a REAL Smiths fan for David Cameron

[roky]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a308/jasonwillis/l01_26265027.jpg

[kissmyshadestoo]

That would be a great backdrop for a Smiths reunion tour!

[CrystalGeezer]

That would be a great backdrop for a Smiths reunion tour!

Thinking ahead! :D

[Emotional Guide Dog]

How do you know they're a real Smiths fan?

How do you know David Cameron isn't a real Smiths fan? Because he's posh? The star of the photograph might be posh.

And aren't posh people allowed to like The Smiths? How about black people?

[Walter Ego]

THE student protest picture is now on www.true-to-you.net so both Marr and Morrissey are impressed.
If the person in the pic wants to send me a private message I have some news for them.

[Uncleskinny]

I originally thought it was a Boston Globe Photo, but the attribution is to Oli Scarff of Getty Images - so if all else fails, it might be worth having a word with him.

P.

[murder and desire]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a308/jasonwillis/l01_26265027.jpg

Wow, sepia and Print.
More fans like this and less xfactor, Preston and David calamity please, please, please.

[Barking]

If the person in the pic wants to send me a private message I have some news for them.

:lbf:
Really. How exciting. What have they won?
-a week end with James Cameron?
-all their student expenses (except socks) paid for by Morrissey and Marr?
-an interview with a silly journalist?
-their weight in beans on toast?

:guffaw:

This is getting a tad silly now; what is it? A protest or a raffle? :crazy:

[Walter Ego]

:lbf:
Really. How exciting. What have they won?
-a week end with James Cameron?
-all their student expenses (except socks) paid for by Morrissey and Marr?
-an interview with a silly journalist?
-their weight in beans on toast?

:guffaw:

This is getting a tad silly now; what is it? A protest or a raffle? :crazy:

Are you running low on medication?

[Emotional Guide Dog]

I've done some snooping:

The protestor's name is Lauren Fulwood Willoughby & she's a third year philosophy student at Oxford. She originally attended Marlborough College (the same school as Kate Middleton - fiance of Prince William) & is a distant decendant of Clementina Drummond-Willoughby, 24th Baroness Willoughby de Eresby.

Interesting huh?

[Barking]

Are you running low on medication?

What about you? What are you on, Walter? Power trip? Troll trip? Aren't they the same? :p Having a problem with people not being impressed? :eek:

Oh I know. they've won a Hatful of Hollow t.shirt!!! :clap:

:lbf:

[murder and desire]

I've done some snooping:

The protestor's name is Lauren Fulwood Willoughby & she's a third year philosophy student at Oxford. She originally attended Marlborough College (the same school as Kate Middleton - fiance of Prince William) & is a distant decendant of Clementina Drummond-Willoughby, 24th Baroness Willoughby de Eresby.

Interesting huh?

That has ruined it for me, only messing.
Just because she is wealthy it doesn't mean her heart isn't in the correct place.
The reason I sometimes go off "on one" about people like xfactor contestants,Preston and David Calamity is becasue the xfactor people tend to be middle class kids with no real idea, whom are shallow and controlled by fashion who only use Morrissey as a starting point to further there careers as is Preston, in fact more so with him.
"Dave", should stopped is taking the country down the wrong road

[Worm]

I've done some snooping:

The protestor's name is Lauren Fulwood Willoughby & she's a third year philosophy student at Oxford. She originally attended Marlborough College (the same school as Kate Middleton - fiance of Prince William) & is a distant decendant of Clementina Drummond-Willoughby, 24th Baroness Willoughby de Eresby.

Interesting huh?

David Cameron is barred outside the gates of Smithdom for what he believes and what he is actively trying to accomplish, not merely because he's Conservative.

[Walter Ego]

What about you? What are you on, Walter? Power trip? Troll trip? Aren't they the same? :p Having a problem with people not being impressed? :eek:

Oh I know. they've won a Hatful of Hollow t.shirt!!! :clap:

:lbf:

I like you. You use your low self esteem to create humour.
Which is a good thing.

[RorschachAndProzac]

How do you know they're a real Smiths fan?

How do you know David Cameron isn't a real Smiths fan? Because he's posh? The star of the photograph might be posh.

And aren't posh people allowed to like The Smiths? How about black people?

It's a great photo but she's probably as 'real' a Smiths fan as any student with access to eBay. It doesn't matter if they've only heard one song...

OMGZ Smiths shirtz r kewl!!!11!

[Barking]

I like you. You use your low self esteem to create humour.
Which is a good thing.

Oh I like you back Walter. But then, it's only my low self-esteem talking.

So anyway, what news have you got for them? Tell us. Brighten our low-life with your little fairy tale. Go on. We're listening.

Is it an interview with the Sun? :)

[murder and desire]

It's a great photo but she's probably as 'real' a Smiths fan as any student with access to eBay. It doesn't matter if they've only heard one song...

OMGZ Smiths shirtz r kewl!!!11!

I agree. In this case it's the power of the image.

[Walter Ego]

Oh I like you back Walter. But then, it's only my low self-esteem talking.

So anyway, what news have you got for them? Tell us. Brighten our low-life with your little fairy tale. Go on. We're listening.

Is it an interview with the Sun? :)

Yes it is. But as they have yet to identify themselves would you consider doing it instead?
A topless picture would have to be part of the deal but you never know, it might help with your confidence issues.

[Emotional Guide Dog]

David Cameron is barred outside the gates of Smithdom for what he believes and what he is actively trying to accomplish, not merely because he's Conservative.

