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jessesamuel
October 15, 2010, 03:09 AM
In 2009 all the Smiths albums were remastered and reissued on vinyl and mp3. I can find the vinyl on Amazon - but where can I get the 300 kbps mp3s?
egosheep
October 15, 2010, 04:49 AM
Deemonoide.:p
ToDieByYourSide
October 15, 2010, 01:31 PM
http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/archive/index.php/t-99626.html
Much debate on if these are really "official"
motorways
October 15, 2010, 05:10 PM
In 2009 all the Smiths albums were remastered and reissued on vinyl and mp3. I can find the vinyl on Amazon - but where can I get the 300 kbps mp3s?
Are you talking about the 180 gram Rhino reissues of the 4 albums? (s/t, Meat Is Murder, The Queen Is Dead, Strangeways)
"Remastering supervised by Johnny Marr"
As far as I know, MP3s were never offered. At Least there were no download codes with the LPs.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i148/gregvaux/31bd81bf.jpg
jessesamuel
October 15, 2010, 05:37 PM
Yeah, I was talking about those Rhino remasters. There was a story (http://www.morrissey-solo.com/article.pl?sid=09/06/23/1524210) that there were mp3s included.
On the current poll someone said:
the smiths albums have already BEEN remastered (Score:0)
seriously? OK, the smiths remasters have not been released on CD, but they were all remastered by johnny marr and released on vinyl (and accompanying 320 kbps download) in 2009.
all four albums, alongside 'the sound of the smiths' compilation and 7" and CD singles box sets.
remastered...by johnny marr...released.
and no, i don't care if you don't have a turntable. all the vinyl formats included high-quality downloads of every track. would CD's be nice? sure. but if people are really so desperate for remasters, they're already out there.
oh, and like someone else said, it seems like most people have no idea what remastering actually is...especially the guy who wants "kill uncle" remixed with additional guitars.
keep up, people.
pronocturn
October 17, 2010, 12:34 AM
Vouchers for 320kbps MP3s of the remastered album tracks were sent with each 180 gram vinyl LP, you can download these from the Rhino website and are, as far as I'm aware, one of the only ways of listening to the Johnny Marr 2009 Smiths remasters (apart from The Sound Of The Smiths and the CD Singles boxset of course). I think it is a case of one-download-per-person/purchase from the Rhino website, so there's no possibility of sharing this data. However, there are shadier ways of finding them (and trust me it is worth it - the remastered tracks sound excellent, especially on the first two albums) - someone already mentioned deeeeeemonoid so I'd suggest you try there first.
pronocturn
October 17, 2010, 12:36 AM
I'm talking about the UK reissues by the way, not sure about the US ones. The UK vinyls all came with download codes/vouches within the vinyl packaging.
jessesamuel
October 18, 2010, 02:39 PM
Oh, thank you. That clears up the last of my questions about the remasters!
But I can't download the torrents at Demonoide - I need an invitation code because registration is closed. Can anyone help?
ToDieByYourSide
October 18, 2010, 05:24 PM
If you are able to get .mp3's of the remasters, heres hoping that you will post them :thumb:
egosheep
October 19, 2010, 10:58 PM
I don't have an invitation code to give, but I have put the remastered albums here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MOGHMJBK
Enjoy... :guitar:
Oso Blanco
October 20, 2010, 05:09 PM
as far as I'm aware, one of the only ways of listening to the Johnny Marr 2009 Smiths remasters (apart from The Sound Of The Smiths and the CD Singles boxset of course).
As far as I know, neither Johnny Marr nor Stephen Street were involved in The Sound Of The Smiths or the Singles Box Set.
jessesamuel
October 20, 2010, 05:29 PM
Wow! Thanks!
DavidA
October 21, 2010, 08:30 AM
As far as I know, neither Johnny Marr nor Stephen Street were involved in The Sound Of The Smiths or the Singles Box Set.
Marr got involved in the remastering of Sound of the Smiths. Interview here (http://entertainment.ie/Music/feature/The-Sound-of-The-Smiths/1/61.htm).
pronocturn
October 21, 2010, 09:48 AM
A quick trip to the Rhino UK website shows that the Singles CD Box Set used the Frank Arkwright/Johnny Marr remasters (here (http://www.rhino.co.uk/store/products,the-smiths-cd-singles-box_6346.htm)) and one of the main selling points of The Sound Of The Smiths was that it used Johnny Marr approved (re)masters.
Oso Blanco
October 21, 2010, 07:43 PM
But what about the remasters that Stephen Street did with Johnny Marr? I'm very curious to hear these ... I hope they are better than the Frank Arkwright remasters.
deaduncle
October 22, 2010, 03:45 PM
Egosheep YOU ARE THE BEST!!! THANKS!!! :)
ADAM
October 22, 2010, 10:02 PM
Are these the same as the discs that I bought from Japan?
egosheep
October 23, 2010, 05:32 AM
But what about the remasters that Stephen Street did with Johnny Marr? I'm very curious to hear these ... I hope they are better than the Frank Arkwright remasters.
I don't think I have heard of these, yet. I read an article about the Arkwright ones, though.
