View Full Version : Smiths Article in Record Collector Jan 2011
ALLIE WALLS
December 16, 2010, 05:50 PM
Picked up the xmas issue of Record Collector and theres an ad that says next months issue has an article on Smiths collectables,says its out 23 december
Alan
ALLIE WALLS
December 17, 2010, 09:08 PM
Heres a scan of the ad
murder and desire
December 17, 2010, 09:20 PM
Heres a scan of the ad
Thank you
saw76
December 23, 2010, 06:57 PM
Just a quick heads up to let everyone know that The Smiths are on the front cover of this months Record Colecctor magazine, an outtake from the Salford Lads Club shoot, and there is a fairly lengthy article about merchandise that is associated with their tours. Very interesting and an area not normally discussed. A fair few pics of tour posters, backstage passes and flyers.
billybu69
December 23, 2010, 07:44 PM
This looks like it could be good.
http://www.recordcollectormag.com/issues/issue-detail/384
goinghome
December 23, 2010, 09:04 PM
This looks like it could be good.
http://www.recordcollectormag.com/issues/issue-detail/384
As a little aside, yesterday's entry for this day in music was, "1988, The Smiths played their farewell gig at Wolverhampton Civic Hall (without guitarist Johnny Marr). To gain entrance to the gig, fans had to wear a Smiths or Morrissey T-shirt." - http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/News/day-in-music-1222/
SweetFA
December 23, 2010, 10:10 PM
As a little aside, yesterday's entry for this day in music was, "1988, The Smiths played their farewell gig at Wolverhampton Civic Hall (without guitarist Johnny Marr). To gain entrance to the gig, fans had to wear a Smiths or Morrissey T-shirt." - http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/News/day-in-music-1222/
No they didn't, it was Moz's first solo gig, was no more a Smiths gig than ...Playboys or Interesting Drug were Smiths singles.
Gig was intended to get footage to use in the ...Playboys promo video iirc.
Raphael Lambach
December 23, 2010, 10:23 PM
No they didn't, it was Moz's first solo gig, was no more a Smiths gig than ...Playboys or Interesting Drug were Smiths singles.
Gig was intended to get footage to use in the ...Playboys promo video iirc.
What did you mean? I guess you are wrong...
SweetFA
December 23, 2010, 10:30 PM
What did you mean? I guess you are wrong...
I'm saying just because Gannon, Joyce, Rourke, and Morrissey were present didn't make it a Smiths gig, just like those four being on those two singles didn't make them Smiths singles.
It was a Moz solo gig, i defy anyone to find evidence from the time of it being referred to as anything other than a Moz gig.
Raphael Lambach
December 23, 2010, 11:45 PM
No they didn't, it was Moz's first solo gig, was no more a Smiths gig than ...Playboys or Interesting Drug were Smiths singles.
Gig was intended to get footage to use in the ...Playboys promo video iirc.
I'm saying just because Gannon, Joyce, Rourke, and Morrissey were present didn't make it a Smiths gig, just like those four being on those two singles didn't make them Smiths singles.
It was a Moz solo gig, i defy anyone to find evidence from the time of it being referred to as anything other than a Moz gig.
Your second post contradicted your first post. You said that ID and TLOTFIP were Smiths singles and in the next one you said that the fellows didn't make Smiths gig. I hope I'm not being rude to you.
murder and desire
December 23, 2010, 11:52 PM
Your second post contradicted your first post. You said that ID and TLOTFIP were Smiths singles and in the next one you said that the fellows didn't make Smiths gig. I hope I'm not being rude to you.
He didn't contradict himself and what he is saying is true.
The gig was a Morrissey gig and NOT a Smiths gig. The gig was free to anyone wearing Smiths/Morrissey tshirts- "Tshirt mate, OK mate".
Erm, I am guessing SweetFA is male, I could of course be wrong, if so sorry.
Raphael Lambach
December 24, 2010, 12:05 AM
He didn't contradict himself and what he is saying is true.
The gig was a Morrissey gig and NOT a Smiths gig. The gig was free to anyone wearing Smiths/Morrissey tshirts- "Tshirt mate, OK mate".
Erm, I am guessing SweetFA is male, I could of course be wrong, if so sorry.
But "Interesting Drug" and "Playboys" weren't Smiths' singles as he/she said.
Hidden By Rags
December 24, 2010, 12:13 AM
No they didn't, it was Moz's first solo gig, was no more a Smiths gig than ...Playboys or Interesting Drug were Smiths singles.
Gig was intended to get footage to use in the ...Playboys promo video iirc.
Your second post contradicted your first post. You said that ID and TLOTFIP were Smiths singles and in the next one you said that the fellows didn't make Smiths gig. I hope I'm not being rude to you.
RL, to clarify, "no more...than" is used in a way that puts the emphasis on comparison (as opposed to contrast), and so his point is well made. Although I can understand the confusion...
So this issue of Record Collector should be available in the States in a good month at least. And it will be just 1 or 2 copies and dog-eared from being flipped through and not bought. Guess I'd better keep a close watch for it.
murder and desire
December 24, 2010, 12:14 AM
RL, to clarify, "no more...than" is used in a way that puts the emphasis on comparison (as opposed to contrast), and so his point is well made. Although I can understand the confusion...