There's a possibility that David Cameron may have been involved in a student protest against tuition fees when he was at University were it not for the small matter of tuition fees not being introduced until Labour brought them in in 1998, along with abolishing the grant & replacing it with a 100% repayable loan.

In 2004, Labour increased tuition fees by the same percentage that the Tories are about to.

Before 1998, education authorities were legally obliged to provide full time Universtiy students with a non repayable maintenance grant. This was part of the 1962 Education Act brought in by a Conservative Government.

Can we not at least agree that Cameron is just PART of the problem & not the START of it?

[CharlieFairhead]

Reminds me of....
http://www.geeks.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Lol.jpg

[murder and desire]

Reminds me of....
http://www.geeks.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Lol.jpg

Off topic but related to Lol. This is England '90 has been given the green light

[murder and desire]

Off topic but related to Lol. This is England '90 has been given the green light

This Is England '90 has been given the green light- exciting.

As for "Dave". its not just the student loans issue, it's this issue mixed with everything else he has set out.
Plus, of course the lim dems went against what they first set out.
On PMs questions-
David Calamity to Ed Miliband "You will always be a student politician "
Ed to Calmaitiy " I WAS, a student politian and I am proud of it. At least I didn't go around throwing bead rolls and recking restaurants".

[Emotional Guide Dog]

This Is England '90 has been given the green light- exciting.

As for "Dave". its not just the student loans issue, it's this issue mixed with everything else he has set out.
Plus, of course the lim dems went against what they first set out.
On PMs questions-
David Calamity to Ed Miliband "You will always be a student politician "
Ed to Calmaitiy " I WAS, a student politian and I am proud of it. At least I didn't go around throwing bead rolls and recking restaurants".

My MP is LibDem & voted against.

David Davis, the Tory minister also voted against. He should've been bloody leader. I took Cameron saying to Uncle Ed 'you'll always be a student politician' to mean 'because you'll never graduate to the big time (as in PM)'

Which is probably right. Only Alan Johnson can get Labour elected next time around.

[Barking]

The protestor's name is Lauren Fulwood Willoughby & she's a distant decendant of Clementina Drummond-Willoughby, 24th Baroness Willoughby de Eresby.

Interesting huh?

Do you think the Lady doth protest too much then?:)




Yes it is. But as they have yet to identify themselves would you consider doing it instead?
A topless picture would have to be part of the deal but you never know, it might help with your confidence issues.

Walter, I'd be delighted. After flashing its wit, the next best thing for a bitch is flashing its tits. So PM me.
But if yours are as big as your ego, please, by all means, contact them first. You win.

...It's a shame she's not selected for Strictly Come Dancing. I love dancing. Can you cha-cha, Walter?:)

[CharlieFairhead]

Off topic but related to Lol. This is England '90 has been given the green light

Good news, much obliged
Now back to anarchy...after a cup of tea perhaps.

[murder and desire]

My MP is LibDem & voted against.

David Davis, the Tory minister also voted against. He should've been bloody leader. I took Cameron saying to Uncle Ed 'you'll always be a student politician' to mean 'because you'll never graduate to the big time (as in PM)'

Which is probably right. Only Alan Johnson can get Labour elected next time around.

No, because then he said and you will always be one.
Eds relpy knocked "call me Dave" for six. Quite funny.
The labour back bencher who mentioned the Smiths thing was just silly-
I hate it when people call them a student band as they are not, students may like them but none of them went to uni- they are just bright working class boys- well johnny and Moz at least

[Girl-with-the-Thorn]

:lbf:
Really. How exciting. What have they won?
-a week end with James Cameron?
-all their student expenses (except socks) paid for by Morrissey and Marr?
-an interview with a silly journalist?
-their weight in beans on toast?

:guffaw:

This is getting a tad silly now; what is it? A protest or a raffle? :crazy:

This please. Kthx.

[CrystalGeezer]

I've done some snooping:

The protestor's name is Lauren Fulwood Willoughby & she's a third year philosophy student at Oxford. She originally attended Marlborough College (the same school as Kate Middleton - fiance of Prince William) & is a distant decendant of Clementina Drummond-Willoughby, 24th Baroness Willoughby de Eresby.

Interesting huh?

Awwww, my uncle just named his labrador retriever puppy Willow. :sweet:

[Barking]

This please. Kthx.

Duly noted Girly. But without the socks though? An awfully big part of a budget, socks...:tears:

[billybu69]

Off topic but related to Lol. This is England '90 has been given the green light

best news i've heard in ages.

[Quiffaa]

I've done some snooping:

The protestor's name is XX & she's a x year philosophy student at x. She originally attended Y College (the same school as Y - fiance of Y) & is a distant decendant of Z, 23th Baroness ZZZ.

Interesting huh?

Dear Emotional Guide Dog,
unless this info is already known by the police, I`d ask you to protect her data, please! And everyone who quoted this info, plz kthx

Cheers,

Quiffaa

[Kewpie]

Dear Emotional Guide Dog,
unless this info is already known by the police, I`d ask you to protect her data, please! And everyone who quoted this info, plz kthx

Cheers,

Quiffaa

The protesters know that Britain has the highest number of CCTV on the streets in Europe.

I believe that they are fully aware of their responsibilities and the consequences, otherwise they didn't take part in the demo.


Don't worry, the protester in the photo can afford to hire a powerful lawyer to represent her case.

[RorschachAndProzac]

The protesters know that Britain has the highest number of CCTV on the streets in Europe.