The Japanese CD's are from 2006, they are a different remaster. You can get them online in lossless.
robbanks
December 9, 2010, 12:17 AM
I procrastinated getting the reissued Smiths LP's from last year until last week. My UK and Japanese Smiths vinyl sounds damn good. I caved last week and ordered the imports from Amazon.de because, believe it or not, they were cheaper than the US Rhino issues. They also came with 320 kbps downloads of each album. I thought it would be novel if these downloads were the remasters that Johnny Marr oversaw, as I'm not aware of digital versions of the remasters being officially released.
It turns out they ARE the entire albums remastered, and a comparison with my best cd copy of each of the 4 albums, shows a fantastic improvement in the sound. The bass is wonderful and sounds like a live electric bass, now. The high end is much less digital, more delicate, and airy. They are not over compressed like the new Bona Drag reissue.
I'm curious if these downloads the only place to get the remastered albums. I understand itunes has the albums available now and wonder if anyone has compared these to any old versions of the albums.
If iTunes (or other digital sites) has remastered versions, they are worth it for the great sound, if you're into that kind of thing!
mywar
December 9, 2010, 01:35 AM
I'm kind of just guessing here, but I would think the versions available from iTunes etc are the same old versions, and not the remasters, seeing as how the remastered LPs are more of a novelty/special interest type thing than a new general release. But what do I know. Either way, there are vinyl rips available here and there around the web.
robbanks
December 9, 2010, 05:15 AM
Well hopefully, when higher than 320kbps versions are released, either on cd or otherwise, they won't screw up these remasters, because they are very well done, sounding good even at that bitrate.
They're worth tracking down until something better comes along.
egosheep
December 9, 2010, 10:53 AM
I'm kind of just guessing here, but I would think the versions available from iTunes etc are the same old versions, and not the remasters, seeing as how the remastered LPs are more of a novelty/special interest type thing than a new general release. But what do I know. Either way, there are vinyl rips available here and there around the web.
I have found and downloaded the TQID rip, but none of the others... are they out there?
mywar
December 10, 2010, 08:40 AM
Yeah. At least MP3.
egosheep
December 11, 2010, 06:59 AM
Yeah. At least MP3.
I have all the remastered albums in mp3, and I posted a link to them in this thread. The version of TQID I found was over 700 megabytes, 24 bit quality!! I wish I could get the other albums!!
donunus
December 11, 2010, 10:00 AM
700mb? Thats weird. Mine was the standard 320 mp3 size. Link maybe :D
egosheep
December 11, 2010, 06:29 PM
Here (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OX5XZBA7) you go. Enjoy!
donunus
December 12, 2010, 06:23 AM
Thanks! I'm really curious to know whats in there for mp3s to be such a huuuuge size :)
egosheep
December 12, 2010, 06:45 AM
Thanks! I'm really curious to know whats in there for mp3s to be such a huuuuge size :)
There's nothing but the songs on The Queen Is Dead album. The recordings are ripped from the vinyl at 24 bit, which is higher than CD quality. This is considered HD audio, way beyond CD's.
donunus
December 12, 2010, 06:58 AM
Ahaaahh so its a vinyl rip from one of the guys that bought the LP, and maybe in FLAC. Cool! Anyway the official ones that are only on mp3 format are still on the deeeemonooiiid site
egosheep
December 12, 2010, 08:17 AM
Yeah they are in FLAC. I also put a link to all 4 mp3 albums on page 1 of this thread.
donunus
December 12, 2010, 08:40 AM
By the way the rar file is corrupted :(
egosheep
December 13, 2010, 01:08 AM
Try it again. I got it from the same link and it's working for me. Use WinRar.
marred
December 16, 2010, 11:21 PM
I don't have an invitation code to give, but I have put the remastered albums here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MOGHMJBK
Enjoy... :guitar:
thx sheep these sound great! Well Strangeways does anyway. I'll get to the rest later. I'm not even sure if it's the remastering, probably is but Stop me sounds amazing especially the guitars :)
Purple
March 18, 2011, 04:08 PM
Many thanks egosheep!:
I had downloaded the a while ago but hadn't really listened to them until yesterday when I was trying to figure out a few songs from The Queen Is Dead. A lot of things sound a lot more clearly! Really great!
The Fourth Gender
March 18, 2011, 07:50 PM
I acquired the mp3 versions a while ago. The sound seems good, although I have yet to try them out on a stereo. (Only headphones thus far.) There is certainly more clarity because they went back to the original tapes. However, they seem just a tad bassy and compressed.
They need to reissue the albums on CD!
The Fourth Gender
March 18, 2011, 07:52 PM
thx sheep these sound great! Well Strangeways does anyway. I'll get to the rest later. I'm not even sure if it's the remastering, probably is but Stop me sounds amazing especially the guitars :)
I never realized how awful the Sire "Strangeways" CD was until I heard the original Rough Trade pressing. I don't know what happened when the tapes came to America but that Sire CD is rubbish. Anything is an improvement over that!
egosheep
March 18, 2011, 09:01 PM
I have a lossless 24bit vinyl rip of the remastered QID. I also have 24bit vinyl rips of several rough trade releases... Hatful, Debut, MIM, QID and SHWC. I have all of these on RT cd's as well, ripped to flac. I could put these up at some point, but the vinyl rips are all very large... 8-900 mb per disc.
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