Prince Charles to visit Salford Lads Club - Thursdy 4th Feb

[Dave2006]

Doesn't he know that the Queen is Dead?

http://salfordladsclub.org.uk/2010/01/prince-charles-to-visit-the-club/

Altogther now :

Charles, dont you ever crave
to appear on the front of the Daily mail
dressed in your Mother's bridal veil?

And given that Camilla will be there as well:

I'd like to drop my trousers to the Queen

Dave

[Jukebox Jury]

Hmmmm I wonder if he wants a copy of Morrissey's Manchester?:thumb:

I may end up going to this through work...... but then seeing as I haven't received an invite must mean they don't want me there:eek::lbf:

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[Dave2006]

Hmmmm I wonder if he want's a copy of Morrissey's Manchester?:thumb:

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How else do you think he will find his way there - without your handy guide book :lbf:

Someone must turn up in a QiD t-shirt

Dave

[Jukebox Jury]

How else do you think he will find his way there - without your handy guide book :lbf:

Someone must turn up in a QiD t-shirt

Dave

I can just imagine him getting the 33 bus to Eccles and getting off just after Sainsburys and walking the rest of the way to the club:lbf::D

I do hope Leslie at the club gets him to pose outside the door:guitar:

Six years ago, I met his Uncle there:thumb:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/86/86601_duke_goes_pop_on_lads_club_tour.html
Check out my comment to him about the Smiths connection:cool:

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[Uncleskinny]

Good for him - maybe he can drop them a million. He's got plenty.

Peter

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

does Charlie know about the places connection to The Smiths? :straightface:

[goinghome]

That's wild!

Bring back a report please, and photos.:lbf:

[Jukebox Jury]

does Charlie know about the places connection to The Smiths? :straightface:

Well I gave his Uncle a copy of the splendid 'Morrissey's Manchester' six years ago..... if Charlie has done his homework.....:thumb:

Sir Jukebox Jury:bow:

[Dave2006]

Good for him - maybe he can drop them a million. He's got plenty.

Peter

Whatever we, or Morrissey think about it, it's obviously something that the club and its members want. See the link



TRH The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall will visit the club on Thursday 4th February.

The Prince, who is the President of The Prince’s Trust, and The Duchess of Cornwall will be shown around the club to meet young people and volunteers. Prince Charles will also deliver a speech to launch” Youth United in the North West”

It's good exposure for the club and that's surely a good thing. No doubt Leslie will bend his ear for more support.

Dave

[lainey]

What the ****!

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

Well I gave his Uncle a copy of the splendid 'Morrissey's Manchester' six years ago..... if Charlie has done his homework.....:thumb:

Sir Jukebox Jury:bow:

like you handed it to him and stuff :eek: or you mailed it and it was incinerated by "Special branch" :cool:

[Jukebox Jury]

like you handed it to him and stuff :eek: or you mailed it and it was incinerated by "Special branch" :cool:

Robbie
Read my post on this thread (number 4) - there is the link to when I gave it to him:thumb::cool::guitar:

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[Jukebox Jury]

Whatever we, or Morrissey think about it, it's obviously something that the club and its members want. See the link



TRH The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall will visit the club on Thursday 4th February.

The Prince, who is the President of The Prince’s Trust, and The Duchess of Cornwall will be shown around the club to meet young people and volunteers. Prince Charles will also deliver a speech to launch” Youth United in the North West”

It's good exposure for the club and that's surely a good thing. No doubt Leslie will bend his ear for more support.

Dave

Dave
There was a similar discussion when The Duke was there and a few on here had a pop at me for meeting him - which was fair enough and fully expected.
In a past employment role, I've met Charlie 5 times (including a trip to Highgrove with cucumber sandwiches and Pimms:yum:) - my views on the Monarchy differ from my views on the great work his Trust does and again, I have no problem living with the ''hypocrisy'' cries that may bring.
As you said above, it is a great opportunity to promote the club (as the Duke was a good opportunity for me to promote the book:laughing:) and also, all the press coverage tomorrow will no doubt give Morrissey and The Smiths a mentioned too, which is also a good thing:guitar:

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[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

Robbie
Read my post on this thread (number 4) - there is the link to when I gave it to him:thumb::cool::guitar:

Jukebox Jury

as I have stated before, often I only read the first post in a thread and then when people quote me, I just respond to those posts in which they quote
reading entire threads makes me want to hit myself with a hammer, just a tad
so I don't do it, sorry, if you really wanted me to read that link, then you could have quoted yourself :cool::p:lbf::o

[Jukebox Jury]

as I have stated before, often I only read the first post in a thread and then when people quote me, I just respond to those posts in which they quote
reading entire threads makes me want to hit myself with a hammer, just a tad
so I don't do it, sorry, if you really wanted me to read that link, then you could have quoted yourself :cool::p:lbf::o

You don't have to read the whole thread.......just the fourth post down.
If you can't be arsed doing that, why should I be arsed cutting and pasting it again, or quoting my own posts just for you? How do I know you will even bother clicking on the link if I re-post it? (It's not as if you don't have the time to do it:thumb:)
It's there if you want it, fourth post down. if you do not want it, it's not a big deal to me. I will survive;)

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[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

(It's not as if you don't have the time to do it
:ha-no:
I have to add to my resume, assuming this last job is worth adding :rolleyes:
anyways, I'll read it later, I pwaw-miss :thumb:

[goinghome]

The royal line was not denounced at SLC! -
http://www.salfordadvertiser.co.uk/news/s/1191581_charles_and_camilla_visit_iconic_salford_l ads_club

[Sim Tappertit]

There is a unique pop equation to be made here...

something along the lines of...

What are the chances/other instances where a living person mentioned in the lyrics of the title track of an album end up, in an unrelated event 25 years later, visiting the location used for band photo on the same album?

This is too weird!