I believe that they are fully aware of their responsibilities and the consequences, otherwise they didn't take part in the demo.


Don't worry, the protester in the photo can afford to hire a powerful lawyer to represent her case.

Why do so many people on this site have a huge problem with privileged or so-called 'posh' people?

[AntonyThePony]

It's a great photo but she's probably as 'real' a Smiths fan as any student with access to eBay. It doesn't matter if they've only heard one song...

OMGZ Smiths shirtz r kewl!!!11!

Amen to that, Sister.

[Kewpie]

Why do so many people on this site have a huge problem with privileged or so-called 'posh' people?

I don't have any problem with posh / privileged people.

I only pointed out the fact to Quiffaa, that's all.

[RorschachAndProzac]

Amen to that, Sister.

Safe bro'

[RorschachAndProzac]

I don't have any problem with posh / privileged people.

I only pointed out the fact to Quiffaa, that's all.

Of course. You're never rude. My mistake.

[Walter Ego]

Why do so many people on this site have a huge problem with privileged or so-called 'posh' people?

Why? Because they're privileged and so-called 'posh'.
Like what you are with your fancy southern ways.

Get over it sista.

Love, Walter.

[AntonyThePony]

Safe bro'

sick blad :cool:

[RorschachAndProzac]

sick blad :cool:

BRAP! I think I 'follow' you. On Twitter, of course. Not the street.

[RorschachAndProzac]

Why? Because they're privileged and so-called 'posh'.
Like what you are with your fancy southern ways.

Get over it sista.

Love, Walter.

Yeah alright Kevin.

Me and my working-class Southern ways actually. I think it's pathetic.

[AntonyThePony]

BRAP! I think I 'follow' you. On Twitter, of course. Not the street.

ha, what a lovely coincidence. whats your twitter name?

[cornelius blaze]

Dear Emotional Guide Dog,
unless this info is already known by the police, I`d ask you to protect her data, please! And everyone who quoted this info, plz kthx


TOOooooooo late i've called Crimestoppers.


Why? Because they're privileged and so-called 'posh'..
especially those ones on the Broadwater Farm estate.


Why do so many people on this site have a huge problem with privileged or so-called 'posh' people?

coz they are all awful dirty oiks who have bread and dripping for da tea!




Don't worry, the protester in the photo can afford to hire a powerful lawyer to represent her case.

You know that for real do you? If she can get a decent lawyer, why couldn't she get a decent tee shirt & not one sold for 3 for 20 quid.

I wonder if she got the shirt to wear after Marr's Tweet or the clip of Cameron speaking about the smiths in parliament.

[RorschachAndProzac]

I wonder if she got the shirt to wear after Marr's Tweet or the clip of Cameron speaking about the smiths in parliament.

HA. Exactly.

[RorschachAndProzac]

ha, what a lovely coincidence. whats your twitter name?

I'm @MrsNickCave ...ahem.

[Quiffaa]

The protesters know that Britain has the highest number of CCTV on the streets in Europe.

I believe that they are fully aware of their responsibilities and the consequences, otherwise they didn't take part in the demo.


Don't worry, the protester in the photo can afford to hire a powerful lawyer to represent her case.

How do you know what and what not she can afford? I wonder about the size of your vaults of dossiers on people

Why not let the police do the work of the police?

Maybe she could sue this site for libel if she has an alibi and/or a doppelganger?

[Kewpie]

How do you know what and what not she can afford? I wonder about the size of your vaults of dossiers on people

Why not let the police do the work of the police?

Maybe she could sue this site for libel if she has an alibi and/or a doppelganger?


She cannot sue any site which published her photos.
Can you prove that the photo has been damaged her reputations?

All the protesters were fully aware that the media was covering the demo.

[Quiffaa]

She cannot sue any site which published her photos.
Can you prove that the photo has been damaged her reputations?

All the protesters were fully aware that the media was covering the demo.

but this site gave her full name. I think claiming that she/ Ms. W. was a rioter if she can prove she wasn`t might put this site into danger

[Kewpie]

but this site gave her full name. I think claiming that she/ Ms. W. was a rioter if she can prove she wasn`t might put this site into danger

Excuse me, a user found info from another site and he posted it here which is not illegal.

[Quiffaa]

Excuse me, a user found info from another site and he posted it here which is not illegal.

I know for a fact that the guardian talkboard would delete such a posting for fear of being sued for libel, but you will do as you see fit.

[Emotional Guide Dog]

I've done some snooping:

The protestor's name is Lauren Fulwood Willoughby & she's a third year philosophy student at Oxford. She originally attended Marlborough College (the same school as Kate Middleton - fiance of Prince William) & is a distant decendant of Clementina Drummond-Willoughby, 24th Baroness Willoughby de Eresby.

Interesting huh?

I'm going to be laughing at this for about a fortnight.

How can I put it nicely?

...


...


...


BLUFF!

[Raphael Lambach]

Is that guy here?

[murder and desire]

Of course. You're never rude. My mistake.

Mrs Cave do you know Mrs Fry?
I also don't have an issue with privileged people some people say the poor and the rich are the most like minded in England it's the ones in the middle that have to be watched.
I also, don't have an issue with middle class people, to some I am middle class, I have a nice house in one of the more sought after cities in England- I would reject this as I do feel you are how you were bought up and the working classes did have their own culture (dead now) so it's not or wasn't about simply a money bracket.
There is no North/ South divide, it's the South East and the rest of the country that is divided.
The reason wealth and people coming from comfy streets is an issue with some Smiths and Morrissey fans is because The Smiths were very much a Working class band, none of them went to uni. Morrissey,as rich as he is, also continues to be working class in his mindset

[Uncleskinny]

I think we need to bring this back to the central issue (http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/107463137/Getty-Images-News).

