Morrissey's attitude towards his fans

[MuteWitness616]

Morrissey seems to be very shy when meeting somebody off stage. Somebody on facebook brought this to my mind.

One of the reasons Morrissey sets a distance from his fans off stage is because hes afraid to dissapoint them. He feels like we probably expect him to be some incredibly charming man and extremely loving. As he said in one interview, Morrissey does not have a charm. At least in his eyes he doesn't.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

I think he loves us all. :blushing:

[jamescagney]

Morrissey seems to be very shy when meeting somebody off stage. Somebody on facebook brought this to my mind.

One of the reasons Morrissey sets a distance from his fans off stage is because hes afraid to dissapoint them. He feels like we probably expect him to be some incredibly charming man and extremely loving. As he said in one interview, Morrissey does not have a charm. At least in his eyes he doesn't.

makes sense to me. He's so often singing about shyness and isolation, which is why many of us relate to him. The pressure to impress, lest he dissapoint, can be quite heavy for those with social anxiety.

[M-in-Oz]

reminds me of this quote by Jo Slee:

"He can walk up to any kind of celebrity - someone who has a public persona he admires - without fear or shyness," she says. "He can go into an in-depth conversation as if he's known them for years. But if he's confronted by someone about whom he doesn't have an image, a sense of who they are, he's completely lost. He needs to observe people, probably for several years, before he can open a conversation. When you see children together, they're entirely contained in their bubble and they don't speak. When you look at them again, they've stepped out and they're playing together. I don't think Morrissey can do that. He never developed that."

It would be difficult to meet/talk to people who know details of your life but you know little (was going to write nothing) of theirs.

[Daddy Cool]

We're not fans, we're The Audience.

[Jukebox Jury]

We're not fans, we're The Audience.

Or, as football fans are referred to nowadays, ''we are customers'':mad:

I think one of the reasons he is wary towards fans is because I imagine there are a couple of nutters out there, camped outside where ever he is staying.
As stated above, he needs time to be able to suss out the genuine fan who just happened to bump into him and the serial stalkers.
Some of whom may even frequent this site:eek::thumb::D

Jukebox Jury

[CrystalGeezer]

http://www.ewtn.com/Devotionals/heart/maryHeart.jpg

Ummmmm, super famous. :p

[dunya]

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2Ck_i9tJBs


A2Ck_i9tJBs

from 5'45

a few snips..
"It's difficult to make the right face..."
"You don't want to hurt people's feelings..."
"I don't feel any sense of responsibility towards.."
"it's interesting.."

If we take what is said here at face value, then I think that while Morrissey appreciates the loyalty of his "fans", he understands the psychological dynamics which fuel that.

I wonder, knowing what it feel like to be a fan, he doesn't want to upset them, but sometimes wishes they would stop bothering him when he just wants to buy some toothpaste, etc..?

I also wonder, as an individual who values personal autonomy, what he thinks of those who model their looks, values, dedicate a significant proportion of their spare time/income to the public persona of a pop singer.

Being a "fan" can be a useful distraction, an enjoyable hobby, an escape from a harsh world, an abdication of responsibility for own life choices, a means of affirming a sense of belonging ....

it begins to sound like a religion already.

[roky]

91-92 Massive stage fans and flowers
94-95 More stage fans than flowers
97 Flowers and stage iffy
99-02 Flowers and stage
04 - Massive production, not many stage fans or flowers
06-09 Select flowers, some stage fans..

[Qvist]

Well, most interviews I've read seem to make a point of his self-assuredness and charm, even magnetism. What I've heard and seen of live interviews, he doesn't come across as awkward or shy to me. But perhaps he's more at home in the interview situation than elsewhere.

cheers

[troubleluvsme]

One of the reasons Morrissey sets a distance from his fans off stage is because hes afraid to dissapoint them. He feels like we probably expect him to be some incredibly charming man and extremely loving. As he said in one interview, Morrissey does not have a charm. At least in his eyes he doesn't.

Ummmm...most "celebrities" do set a distance between themselves and their fans. Seriously, what would you expect him to do?

I don't think it has anything to do with being afraid of disappointing us....if he was afraid of that, he wouldn't have been putting out crap records, re- releasing old songs, or canceling gigs.

[jamescagney]

I imagine there are a couple of nutters out there, camped outside where ever he is staying.
As stated above, he needs time to be able to suss out the genuine fan who just happened to bump into him and the serial stalkers.

I like the serial stalkers who chase the Beatles throughout their movies... and the ones who camp out to see and follow the Rolling Stones or the Grateful Dead. Only they usually aren't called "serial stalkers." ;)

[Girl-with-the-Thorn]

makes sense to me. He's so often singing about shyness and isolation, which is why many of us relate to him. The pressure to impress, lest he dissapoint, can be quite heavy for those with social anxiety.


reminds me of this quote by Jo Slee:

"He can walk up to any kind of celebrity - someone who has a public persona he admires - without fear or shyness," she says. "He can go into an in-depth conversation as if he's known them for years. But if he's confronted by someone about whom he doesn't have an image, a sense of who they are, he's completely lost. He needs to observe people, probably for several years, before he can open a conversation. When you see children together, they're entirely contained in their bubble and they don't speak. When you look at them again, they've stepped out and they're playing together. I don't think Morrissey can do that. He never developed that."

It would be difficult to meet/talk to people who know details of your life but you know little (was going to write nothing) of theirs.

Yes, I agree. I think he is generally quite shy and also concerned about disappointing 'the fans', but also extremely private and generally prefers to keep his distance until he knows someone well (or knows more about them perhaps). As he said, "It takes me a long time with people". I get that.