[Dave2006]

Do you think Stephen Wright took this pic?
http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/5.$plit/C_71_article_1191581_image_list_image_list_item_0_ image.jpg?04%2F02%2F2010%2016%3A06%3A59%3A914
Something about it isn't quite right :lbf:

Dave

[lainey]

Do you think Stephen Wright took this pic?
Something about it isn't quite right :lbf:

Dave
none of it is right:mad:

[Jukebox Jury]

none of it is right:mad:

The publicity is right.
The building opened in 1904, The Smiths connection is from 1986.
The building remaining open means more to me (and the local community) than it does me taking fans from all over the world there, 'just' to have a picture taken.
If events like today's meeting helps keep it going, then so be it. For many of us here, it is 'just' a backdrop, a tourist destination. For the kids in the area it is one of the few places that they have where they can safely go each night.:guitar:

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[modrevolve]

Its great to have something like that to go to when your a child/teen. The big hangout where I live now on a Saturday night for the kids is in front of the Wawa (mini-mart).

[dailyalice]

The publicity is right.
The building opened in 1904, The Smiths connection is from 1986.
The building remaining open means more to me (and the local community) than it does me taking fans from all over the world there, 'just' to have a picture taken.
If events like today's meeting helps keep it going, then so be it. For many of us here, it is 'just' a backdrop, a tourist destination. For the kids in the area it is one of the few places that they have where they can safely go each night.:guitar:

Jukebox Jury

:thumb:
Great to have some balance and perspective.

[Jukebox Jury]

:thumb:
Great to have some balance and perspective.

:guitar:

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[lainey]

The publicity is right.
The building opened in 1904, The Smiths connection is from 1986.
The building remaining open means more to me (and the local community) than it does me taking fans from all over the world there, 'just' to have a picture taken.
If events like today's meeting helps keep it going, then so be it. For many of us here, it is 'just' a backdrop, a tourist destination. For the kids in the area it is one of the few places that they have where they can safely go each night.:guitar:

Jukebox Jury

I'm anti royalist so this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I watch the local news, Granada Reports and North west tonight and it wasn't mentioned. (just the Corra and steam train visit)

[Jukebox Jury]

I'm anti royalist so this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I watch the local news, Granada Reports and North west tonight and it wasn't mentioned. (just the Corra and steam train visit)

I'm an anti royalist too - and I worked for one of his charities for 5 years:laughing: (£23,000 a year was a decent wage 6 years ago:thumb:)
As I said, if it helps keeping the place going, then I have no problem with such visits.
There is a bigger picture going on. (And yes I know they have more than enough money to make a donation and keep the place going, but that isn't going to happen)

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Ps typical Granada, only showing them visiting their own programmes set..... nice balanced reporting there:rolleyes:

[Hellie]

Hmmmm I wonder if he wants a copy of Morrissey's Manchester?:thumb:

I may end up going to this through work...... but then seeing as I haven't received an invite must mean they don't want me there:eek::lbf:

Jukebox Jury
:eek:He's probably already got it!!:lbf:

I never told you JJ but in the summer I saw a copy of Morrissey's Manchester at a car boot sale ....after the initial shock and debating if I should cough up the 20p asking price I decided that it was so dog eared and coffee stained that it wasn't worth my dough.:lbf:

[Jukebox Jury]

:eek:He's probably already got it!!:lbf:

I never told you JJ but in the summer I saw a copy of Morrissey's Manchester at a car boot sale ....after the initial shock and debating if I should cough up the 20p asking price I decided that it was so dog eared and coffee stained that it wasn't worth my dough.:lbf:

Hellie
That was me flogging it at the car boot sale:D:lbf:

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[Hellie]

Hellie
That was me flogging it at the car boot sale:D:lbf:

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I never realised you were so dodgy looking!:eek::rolleyes:you need a new mac:thumb:

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/altorate/thisisourCity-1.jpg
whose my* Carlos?


ps: whose Carlos? :eek:


*=as in me, who or what be the "Carlos" of Scottish American born in L.A. :straightface:

[Jukebox Jury]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/altorate/thisisourCity-1.jpg
whose my* Carlos?


ps: whose Carlos? :eek:


*=as in me, who or what be the "Carlos" of Scottish American born in L.A. :straightface:

Robby,
He used to be a dirty red (Tevez, Tevez)
but now he is a Blue instead (Tevez, Tevez)
bQIBljjPaj4

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[Robert Tressell]

Fucking royal scum are always fucking royal scum.
They don't stop being fucking royal scum just cos they go to Salford.

Shame on you all.

[dailyalice]

I don't think we were debating the merits of royal scum, merely the merits of any action that keeps the club going. Might as well make fucking royal scum useful.

[Jukebox Jury]

Fucking royal scum are always fucking royal scum.
They don't stop being fucking royal scum just cos they go to Salford.

Shame on you all.

Who said they did?
And if they can be used to peoples advantage then more fool the Royals:thumb:

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[dailyalice]

JJ - :highfive:

[Jukebox Jury]

JJ - :highfive:

Your my new best friend:sweet::lbf:

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[Dave2006]

What matters is that the SLC wanted Charley boy there and the young people he met wanted to meet him.

I hope that the charity that I work for never invite any royals to come and visit - I've had a few close shaves in previous jobs.

I think it's great that Leslie made him use the rear entrance just so that the photographers could get 'that shot' :lbf:

Dave

[Jukebox Jury]

What matters is that the SLC wanted Charley boy there and the young people he met wanted to meet him.

I hope that the charity that I work for never invite any royals to come and visit - I've had a few close shaves in previous jobs.

I think it's great that Leslie made him use the rear entrance just so that the photographers could get 'that shot' :lbf:

Dave

Bang goes you MBE Dave:thumb::lbf:

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[lainey]

I'm an anti royalist too - and I worked for one of his charities for 5 years:laughing: (£23,000 a year was a decent wage 6 years ago:thumb:)

Are you taking the piss! That's more money than I earn NOW!