P.

[murder and desire]

I think we need to bring this back to the central issue (http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/107463137/Getty-Images-News).

P.

It is all part of the central issue isn't it?
Class, Tories, The Smiths and a fine picture

[Quiffaa]

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/107464695.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892102A727B1636DE2E66693C6977ED5720E 7FD0524D46CA9C16D17131E6CA8D0201

wonders who knows him

[RorschachAndProzac]

Mrs Cave do you know Mrs Fry?
I also don't have an issue with privileged people some people say the poor and the rich are the most like minded in England it's the ones in the middle that have to be watched.
I also, don't have an issue with middle class people, to some I am middle class, I have a nice house in one of the more sought after cities in England- I would reject this as I do feel you are how you were bought up and the working classes did have their own culture (dead now) so it's not or wasn't about simply a money bracket.
There is no North/ South divide, it's the South East and the rest of the country that is divided.
The reason wealth and people coming from comfy streets is an issue with some Smiths and Morrissey fans is because The Smiths were very much a Working class band, none of them went to uni. Morrissey,as rich as he is, also continues to be working class in his mindset

I do 'follow' the delightful Mrs. Fry! We've never had a nice cup of tea and a sit down of an afternoon, mind.

I do agree with you, but the idea that some people have that you can't be 'working-class' and go to university in this day and age is ludicrous. I come from a tiny terraced house in London but I go to a (supposedly) good art school which as it is charges the maximum fees possible. Still, there's no correlation between where you come from and where you can go, I don't think. The fees are already enormous at my uni, but obviously the 'poorer' you are, the more financial assistance you (quite rightly) will get, plus nobody has to pay their student debts until they're in a position to do so. People are behaving as if bailiffs are going to be turning up on future graduate's doorsteps.

[Emotional Guide Dog]

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/107464695.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892102A727B1636DE2E66693C6977ED5720E 7FD0524D46CA9C16D17131E6CA8D0201

wonders who knows him

From the same source I found the girl:

His name is Jeffrey Tillworth Harrisson III & he's actually on an exchange program from Harvard.

[Quiffaa]

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/107464695.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892102A727B1636DE2E66693C6977ED5720E 7FD0524D46CA9C16D17131E6CA8D0201

wonders who knows him

wonders why he left his buttocks un-inked.

[Emotional Guide Dog]

He's got a skin condition, that's why.

[Quiffaa]

He's got a skin condition, that's why.

Or he wanted to give us undistractedbuttockview. They`re quite nice, aren`t they?

[CrystalGeezer]

Quiffaa, why you so sensitive to people figuring out people's real names? :p

[murder and desire]

I do 'follow' the delightful Mrs. Fry! We've never had a nice cup of tea and a sit down of an afternoon, mind.

I do agree with you, but the idea that some people have that you can't be 'working-class' and go to university in this day and age is ludicrous. I come from a tiny terraced house in London but I go to a (supposedly) good art school which as it is charges the maximum fees possible. Still, there's no correlation between where you come from and where you can go, I don't think. The fees are already enormous at my uni, but obviously the 'poorer' you are, the more financial assistance you (quite rightly) will get, plus nobody has to pay their student debts until they're in a position to do so. People are behaving as if bailiffs are going to be turning up on future graduate's doorsteps.

St martins?
No you are correct, just because you go to Uni doesn't make you Middle class- it's not like it was up to the early 90's.
I have met your husband a couple of times I hear he crashed his care in Hove (a few of my friends live in Brighton and Hove(l) ).

[RorschachAndProzac]

St martins?
No you are correct, just because you go to Uni doesn't make you Middle class- it's not like it was up to the early 90's.

It is St. Martins. Unfortunately it doesn't live up to the hype!

[RorschachAndProzac]

St martins?
No you are correct, just because you go to Uni doesn't make you Middle class- it's not like it was up to the early 90's.
I have met your husband a couple of times I hear he crashed his care in Hove (a few of my friends live in Brighton and Hove(l) ).

I completely missed the second part of your post, sorry! I'm quite envious of you meeting my husband. Was it a pleasant experience?

Yeah, he crashed his Jag. I'm glad he didn't make me a widow. A friend of mine lives in Hove and often sees Cave in Superdrug of all places. I don't know whether he goes there to stock up on 'Just For Men' though.

[murder and desire]

I completely missed the second part of your post, sorry! I'm quite envious of you meeting my husband. Was it a pleasant experience?

Yeah, he crashed his Jag. I'm glad he didn't make me a widow. A friend of mine lives in Hove and often sees Cave in Superdrug of all places. I don't know whether he goes there to stock up on 'Just For Men' though.

He has got quite thin, you need to cook bigger meals. I didn't say much to he he just waved both times.
I better stop, as I get told off for going off topic. Nice to meet you sweet pic- of youth

[murder and desire]

Why thank you.
Nice to meet you too! Ha, I'll try to cook bigger meals but I'm quite fond of the emaciated look...

Confused?

Oh, I see. Nice to have meet you you are quite the talent

[RorschachAndProzac]

Confused?

Yeah, me too..?
Nice to meet you, and thank you!

[murder and desire]

Confused?

