer of hope then disregarded, when fair enough, the racecourse is unsuitable, but the town hall is vacant. why go elsewhere!?!?!

The Cheltenham Town Hall is doubtful as an alternative, in my opinion. Although logistically practical, he has to accommodate the loss of 4,000 ticket sales, which will have been factored into the tour. The Jockey Club (owners of the Centaur) are likely to be contractually due money from Morrissey. Don't be surprised to see the replacement being a big one!

Also, apart from the replacement there are to be no more UK gigs. Sounds like Morrissey isn't happy with the UK tour management to me? Be thankful that the tour is still on!

[lottie]

this is a nightmare! to get the great news that your favourite artist is playing your hometown, for your thrill to be thwarted within hours. the cheltenham town hall is vacant that evening, so the sensible and least disruptive course of action would be to book there surely? people have already made plans for that cheltenham date, hoping that this tour wont be so dislocated as was the last one. cheltenham is an ideal place with a massive morrissey fanbase, im sure many fans will be upset to learn that they have been given a glimmer of hope then disregarded, when fair enough, the racecourse is unsuitable, but the town hall is vacant. why go elsewhere!?!?!

ring the town hall and tell them to get onto Moz's people pronto.

[stevenf1]

The tiny venues are part of the Morrissey live attraction. He feeds off the crowd and the crowd feed off him.

Much better to see him in a tiny venue in the middle of nowhere than say Liverpool Echo Arena for example.

larger venues attracts the idiots while bradford will be blessed with is presences

[stu444]

My 5th cancellation, well at least this time it was before I bought a ticket / got to the venue

[mozsupportsrovers]

Could you really see moz playing this date? At least he's looking for an alternative venue.

Also only Uk dates of the year? IMO its a lie, just a way to ensure that all the tickets are snapped up. Cant see him touring without at least one London date

[Emotional Guide Dog]

He's cancelled Cheltenham because it's at the racecourse.

Animals eh? You can't eat them, you can't race them, what can you do with them?!

[sweet and tender hooligan]

True to you :
"Morrissey will play Plymouth Pavilions on Thursday 30 June in place of the previously announced concert at Cheltenham."

[CrystalGeezer]

Says who?

[Emotional Guide Dog]

Says who to what?

[Bluebirds]

True to you :
"Morrissey will play Plymouth Pavilions on Thursday 30 June in place of the previously announced concert at Cheltenham."

Plymouth??? That's hardly a National Hunt fence from Cheltenham is it?

[CrystalGeezer]

Says who that he cancelled the venue because there's a racecourse in town.

Our mall is next to a racetrack. :(

[Karl Pilkington]

It is a perfectly natural instinct for children to enjoy piggy-back races, therefore one can only assume horses actually enjoy having a little race around a field with a little man on their back.

[CrystalGeezer]

It is a perfectly natural instinct for children to enjoy piggy-back races, therefore one can only assume horses actually enjoy having a little race around a field with a little man on their back.

Actually they do. THey LOVE opening up and taking off. If it's the treatment they get if they don't win then I understand. Some trainers just send them straight to slaughter I've read. That needs to stop, but not horse racing. I kinda love watching it. :o

[CrystalGeezer]

Karl, it just occurred to me that you might have been cynical. :straightface:

[Brel]

Plymouth??? That's hardly a National Hunt fence from Cheltenham is it?

Several lengths!!

2,500 capacity, so he's took a punch in the pocket, assuming that he keeps the tickets at £32.50 face?

On the ticket price issue, they are the same as the Swords tour (if my memory serves me right?) Taking into account VAT hike of 2.5%, much higher transportation costs and general inflation, his margins wil have been cut? I'd like to be a fly on the wall at the (imaginary) meeting with the accounts..."These shirts you throw Mr Morrissey...!" ;)

[troubleluvsme]

He's cancelled Cheltenham because it's at the racecourse.

Animals eh? You can't eat them, you can't race them, what can you do with them?!


hmmm.....I wonder why he didn't just wait and cancel the day of?
Or better yet, go and stage and then stomp off?

[Emotional Guide Dog]

He's playing Plymouth instead. Oh yeah, great call Moz cos Plymouth is right next door to Cheltenham isn't it?!

[Raphael Lambach]

Someone had made a thread previously about the possible cancellation of this concert.

[troubleluvsme]

Someone had made a thread previously about the possible cancellation of this concert.

Yes, but they didn't mention that he was acting like a girl.

[Raphael Lambach]

Yes, but they didn't mention that he was acting like a girl.

You're right..hahahahahahah

[Hellie]

He's such a fecking diva!

[MilkMeansMurder]

It is a perfectly natural instinct for children to enjoy piggy-back races, therefore one can only assume horses actually enjoy having a little race around a field with a little man on their back.

Erm... great analogy! :confused: I'm sure horses love running around a field, but they don't enjoy racing, if they did there would be no need for little men to sit on their backs forcing them to run faster, to the point of pain, injury, or death: www.horsedeathwatch.com (search Cheltenham)


There's no way Morrissey will play this venue.

[billybu69]

He is to play Cheltenham Racecourse, the home of UK National Hunt Horseracing. This will be cancelled the secend the penny drops!

Good call Brel well spotted.

[GSter]

Cancelling 'Nam for Plymouth.....
He's such a fecking diva!......no, the guy is a cunt !!!
Was so looking forward to it..........back to being a Take That fan !

[Emotional Guide Dog]

Erm... great analogy! :confused: I'm sure horses love running around a field, but they don't enjoy racing, if they did there would be no need for little men to sit on their backs forcing them to run faster, to the point of pain, injury, or death: www.horsedeathwatch.com (search Cheltenham)


There's no way Morrissey will play this venue.

How come you're only sure that horses love running around a field but you know for a fact that they don't enjoy racing?

Because of all the horses I've ever seen in fields, evidence would suggest that what they love to do there is eat grass.
I've also seen what a horse that doesn't want to race looks like. Once the feet are planted, that horse aint going anywhere.

I suppose you could ban horse racing, if you want to see an entire breed of animal wiped out that is. Hmmm, very animal loving.

Anyway, all that is irrelevant. A gig was booked at Cheltenham, people in that area of the country were excited, he's cancelled it because he's a big hufty girl & replaced it with a gig in Plymouth - 137 miles away. It's a poor substitute & a poor way to treat his fans. The worst thing is that people are coming to expect it & for all the respect he gives his fans, no-one turning up for any of his gigs ever again is no less than he deserves.

[Brel]

To clarify:-

This venue is housed within the gates of Prestbury Park, otherwise known as Cheltenham Racecourse. As well as being the home of UK National Hunt horseracing, the venue holds the Steeplechase Hall of Fame. Even is all this has passed by the attentions of Morrissey, do people think that he wouldn't have noticed that he was entering....?

http://www.classic-auctions.com/UserFiles/image/Venues/Cheltenham.jpg

[Bluebirds]

To clarify:-

This venue is housed within the gates of Prestbury Park, otherwise known as Cheltenham Racecourse. As well as being the home of UK National Hunt horseracing, the venue holds the Steeplechase Hall of Fame. Even is all this has passed by the attentions of Morrissey, do people think that he wouldn't have noticed that he was entering....?

http://www.classic-auctions.com/UserFiles/image/Venues/Cheltenham.jpg


Better for him to cancel now than having a hissy fit when he got there!

Also this fallacy that horseracing is a cruel sport is beyond me. Yes some of the horses are put down due to their injuries but this is a tiny minority. Little men riding horses may appear cruel to you for entertainment but there's a whole lot more to National Jump racing than that.

On the animal welffare angle why not mention the stablelads and lasses who care for the racehorses as if they were their own pets and form special bonds with them?
Racehorses are treated better and cared for more diligently than most other domesticated animals, including pets.

[MilkMeansMurder]

How come you're only sure that horses love running around a field but you know for a fact that they don't enjoy racing?

Ok I'll rephrase that - I think some horses quite like running.

But I KNOW they don't like being forced to run faster than they're physically capable of to the point of injury or death (because I, unlike some others, have common sense and emotional intelligence). :)

Are the horses you're talking about that just want to eat grass all day trapped in the fields by people? If so that would explain why they don't run anywhere...


I suppose you could ban horse racing, if you want to see an entire breed of animal wiped out that is. Hmmm, very animal loving.

Are you serious?! You might not realise this but horses are perfectly capable of breeding naturally (are you 5?)

It's a shame for the people who are disappointed about the cancelled gig. But put it into perspective - they'll get over it, they'll live. Also remember that it's not Morrissey's fault - he didn't book the gigs, and wouldn't have booked a racecourse. His tour manager is to blame. I agree that Plymouth is quite a way from Cheltenham, but he has played Cheltenham within the last few years, and there's plenty of transport to and from Plymouth. You've had enough notice - the gigs aren't until the end of June!!

[GlasgowChivas]

Better for him to cancel now than having a hissy fit when he got there!

THIS. I'd rather he cancelled a gig near me and I had to travel a bit further to see him play a great gig than turn up at the first one, watch him huff a bit about the venue then give a bored performance and then leave early.

[Emotional Guide Dog]

Are you serious?! You might not realise this but horses are perfectly capable of breeding naturally (are you 5?)



I'm well aware that horses are capable of breeding by themselves. Are you aware that 'horse' is a species & the thoroughbred racehorse is a breed from that species? Hence 'seeing an entire breed of animal wiped out.'

There are many valid reasons to oppose horse racing - that they don't want to do it isn't one of them.

[MilkMeansMurder]

Are you aware that 'horse' is a species & the thoroughbred racehorse is a breed from that species? Hence 'seeing an entire breed of animal wiped out.'

They wouldn't be 'wiped out', they just wouldn't be artificially bred by humans anymore - not quite the same thing. You obviously have no idea so this should help: http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/CAMPAIGNS/horse/ALL/1350/

[Emotional Guide Dog]

I have no idea? That's funny.

The article you have linked to is four years old, this is the link you want:

http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/

You are advocating the death of virtually an entire breed by the way, whether you care to accept it or not.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

some horses like to be ridden* :rolleyes: maybe not raced :o
also, haha, you got merged EGD :p


*=I read a lot of Cormac McCarthy

[herewiththecause]

Just wanted to ask a question,
is it inappropriate to ride horses if you aren't racing them?
i mean, from an animal rights activist's position.
it seems like at least a handful of people think it's wrong to even have a pet.
not sure if this question is best posed in this thread, but the topic has at least been broached.
i'm curious what people think....