Ps typical Granada, only showing them visiting their own programmes set..... nice balanced reporting there:rolleyes:

And the BBC too, they just show Prince Charles and avoided Corrie.

[Robert Tressell]

You might value crumbs from the royal table. I don't.
That scum are the top symbol for a system that has kept kids like those in Salford in poverty for generations.

Should have shot the bastard not shook his blood stained hands.
The blood of children and animals.

Licking up to them just 'cos it might raise a few quid.

Fucking no hope for this country still if even Morrissey's people are prepared to play this game.

Shame on you.

[Kewpie]

You might value crumbs from the royal table. I don't.
That scum are the top symbol for a system that has kept kids like those in Salford in poverty for generations.

Should have shot the bastard not shook his blood stained hands.
The blood of children and animals.

Licking up to them just 'cos it might raise a few quid.

Fucking no hope for this country still if even Morrissey's people are prepared to play this game.

Shame on you.

You only started attacking people who accept the existance of the monachy.
Are you preparing to shot them and spend rest of your life in prison?

I do not support any country's monachy, they don't bother me much because they're also a part of the society / heritage.

IMHO British monachy has been improved in last 50 years, at least they pay income tax.

[Robert Tressell]

You only started attacking people who accept the existance of the monachy.
Are you preparing to shot them and spend rest of your life in prison?

I do not support any country's monachy, they don't bother me much because they're also a part of the society / heritage.

IMHO British monachy has been improved in last 50 years, at least they pay income tax.

They don't bother you because you have no idea about British politics or social history.

They love people like you. Ignorant.

[Kewpie]

They don't bother you because you have no idea about British politics or social history.

They love people like you. Ignorant.

:mock:

Just keep on ranting, your debating skill is hilarious!

[Robert Tressell]

:mock:

Just keep on ranting, your debating skill is hilarious!

Oh God. Time to go.

[dizzywhore_1804]

You might value crumbs from the royal table. I don't.
That scum are the top symbol for a system that has kept kids like those in Salford in poverty for generations.

Should have shot the bastard not shook his blood stained hands.
The blood of children and animals.

Licking up to them just 'cos it might raise a few quid.

Fucking no hope for this country still if even Morrissey's people are prepared to play this game.

Shame on you.

Dizzywhore_1804 stops where he is.
Covers RT in a towel to calm him down.
Turns off lights.
Back out of room.

FMyI, who are "Morrissey's people"? Is that like Kool & The Gang?

[Jukebox Jury]

Are you taking the piss! That's more money than I earn NOW!


Nope, that was the salary when I left:guitar:
They wanted quality at the interview...... they got it...and paid the going rate:thumb:


You might value crumbs from the royal table. I don't.
That scum are the top symbol for a system that has kept kids like those in Salford in poverty for generations.

Should have shot the bastard not shook his blood stained hands.
The blood of children and animals.

Licking up to them just 'cos it might raise a few quid.

Fucking no hope for this country still if even Morrissey's people are prepared to play this game.

Shame on you.

In isolation you make good points.
But please tell me in which country I could move too that doesn't have a monarchy, and where the 'leaders' do not have their hands stained and has no system where children live in poverty?
In no way am I excusing the royals -just point me in the direction of this eutopia where such a perfect world exists.

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[lainey]

You might value crumbs from the royal table. I don't.
That scum are the top symbol for a system that has kept kids like those in Salford in poverty for generations.

Should have shot the bastard not shook his blood stained hands.
The blood of children and animals.

Licking up to them just 'cos it might raise a few quid.

Fucking no hope for this country still if even Morrissey's people are prepared to play this game.

Shame on you.

I agree with you.

I'm all for the brilliant work of The Salford Lads Club and would gladly support or sponser them as I assume would a large percentage of this forum.

I will never bow down to any royal. I understand they must feel it was a great opportunity in promoting their good work but it's not an honour to have them on your doorstep.

[lainey]

Oh God. Time to go.

No, your opinion is valid, as is everyones.

[dunya]

The visit gets publicity for the cause, but it does so by accepting as good the social inequity (which royalty personifies) that makes the Club necessary in the first place.

JJ felt the ends justified the means.
But why didn't they ask JJ do be the Honoured Guest. He's surely done a lot more than Mr Windsor for the local lads and lasses, and on a lesser salary I bet.


Personally, I would have made my excuses.

[Bluebirds]

You might value crumbs from the royal table. I don't.
That scum are the top symbol for a system that has kept kids like those in Salford in poverty for generations.

Should have shot the bastard not shook his blood stained hands.
The blood of children and animals.

Licking up to them just 'cos it might raise a few quid.

Fucking no hope for this country still if even Morrissey's people are prepared to play this game.

Shame on you.

I wholeheartedly endorse this point of view

I once had to serve Princess Horseface (Anne) a non-alcoholic cocktail at a Royal Visit gathering. Common protocol is that "one should bow" in the presence of Royalty. I didn't. I was only 14. I got a right bollocking later. In my defence I said I don't believe in the concept of monarchy, its an anachronism and ensures our country remains preoccupied with class distinctions that pervades our society to this day.
Funny how kids are usually right.

However the Salford Lads (and Girls) Club as has been remarked upon prior in this thread does do a lot of good work so all publicity is good publicity I guess. Eve if it does come from Nazi scum

[Bluebirds]

Oh but Diana did a lot of good work for charity..... NO THE BEST CAREER MOVE SHE MADE WAS THAT FUCKING CAR CRASH

I'll get my coat

[Bluebirds]

Nope, that was the salary when I left:guitar:
They wanted quality at the interview...... they got it...and paid the going rate:thumb:



In isolation you make good points.
But please tell me in which country I could move too that doesn't have a monarchy, and where the 'leaders' do not have their hands stained and has no system where children live in poverty?
In no way am I excusing the royals -just point me in the direction of this eutopia where such a perfect world exists.