Yeah, me too..?
Nice to meet you, and thank you!

That person has gone, now it looks like I am a mad man, talking to myself.

[RorschachAndProzac]

That person has gone, now it looks like I am a mad man, talking to myself.

Oh don't worry, this is Solo. Strangeness is to be expected!

[murder and desire]

Oh don't worry, this is Solo. Strangeness is to be expected!

Indeed, maybe base some art on it. I expect you are doing fashion

[Kewpie]

FAO: murder and desire and RoscharchAndProzac

I'm going to fix quote codes of your posts in this thread.

You should click Quote on the right bottom rather than C & P.

If you prefer C & P, make sure to add [quote] at the begining
and add / in between [ and
quote] at the end otherwise quote function does not work in your post.

Thank you very much.

[JoanOfArc]

Oh don't worry, this is Solo. Strangeness is to be expected!RorschachAndProzac aka largacil i think you should take Olanzapine instead of Prozac:lbf:
p.s.i hope you dont plan on new nasty threads about Morrissey like you did before.

[murder and desire]

RorschachAndProzac aka largacil i think you should take Olanzapine instead of Prozac:lbf:
p.s.i hope you dont plan on new nasty threads about Morrissey like you did before.

I am getting confused as to who is who on here

[JoanOfArc]

I am getting confused as to who is who on hereWell me too:lbf:

[murder and desire]

Oh dear, I now feel like the thick kid at the back of the class who doesn't know what an adjective is.
The Shame

[RorschachAndProzac]

RorschachAndProzac aka largacil i think you should take Olanzapine instead of Prozac:lbf:
p.s.i hope you dont plan on new nasty threads about Morrissey like you did before.

Sorry?

[RorschachAndProzac]

Indeed, maybe base some art on it. I expect you are doing fashion

Ah nearly, I do textiles, I'll try to base a weave on it.

[invalid]

That has ruined it for me, only messing.
Just because she is wealthy it doesn't mean her heart isn't in the correct place.
The reason I sometimes go off "on one" about people like xfactor contestants,Preston and David Calamity is becasue the xfactor people tend to be middle class kids with no real idea, whom are shallow and controlled by fashion who only use Morrissey as a starting point to further there careers as is Preston, in fact more so with him.
"Dave", should stopped is taking the country down the wrong road

THAT IS NOT MY NAME, I'M NOT WEALTHY, I DON'T GO TO OXFORD, NOR DID I GO TO MARLBOROUGH.
I am from North Shields and will everyone please refrain from slagging me for having the gaul to wear a teeshirt?

[invalid]

Leave off me.
It's not nice to be linked to an internet forum where people are either calling you a posh twat ( I'm not, dunno where all that Marlborough / oxford stuff, and for that matter completely different name business is from) or insinuating that you only like the smiths because its cool.
To put your mind to rest, I have loved the smiths since I was about 14 (which is why that teeshirt is so small), but do admit to wearing it as a nod to Morrisey and Marrs recent (and about time too) dismissal a Mr Cameron as a fan.
I hope that is up to the standards of this rather intense message board.

Now I shall get back to reading for my mickey mouse degree. Goodbye.
(apologies if this should appear twice, I'm not sure what's sending and what's not.)

[not_me_not_I]

They were just having a go - with an utter lack of information boredom leads them to make things up for their own amusement. Note the fake info given for the streaker.
The rest of us think you're fab.

[invalid]

They were just having a go - with an utter lack of information boredom leads them to make things up for their own amusement. Note the fake info given for the streaker.
The rest of us think you're fab.

Thank you friend, it's bloody ridiculous, you'd think Smiths fans would steer away from such unpleasantness.
I hope (and suspect) Moz doesn't own a computer..

[CrystalGeezer]

Thank you friend, it's bloody ridiculous, you'd think Smiths fans would steer away from such unpleasantness.
I hope (and suspect) Moz doesn't own a computer..

Can we see a pic of your lovely self as proof? :o The internet has taught me to be suspicious. :cool:

[billy scissors]

Leave off me.
It's not nice to be linked to an internet forum where people are either calling you a posh twat ( I'm not, dunno where all that Marlborough / oxford stuff, and for that matter completely different name business is from) or insinuating that you only like the smiths because its cool.
To put your mind to rest, I have loved the smiths since I was about 14 (which is why that teeshirt is so small), but do admit to wearing it as a nod to Morrisey and Marrs recent (and about time too) dismissal a Mr Cameron as a fan.
I hope that is up to the standards of this rather intense message board.

Now I shall get back to reading for my mickey mouse degree. Goodbye.
(apologies if this should appear twice, I'm not sure what's sending and what's not.)

Why are posh people called "posh twats" my neighbours posh,but shes no twat.Shes made me a christmas cake.

ps.Now that weve established youre not Penelope Smitherington-Smythe,I think you should stay

[murder and desire]

Thank you friend, it's bloody ridiculous, you'd think Smiths fans would steer away from such unpleasantness.
I hope (and suspect) Moz doesn't own a computer..

Why you emailed me about this, I don't know. I never said anything against you- why would I?
I was the one sticking up for you and saying it was a nice picture.

One thing though, of course Morrissey has a computer, most people know that- how do you think he sent an email.
He owns a mac or did

[murder and desire]

Leave off me.
It's not nice to be linked to an internet forum where people are either calling you a posh twat ( I'm not, dunno where all that Marlborough / oxford stuff, and for that matter completely different name business is from) or insinuating that you only like the smiths because its cool.
To put your mind to rest, I have loved the smiths since I was about 14 (which is why that teeshirt is so small), but do admit to wearing it as a nod to Morrisey and Marrs recent (and about time too) dismissal a Mr Cameron as a fan.
I hope that is up to the standards of this rather intense message board.