So this issue of Record Collector should be available in the States in a good month at least. And it will be just 1 or 2 copies and dog-eared from being flipped through and not bought. Guess I'd better keep a close watch for it.
you beat me to it- that was well explained by the way.
Misreading is easy to do, especially when English isn't your first Language.
PS I expect there will be a trader on ebay, selling the mag.
Raphael Lambach
December 24, 2010, 12:31 AM
you beat me to it- that was well explained by the way.
Misreading is easy to do, especially when English isn't your first Language.
PS I expect there will be a trader on ebay, selling the mag.
Sorry I've cut "no more" off. The blame of this trouble is on me.
murder and desire
December 24, 2010, 12:33 AM
Sorry I've cut "no more" off. The blame of this trouble is on me.
No trouble, no blame.
Happy xmas
Raphael Lambach
December 24, 2010, 12:38 AM
No trouble, no blame.
Happy xmas
Happy xmas to you too.... and all soloers.
Hidden By Rags
December 24, 2010, 12:56 AM
Sorry I've cut "no more" off. The blame of this trouble is on me.
No worries, didn't think you'd get this much attention, did you? :)
Have a Merry Christmas.
Hidden By Rags
December 24, 2010, 01:00 AM
you beat me to it- that was well explained by the way.
Misreading is easy to do, especially when English isn't your first Language.
PS I expect there will be a trader on ebay, selling the mag.
I had to really think it through before hitting send. I didn't want SweetFA's thought to be lost on RL or anyone else.
Thanks for the tip. But not for one penny more than face value! Maybe.
mikael
December 24, 2010, 01:37 AM
How much is an RC in Britain, £5? how tight are you lot?
Hidden By Rags
December 24, 2010, 05:45 AM
Import Prices. And for many other import items we spend for our hobbies, it adds up (roughly double your price for RC). In my case, I'd have to pilfer my kids' money jars regularly to support my habit. So yeah, in the grander scheme of things...
SweetFA
December 24, 2010, 08:29 AM
So glad we've cleared that up as i really wasn't expecting The Spanish Inquisition.....
http://wiki.urbandead.com/images/7/77/Spanish_inquisition.jpg
Now, i really hope everyone is familiar with Monty Python ;)
Have a very merry Xmas all.
Uncleskinny
December 29, 2010, 12:29 PM
I just bought this. It was £4.50. If no one objects, I can scan the article and bung it up here. By the way, there's also an excellent article on Half Man Half Biscuit.
P.
ALLIE WALLS
December 29, 2010, 04:10 PM
Thanks Skinny i ve been waiting for this.
Alan
Uncleskinny
December 29, 2010, 04:48 PM
Here we go then. It's a new scanner, and I'm still getting to grips with the controls - I probably should have found the setting to scan at a higher DPI and resize down, but I couldn't find it. Future ones I'll really make an effort to get the right settings. Anyway, here it all is. If anyone not in the UK would like a copy, let me know, and I'll get one and mail it on.
P.
http://i51.tinypic.com/122iudz.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2u8xnwk.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/xf2jo0.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/1z8009.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/20iw8pu.jpg
Uncleskinny
December 29, 2010, 04:50 PM
And the next 5 pages...
http://i53.tinypic.com/11gruq9.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/fy0gzp.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/15qyd7s.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/5klojk.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/2ibm81e.jpg
P.
The Seeker of Good Songs
December 29, 2010, 05:41 PM
Thank you Uncle!!!
Dave2006
December 30, 2010, 01:34 PM
Thanks for posting the scans Peter (I tried to do it, but the scanner went to A3 and I couldn't be bothered to crop and post them :()
I was interested to see them list the BBC Transcription disc (RC normally have a policy of not listing them as strictly speaking they belong to the BBC and shouldn't be bought and sold) but still they don't put a value on it.
Did you also see the brief Moz mention a few pages earlier? In an article on 90's vinyl, World of Morrissey was listed.
Dave
Born In 1975
December 30, 2010, 08:50 PM
Looks like RC forgot to mention the Rough Trade compilation that was released in Canada and Holland with the live Oxford version of "Miserable Lie".
Uncleskinny
December 31, 2010, 04:49 PM
Thanks for posting the scans Peter (I tried to do it, but the scanner went to A3 and I couldn't be bothered to crop and post them :()
I was interested to see them list the BBC Transcription disc (RC normally have a policy of not listing them as strictly speaking they belong to the BBC and shouldn't be bought and sold) but still they don't put a value on it.
Did you also see the brief Moz mention a few pages earlier? In an article on 90's vinyl, World of Morrissey was listed.
Dave
Bugger, missed that. £50? I must go and rummage in me loft...
P.
IDon'tOweYouAnything23
January 15, 2011, 02:07 AM
(Not sure if it's already been posted?)
Nice read. They also feature on the cover.
Here's a link. Not the complete article though. The magazine costs £4 sterling and my scanner's no good, sorry!
http://www.recordcollectormag.com/articles/article-detail/706
blameless
January 15, 2011, 12:21 PM
Thanks Uncle, interesting read.
Their not right about the Rank mispressing..I've got one so I'd imagine there's others out there too.
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