Jukebox Jury

Rockall

Rockall is an extremely small, uninhabited, remote rocky islet in the north Atlantic Ocean. It gives its name to one of the sea areas named in the shipping forecast, provided by the British Meteorological Office and Met Éireann. Historically the islet has been referenced to in Irish folklore, and since the late 16th century has been noted in written record, although it is likely that some northern Atlantic fishing crews knew of the rock before historical accounts. In the 20th century the location became a major concern due to oil and fishing rights, spurring continued debate amongst several European nations. It has also been a point of interest for adventurers and amateur radio broadcasters, although fewer than 20 individuals have ever been confirmed to have landed on Rockall. In 1956 the British scientist James Fisher referred to the island as, "the most isolated small rock in the oceans of the world." [2] The neighboring Hasselwood Rock and several other pinnacles of the surrounding Helen's Reef are however smaller, at half or less the size of Rockall and equally remote. Yet these formations are, while being noted in the Island of Rockall Act in 1972, technically not considered islands or points on land per se, as they are often submerged completely, only revealed momentarily under certain types of swell and visible by breakers.

The ownership of Rockall is disputed, as are the exploration and fishing rights on the surrounding Rockall Bank and Trough, and the Rockall Plateau. Exchanges continue between the aforementioned countries involved: Ireland, Denmark (for the Faroe Islands), the United Kingdom and Iceland. Iceland, Ireland and the United Kingdom have all made submissions to the commission set up under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. Denmark will make a submission before 2014, delaying a resolution until then.

Ok the Queen signed off the Act

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

IMHO British monachy has been improved in last 50 years, at least they pay income tax.

IHMO & others:

I've been dreaming of a time when
The English are sick to death of Labour, And Tories
And spit upon the name Oliver Cromwell
And denounce this royal line that still salute him,
And will salute him forever.

furthermore, if there is to continue to be an British monarchy it should not only pay taxes but also should of the
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/gulrober/her/symbols/2ms.png
House of Stuart :bow:
one of them and only one of them can be the rightful monarchs of Great Britain :love:
boy, would my dearly departed grandfather be proud to read what I just wrote above :)

[Bluebirds]

IHMO & others:

I've been dreaming of a time when
The English are sick to death of Labour, And Tories
And spit upon the name Oliver Cromwell
And denounce this royal line that still salute him,
And will salute him forever.

furthermore, if there is to continue to be an British monarchy it should not only pay taxes but also should of the
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/gulrober/her/symbols/2ms.png
House of Stuart :bow:
one of them and only one of them can be the rightful monarchs of Great Britain :love:
boy, would my dearly departed grandfather be proud to read what I just wrote above :)

An interesting point of view, THe French had the right idea though

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

An interesting point of view, THe French had the right idea though

agreed, July 14th is one of the most important days of the year for me and always will be :blushing:

[Dave2006]

An interesting point of view, THe French had the right idea though

Agreed.
And the Russians.

Dave

[Robert Tressell]

:mock:

Just keep on ranting, your debating skill is hilarious!

シンガポールです。中心部。マーライオン像があるあたりを狙って撮りました。シンガポール在住の方がいたら 確認してください！

[Jukebox Jury]

シンガポールです。中心部。マーライオン像があるあたりを狙って撮りました。シンガポール在住の方がいたら 確認してください！

Which means?:confused:

Jukebox Jury

[Kewpie]

シンガポールです。中心部。マーライオン像があるあたりを狙って撮りました。シンガポール在住の方がいたら 確認してください！

It says:

It's in central Singapore, I tried to take a picture of Merlion. Please check it if you know someone who lives in Singapore.

It's an UTTER COMPLETE RUBBISH PISS TAKING attempt.

RT is another troll, all of us should ignore him.

[lainey]

It says:

It's Singapore, I tried to take a picture of Merlion. Please check it if there's a person in Singapore.

It's an UTTER COMPLETE RUBBISH PISS TAKING attempt.

All of us should ignore RT.

:confused: why?

[vaca peluda]

Royality are utter scum and bring fuck all to the table.

[dizzywhore_1804]

Royality are utter scum and bring fuck all to the table.

I agree. When I had them over for a BBQ all they had to bring was a dessert. They bought it from Iceland. BOUGHT IT!!

[Robert Tressell]

it says:

it's singapore, i tried to take a picture of merlion. Please check it if there's a person in singapore.

It's an utter complete rubbish piss taking attempt.

Rt is another troll, all of us should ignore him.

シンガポールです。中心部。マーライオン像があるあたりを狙って撮りました。シンガポール在住の方がいたら 確認してください！

[celibate]

Shame his 2 sons weren't there, they are at a good age to hear other
music than the 10 BP a drink clubs they come, surrounded by sunglassed
men with earplugs,they almost look like MADAME T puppets

I bet the younger Prince, Harry has made lots into nervous breakdowns

Indeed a shame the publisher of Morrissey's and Smiths places in Manchester
wasn't alowed to hand his his Manchester and London copy

NO manchester tv station braodcast, allready put on youtube?

[Jukebox Jury]

Indeed a shame the publisher of Morrissey's and Smiths places in Manchester
wasn't alowed to hand his his Manchester and London copy


I wasn't bothered about that - I was more disappointed that the young people I am currently working with - 5 minutes walk from the Lads Club - didn't get the opportunity to meet him (if they wanted to, of course).
Still, a lot of other youth groups could equally have said the same.

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[esteban]

:mock:

Just keep on ranting, your debating skill is hilarious!

But he is right...

[Kewpie]

But he is right...

:rolleyes:

The country won't be able to abolish the Monarchy, why do you waste your time and energy to swear at them?