Now I shall get back to reading for my mickey mouse degree. Goodbye.
(apologies if this should appear twice, I'm not sure what's sending and what's not.)

I wouldn't worry this will blow over. Count yourself lucky you are in an iconic photo and have thus become part of Smiths mythology.
I expect you will end up as a Morrissey concert back drop.
I will say though, you emailed the wrong person I didn't say anything nasty about you.

[invalid]

I wouldn't worry this will blow over. Count yourself luck you are in an iconic photo and have thus become part of Smiths mythology.
I expect you will end up as a Morrissey concert back drop.
I will say though, you email the wrong person I didn't say anything nasty about you.

Soz mate, it's just awfully bewildering to have ones mug commented upon by faceless and occaisionally offensive forumers, especially in what could be called a compromising scenario!

[murder and desire]

Soz mate, it's just awfully bewildering to have ones mug commented upon by faceless and occaisionally offensive forumers, especially in what could be called a compromising scenario!

Well, life is full of bitches dear.
You just have to roll with the punches. If I were you I would contact True to you (another website) and ask them to ask Morrissey to sign a print of the photo for you.

[Cornflakes]

Hi Invalid.

If that's you in the pic, I can pretty much assure you that no-one else here has anything like as cool a photo for their family album, so don't worry. You win and you put us all to shame.

If it's not you in the photo then well done also for being quite convincing.

Cheers.

[Raphael Lambach]

We cannot judge her only for being or not posh. She was struggling hardly for something she really believe and no one will take it off of her.

[billy scissors]

we cannot judge her only for being or not posh. She was struggling hardly for something she really believe and no one will take it off of her.

ha ha haaa!

[CharlieFairhead]

The lady in question should expect a postcard from the man himself.

[not_me_not_I]

Thank you friend, it's bloody ridiculous, you'd think Smiths fans would steer away from such unpleasantness.
I hope (and suspect) Moz doesn't own a computer..

Point one: yes it is, and one would think, but this is solow, and one comes to expect the opposite for the most part. (why do I hang out here? cause there are also a bunch of nice, interesting people and you never know what news gems are going to pop up)
Point two: he owns one, gives out his email to lucky journalists and collaborators, apparently knows what "frink" means, and loathes most of this site.

It's always nice to have more pleasant Smiths fans around though.

BTW - TTY has now added the credit to the photo.

[marred]

I've done some snooping:

The protestor's name is Lauren Fulwood Willoughby & she's a third year philosophy student at Oxford. She originally attended Marlborough College (the same school as Kate Middleton - fiance of Prince William) & is a distant decendant of Clementina Drummond-Willoughby, 24th Baroness Willoughby de Eresby.

Interesting huh?

not really but it's still a great photo nonetheless... or somethemore :) Lucky there was a great photographer in that position at the time. I'd hate to see this moment captured sub par.

btw the police seem a bit blaze do they not?

[largactil]

RorschachAndProzac aka largacil i think you should take Olanzapine instead of Prozac:lbf:
p.s.i hope you dont plan on new nasty threads about Morrissey like you did before.

I used to have a Twitter called @MistressCave, to which there was once a link on my Solo page, hence my reply about cooking him better food. I was joking.......! I realised it'd make no sense so I deleted it, that's all. For the record I've never even started a thread on here, let alone a nasty one.

[largactil]

I wouldn't worry this will blow over. Count yourself lucky you are in an iconic photo and have thus become part of Smiths mythology.
I expect you will end up as a Morrissey concert back drop.
I will say though, you emailed the wrong person I didn't say anything nasty about you.

Yeh. This. Absolutely mega to be in an image like this.

[invalid]

What does frink mean?

[prisoner77]

Why do so many people on this site have a huge problem with privileged or so-called 'posh' people?

I don't understand that either, they're so funny.

[RorschachAndProzac]

I don't understand that either, they're so funny.

Envy! People can't help what 'class' they're born into. I live near Harrow school and lots of the 'working-class' boys from a nearby college like to take the piss out of the 'posh twats' from the public school. For NO other reason than the fact that they're privileged. People are strange.

[Worm]

I have no idea if Invalid is the person in the picture or not, but if she is, I think most of us here (and elsewhere) are feeling nothing but admiration and respect for anyone courageous enough to wear a Smiths t-shirt in public.

Oh, and face off against riot police, too, I suppose. :rolleyes:

All this stuff about being "posh" I don't understand at all, but I'm pretty sure it's a carryover from a recent discussion about Marr's comments about David Cameron, hence the perceived intensity. Nothing personal intended. If you'd like to change the topic, get someone to ask if Morrissey is gay or not. All other threads will immediately be forgotten in a berserk cage match. :)

By the way, Guide Dog, I almost called bullshit on your "discovery" of her identity. Suspiciously quick on the information dump. "Third year philosophy student at Oxford"...cheeky devil. :)

[IDon'tOweYouAnything23]

It could be said that there's no such thing as a class system in Britain any more. Well, not one that's easily definable anyway.

A minority upper class, a majority, wishy-washy middle class and then what some people refer to as 'the underclass.' Either the working class are obsolete or the boundaries have just changed.


The upper class though, well, they can just f**k off.

[Worm]

It could be said that there's no such thing as a class system in Britain any more. Well, not one that's easily definable anyway.

A minority upper class, a majority, wishy-washy middle class and then what some people refer to as 'the underclass.' Either the working class are obsolete or the boundaries have just changed.


The upper class though, well, they can just f**k off.

I don't know if what you say about the class system is true or not, but if a revolution ever comes along-- it may well not-- its ranks will be full of young people born after The Smiths split up, couldn't live without their iPods, love their lattes, and buy their t-shirts at the mall. Contradictions are to be expected, even apparently profound ones. That's why all this flap about the girl being "posh" is silly.

[IDon'tOweYouAnything23]

I don't know if what you say about the class system is true or not, but if a revolution ever comes along-- it may well not-- its ranks will be full of young people born after The Smiths split up, couldn't live without their iPods, love their lattes, and buy their t-shirts at the mall. Contradictions are to be expected, even apparently profound ones. That's why all this flap about the girl being "posh" is silly.

I'm not sure if what I say about class is true either, it's just a theory based on observation.

I'm one of those young victims of the times. (Lattes though? behave.) Would I participate in said revolution though....I'd probably just turn it on its head staying in bed to be fair.

Now apparently the girl in the photo isn't 'posh.' It shouldn't matter but for many it does... someone who was born with a silver spoon up their arse deciding to wear a Smiths t-shirt is a 'profound contradiction.' Sad but true.

[CrystalGeezer]

What does frink mean?

It's the word used to describe Morrissey's sexiness or something. Frisky and kinky. It's an entire thread of Morrissey photos. It wasn't invented here, some other musician had a "frink" thread and a Morrissey fan started one up here. It's not an insult.

[Bluebirds]

On an aesthetic and political level its a great photo. Anyone know what Mike Joyce's opinion on the photo is? I hope he's not claiming royalties.


Many people of my age who claim to be Smiths fans think the students went too far. I don't; up the civil disobedience. And I think the Royals were a legitimate target.

[Worm]

Now apparently the girl in the photo isn't 'posh.' It shouldn't matter but for many it does... someone who was born with a silver spoon up their arse deciding to wear a Smiths t-shirt is a 'profound contradiction.' Sad but true.

Considering that most of us unintentionally benefit from a global system of inequality and exploitation, the working definition of "hypocrite" has unfortunately loosened up quite a bit. It's not just the rich people in whom one can spot serious contradictions. But that really speaks to my point: the first thing we need to do is get past any rigid notions of who has a legitimate right to protest and who doesn't.

[Emotional Guide Dog]

Considering that most of us unintentionally benefit from a global system of inequality and exploitation, the working definition of "hypocrite" has unfortunately loosened up quite a bit. It's not just the rich people in whom one can spot serious contradictions. But that really speaks to my point: the first thing we need to do is get past any rigid notions of who has a legitimate right to protest and who doesn't.

This has been an excellent thread.

In case anyone hasn't already figured it out, I completely made up her name & details. I wanted to see if people would see the photo in the same light if they thought she was posh.

And yours was an excellent post.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

In case anyone hasn't already figured it out, I completely made up her name & details. I wanted to see if people would see the photo in the same light if they thought she was posh.
First of all, I cannot see the photo you posted. :straightface:
Secondly, you lied to me EGD!? :eek:
I don't think I can ever trust you again. :lbf:

[CrystalGeezer]

In case anyone hasn't already figured it out, I completely made up her name & details. I wanted to see if people would see the photo in the same light if they thought she was posh.


http://dan-hwang.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/liar.jpeg

[Emotional Guide Dog]

First of all, I cannot see the photo you posted. :straightface:
Secondly, you lied to me EGD!? :eek:
I don't think I can ever trust you again. :lbf:

The photo is the very first post of this thread

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

The photo is the very first post of this thread

oh, that photo, I know all about that photo :straightface:
I read all about her on Facebook :thumb:
I thought you posted some other photo, of some, you know, dude :o

[Paulc]

Just to say this thread and the one about PMQs have been hugely interesting

There hasnt been much Moz news of late but suddenly boom!

I still cannot quite believe MPs were quoting Smiths songs to each other in parliament. (Talk about strange and unexpected Moz references)

And invalid - if that is you in the pic - huge admiration both for your cause and your choice of apparel. Good luck.

[IDon'tOweYouAnything23]

Considering that most of us unintentionally benefit from a global system of inequality and exploitation, the working definition of "hypocrite" has unfortunately loosened up quite a bit. It's not just the rich people in whom one can spot serious contradictions. But that really speaks to my point: the first thing we need to do is get past any rigid notions of who has a legitimate right to protest and who doesn't.

I'm not really sure it's a question of 'right' to protest. Somebody from a low-income family hasn't got more of right to protest against the student fees for example, but surely they do have a licence to be angry. More of a licence than Tarquin and Tatty have because it won't effect them as deeply.

(This thread veered off-topic years ago and I'm just making it worse :o)

[Worm]

I'm not really sure it's a question of 'right' to protest. Somebody from a low-income family hasn't got more of right to protest against the student fees for example, but surely they do have a licence to be angry. More of a licence than Tarquin and Tatty have because it won't effect them as deeply.