I detest MacArthur and GHQ who allowed to keep Japanese Monarchy.
The country missed the opportunity to disband the dispicable system.
However, I don't waste my time and energy to rant about them.

[Robert Tressell]

:rolleyes:

The country won't be able to abolish the Monachy, why do you waste your time and energy to swear at them?


I detest McArthur and GHQ who allowed to keep Japanese Monachy.
The country missed the opportunity to disband the dispicable system.
However, I don't waste my time and energy to rant about them.

Thank god some people do 'rant' about the evils in our society or nothing would ever change.
Would you say the same to those who 'rant' about child exploitation, racism, domestic violence, animal cruelty, poverty, hunger... etc etc?

What you offensively describe as a rant is in fact the expression of a strongly held opinion on an important subject. And society is changed by those who express such opinion, not people such as yourself who prefer to accept things as they are whilst condeming those who wish to improve society.


Ranters of the world unite and take over!

Now back to 土曜日はお掃除。

[anon x]

And spit upon the name Oliver Cromwell
And denounce this royal line that still salute him,
And will salute him forever.[/I]



Didn't Cromwell kill a king?
:confused:

[Jukebox Jury]

Didn't Cromwell kill a king?
:confused:

He executed King Charles I in 1649.

Jukebox Jury

[anon x]

He executed King Charles I in 1649.

Jukebox Jury

...so,why do the "royal line salute him' ? :confused:

[Bluebirds]

However, I don't waste my time and energy to rant about them.

:lbf::lbf::lbf::lbf::lbf:

[Kewpie]

...so,why do the "royal line salute him' ? :confused:

You'll find some answers from Oliver Cromwell? ( http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=68048/) posted in 2007.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

I detest McArthur and GHQ who allowed to keep Japanese Monachy.
The country missed the opportunity to disband the dispicable system.
However, I don't waste my time and energy to rant about them.
ahem, its MacArthur and for the record, many, many, many Japanese literally begged and pleaded that your monarchy be kept
Dont put any of that on us Kewpie, even the U.S. government disagreed with his decision at first.
However, now most people in both East and West look to the leaving of the monarchy in Japan as one of those few times we here in the USA chose not to interfere too much in a conquered country's way of life. :straightface:


Didn't Cromwell kill a king?
:confused:
He killed a Stuart king, then after his son, the short lived Stuart "restoration" came
followed by the end to any legal monarchy in GB when the Dutch stadtholder "King Billy" basically conquered your country, much to your everlasting shame :cool:

[esteban]

:rolleyes:

The country won't be able to abolish the Monarchy, why do you waste your time and energy to swear at them?


I detest MacArthur and GHQ who allowed to keep Japanese Monarchy.
The country missed the opportunity to disband the dispicable system.
However, I don't waste my time and energy to rant about them.

Eh? You berk, I was talking about RT's view of you and the English view upon monarchy.

Get a grip.

You detest MacArthur (moral implications withstanding) who brough stability and therefore prosperity to post war Japan?

[esteban]

He killed a Stuart king, then after his son, the short lived Stuart "restoration" came
followed by the end to any legal monarchy in GB when the Dutch stadtholder "King Billy" basically conquered your country, much to your everlasting shame :cool:

Yeah right, Robby rocks...

[dunya]

He killed a Stuart king, then after his son, the short lived Stuart "restoration" came

followed by the end to any legal monarchy in GB when the Dutch stadtholder "King Billy" basically conquered your country, much to your everlasting shame :cool:

Whose shame, Robby, and why do you consider it everlasting??:confused:

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

Whose shame, Robby, and why do you consider it everlasting??:confused:

cuz there is still a monarchy but its not the right one :mad:
look, all this stuff is just stuff
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/gulrober/her/not/gp.jpg
my Gramps taught me, he was descended from a long line of "Jacobites" thats all

[dunya]

cuz there is still a monarchy but its not the right one :mad:
look, all this stuff is just stuff

my Gramps taught me, he was descended from a long line of "Jacobites" thats all

Ah, I see. I was wondering where you drew the history lesson from.
For a moment I thought you were being serious. ;)

[Hellie]

I feel a bit sorry for Chaz...by the time he ascends the thrown he'll be in incontinence pants.:squiffy:

[Jukebox Jury]

I feel a bit sorry for Chaz...by the time he ascends the thrown he'll be in incontinence pants.:squiffy:

A bit like Victoria's eldest son (Edward V11?) who was shagging Lillie Langtree. By the time Queen Victoria died, he had less than ten years left before he too left this mortal coil.

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[M-in-Oz]

I thought the latest plan was to overlook Charles and head straight to William for King. Because he is cute.

[Emotional Guide Dog]

You might value crumbs from the royal table. I don't.
That scum are the top symbol for a system that has kept kids like those in Salford in poverty for generations.

Should have shot the bastard not shook his blood stained hands.
The blood of children and animals.

Licking up to them just 'cos it might raise a few quid.

Fucking no hope for this country still if even Morrissey's people are prepared to play this game.

Shame on you.

What a steaming pile of shit.

By what possible definition could Salford Lads Club be described as 'Morrissey's people'? He never went there as a lad, he had his picture taken in front of it ONCE.

If you think because Morrissey fans just happen to have claimed SLC as their own it means those fans can have a say on what the club does & who they associate with, you can fuck right off.

[Jukebox Jury]

What a steaming pile of shit.

By what possible definition could Salford Lads Club be described as 'Morrissey's people'? He never went there as a lad, he had his picture taken in front of it ONCE.

If you think because Morrissey fans just happen to have claimed SLC as their own it means those fans can have a say on what the club does & who they associate with, you can fuck right off.

:clap::clap:
SLC - opened 1904
The Smiths standing outside - 1986

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[Reelaround]

People who don't like having a manarchy in 2010 should go live in China or Pakistan - go now, see what you get

[Jukebox Jury]

People who don't like having a manarchy in 2010 should go live in China or Pakistan - go now, see what you get

Why China or Pakistan?
Why not Germany? France? USA?

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[Reelaround]

Why China or Pakistan?
Why not Germany? France? USA?

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It's a bit obvious by way of freedom of actions or thought. The latest about the Chinese hacking human rights workers on google says it all. At least in Europe or America there is some kind of freedom for individualistic movement or thought processes. In Islamic stronghold Asian countries such as Pakistan also, there wouldn't even be a choice

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

SLC = Salt Lake City :cool:

[Reelaround]

Mormons are everywhere, but at least you can give them as good as you get by giving them a doorstep rendition of whatsisname singing Crazy Horses before they flee from your doorstep, never to be seen again :lbf:

[Reelaround]

My solution? King Harry - The Royal Reality Show

I'm sure it will come to that, it even came to it a bit earlier, showing his night clubbing escapades and girlfriend dilemma


At least it's innocuous compared to al-Shabab for example



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8057179.stm

[Jukebox Jury]

It's a bit obvious by way of freedom of actions or thought. The latest about the Chinese hacking human rights workers on google says it all. At least in Europe or America there is some kind of freedom for individualistic movement or thought processes. In Islamic stronghold Asian countries such as Pakistan also, there wouldn't even be a choice

How many countries in the world do not have a monarchy?
Yet you choose two countries (one a communist and the other Islamic) to highlight how better Brits are in the UK because we have a monarchy.

Surely your theory only proves that as long as Britain isn't run by communists or Islamic rule, we will be OK by ourselves.

Like I said earlier, the French have managed perfectly without their royals for quite a few years now:guitar:

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[Bluebirds]

Good on Prince Charles for being a jug-eared hypocrite. Prince Of Wales my arse And we've got ENgland in Euro 2012 qualifiers. SHIT

[Robert Tressell]

What a steaming pile of shit.

By what possible definition could Salford Lads Club be described as 'Morrissey's people'? He never went there as a lad, he had his picture taken in front of it ONCE.

If you think because Morrissey fans just happen to have claimed SLC as their own it means those fans can have a say on what the club does & who they associate with, you can fuck right off.

I was talking about the people on here, not at SLC.

The people at SLC complained when the Smiths took that photo, so I would never consider them Morrissey people. I have a different name for them.

[Robert Tressell]

:clap::clap:
SLC - opened 1904
The Smiths standing outside - 1986

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Applauding a mistake. How clever.

[Robert Tressell]

"Outspoken pop icon Morrissey has hit out at Britain's Prince Charles - insisting he would prefer to see a comedian on the throne.

The Prince of Wales is set to succeed his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, to the British throne when she dies.
But the former 'The Smiths' singer is leading a campaign to replace him with veteran British funnyman Ronnie Corbett.

Morrissey says, 'The very idea of Charles being king is laughable. You might as well say Ronnie Corbett will be king one day."

Cut/pasted from some dodgy news site.

[Jukebox Jury]

I was talking about the people on here, not at SLC.

The people at SLC complained when the Smiths took that photo, so I would never consider them Morrissey people. I have a different name for them.

The people who complained at the Lads Club back in 1986 are completely different people to those running the place now (I imagine most of the committee from back then are probably dead now) - get over it and yourself.

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[Dave2006]

Less about what 'we' think about the visit... what do the good folk at SLC think about it?

Take a look at the picture gallery http://salfordladsclub.org.uk/gallery/

Enjoy the descriptions and the images...

I especially like the fourth one - good to see Leslie got dressed up for "charlie visits salford"
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/4330051661_01aba33af7.jpg
and soak up the regal spirit of "local lass"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2686/4330584158_4716266f88.jpg
I wonder if Charlie was taken into the Smiths' room?
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4299354313_c0313012b4.jpg

Dave

[Jukebox Jury]

Less about what 'we' think about the visit... what do the good folk at SLC think about it?

Take a look at the picture gallery http://salfordladsclub.org.uk/gallery/

Enjoy the descriptions and the images...

I especially like the fourth one - good to see Leslie got dressed up for "charlie visits salford"

Dave

Good ol' Leslie:guitar::lbf:
Nice to see the Mayor there, he came to see the project I was involved with in December.
I note to his right, 2 people down, is the Salford Hobbit herself...... wonder if she claimed travel expenses to get there:mad:

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[Dave2006]

Good ol' Leslie:guitar::lbf:
Nice to see the Mayor there, he came to see the project I was involved with in December.
I note to his right, 2 people down, is the Salford Hobbit herself...... wonder if she claimed travel expenses to get there:mad:

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Did you notice that Hazel only had to pay back £225 worth of expenses in the end... all fluff and nonsense!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8493634.stm

Dave

[Jukebox Jury]

Did you notice that Hazel only had to pay back £225 worth of expenses in the end... all fluff and nonsense!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8493634.stm

Dave

Dave
Don't forget she's already paid back £13,000:thumb::lbf:

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[Dave2006]

Dave
Don't forget she's already paid back £13,000:thumb::lbf:

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I've got a soft spot for Hazel, so I might be biased here...

But I think I'm one of the few people in the country that thinks the whole expenses row is a load of old tosh. Individual MPs are being blamed for going along with a system that was set up by Thatcher years ago - she made it clear to MPs that the public would not swallow high profile large pay rises for MPs (even though she thought they deserved it) so she set up a system whereby salaries would be supplements by expense.

It's a completely potty system, but it's what was there. Everyone knew what was happening - MPs, press etc. It wasn't until there was a recession and public expenditure became tight that the press thought they'd make an issue of it. They've taken a holier than thou approach to it which sticks - as Stephen Fry said journalists are some of the worst people around for fiddling their expenses.

If you compare the salaries of other high profile public servants - say local authority Chief Execs - then MPs salaries simply haven't kept pace.

In 1997 an MP would have earned roughly the same as a local authority Chief Exec, if not a little bit more. These days you will struggle to find a CE that earns less than £100,000 yet an MPs basic salary is about £65,000. I've known a few MPs over the years and they work bloody hard for their £65k. A lot harder than a lot of top public servants that earn a lot more than they do. And when you add up the fact that they have to split their lives (and their families) in two by spending half their life in London and half in the constituency... then £65k is a joke.

Why would a good quality lawyer / headteacher / public servant / doctor / entrepreneur etc... give up their current job which is better paid to stand for election, to serve in Parliament, to serve their constituents, to put up with long hours and crappy lives for the sake of £65k?

If we want a system whereby the public are represented by talented and committed people in parliament, then we need to pay for it. Otherwise, we simply attract those who are rich enough to not need the salary (think of half the Tory front bench...) or those that simply don't cut the mustard (insert countless names here...) and parliament spirals into a laughing stock.

There, rant over. I've got an essay to write...

Dave

[Jukebox Jury]

I've got a soft spot for Hazel, so I might be biased here...

But I think I'm one of the few people in the country that thinks the whole expenses row is a load of old tosh. Individual MPs are being blamed for going along with a system that was set up by Thatcher years ago - she made it clear to MPs that the public would not swallow high profile large pay rises for MPs (even though she thought they deserved it) so she set up a system whereby salaries would be supplements by expense.

It's a completely potty system, but it's what was there. Everyone knew what was happening - MPs, press etc. It wasn't until there was a recession and public expenditure became tight that the press thought they'd make an issue of it. They've taken a holier than thou approach to it which sticks - as Stephen Fry said journalists are some of the worst people around for fiddling their expenses.

If you compare the salaries of other high profile public servants - say local authority Chief Execs - then MPs salaries simply haven't kept pace.

In 1997 an MP would have earned roughly the same as a local authority Chief Exec, if not a little bit more. These days you will struggle to find a CE that earns less than £100,000 yet an MPs basic salary is about £65,000. I've known a few MPs over the years and they work bloody hard for their £65k. A lot harder than a lot of top public servants that earn a lot more than they do. And when you add up the fact that they have to split their lives (and their families) in two by spending half their life in London and half in the constituency... then £65k is a joke.

Why would a good quality lawyer / headteacher / public servant / doctor / entrepreneur etc... give up their current job which is better paid to stand for election, to serve in Parliament, to serve their constituents, to put up with long hours and crappy lives for the sake of £65k?

If we want a system whereby the public are represented by talented and committed people in parliament, then we need to pay for it. Otherwise, we simply attract those who are rich enough to not need the salary (think of half the Tory front bench...) or those that simply don't cut the mustard (insert countless names here...) and parliament spirals into a laughing stock.

There, rant over. I've got an essay to write...

Dave

Yes it was the Tory's under Thatch that created the current system and yes compared with Council employees (isn't Bernstein at Manchester on £200k a year plus?) they are not paid comparably.
But....a good minority of them have clearly had their noses in the troughs..... like the married couple pair, with a house in their constituency and one in London and one claiming one was their second home and one the other. This was no error but a deliberate attempt to milk the system (yes, within ''the rules'', but the rules they created).
I agree with you also that since when have journalists been the moral leaders of the nation..... they are the (well, again, a good minority of them) dispicable characters.

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[Bluebirds]

Crikey this thread has it all:

Monarchy, republicanism, MPs expenses, the Japanese system of government, Islam, Communism, William of Orange, the English Civil War, John Terry (oh ahng on)

Great stuff. Just to add yes it was another figment of the media's imagination ref MPs expenses which they've managed to whip up quite expertly.
I mean who hasn't at one time or another embroidered an expenses claim if you are in a position to do so? Admittedly my £15 meal allowance spent on booze is hardly in the same class but....

However that flipping houses malarkey is just plain wrong. And I got a £1500 list from Argos when I had to relocate for a bed and basics like a settee. Not £xxxxx from JOHN LEWIS.

[Dave2006]

Crikey this thread has it all:

Monarchy, republicanism, MPs expenses, the Japanese system of government, Islam, Communism, William of Orange, the English Civil War, John Terry (oh ahng on)

Great stuff. Just to add yes it was another figment of the media's imagination ref MPs expenses which they've managed to whip up quite expertly.
I mean who hasn't at one time or another embroidered an expenses claim if you are in a position to do so? Admittedly my £15 meal allowance spent on booze is hardly in the same class but....

However that flipping houses malarkey is just plain wrong. And I got a £1500 list from Argos when I had to relocate for a bed and basics like a settee. Not £xxxxx from JOHN LEWIS.

Ahhh Remember the 'John Lewis List' http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/mar/13/houseofcommons

Imagine, you are elected as a new MP; you go to HoC on day one, and go home to a travelodge that night, by day three you have found your office, got a pass, dared to go into the debating chamber, and someone from the fees office has given you a list from John Lewis for you to furnish a new house.

That night in your motel you flick through the catalogue... Dining Chairs, check. Carpet, check. Workstation, check. Shredder - GOT TO HAVE A SHREDDER!!!!

Dave

[Emotional Guide Dog]

I was talking about the people on here, not at SLC.

The people at SLC complained when the Smiths took that photo, so I would never consider them Morrissey people. I have a different name for them.

Ah right.

I still stand by the sentiment though. SLC can do what they like really.

And just to be clear, I'm not one of 'Morrissey's People' either. I'm my own person. Everyone else should be too.

[Emotional Guide Dog]

People who don't like having a manarchy in 2010 should go live in China or Pakistan - go now, see what you get

Erm, can I point you in the direction of Saudi Arabia?

They have a monarchy & also happen to be one of the most evil regimes in the world.

[lainey]

My solution? King Harry - The Royal Reality Show

Nostradamus predicted that Harry will succeed both William and Charles to become king.:eek:

[Jukebox Jury]

Nostradamus predicted that Harry will succeed both William and Charles to become king.:eek:

Yes, but he also said that City would win the FA Cup in 2009:lbf:

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[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

Erm, can I point you in the direction of Saudi Arabia?

They have a monarchy & also happen to be one of the most evil regimes in the world.

Saudi Arabia, created by primarily British imperialist interests and thus thwarting Arab unification and the dreams of T.E. Lawrence :(
really, much of "non cold war" history is a result of this crime :cool:
which has then only been further perpetuated by the USA as we took over "British interests around the world"
people here in America and many in the UK, always seem to forget that Osama and many other Arab extremists only target us because we perpetuate Saudi and lesser Arab tyrants
when I look back on my time in the Gulf in 90 and 91, seeing how truly despicable the Saudi government was and cowardly their soldiers were
really, we should have liberated not just Iraq, but the majority of people in Arabia as well!


ps: another likely outcome of a united Arab state would have been the much reduced likeliehood of the Arab-Israeli conflict, since Arab unity would have been a fact rather than something so close associated with a unity in hatred
which is the poorest of substitutes for actual the security they so desperately desire, still
once again, thx British, then us Americans :cool:

[lainey]

which quatrain was that, Lainey? lol or maybe you are serious. :guitar:

I read about this years ago. I don't what you mean by quatrain but either way I couldn't give a rat's arse about the royals

[Jukebox Jury]

I read about this years ago. I don't what you mean by quatrain but either way I couldn't give a rat's arse about the royals

What about Joe Royle? Or Jim Royle?:thumb:

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[lainey]

What about Joe Royle? Or Jim Royle?:thumb:

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very good JJ.
I didn't like the Christmas special, the show is nothing now Nan has gone.
The characters are stuck at been unintelligent, not a good sterotype for the working classes. I assumed they were been homophobic in the special because there was a storyline about Anthony or a mate however it seems they were just been homophobic because that's how we are or how they think we are.:rolleyes:

[I am a Ghost]

TV star Ricky Tomlinson may stand as MP in protest 6/02/2010

Royle Family star Ricky Tomlinson is considering standing in the General Election as a protest.

Ricky, 70 - famous for his "my a***" catchphrase as TV's Jim Royle - would fight Labour candidate Luciana Berger, 28.

He is unhappy that the Londoner has been "parachuted" into the Liverpool Wavertree constituency.

Ms Berger even admitted she had never heard of legendary Liverpool football manager Bill Shankly. If selected, Ricky would stand for the left-wing Socialist Labour Party.

[All Over Battersea]

I read about this years ago. I don't what you mean by quatrain but either way I couldn't give a rat's arse about the royals

I'm involved with a community radio station in Crewe, and amongst the guidelines we've had from OFCOM are some instructions about what to do if her majesty should pass away whilst we're on air. We're told that we would need to be suitably solemn and reverential, and that no 'inappropriate' music should be played.

I have of course said that TQID is the only track that we should play in those circumstances, but our programming manager isn't having it!

[Bluebirds]

[QUOTE=All Over Battersea;1300688]I'm involved with a community radio station in Crewe, and amongst the guidelines we've had from OFCOM are some instructions about what to do if her majesty should pass away whilst we're on air. [QUOTE]

If you thought Princess Di's death was a bit OTT I think the country will probaly come to a standstill for a month as Lizzie is one of the UK's longest "serving" monarchs. Still a week of national mourning sounds like a plan....she's still going strong though. You never hear that she's been ill even I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW HER PRIVILEGED LIFESTYLE IS THE SOURCE OF SUCH GOOD HEALTH

[lainey]

TV star Ricky Tomlinson may stand as MP in protest 6/02/2010

Royle Family star Ricky Tomlinson is considering standing in the General Election as a protest.

Ricky, 70 - famous for his "my a***" catchphrase as TV's Jim Royle - would fight Labour candidate Luciana Berger, 28.

He is unhappy that the Londoner has been "parachuted" into the Liverpool Wavertree constituency.

Ms Berger even admitted she had never heard of legendary Liverpool football manager Bill Shankly. If selected, Ricky would stand for the left-wing Socialist Labour Party.

He's a good man....a trade union man :thumb:

[Hellie]

He's a good man....a trade union man :thumb:

Got dodgy taste in frozen food though.:eek: Farm Foods...my arse.:lbf:

[ADAMJOHNSON]

He's a good man....a trade union man :thumb:
yep hes good mates with my dad he came to his 60th last year.i got told off for being drunk and saying "its our ricky the racist,grassing up his pal dessie warren" i think ricky was gonna cane me, but it didnt happen fortunately!

Oh my god ive just realized. I had a bet years ago with my old fellow that the socialist party would never get a seat in the house of commons.........is he really running? personally i gave up voting for them years ago, probably about the time Sutch hung himself.they were very happy with this as sutch and the beanzie meanzie man were fierce opposition.....

[Emotional Guide Dog]

He's a good man....a trade union man :thumb:

That's hardly a recommendation.

That said, back when I lived in Chesterfield, Labour did the same thing when Tony Benn retired; got someone from nowhere near. I'm no fan of the Lib Dems either but I was cheering as loudly as anyone when Paul Holmes handed Labour's arse to them.

And when George Galloway got in in London come to think of it.

[murder and desire]

That's hardly a recommendation.

That said, back when I lived in Chesterfield, Labour did the same thing when Tony Benn retired; got someone from nowhere near. I'm no fan of the Lib Dems either but I was cheering as loudly as anyone when Paul Holmes handed Labour's arse to them.

And when George Galloway got in in London come to think of it.

It would be nice of Morrissey did a gig for the lads club.
I think charles would be aware of Moz, Diana once asked for a signed photo, Morrissey didn't send one