(This thread veered off-topic years ago and I'm just making it worse :o)

Well, sure, I guess I was using the word loosely. Anyone has a "right" to protest. Or so it says on the old pieces of parchment with which our governments have been wiping their collective asses for the last decade. :rolleyes:

[MuteWitness616]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a308/jasonwillis/l01_26265027.jpg

What if shes not even a Smiths fan.. like she bought her shirt at a thrift store... You guys are making a big deal out of nothing

[Uncleskinny]

What if shes not even a Smiths fan.. like she bought her shirt at a thrift store... You guys are making a big deal out of nothing

I think whether she's a fan or not is irrelevant - the imagery is everything.

P.

[Kewpie]

THAT IS NOT MY NAME, I'M NOT WEALTHY, I DON'T GO TO OXFORD, NOR DID I GO TO MARLBOROUGH.
I am from North Shields and will everyone please refrain from slagging me for having the gaul to wear a teeshirt?


Leave off me.
It's not nice to be linked to an internet forum where people are either calling you a posh twat ( I'm not, dunno where all that Marlborough / oxford stuff, and for that matter completely different name business is from) or insinuating that you only like the smiths because its cool.
To put your mind to rest, I have loved the smiths since I was about 14 (which is why that teeshirt is so small), but do admit to wearing it as a nod to Morrisey and Marrs recent (and about time too) dismissal a Mr Cameron as a fan.
I hope that is up to the standards of this rather intense message board.

Now I shall get back to reading for my mickey mouse degree. Goodbye.
(apologies if this should appear twice, I'm not sure what's sending and what's not.)


What if shes not even a Smiths fan.. like she bought her shirt at a thrift store... You guys are making a big deal out of nothing

Have you read a user invalid's posts?

[Uncleskinny]

Leave off me.
It's not nice to be linked to an internet forum where people are either calling you a posh twat ( I'm not, dunno where all that Marlborough / oxford stuff, and for that matter completely different name business is from) or insinuating that you only like the smiths because its cool.
To put your mind to rest, I have loved the smiths since I was about 14 (which is why that teeshirt is so small), but do admit to wearing it as a nod to Morrisey and Marrs recent (and about time too) dismissal a Mr Cameron as a fan.
I hope that is up to the standards of this rather intense message board.

Now I shall get back to reading for my mickey mouse degree. Goodbye.
(apologies if this should appear twice, I'm not sure what's sending and what's not.)

Well, I for one salute you. Nice one. you should be really, really proud that both Morrissey and Marr are very, very impressed by what you did.

P.

[roky]

Don't worry, the protester in the photo can afford to hire a powerful lawyer to represent her case.

How do you know? Do you know her?

[marred]

after taking another look at this photo it's starting to lose it's impact. The police seem to be oblivious to her ranting or whatever she's doing standing on that barricade. They're just standing there doing their job and she seems to be the only one in the photo in an uproar. It looks very orchestrated. I think I was initially taken in just because of the smiths t shirt and the recent silly business with David Cameron which is kinda much a do about nothing anyway. I couldn't give a shit if Hitler loved the smiths. The photo just seems a little too perfect. Someone is holding her up, no one is in the way of that perfect view of the smiths t shirt. I'm sure the sentiment is genuine but it seems staged. Take the smiths shirt out of the equation and no one would bat an eyelid including Moz & Marr.

As you can see I'm not wetting my pants like everyone else :)

[joe frady]

Talking of pants; she needs a belt. :)

Fascist!
;)

[Robert Neville]

Fucking students.

[Kewpie]

Fucking students.

Aren't you studying at university, Robert? :confused:

[Robert Neville]

Aren't you studying at university, Robert? :confused:

shhhhh, dont unearth my hidden hypocrisy

[murder and desire]

From what I have heard, the bright young thing is a tad unwell at the minute so, please, be kind and wish her well.

[Patrick!]

this is my new desktop background

[Ben Budd]

Fucking students.

This, but unironically.

[Robert Neville]

This, but unironically.

I wasnt being ironic. Students, I feel, need to stiffen their upper lips and take the hit on the chin. Its not like the government are just taking their axe to students and fees.

[Patrick!]

i think more people need to flip a shit in a country where cops don't have guns.

[Ben Chill]

There's a short article about this picture here:

www.kevinmarinan.co.uk

[kyleleonard]

I never liked this picture, at all.

[lainey]

There's a short article about this picture here:

www.kevinmarinan.co.uk

Nice article, thanks

[Helen Bach]

(Can't remember which thread this should go in.)

Some bloke interviewed her.. here:

www.kevinmarinan.co.uk

[CrystalGeezer]

She's very well-spoken. Good find.

[Uncleskinny]

It's one of Johnny's highlights of the year (http://twitpic.com/3llwxe).

P.

[goinghome]

Johny Marr twittered about the English forest sales, and other trends suggesting a disenfranchising of citizens are being decried in sections of the press: attitudes to immigrants - http://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/simon-mcmahon/too-many-immigrants-too-little-english?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+opendemocracy+%28openDemocrac y%29# ; privatisation of the health services - http://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/oliver-huitson/is-britain-plutocracy-according-to-nhs-reforms?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+opendemocracy+%28openDemocrac y%29# ; and loss of values of state investment e.g. "..Conservatives are no longer advocates of ‘the Conservative Nation’, which once informed and inhabited their politics. Nor are they in one sense strictly unionists, in that they understand and grasp the union state nature of the UK. They have instead become arch-unitary state believers. In this they have become, perhaps unwittingly, constitutional vandals and ahistorical in how they understand the history, make-up and nature of the UK..." - http://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/gerry-hassan/it-is-time-for-english-voice?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+opendemocracy+%28openDemocrac y%29#

Could it be time for a new song about a guillotine?! :guitar: