The Moz/Smiths Top 100 - FINAL RESULTS 2010

[Houdini]

In 2007 we have been rating and assessing every 234 then released Morrissey and Smiths-songs from Hand In Glove (april 1983) to That's How People Grow Up (February 2008).
Over the last couple of months I've also set up polls for every song released since.

There were a little over 35,000 votes!
Thanks all for voting and commenting in the polls!

As all the old polls have remained open, there are some minor changes in the Top 100, as well as 2 new entries from the 2008/2009 period.

So here are the final results in brackets previous position (2008) (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=83646) :

(1) 1 There Is A Light That Never Goes Out (1986), average rating: 9,87

(4) 2 I Know It’s Over (1986) 9,57
(3) 3 Still Ill (1984) 9,56
(2) 4 Everyday Is Like Sunday (1988) 9,53
(8) 5 Speedway (1994) 9,53
(7) 6 Now My Heart Is Full (1994) 9,52
(5) 7 Suedehead (1988) 9,52
(10) 8 Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want (1984) 9,52
(9) 9 This Charming Man (1983) 9,50
(6) 10 The Queen Is Dead (1986) 9,50

(11) 11 The Headmaster Ritual (1985) 9,47
(12) 12 The Last Of The Famous International Playboys (1989) 9,44
(18) 13 Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me (1987) 9,42
(14) 14 Why Don’t You Find Out For Yourself (1994) 9,41
(16) 15 Reel Around The Fountain (1984) 9,41
(15) 16 Panic (1985) 9,40
(19) 17 The Boy With The Thorn In His Side (1985) 9,40
(13) 18 Rubber Ring (1985) 9,39
(20) 19 That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore (1985) 9,36
(17) 20 Stop Me If You Think You’ve Heard This One Before (1987) 9,35
(22) 21 Bigmouth Strikes Again (1986) 9,34
(25) 22 How Soon Is Now? (1984) 9,32
(23) 23 Well I Wonder (1985) 9,31
(21) 24 Hand In Glove (1983) 9,30
(24) 25 Shoplifters Of The World Unite (1987) 9,28
(26) 26 Jack The Ripper (1992) 9.28
(28) 27 Cemetry Gates (1986) 9,27
(29) 28 William It Was Really Nothing (1984) 9,26
(27) 29 Late Night, Maudlin Street (1988) 9,19
(31) 30 Half A Person (1987) 9,15
(33) 31 Asleep (1985) 9,14
(35) 32 The National Front Disco (1992) 9,14
(32) 33 Hairdresser On Fire (1988) 9,13
(30) 34 Trouble Loves Me (1997) 9,12
(34) 35 Seasick, Yet Still Docked (1992) 9,11
(36) 36 November Spawned A Monster (1990) 9,11
(37) 37 Will Never Marry (1988) 9,05
(40) 38 First Of The Gang To Die (2004) 9,02
(38) 39 I Want The One I Can’t Have (1985) 9,01
(42) 40 Irish Blood, English Heart (2004) 9.01
(47) 41 Sister I’m A Poet (1988) 8,97
(39) 42 Nobody Loves Us (1995) 8,96
(43) 43 I’ve Changed My Plea To Guilty (1991) 8,95
(44) 44 A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours (1987) 8,95
(50) 45 Life Is A Pigsty (2006) 8,95
(41) 46 The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get (1994) 8,95
(49) 47 Nowhere Fast (1985) 8,93
(46) 48 Handsome Devil (1983) 8,92
(55) 49 Stretch Out And Wait (1985) 8,89
(53) 50 Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now (1984) 8,89

[Houdini]

(45) 51 What Difference Does It Make? (1984), average rating: 8,89
(52) 52 Sweet And Tender Hooligan (1987) 8,89
(51) 53 Tomorrow (1992) 8,88
(48) 54 Girlfriend In A Coma (1987) 8,85
(54) 55 Piccadilly Palare (1990) 8,84
(56) 56 Paint A Vulgar Picture (1987) 8,84
(57) 57 Disappointed (1988) 8,79
(58) 58 You Just Haven’t Earned It Yet Baby (1987) 8,76
(59) 59 Rusholme Ruffians (1985) 8,74
(60) 60 I Won’t Share You (1987) 8,73
(62) 61 Girl Afraid (1984) 8,71
(61) 62 Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others (1986) 8,67
(63) 63 You’re Gonna Need Someone On Your Side (1992) 8,65
(64) 64 Frankly Mr Shankly (1986) 8,65
(67) 65 Suffer Little Children (1984) 8,63
(73) 66 Let Me Kiss You (2004) 8,63
(65) 67 Sheila Take A Bow (1987) 8,60
(66) 68 I Know It’s Gonna Happen Someday (1992) 8,60
(70) 69 What She Said (1985) 8,60
(69) 70 Is It Really So Strange? (1987) 8,59
(78) 71 Ask (1986) 8,54
(68) 72 This Night Has Opened My Eyes (1984) 8,54
(72) 73 I Started Something I Couldn’t Finish (1987) 8,54
(74) 74 Back To The Old House (1984) 8,53
(--) 75 My Dearest Love (2008) 8,52
(80) 76 The Never Played Symphonies (2004) 8,51
(76) 77 The Hand That Rocks The Cradle (1984) 8,51
(79) 78 I Have Forgiven Jesus (2004) 8,50
(71) 79 Spring-Heeled Jim (1994) 8,50
(77) 80 These Things Take Time (1984) 8,49
(91) 81 My Love Life (1991) 8,48
(81) 82 Pretty Girls Make Graves (1984) 8,47
(84) 83 Sunny (1995) 8,47
(75) 84 Unlovable (1986) 8,46
(89) 85 Jeane (1983) 8,45
(85) 86 Hold On To Your Friends (1994) 8,45
(87) 87 Alsatian Cousin (1988) 8,43
(82) 88 We’ll Let You Know (1992) 8,43
(83) 89 Southpaw (1995) 8,42
(93) 90 Barbarism Begins At Home (1985) 8,41
(95) 91 Lost (1997) 8,40
(101) 92 Interesting Drug (1989) 8,40
(92) 93 London (1987) 8,40
(100) 94 Come Back To Camden (2004) 8,38
(90) 95 Such A Little Thing Makes Such A Big Difference (1989) 8,37
(--) 96 It's Not Your Birthday Anymore (2009) 8,36
(86) 97 You’ve Got Everything Now (1984) 8,35
(88) 98 Friday Mourning (2004) 8,35
(98) 99 Maladjusted (1997) 8,34
(102) 100 Shakespeare’s Sister (1985) 8,34

[Houdini]

The ones who didn't make it, positions 101-150, in brackets previous position (2008) (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=83646):

(94) 101 I Know Very Well How I Got My Name (1988), average rating: 8,33
(97) 102 I’d Love To (1994) 8,32
(99) 103 Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning (1994) 8,29
(96) 104 I Am Hated For Loving (1994) 8,29
(104) 105 Angel, Angel, Down We Go Together (1988) 8,27
(108) 106 No One Can Hold A Candle To You (2004) 8,27
(109) 107 The Loop (1991) 8,27
(103) 108 Whatever Happens, I Love You (1995) 8,25
(110) 109 You Have Killed Me (2006) 8,23
(105) 110 Never Had No One Ever (1986) 8,21
(111) 111 Reader Meet Author (1995) 8,20
(---) 112 Something Is Squeezing My Skull (2009) 8,20
(106) 113 We Hate It When Our Friends Become Succesful (1992) 8,18
(112) 114 The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores (2004) 8,18
(122) 115 Meat Is Murder (1985) 8,14
(107) 116 Boxers (1995) 8,13
(---) 117 I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris (2009) 8,06
(116) 118 Wonderful Woman (1983) 8,04
(113) 119 I Don’t Owe You Anything (1984) 8,03
(114) 120 Vicar In A Tutu (1986) 8,03
(121) 121 Sing Your Life (1991) 8,03
(119) 122 Lucky Lisp (1989) 8,03
(115) 123 I Don’t Mind If You Forget Me (1988) 8,02
(118) 124 Death Of A Disco Dancer (1987) 8,02
(127) 125 I Can Have Both (1997) 8,01
(117) 126 Glamorous Glue (1992) 8,01
(125) 127 Ganglord (2006) 8,01
(123) 128 The Boy Racer (1995) 7,99
(124) 129 All You Need Is Me (2008) 7,98
(130) 130 I’m Not Sorry (2004) 7,95
(120) 131 You Know I Couldn’t Last (2004) 7,95
(126) 132 Alma Matters (1997) 7,94
(135) 133 The Edges Are No Longer Parallel (1997) 7,90
(---) 134 When Last I Spoke To Carol (2009) 7,90
(129) 135 Satan Rejected My Soul (1997) 7,89
(134) 136 There’s A Place In Hell For Me And My Friends (1991) 7,88
(132) 137 I Like You (2004) 7,88
(136) 138 Girl Least Likely To (1990) 7,86
(133) 139 Used To Be A Sweet Boy (1994) 7,85
(128) 140 Yes, I Am Blind (1989) 7,82
(---) 141 You Should Have been Nice To Me (2009) 7,81
(---) 142 Honey, You Know Where To Find Me (2009) 7,80
(131) 143 Certain People I Know (1992) 7,79
(---) 144 I'm OK By Myself (2009) 7,79
(146) 145 Mute Witness (1991) 7,77
(153) 146 I’ll Never Be Anybody’s Hero Now (2006) 7,76
(137) 147 Miserable Lie (1984) 7,75
(139) 148 It’s Hard To Walk Tall When You’re Small (2004) 7,74
(138) 149 The Lazy Sunbathers (1994) 7,73
(141) 150 Ouija Board, Ouija Board (1989) 7,72

[Houdini]

Positions 151-200, in brackets previous position (2008):

(142) 151 Our Frank (1991), average rating: 7,72
(154) 152 Unhappy Birthday (1987) 7,69
(150) 153 A Swallow On My Neck (1995) 7,68
(140) 154 I’m the End Of The Family Line (1991) 7,67
(---) 155 Shame Is The Name (2009) 7,67
(149) 156 In The Future When All’s Well (2006) 7,67
(144) 157 Little Man, What Now? (1988) 7,66
(151) 158 The Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils (1995) 7,65
(152) 159 I Will See You In Far Off Places (2006) 7,65
(148) 160 Driving Your Girlfriend Home (1991) 7,63
(143) 161 Billy Budd (1994) 7,62
(147) 162 Dear God, Please Help Me (2006) 7,61
(157) 163 If You Don’t Like Me, Don’t Look At Me (2006) 7,60
(145) 164 You Must Please Remember (1995) 7,59
(156) 165 Oscillate Wildly (1985) 7,58
(160) 166 My Life Is A Succession Of People Saying Goodbye (2004) 7,55
(155) 167 Break Up The Family (1988) 7,55
(159) 168 Accept Yourself (1983) 7,54
(158) 169 He Knows I’d Love To See Him (1990) 7,51
(---) 170 I'm Playing Easy To Get (unreleased) 7,46
(161) 171 To Me You Are A Work Of Art (2006) 7,45
(---) 172 Striptease With A Difference (unreleased) 7,44
(162) 173 The Ordinary Boys (1988) 7,42
(163) 174 You’re The One For Me Fatty (1992) 7,42
(---) 175 Mama Lay Softly On The Riverbed (2009) 7,41
(---) 176 Lifeguard On Duty (unreleased) 7,40
(167) 177 I Knew I Was Next (2006) 7,40
(168) 178 Pregnant For The Last Time (1991) 7,39
(164) 179 Have-A-Go Merchant (1995) 7,39
(172) 180 Good Looking Man About Town (2006) 7,39
(171) 181 Wide To Receive (1997) 7,38
(183) 182 Interlude (1994) 7,35
(180) 183 I Keep Mine Hidden (1987) 7,35
(166) 184 Munich Air Disaster 1958 (2004) 7,33
(173) 185 King Leer (1991) 7,32
(179) 186 Let The Right One Slip In (1992) 7,32
(177) 187 Skin Storm (1991) 7,31
(176) 188 Do Your Best and Don’t Worry (1995) 7,31
(175) 189 The Youngest Was The Most Loved (2006) 7,31
(174) 190 How Can Anybody Possibly Know How I Feel? (2004) 7,31
(170) 191 The Operation (1995) 7,29
(---) 192 Black Cloud (2009) 7,28
(---) 193 One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell (2009) 7,27
(181) 194 Teenage Dad On His Estate (2004) 7,27
(182) 195 Human Being (2006) 7,27
(---) 196 Please Help The Cause Against Loneliness (unreleased) 7.25
(189) 197 Bengali In Platforms (1988) 7,25
(185) 198 Michael’s Bones (1989) 7,23
(165) 199 That’s How People Grow Up (2008) 7,20
(---) 200 Happy Lovers United (unreleased) 7,19

[Houdini]

Positions 201-259, in brackets previous position (2008):

(169) 201 Oh Well I’ll Never Learn (1988), average score: 7,17
(178) 202 A Song From Under The Floorboards (2006) 7,16
(186) 203 I Am Two People (2004) 7,15
(188) 204 Don’t Make Fun Of Daddy’s Voice (2004) 7,15
(184) 205 That’s Entertainment (1991) 7,14
(187) 206 I Just Want To See The Boy Happy (2006) 7,10
(---) 207 Born To Hang (unreleased) 7,07
(191) 208 Now I Am A Was (1997) 7,06
(194) 209 Heir Apparent (1997) 7,03
(193) 210 Pashernate Love (1991) 7,01
(192) 211 On The Streets I Ran (2006) 6,99
(201) 212 The Public Image (2004) 6,89
(190) 213 This Is Not Your Country (1997) 6,88
(197) 214 Christian Dior (2006) 6,87
(196) 215 Dial-A-Cliché (1988) 6,85
(195) 216 Redondo Beach (2005) 6,85
(198) 217 Roy’s Keen (1997) 6,84
(---) 218 Fantastic Bird (2009) 6,83
(199) 219 At Amber (1990) 6,81
(---) 220 Children In Pieces (2008) 6,80
(200) 221 Dagenham Dave (1995) 6,80
(205) 222 At Last I Am Born (2006) 6,71
(204) 223 Moonriver (1994) 6,70
(202) 224 Ammunition (1997) 6,69
(206) 225 Margaret On The Guillotine (1988) 6,69
(---) 226 Drive-In Saturday (2008) 6,66
(---) 227 You Were Good In Your Time (2009) 6,66
(203) 228 The Draize Train (1986) 6,65
(207) 229 Mexico (2004) 6,64
(212) 230 East West (1989) 6,62
(211) 231 The Father Who Must Be Killed (2006) 6,61
(209) 232 Best Friend On The Payroll (1995) 6,60
(---) 233 Because Of My Poor Education (2009) 6,56
(208) 234 Cosmic Dancer (1991) 6,54
(215) 235 Death At One’s Elbow (1987) 6,53
(210) 236 Black Eyed Susan (1995) 6,52
(214) 237 America Is Not The World (2004) 6,50
(216) 238 Money Changes Everything (1986) 6,49
(---) 239 Oh Phoney (unreleased) 6,46
(213) 240 Work Is A Four Letter Word (1987) 6,41
(220) 241 He Cried (1997) 6,38
(219) 242 Asian Rut (1991) 6,33
(217) 243 Ambitious Outsiders (1997) 6,30
(218) 244 There Speaks A True Friend (1992) 6,26
(---) 245 Sorry Doesn't Help (2009) 6,22
(223) 246 All The Lazy Dykes (2004) 6,15
(221) 247 You’ve Had Her (1992) 6,11
(224) 248 Slum Mums (2004) 6,10
(227) 249 Noise Is The Best Revenge (2005) 6,09
(225) 250 Tony The Pony (1991) 6,08
(222) 251 What’s The World (1987) 6,07
(226) 252 Get Off The Stage (1990) 5,96
(228) 253 Found Found Found (1991) 5,82
(229) 254 The Harsh Truth Of The Camera Eye (1991) 5,77
(230) 255 Sweetie Pie (2006) 5,53
(231) 256 Sorrow Will Come In The End (1997) 5,51
(232) 257 Papa Jack (1997) 5,11
(233) 258 Golden Lights (1986) 4,93
(234) 259 Journalists Who Lie (1991) 4,78

[Dave2006]

With Tony the Pony and Journalists Who Lie so low in the chart - does that make 'Our Frank' Morrissey's worst single :(

ps Thanks for doing all of this Houdini

Dave

[Houdini]

With Tony the Pony and Journalists Who Lie so low in the chart - does that make 'Our Frank' Morrissey's worst single :(

ps Thanks for doing all of this Houdini

Dave

The single with the worst B-sides? Yes.
Worst single? No, not by a long way.
That one is coming up just now...

[dunya]

Thanks very much for all this Houdini. :)

[Orson Swells]

Great work!

Whatever you think of the results the lower 200 or so highlight how strong even Morrissey's weakest output is. Personally, I LOVE: Don’t Make Fun Of Daddy’s Voice, Born To Hang, Now I Am A Was, Heir Apparent, On The Streets I Ran, The Public Image, Christian Dior, Roy’s Keen, Fantastic Bird. At Amber, Dagenham Dave, At Last I Am Born, Ammunition, East West, Best Friend On The Payroll, Because Of My Poor Education, Death At One’s Elbow, Black-Eyed Susan, America Is Not The World, Work Is A Four Letter Word, He Cried, Sorry Doesn't Help,Tony The Pony, Found Found Found, and Sweetie Pie!

[zulu sierra]

Hooray the polls are out bit by bit...Go Houdini Go :thumb:

[dailyalice]

Am I blind? yes, I am blind, no I can't see...the top ten?

[lottie]

Nice to see all my faves WAY down the list..
well I never did follow the crowd. :lbf:

am i also blind, cause i cant see SKULL ??
:(

[dunya]

Skull is 112.

And My Dearest Love the highest-placed of the 2008/9 crop..

[Gregor Samsa]

Great work!

Whatever you think of the results the lower 200 or so highlight how strong even Morrissey's weakest output is. Personally, I LOVE: Don’t Make Fun Of Daddy’s Voice, Born To Hang, Now I Am A Was, Heir Apparent, On The Streets I Ran, The Public Image, Christian Dior, Roy’s Keen, Fantastic Bird. At Amber, Dagenham Dave, At Last I Am Born, Ammunition, East West, Best Friend On The Payroll, Because Of My Poor Education, Death At One’s Elbow, Black-Eyed Susan, America Is Not The World, Work Is A Four Letter Word, He Cried, Sorry Doesn't Help,Tony The Pony, Found Found Found, and Sweetie Pie!

Agree with most of this.

The Top 3 is actually my personal top 3, so to speak. Although I always place Still Ill at number 2.

[lottie]

Skull is 112.

And My Dearest Love the highest-placed of the 2008/9 crop..

Now THAT is good news.
thankyou..
*makes note to read more carefully next time*

[Qvist]

Thank you for all the work this must have cost, the results have been eagerly awaited.

Interesting to see that the highest entry from YOR is no better than 96th. I would have thought it'd do better. Nice to see My Dearest Love getting some recognition, it's a great song.

Of course, like everyone else there's lots of things one could go into, such as the absolute incomprehensibility of Speedway and Suedehead beating all but 3 Smiths songs, but I won't. :)

cheers

[Worm]

Thanks for doing this.

What strikes me about this list, more than anything else, is that you can throw out all but the top 100 and every single one of those hundred is a stone-cold classic. Can't say that about many artists.

[Qvist]

Even the bottom 100 would be a career to be proud of. :)

cheers

[Max Bialy]

It pains me to see the low placings of the wonderful unreleased tracks... but thanks, Houdini!

[MALki_4@hotmail.com]

Well done Houds. I must point out that fantastic bird (218) has been released though. :-)

[Houdini]

Well done Houds. I must point out that fantastic bird (218) has been released though. :-)

Thanks, there was bound to be one mistake...

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

1st of all, I am posting to this thread without reading the whole thing so far, as I often do :o
anyways, thank you for doing this things 234 song poll thingie Houdini :thumb:
I especially admire your follow through and tabulating then ranking the final results here :clap:
honestly, I was quite interested in comparing which songs I play most with how others rank them :straightface:
here's hoping there are more songs for you to poll in the future! :guitar:

[zulu sierra]

Bravo Houdini for a humongous job , well executed....I am now you're number 1 fan ( Misery ? )...Can I ask you to please tabulate the albums , songwriters , decades , singles , B-sides , etc.. like you did back in 2008 , if that's no trouble to you ( of course , after you get a good night's sleep;) )

[Orson Swells]

It pains me to see the low placings of the wonderful unreleased tracks...

Low placings perhaps, but not low ratings.

Everything from no. 210 onwards is rated as over 7. It's tight up there at the top!

Only 8 songs been voted as less than a 6. Amazing really.

[celibate]

found found found in the last 5:tears:

well we voted, I'm not exited with the result, but have to accept
it's poll with lots of people who rate songs higher and lower than me

thanks a lot Houdini, it's dirty job and you did it without interrupting, it
went smoothly,my big aprecaition for how you handled it, maybe a bit
support from Johan, or when you didn't have the time,he went on,just
praise about how you did this enormous poll

and agian, all the best for you and the family, G.

:clap:

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

found found found in the last 5:tears:

Kill Uncle hate can be pretty bad on this site :eek:

[skull]

This list comes to show how boring, conservative and stubborn Smiths fans are...I see so many overrated Smiths songs on the top and so many underrated Morrissey songs that should replace them...but...maybe in the next world.

[Houdini]

Bravo Houdini for a humongous job , well executed....I am now you're number 1 fan ( Misery ? )...Can I ask you to please tabulate the albums , songwriters , decades , singles , B-sides , etc.. like you did back in 2008 , if that's no trouble to you ( of course , after you get a good night's sleep;) )

Thanks, and yes, those lists will be forthcoming.
For starters, here's Years of Refusal's performance in the charts:

Something Is Squeezing My Skull, 8,20
Mama Lay Softly on the Riverbed 7,41
Black Cloud 7,28
I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris 8,06
All You Need Is Me 7,98
When Last I Spoke to Carol 7,90
That's How People Grow Up 7,20
One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell 7,27
It's Not Your Birthday Anymore 8,36
You Were Good in Your Time 6,66
Sorry Doesn't Help 6,22
I'm OK by Myself 7,79

Average song rating: 7,53

Which means it's a tie with Southpaw Grammar:

Morrissey-albums:

1) Vauxhall & I, average score: 8,60
2) Your Arsenal, average score: 8,43
3) Viva Hate, average score: 8,04
4) You Are The Quarry, average score: 7,92
5) Southpaw Grammar, average score: 7,53
6) Years Of Refusal, average score: 7,53
7) Ringleader Of The Tormentors, average score: 7,48
8) Kill Uncle, average score: 7,20
9) Maladjusted, average score: 7,05

[Qvist]

This list comes to show how boring, conservative and stubborn Smiths fans are...I see so many overrated Smiths songs on the top and so many underrated Morrissey songs that should replace them...but...maybe in the next world.

I see the opposite, far too many overrated Morrissey songs. As far as I'm concerned, put a song like "Suedehead" on TQID, and it's downright embarassing. Would you be happy if I repaid the compliment and argued that's because people primarily interested in his solo work are stupid, light-headed and without a sense of perspective? Or do you think perhaps it would be better to assume that it's possible to judge music differently without the neccessity for character flaws?

[Max Bialy]

This list comes to show how boring, conservative and stubborn Smiths fans are...I see so many overrated Smiths songs on the top and so many underrated Morrissey songs that should replace them...but...maybe in the next world.

Ah yes of course, very perceptive. In my ignorance I voted 10s for many Smiths tracks and doled out 5s for several solo efforts... and not because (as I thought prior to being enlightened by you) the Smiths songs are superior in every way, I realize now after your post of clarity it was because I'm so STUBBORN! I need to be more openminded about crappy songs and learn not to be bothered by frivolous things like whether I actually like it or not. Well done, Skullock Holmes. What gave me away?

[zulu sierra]

Thanks, and yes, those lists will be forthcoming.
For starters, here's Years of Refusal's performance in the charts:

Something Is Squeezing My Skull, 8,20
Mama Lay Softly on the Riverbed 7,41
Black Cloud 7,28
I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris 8,06
All You Need Is Me 7,98
When Last I Spoke to Carol 7,90
That's How People Grow Up 7,20
One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell 7,27
It's Not Your Birthday Anymore 8,36
You Were Good in Your Time 6,66
Sorry Doesn't Help 6,22
I'm OK by Myself 7,79

Average song rating: 7,53

Which means it's a tie with Southpaw Grammar:

Morrissey-albums:

1) Vauxhall & I, average score: 8,60
2) Your Arsenal, average score: 8,43
3) Viva Hate, average score: 8,04
4) You Are The Quarry, average score: 7,92
5) Southpaw Grammar, average score: 7,53
6) Years Of Refusal, average score: 7,53
7) Ringleader Of The Tormentors, average score: 7,48
8) Kill Uncle, average score: 7,20
9) Maladjusted, average score: 7,03

Houdini , are the above scores for SG & Maladjusted in their revised formats or their original ? And what about Swords ? Thanks

[Houdini]

Houdini , are the above scores for SG & Maladjusted in their revised formats or their original ? And what about Swords ? Thanks

The original, in both cases. Interesting to see if the revised editions have better average ratings, so here:

Southpaw Grammar (1995):

1) The Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils 7,65
2) Reader Meet Author 8,20
3) The Boy Racer 7,99
4) The Operation 7,29
5) Dagenham Dave 6,80
6) Do Your Best and Don’t Worry 7,31
7) Best Friend On The Payroll 6,60
8) Southpaw 8,42

average score: 7,53

Southpaw Grammar 2009 edition:

1) The Boy Racer 7,99
2) Do Your Best And Don't Worry 7,31
3) Reader Meet Author 8,20
4) Honey, You Know Where To Find Me 7,80
5) Dagenham Dave 6,80
6) Southpaw 8,42
7) Best Friend On The Payroll 6,60
8) Fantastic Bird 6,83
9) The Operation 7,29
10) The Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils 7,65
11) You Should Have Been Nice To Me 7,81
12) Nobody Loves Us 8,96

average score: 7,64

So that's a pretty significant improvement, largely due to the inclusion of Nobody Loves Us, the best rated 1995 song.

[Houdini]

And as for Maladjusted:

Maladjusted (1997):

1) Maladjusted, 8,34
2) Alma Matters, 7,94
3) Ambitious Outsiders 6,30
4) Trouble Loves Me, 9,12
5) Papa Jack, 5,11
6) Ammunition, 6,69
7) Wide To Receive 7,38
8) Roy's Keen, 6,84
9) He Cried, 6,38
10) Sorrow Will Come In The End, 5,51
11) Satan Rejected My Soul, 7,89

average score: 7,05

Maladjusted (2009 edition):

1) Maladjusted, 8,34
2) Ambitious Outsiders, 6,30
3) Trouble Loves Me, 9,12
4) Lost, 8,40
5) He Cried, 6,38
6) Alma Matters, 7,94
7) Heir Apparent, 7,03
8) Ammunition, 6,69
9) The Edges Are No Longer Parallel 7,90
10) This Is Not Your Country 6,88
11) Wide To Receive 7,38
12) I Can Have Both 8,01
13) Now I Am A Was 7,06
14) Satan Rejected My Soul, 7,89
15) Sorrow Will Come In The End, 5,51

average score: 7,39

An even bigger improvement, replacing Papa Jack (5.11) for Lost (8,40) would have improved the original album bij almost 0,5 point already!

[Houdini]

And what about Swords ? Thanks

And here's Swords . It averages at 7.37, which is a little below Years of Refusal (see above):

1) Good Looking Man About Town 7,39
2) Don't Make Fun Of Daddy's Voice 7,15
3) If You Don't Like Me, Don't Look At Me 7,60
4) Ganglord 8,01
5) My Dearest Love 8,52
6) The Never-Played Symphonies 8,51
7) Sweetie Pie 5,53
8) Christian Dior 6,87
9) Shame Is The Name 7,67
10) Munich Air Disaster 1958 7,33
11) I Knew I Was Next 7,40
12) It's Hard To Walk Tall When You're Small 7,44
13) Teenage Dad On His Estate 7,27
14) Children In Pieces 6,80
15) Friday Mourning 8,35
16) My Life Is A Succession Of People Saying Goodbye 7,55
17) Drive-In Saturday 6,66
18) Because Of My Poor Education 6,56

average rating: 7,37

[Qvist]

Now, here's a challenge to anyone who's got time on their hands (and is not a man who slits throats): Sort the solo songs by composer, and rank Boz, Alain & co by the averages they achieve....


cheers

[Houdini]

Now, here's a challenge to anyone who's got time on their hands (and is not a man who slits throats): Sort the solo songs by composer, and rank Boz, Alain & co by the averages they achieve....


cheers

This has already been done, with the results 2 years ago, see here (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=83646&page=5).

Boorer actually beat Whyte by quite a margin, though both lost to Street (and Marr of course). I don't think much will change with the 2008/2009 songs though the highest scoring new song (My Dearest Love) would certainly improve Alain's ratings.

I'll gladly add the 2008/2009-songs later on.

[Houdini]

I did a list by year in the previous thread, you can find all the results from 1983-2006 there (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=83646&page=6).

Here are the 2008 and 2009 lists:

Best of 2008, average song score: 7,43

1. My Dearest Love (2008) 8,52
2. All You Need Is Me (2008) 7,98
3. That’s How People Grow Up (2008) 7,20
4. Children In Pieces (2008) 6,80
5. Drive-In Saturday (2008) 6,66

Best of 2009, average song score: 7,45

1. It's Not Your Birthday Anymore (2009) 8,36
2. Something Is Squeezing My Skull (2009) 8,20
3. I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris (2009) 8,06
4. When Last I Spoke To Carol (2009) 7,90
5. You Should Have been Nice To Me (2009) 7,81
6. Honey, You Know Where To Find Me (2009) 7,80
7. I'm OK By Myself (2009) 7,79
8. Shame Is The Name (2009) 7,67
9. Mama Lay Softly On The Riverbed (2009) 7,41
10. Black Cloud (2009) 7,28
11. One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell (2009) 7,27
12. Fantastic Bird (2009) 6,83
13. You Were Good In Your Time (2009) 6,66
14. Because Of My Poor Education (2009) 6,56
15. Sorry Doesn't Help (2009) 6,22

So better years than 2006, 1997 and 1991, but worse than almost any other year.
Here are the averages for all the years:

1983, average score: 8,62 (6 songs)
1984, average score: 8,76 (17 songs)
1985, average score: 8,86 (16 songs)
1986, average song score: 8,31 (14 songs)
1987, average song score: 8,31 (20 songs)
1988, average song-score: 8,23 (18 songs)
1989, average song score: 7,94 (8 songs)
1990, average song score: 7,68 (6 songs)
1991, average score: 7,19 (20 songs)
1992, average song score: 8,10 (14 songs)
1994, average song rating: 8,34 (14 songs)
1995, average song score: 7,74 (15 songs)
1997, average song rating: 7,21 (18 songs)
2004, average song score: 7,66 (24 songs)
2005, average song score: 6,47 (2 songs)
2006, average song score: 7,35 (20 songs)
2008, average song score: 7,43 (5 songs)
2009, average song score: 7,45 (15 songs)

[Girl-with-the-Thorn]

Nice to see all my faves WAY down the list..
well I never did follow the crowd. :lbf:



Thank you for all the work this must have cost, the results have been eagerly awaited.

Interesting to see that the highest entry from YOR is no better than 96th. I would have thought it'd do better. Nice to see My Dearest Love getting some recognition, it's a great song.

Of course, like everyone else there's lots of things one could go into, such as the absolute incomprehensibility of Speedway and Suedehead beating all but 3 Smiths songs, but I won't. :)

cheers

Yep. 'Suedehead' especially. I mean, it's a good song, but for me it's nothing special. I'm also vaguely saddened at the fact that the YOR songs are so far down the list and that the album as a whole is rated so badly, although I can't say I'm surprised- lovers of the album such as myself seem to be either the minority or not particularly vocal on here. As I said on another thread (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=106725&page=3&highlight=Beethoven), possibly nostalgia or sentimental connections with particular songs or albums has something to do with this... but I digress.

[skull]

Yep. 'Suedehead' especially. I mean, it's a good song, but for me it's nothing special. I'm also vaguely saddened at the fact that the YOR songs are so far down the list and that the album as a whole is rated so badly, although I can't say I'm surprised- lovers of the album such as myself seem to be either the minority or not particularly vocal on here. As I said on another thread (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=106725&page=3&highlight=Beethoven), possibly nostalgia or sentimental connections with particular songs or albums has something to do with this... but I digress.

That's what I think too...

[Qvist]

This has already been done, with the results 2 years ago, see here (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=83646&page=5).

Boorer actually beat Whyte by quite a margin, though both lost to Street (and Marr of course). I don't think much will change with the 2008/2009 songs though the highest scoring new song (My Dearest Love) would certainly improve Alain's ratings.

I'll gladly add the 2008/2009-songs later on.

Oh, I had no idea, thanks! I agree, it seems unlikely that anything much has changed since then.

cheers

[Qvist]

Yep. 'Suedehead' especially. I mean, it's a good song, but for me it's nothing special.....As I said on another thread[/URL], possibly nostalgia or sentimental connections with particular songs or albums has something to do with this... but I digress.

For me, "Suedehead" and for that matter "Everyday is like Sunday" is a case of the opposite of sentimental connection. They both just stopped working for me 15 years ago or so - when I listen to them I can technically tell they're nice pop songs, but they just leave me absolutely cold - they don't give me anything. When I play VH or BD I usually just skip them. They're used up. I don't think I can say that about any other Morrissey songs.

cheers

[Anonymous1]

For me, "Suedehead" and for that matter "Everyday is like Sunday" is a case of the opposite of sentimental connection. They both just stopped working for me 15 years ago or so - when I listen to them I can technically tell they're nice pop songs, but they just leave me absolutely cold - they don't give me anything. When I play VH or BD I usually just skip them. They're used up. I don't think I can say that about any other Morrissey songs.

cheers

Same here. Kinda burned out on those songs a while ago.

That being said, as brilliant as those two songs are, I think they're both grossly overrated. Morrissey's come out with such brilliant solo music over the past 20 years and I find it odd that his first two singles happened to score so high.

[still ill life]

All the lazy dykes in an underrated song of his.

[MORRIZSEY]

Sweetie-Pie? I can't believe this is in the bottom five? I really don't have a common ground.

[MORRIZSEY]

Oh Phoney is also delectable. Are polls worth anything? Really? It's a lot like life.

[Kewpie]

Sweetie-Pie? I can't believe this is in the bottom five? I really don't have a common ground.

I'm unable to rate songs, didn't perticipate the polls.

However, very interesting to read other people's opinions and discussions about them.

[MORRIZSEY]

Hmmmm....

[Maurice E]

For me, "Suedehead" and for that matter "Everyday is like Sunday" is a case of the opposite of sentimental connection. They both just stopped working for me 15 years ago or so - when I listen to them I can technically tell they're nice pop songs, but they just leave me absolutely cold - they don't give me anything. When I play VH or BD I usually just skip them. They're used up. I don't think I can say that about any other Morrissey songs.

cheers

do you play a musical instrument at all?
if you do, play the chords to Suedehead and Everyday is Like Sunday and sing along, and you'll see that they are truly wonderful pieces of music.
then play the chords to Father Must be Killed, Sorry Doesn't Help, How Can Anyone Possibly Know, On the Streets I Ran, or 80% of the post 2000 Moz material and you'll notice they are flimsy, melodically weak pieces of music.
it's obviously possible to be over-exposed to a song, but the sheer musical quality of Suedehead and Everyday, and 92% of all those early Morrissey/Street compositions is absolutely undeniable.

[MORRIZSEY]

Sweetie-Pie is beautiful. Truly beautiful. It makes me want to cry every time I hear it, I just find it hard to see it in the last ten. I think it's a beautiful song.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

I'm unable to rate songs, didn't perticipate the polls.

cuz ur ip is this place, gotcha :cool::eek::p:lbf::o

[Walkers Crisp]

Personally, I love Sweetie-Pie to bits. And I can remember giving it a high vote (9 or 10) - that was quite a while ago. Would the poll be done now Sweetie-Pie would surely rank higher in that list, being an absolute highlight of the SWORDS compilation.

[Qvist]

do you play a musical instrument at all?
if you do, play the chords to Suedehead and Everyday is Like Sunday and sing along, and you'll see that they are truly wonderful pieces of music.
then play the chords to Father Must be Killed, Sorry Doesn't Help, How Can Anyone Possibly Know, On the Streets I Ran, or 80% of the post 2000 Moz material and you'll notice they are flimsy, melodically weak pieces of music.
it's obviously possible to be over-exposed to a song, but the sheer musical quality of Suedehead and Everyday, and 92% of all those early Morrissey/Street compositions is absolutely undeniable.

Yep, piano. Although badly. And I don't have one. And the cornet, but don't even get me started about that. :)

I'm not questioning them on technical grounds, they are obviously well-crafted pop tunes and I completely agree about the flimsy melodical structure of the songs you mention. I simply note that unlike almost all the other songs of that period, who I keep returning to periodically if not constantly, they simply don't retain any power to interest me. Perhaps the problem is that they are rather too picture-perfect? I really don't know, I can only observe the effect.

cheers

[Maurice E]

Yep, piano. Although badly. And I don't have one. And the cornet, but don't even get me started about that. :)

I'm not questioning them on technical grounds, they are obviously well-crafted pop tunes and I completely agree about the flimsy melodical structure of the songs you mention. I simply note that unlike almost all the other songs of that period, who I keep returning to periodically if not constantly, they simply don't retain any power to interest me. Perhaps the problem is that they are rather too picture-perfect? I really don't know, I can only observe the effect.

cheers

fair point - presumably you will have heard them a lot more than the other songs of that era too.
I deliberately ration the amount of times I listen to the best Smiths and Morrissey songs. if I got in a car, now, and heard Everyday or Suedehead on the radio, I'd turn the volume up, sing along, and still consider them to be works of absolute genius...

[Qvist]

An equally fair point. And all the luckier you are because of it, naturally I wish it'd be the same for me.


presumably you will have heard them a lot more than the other songs of that era too.

Actually no, not really. I instantly liked them of course, but my favorites on VH from the beginning were Maudlin Street and Dial-a-cliche. Who still remain my favorites from that album, now that I think of it.

cheers

[skull]

What I don't like is to see awful Smiths songs such as "Panic"!? on top of the list and absolutely amazing songs by Morrissey-solo like "Wide to recieve" near the end...most people vote for the Smiths because of nostalgia always complaining that Morrissey will never be The Smiths, no matter how good his songs will be.

[skull]

What I don't like is to see awful Smiths songs such as "Panic"!? on top of the list and absolutely amazing songs by Morrissey-solo like "Wide to recieve" near the end...most people vote for the Smiths because of nostalgia always complaining that Morrissey will never be The Smiths, no matter how good his songs will be.

Sorry: Wide to receive!

[Kewpie]

Sorry: Wide to receive!

If you click 'edit' on the bottom of your ealier post, you can correct / edit your post.

[Qvist]

What I don't like is to see awful Smiths songs such as "Panic"!? on top of the list and absolutely amazing songs by Morrissey-solo like "Wide to recieve" near the end...most people vote for the Smiths because of nostalgia always complaining that Morrissey will never be The Smiths, no matter how good his songs will be.

Really, how difficult can this be to understand? People give "Panic" a higher vote than "Wide to receive" because they think it's a much better song, not because of nostalgia. If you ask me, "Panic" is an excellent 9 and one of the smiths' better songs, "Wide to receive" is a mediocre 6 and one of Morrissey's weaker songs. We all have songs here we think are overrated, and ones that we think are underrated.

cheers

[Houdini]

Here's the chart per decade.

Best Morrissey/Smiths song of the 1980s:

1) There Is A Light That Never Goes Out (1986), average rating: 9,87
2) I Know It’s Over (1986) 9,57
3) Still Ill (1984) 9,56
4) Everyday Is Like Sunday (1988) 9,53
5) Suedehead (1988) 9,52
6) Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want (1984) 9,52
7) This Charming Man (1983) 9,50
8) The Queen Is Dead (1986) 9,50
9) The Headmaster Ritual (1985) 9,47
10) The Last Of The Famous International Playboys (1989) 9,44
11) Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me (1987) 9,42
12) Reel Around The Fountain (1984) 9,41
13) Panic (1985) 9,40
14) The Boy With The Thorn In His Side (1985) 9,40
15) Rubber Ring (1985) 9,39
16) That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore (1985) 9,36
17) Stop Me If You Think You’ve Heard This One Before (1987) 9,35
18) Bigmouth Strikes Again (1986) 9,34
19) How Soon Is Now? (1984) 9,32
20) Well I Wonder (1985) 9,31
21) Hand In Glove (1983) 9,30
22) Shoplifters Of The World Unite (1987) 9,28
23) Cemetry Gates (1986) 9,27
24) William It Was Really Nothing (1984) 9,26
25) Late Night, Maudlin Street (1988) 9,19
26) Half A Person (1987) 9,15
27) Asleep (1985) 9,14
28) Hairdresser On Fire (1988) 9,13
29) Will Never Marry (1988) 9,05
30) I Want The One I Can’t Have (1985) 9,01
31) Sister I’m A Poet (1988) 8,97
32) A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours (1987) 8,95
33) Nowhere Fast (1985) 8,93
34) Handsome Devil (1983) 8,92
35) Stretch Out And Wait (1985) 8,89
36) Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now (1984) 8,89
37) What Difference Does It Make? (1984) 8,89
38) Sweet And Tender Hooligan (1987) 8,89
39) Girlfriend In A Coma (1987) 8,85
40) Paint A Vulgar Picture (1987) 8,84
41) Disappointed (1988) 8,79
42) You Just Haven’t Earned It Yet Baby (1987) 8,76
43) Rusholme Ruffians (1985) 8,74
44) I Won’t Share You (1987) 8,73
45) Girl Afraid (1984) 8,71
46) Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others (1986) 8,67
47) Frankly Mr Shankly (1986) 8,65
48) Suffer Little Children (1984) 8,63
49) Sheila Take A Bow (1987) 8,60
50) What She Said (1985) 8,60
51) Is It Really So Strange? (1987) 8,59
52) Ask (1986) 8,54
53) This Night Has Opened My Eyes (1984) 8,54
54) I Started Something I Couldn’t Finish (1987) 8,54
55) Back To The Old House (1984) 8,53
56) The Hand That Rocks The Cradle (1984) 8,51
57) These Things Take Time (1984) 8,49
58) Pretty Girls Make Graves (1984) 8,47
59) Unlovable (1986) 8,46
60) Jeane (1983) 8,45
61) Alsatian Cousin (1988) 8,43
62) Barbarism Begins At Home (1985) 8,41
63) Interesting Drug (1989) 8,40
64) London (1987) 8,40
65) Such A Little Thing Makes Such A Big Difference (1989) 8,37
66) You’ve Got Everything Now (1984) 8,35
67) Shakespeare’s Sister (1985) 8,34
68) I Know Very Well How I Got My Name (1988) 8,33
69) Angel, Angel, Down We Go Together (1988) 8,27
70) Never Had No One Ever (1986) 8,21
71) Meat Is Murder (1985) 8,14
72) Wonderful Woman (1983) 8,04
73) I Don’t Owe You Anything (1984) 8,03
74) Vicar In A Tutu (1986) 8,03
75) Lucky Lisp (1989) 8,03
76) I Don’t Mind If You Forget Me (1988) 8,02
77) Death Of A Disco Dancer (1987) 8,02
78) Yes, I Am Blind (1989) 7,82
79) Miserable Lie (1984) 7,75
80) Ouija Board, Ouija Board (1989) 7,72
81) Unhappy Birthday (1987) 7,69
82) Little Man, What Now? (1988) 7,66
83) Oscillate Wildly (1985) 7,58
84) Break Up The Family (1988) 7,55
85) Accept Yourself (1983) 7,54
86) The Ordinary Boys (1988) 7,42
87) I Keep Mine Hidden (1987) 7,35
88) Bengali In Platforms (1988) 7,25
89) Michael’s Bones (1989) 7,23
90) Oh Well I’ll Never Learn (1988) 7,17
91) Dial-A-Cliché (1988) 6,85
92) Margaret On The Guillotine (1988) 6,69
93) The Draize Train (1986) 6,65
94) East West (1989) 6,62
95) Death At One’s Elbow (1987) 6,53
96) Money Changes Everything (1986) 6,49
97) Work Is A Four Letter Word (1987) 6,41
98) What’s The World (1987) 6,07
99) Golden Lights (1986) 4,93

AVERAGE SONG SCORE: 8.45

[Houdini]

Best Morrissey-song of the 1990s:

1) Speedway (1994) 9,53
2) Now My Heart Is Full (1994) 9,52
3) Why Don’t You Find Out For Yourself (1994) 9,41
4) Jack The Ripper (1992) 9.28
5) The National Front Disco (1992) 9,14
6) Trouble Loves Me (1997) 9,12
7) Seasick, Yet Still Docked (1992) 9,11
8) November Spawned A Monster (1990) 9,11
9) Nobody Loves Us (1995) 8,96
10) I’ve Changed My Plea To Guilty (1991) 8,95
11) The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get (1994) 8,95
12) Tomorrow (1992) 8,88
13) Piccadilly Palare (1990) 8,84
14) You’re Gonna Need Someone On Your Side (1992) 8,65
15) I Know It’s Gonna Happen Someday (1992) 8,60
16) Spring-Heeled Jim (1994) 8,50
17) My Love Life (1991) 8,48
18) Sunny (1995) 8,47
19) Hold On To Your Friends (1994) 8,45
20) We’ll Let You Know (1992) 8,43
21) Southpaw (1995) 8,42
22) Lost (1997) 8,40
23) Maladjusted (1997) 8,34
24) I’d Love To (1994) 8,32
25) Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning (1994) 8,29
26) I Am Hated For Loving (1994) 8,29
27) The Loop (1991) 8,27
28) Whatever Happens, I Love You (1995) 8,25
29) Reader Meet Author (1995) 8,20
30) We Hate It When Our Friends Become Succesful (1992) 8,18
31) Boxers (1995) 8,13
32) Sing Your Life (1991) 8,03
33) I Can Have Both (1997) 8,01
34) Glamorous Glue (1992) 8,01
35) The Boy Racer (1995) 7,99
36) Alma Matters (1997) 7,94
37) The Edges Are No Longer Parallel (1997) 7,90
38) Satan Rejected My Soul (1997) 7,89
39) There’s A Place In Hell For Me And My Friends (1991) 7,88
40) Girl Least Likely To (1990) 7,86
41) Used To Be A Sweet Boy (1994) 7,85
42) Certain People I Know (1992) 7,79
43) Mute Witness (1991) 7,77
44) The Lazy Sunbathers (1994) 7,73
45) Our Frank (1991), 7,72
46) A Swallow On My Neck (1995) 7,68
47) I’m the End Of The Family Line (1991) 7,67
48) The Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils (1995) 7,65
49) Driving Your Girlfriend Home (1991) 7,63
50) Billy Budd (1994) 7,62
51) You Must Please Remember (1995) 7,59
52) He Knows I’d Love To See Him (1990) 7,51
53) You’re The One For Me Fatty (1992) 7,42
54) Pregnant For The Last Time (1991) 7,39
55) Have-A-Go Merchant (1995) 7,39
56) Wide To Receive (1997) 7,38
57) Interlude (1994) 7,35
58) King Leer (1991) 7,32
59) Let The Right One Slip In (1992) 7,32
60) Skin Storm (1991) 7,31
61) Do Your Best and Don’t Worry (1995) 7,31
62) The Operation (1995) 7,29
63) That’s Entertainment (1991) 7,14
64) Now I Am A Was (1997) 7,06
65) Heir Apparent (1997) 7,03
66) Pashernate Love (1991) 7,01
67) This Is Not Your Country (1997) 6,88
68) Roy’s Keen (1997) 6,84
69) At Amber (1990) 6,81
70) Dagenham Dave (1995) 6,80
71) Moonriver (1994) 6,70
72) Ammunition (1997) 6,69
73) Best Friend On The Payroll (1995) 6,60
74) Cosmic Dancer (1991) 6,54
75) Black Eyed Susan (1995) 6,52
76) He Cried (1997) 6,38
77) Asian Rut (1991) 6,33
78) Ambitious Outsiders (1997) 6,30
79) There Speaks A True Friend (1992) 6,26
80) You’ve Had Her (1992) 6,11
81) Tony The Pony (1991) 6,08
82) Get Off The Stage (1990) 5,96
83) Found Found Found (1991) 5,82
84) The Harsh Truth Of The Camera Eye (1991) 5,77
85) Sorrow Will Come In The End (1997) 5,51
86) Papa Jack (1997) 5,11
87) Journalists Who Lie (1991) 4,78

AVERAGE SONG SCORE: 7,67

[Houdini]

BEST MORRISSEY-SONG OF THE 2000s:

1) First Of The Gang To Die (2004) 9,02
2) Irish Blood, English Heart (2004) 9.01
3) Life Is A Pigsty (2006) 8,95
4) Let Me Kiss You (2004) 8,63
5) My Dearest Love (2008) 8,52
6) The Never Played Symphonies (2004) 8,51
7) I Have Forgiven Jesus (2004) 8,50
8) Come Back To Camden (2004) 8,38
9) It's Not Your Birthday Anymore (2009) 8,36
10) Friday Mourning (2004) 8,35
11) No One Can Hold A Candle To You (2004) 8,27
12) You Have Killed Me (2006) 8,23
13) Something Is Squeezing My Skull (2009) 8,20
14) The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores (2004) 8,18
15) I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris (2009) 8,06
16) Ganglord (2006) 8,01
17) All You Need Is Me (2008) 7,98
18) I’m Not Sorry (2004) 7,95
19) You Know I Couldn’t Last (2004) 7,95
20) When Last I Spoke To Carol (2009) 7,90
21) I Like You (2004) 7,88
22) You Should Have been Nice To Me (2009) 7,81
23) Honey, You Know Where To Find Me (2009) 7,80
24) I'm OK By Myself (2009) 7,79
25) I’ll Never Be Anybody’s Hero Now (2006) 7,76
26) It’s Hard To Walk Tall When You’re Small (2004) 7,74
27) Shame Is The Name (2009) 7,67
28) In The Future When All’s Well (2006) 7,67
29) I Will See You In Far Off Places (2006) 7,65
30) Dear God, Please Help Me (2006) 7,61
31) If You Don’t Like Me, Don’t Look At Me (2006) 7,60
32) My Life Is A Succession Of People Saying Goodbye (2004) 7,55
33) To Me You Are A Work Of Art (2006) 7,45
34) Mama Lay Softly On The Riverbed (2009) 7,41
35) I Knew I Was Next (2006) 7,40
36) Good Looking Man About Town (2006) 7,39
37) Munich Air Disaster 1958 (2004) 7,33
38) The Youngest Was The Most Loved (2006) 7,31
39) How Can Anybody Possibly Know How I Feel? (2004) 7,31
40) Black Cloud (2009) 7,28
41) One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell (2009) 7,27
42) Teenage Dad On His Estate (2004) 7,27
43) Human Being (2006) 7,27
44) That’s How People Grow Up (2008) 7,20
45) A Song From Under The Floorboards (2006) 7,16
46) I Am Two People (2004) 7,15
47) Don’t Make Fun Of Daddy’s Voice (2004) 7,15
48) I Just Want To See The Boy Happy (2006) 7,10
49) On The Streets I Ran (2006) 6,99
50) The Public Image (2004) 6,89
51) Christian Dior (2006) 6,87
52) Redondo Beach (2005) 6,85
53) Fantastic Bird (2009) 6,83
54) Children In Pieces (2008) 6,80
55) At Last I Am Born (2006) 6,71
56) Drive-In Saturday (2008) 6,66
57) You Were Good In Your Time (2009) 6,66
58) Mexico (2004) 6,64
59) The Father Who Must Be Killed (2006) 6,61
60) Because Of My Poor Education (2009) 6,56
61) America Is Not The World (2004) 6,50
62) Sorry Doesn't Help (2009) 6,22
63) All The Lazy Dykes (2004) 6,15
64) Slum Mums (2004) 6,10
65) Noise Is The Best Revenge (2005) 6,09
66) Sweetie Pie (2006) 5,53

AVERAGE SONG SCORE: 7,47

[Maurice E]

BEST MORRISSEY-SONG OF THE 2000s:

1) First Of The Gang To Die (2004) 9,02
2) Irish Blood, English Heart (2004) 9.01
3) Life Is A Pigsty (2006) 8,95
4) Let Me Kiss You (2004) 8,63
5) My Dearest Love (2008) 8,52
6) The Never Played Symphonies (2004) 8,51
7) I Have Forgiven Jesus (2004) 8,50
8) Come Back To Camden (2004) 8,38
9) It's Not Your Birthday Anymore (2009) 8,36
10) Friday Mourning (2004) 8,35
11) No One Can Hold A Candle To You (2004) 8,27
12) You Have Killed Me (2006) 8,23
13) Something Is Squeezing My Skull (2009) 8,20
14) The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores (2004) 8,18
15) I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris (2009) 8,06
16) Ganglord (2006) 8,01
17) All You Need Is Me (2008) 7,98
18) I’m Not Sorry (2004) 7,95
19) You Know I Couldn’t Last (2004) 7,95
20) When Last I Spoke To Carol (2009) 7,90
21) I Like You (2004) 7,88
22) You Should Have been Nice To Me (2009) 7,81
23) Honey, You Know Where To Find Me (2009) 7,80
24) I'm OK By Myself (2009) 7,79
25) I’ll Never Be Anybody’s Hero Now (2006) 7,76
26) It’s Hard To Walk Tall When You’re Small (2004) 7,74
27) Shame Is The Name (2009) 7,67
28) In The Future When All’s Well (2006) 7,67
29) I Will See You In Far Off Places (2006) 7,65
30) Dear God, Please Help Me (2006) 7,61
31) If You Don’t Like Me, Don’t Look At Me (2006) 7,60
32) My Life Is A Succession Of People Saying Goodbye (2004) 7,55
33) To Me You Are A Work Of Art (2006) 7,45
34) Mama Lay Softly On The Riverbed (2009) 7,41
35) I Knew I Was Next (2006) 7,40
36) Good Looking Man About Town (2006) 7,39
37) Munich Air Disaster 1958 (2004) 7,33
38) The Youngest Was The Most Loved (2006) 7,31
39) How Can Anybody Possibly Know How I Feel? (2004) 7,31
40) Black Cloud (2009) 7,28
41) One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell (2009) 7,27
42) Teenage Dad On His Estate (2004) 7,27
43) Human Being (2006) 7,27
44) That’s How People Grow Up (2008) 7,20
45) A Song From Under The Floorboards (2006) 7,16
46) I Am Two People (2004) 7,15
47) Don’t Make Fun Of Daddy’s Voice (2004) 7,15
48) I Just Want To See The Boy Happy (2006) 7,10
49) On The Streets I Ran (2006) 6,99
50) The Public Image (2004) 6,89
51) Christian Dior (2006) 6,87
52) Redondo Beach (2005) 6,85
53) Fantastic Bird (2009) 6,83
54) Children In Pieces (2008) 6,80
55) At Last I Am Born (2006) 6,71
56) Drive-In Saturday (2008) 6,66
57) You Were Good In Your Time (2009) 6,66
58) Mexico (2004) 6,64
59) The Father Who Must Be Killed (2006) 6,61
60) Because Of My Poor Education (2009) 6,56
61) America Is Not The World (2004) 6,50
62) Sorry Doesn't Help (2009) 6,22
63) All The Lazy Dykes (2004) 6,15
64) Slum Mums (2004) 6,10
65) Noise Is The Best Revenge (2005) 6,09
66) Sweetie Pie (2006) 5,53

AVERAGE SONG SCORE: 7,47

gosh - it's a real inditement on the quality of the 21st century stuff, isn't it? what on earth would Moz make of it all?
out of 66 songs, only four were considered as good as an average Smiths song (8.6/10).

also, just two songs reaching 9/10. there were eight in the 90's and thirty in the 80's (including six from Steven Street).

[Kewpie]

gosh - it's a real inditement on the quality of the 21st century stuff, isn't it? what on earth would Moz make of it all?
out of 66 songs, only four were considered as good as an average Smiths song (8.6/10).

also, just two songs reaching 9/10. there were eight in the 90's and thirty in the 80's (including six from Steven Street).


STEPHEN Street, not Steven.

I bet the majority of the people who took part in the polls like Smiths more than solo stuff.

[skull]

Really, how difficult can this be to understand? People give "Panic" a higher vote than "Wide to receive" because they think it's a much better song, not because of nostalgia. If you ask me, "Panic" is an excellent 9 and one of the smiths' better songs, "Wide to receive" is a mediocre 6 and one of Morrissey's weaker songs. We all have songs here we think are overrated, and ones that we think are underrated.

cheers

Ok, I don't want to offend anyone and I agree with you: I'm sure that many people vote judging quality, or whatever arrives to their ears and hearts, but in my personal opinion, sometimes objectivity fails. I am quite sure that it's more likely for a 20 years old boy today to fall in love with Years of Refusal than any of the songs in The Smiths or Hatful of Hollow...And most Morrissey fans are older than 30 today...so...it could be that sometimes, only sometimes objectivity may fail...Anyway I like the polite way you discuss and I like it. Thank you!

[Qvist]

I am quite sure that it's more likely for a 20 years old boy today to fall in love with Years of Refusal than any of the songs in The Smiths or Hatful of Hollow...And most Morrissey fans are older than 30 today...so...it could be that sometimes, only sometimes objectivity may fail...

Absolutely, we all bring our different circumstances, tastes and preconditions to the experience of the music. Inescapably so. And it's not really any question of objectivity, on the contrary any judgment of taste is neccessarily subjective. But there's a difference between a subjective taste judgement and an inability to judge music openly and fairly because of stubbornness, nostalgia etc etc. Anyway, glad to see that harmony and agreement reigns in the end. :)

cheers

[Houdini]

Best unreleased track:

1) I'm Playing Easy To Get 7,46
2) Striptease With A Difference 7,44
3) Lifeguard On Duty 7,40
4) Please Help The Cause Against Loneliness 7.25
5) Happy Lovers United 7,19
6) Born To Hang 7,07
7) Oh Phoney 6,46

[Orson Swells]

Best unreleased track:

1) I'm Playing Easy To Get 7,46
2) Striptease With A Difference 7,44
3) Lifeguard On Duty 7,40
4) Please Help The Cause Against Loneliness 7.25
5) Happy Lovers United 7,19
6) Born To Hang 7,07
7) Oh Phoney 6,46


Perhaps you should have included Mikey Farrell's re-imagined "Sweetie-Pie" in the poll...

[Houdini]

Best The Smiths-single:

1) This Charming Man 9,50
2) Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me 9,42
3) Panic 9,40
4) The Boy With The Thorn In His Side 9,40
5) That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore 9,36
6) Bigmouth Strikes Again 9,34
7) How Soon Is Now? 9,32
8) Hand In Glove 9,30
9) Shoplifters Of The World Unite 9,28
10) William It Was Really Nothing 9,26
11) Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now 8,89
12) What Difference Does It Make? 8,89
13) Girlfriend In A Coma 8,85
14) Sheila Take A Bow 8,60
15) Ask 8,54
16) I Started Something I Couldn’t Finish 8,54
17) Shakespeare’s Sister 8,34

[zulu sierra]

Thanks Houdini for all the above useful compilations..I hope you'll continue with best B-sides and a list of Smiths/Moz albums with their respective tracks listed from highest to lowest ranking ( like you did 2 years back ).....

[Girl-with-the-Thorn]

Best Morrissey-song of the 1990s:

1) Speedway (1994) 9,53
2) Now My Heart Is Full (1994) 9,52
23) Maladjusted (1997) 8,34

:D All brilliant ratings for these songs. But...


81) Tony The Pony (1991) 6,08


:eek: What?!


BEST MORRISSEY-SONG OF THE 2000s:

34) Mama Lay Softly On The Riverbed (2009) 7,41

AVERAGE SONG SCORE: 7,47

:tears: An abomination. Also, I couldn't see 'Friday Mourning' on that list. Although maybe that's just my bad eyesight...


Ok, I don't want to offend anyone and I agree with you: I'm sure that many people vote judging quality, or whatever arrives to their ears and hearts, but in my personal opinion, sometimes objectivity fails. I am quite sure that it's more likely for a 20 years old boy today to fall in love with Years of Refusal than any of the songs in The Smiths or Hatful of Hollow...And most Morrissey fans are older than 30 today...so...it could be that sometimes, only sometimes objectivity may fail...Anyway I like the polite way you discuss and I like it. Thank you!

I agree with you too skull. :)

[Houdini]

Also, I couldn't see 'Friday Mourning' on that list. Although maybe that's just my bad eyesight...


It's at numer 10!


Thanks Houdini for all the above useful compilations..I hope you'll continue with best B-sides and a list of Smiths/Moz albums with their respective tracks listed from highest to lowest ranking ( like you did 2 years back ).....

It's forthcoming! Check these pages in the coming days...

[Girl-with-the-Thorn]

It's at numer 10!



Oh yes, I see now. Thanks, I would have expected no less of that song. 'It's Not Your Birthday Anymore' is held in pretty high regard too it seems. :)

[Houdini]

Best The Smiths B-side:

1) Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want 9,52
2) Rubber Ring 9,39
3) How Soon Is Now? 9,32
4) Half A Person 9,15
5) Asleep 9,14
6) Handsome Devil 8,92
7) Sweet And Tender Hooligan 8,89
8) Stretch Out And Wait 8,89
9) You Just Haven’t Earned It Yet Baby 8,76
10) Girl Afraid 8,71
11) Is It Really So Strange? 8,59
12) This Night Has Opened My Eyes 8,54
13) Back To The Old House 8,53
14) These Things Take Time 8,49
15) Unlovable 8,46
16) Jeane 8,45
17) London 8,40
18) Wonderful Woman 8,04
19) Oscillate Wildly 7,58
20) Accept Yourself 7,54
21) I Keep Mine Hidden 7,35
22) The Draize Train 6,65
23) Money Changes Everything 6,49
24) Work Is A Four Letter Word 6,41
25) What’s The World 6,07
26) Golden Lights 4,93

[Houdini]

Best Morrissey-single:

1) Everyday Is Like Sunday 9,53

2) Suedehead 9,52
3) Now My Heart Is Full (US Only) 9,52
4) The Last Of The Famous International Playboys 9,44
5) November Spawned A Monster 9,11
6) First Of The Gang To Die 9,02
7) Irish Blood, English Heart 9,01
8) The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get 8,95
9) Tomorrow (US only) 8,88
10) Piccadilly Palare 8,84
11) Let Me Kiss You 8,63
12) My Love Life 8,48
13) Sunny 8,47
14) I Have Forgiven Jesus 8,45
15) Hold On To Your Friends 8,42
16) Interesting Drug 8,40
17) You Have Killed Me 8,23
18) Something Is Squeezing My Skull 8,20
19) We Hate It When Our Friends Become Succesful 8,18
20) Boxers 8,13
21) I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris 8,06
22) Sing Your Life 8,03
23) The Boy Racer 7,99
24) All You Need Is Me 7,98
25) Alma Matters 7,94
26) Satan Rejected My Soul 7,89
27) Certain People I Know 7,79
28) Ouija Board, Ouija Board 7,72
29) Our Frank 7,72
30) In The Future When All’s Well 7,67
31) You’re The One For Me Fatty 7,42
32) Pregnant For The Last Time 7,39
33) Interlude 7,35
34) The Youngest Was The Most Loved 7,31
35) That’s How People Grow Up 7,20
36) I Just Want To See The Boy Happy 7,10
37) Redondo Beach 6,85
38) Roy’s Keen 6,84
39) Dagenham Dave 6,80

[Houdini]

Best Morrissey B-side:

1) Jack The Ripper 9.28

2) Hairdresser On Fire 9,13
3) Will Never Marry 9,05
4) Sister I’m A Poet 8,97
5) Nobody Loves Us 8,96
6) I’ve Changed My Plea To Guilty 8,95
7) Disappointed 8,79
8) My Dearest Love 8,52
9) The Never Played Symphonies 8,51
10) Lost 8,40

11) Such A Little Thing Makes Such A Big Difference 8,37
12) Friday Mourning 8,35
13) I Know Very Well How I Got My Name 8,33
14) I’d Love To 8,32
15) Whatever Happens, I Love You 8,25
16) The Loop 8,27
17) No One Can Hold A Candle To You 8,20
18) Lucky Lisp 8,02
19) Ganglord 7,96
20) I Can Have Both 7,93
21) Yes, I Am Blind 7,86
22) The Edges Are No Longer Parallel 7,80
23) Girl Least Likely To 7,78
24) It’s Hard To Walk Tall When You’re Small 7,76
25) You Must Please Remember 7,72
26) Shame Is The Name 7,67
27) A Swallow On My Neck 7,66
28) If You Don’t Like Me, Don’t Look At Me 7,55
29) He Knows I’d Love To See Him 7,51
30) My Life Is A Succession Of People Saying Goodbye 7,48
31) Have-A-Go Merchant 7,37
32) Munich Air Disaster 1958 7,36
33) I Knew I Was Next 7,36
34) Oh Well I’ll Never Learn 7,34
35) Good Looking Man About Town 7,32
36) Skin Storm 7,30
37) A Song From Under The Floorboards 7,29
38) Let The Right One Slip In 7,27
39) Teenage Dad On His Estate 7,27
40) Human Being 7,26
41) That’s Entertainment 7,24
42) Michael’s Bones 7,18
43) I Am Two People 7,17
44) Don’t Make Fun Of Daddy’s Voice 7,15
45) This Is Not Your Country 7,06
46) Now I Am A Was 7,01
47) Pashernate Love 6,98
48) Heir Apparent 6,94
49) Christian Dior 6,87
50) At Amber 6,82
51) The Public Image 6,80
52) Children In Pieces 6,80
53) Moonriver 6,67
54) Drive-In Saturday 6,66
55) Mexico 6,60
56) Cosmic Dancer 6,59
57) Because Of My Poor Education 6,59
58) Black Eyed Susan 6,52
59) East West 6,51
60) There Speaks A True Friend 6,23
61) You’ve Had Her 6,11
62) Slum Mums 6,10
63) Tony The Pony 6,08
64) Get Off The Stage 5,96
65) Noise Is The Best Revenge 6,09
66) Sweetie Pie 5,53
67) Journalists Who Lie 4,78

[Houdini]

Best cover-version:

1) No One Can Hold A Candle To You (2004) 8,27
2) Interlude (1994) 7,35
3) Skin Storm (1991) 7,31
4) Human Being (2006) 7,27
5) A Song From Under The Floorboards (2006) 7,16
6) That’s Entertainment (1991) 7,14
7) Redondo Beach (2005) 6,85
8) Moonriver (1994) 6,70
9) Drive-In Saturday (2008) 6,66
10) East West (1989) 6,62
11) Cosmic Dancer (1991) 6,54
12) Work Is A Four Letter Word (1987) 6,41
13) What’s The World (1987) 6,07
14) Golden Lights (1986) 4,93

[King Leer]

This little tangent is interesting. Thanks as always to Houdini for his (her?) copious charts. While Mozzer's output in the aughts ranks lowest overall, his cover versions did quite well it seems. Surprised Interlude and Skin Storm are that high up. My impression was that Interlude was often dismissed by fans and critics alike. It's a pretty thing but just by listening to it it's obviously a duet only in the most technical of terms.

No One Can Hold...I think of all the covers, the lyrics of this one come across more like Morrissey's own than any other which may be a reason it works so very well. Really like the sound of A Song From... too.

Human Being -- good feel but drags on one verse/chorus too long. This one could use a fan edit.

Not recorded so it's not part of the chart but I was excited when I heard he did Street Life, perhaps my favourite Roxy track ever. Then I heard it...



Best cover-version:

1) No One Can Hold A Candle To You (2004) 8,27
2) Interlude (1994) 7,35
3) Skin Storm (1991) 7,31
4) Human Being (2006) 7,27
5) A Song From Under The Floorboards (2006) 7,16
6) That’s Entertainment (1991) 7,14
7) Redondo Beach (2005) 6,85
8) Moonriver (1994) 6,70
9) Drive-In Saturday (2008) 6,66
10) East West (1989) 6,62
11) Cosmic Dancer (1991) 6,54
12) Work Is A Four Letter Word (1987) 6,41
13) What’s The World (1987) 6,07
14) Golden Lights (1986) 4,93

[Houdini]

Best song on The Smiths(1984) - best to worst:


1) Still Ill 9,56
2) Reel Around The Fountain 9,41
3) Hand In Glove 9,30
4) What Difference Does It Make? 8,89
5) Suffer Little Children 8,63
6) The Hand That Rocks The Cradle 8,51
7) Pretty Girls Make Graves 8,47
8) You’ve Got Everything Now 8,35
9) I Don’t Owe You Anything 8,03
10) Miserable Lie 7,75

AVERAGE RATING: 8,69

[Daddy Cool]

Best song on The Smiths(1984) - best to worst:


1) Still Ill 9,56
2) Reel Around The Fountain 9,41
3) Hand In Glove 9,30
4) What Difference Does It Make? 8,89
5) Suffer Little Children 8,63
6) The Hand That Rocks The Cradle 8,51
7) Pretty Girls Make Graves 8,47
8) You’ve Got Everything Now 8,35
9) I Don’t Owe You Anything 8,03
10) Miserable Lie 7,75

AVERAGE RATING: 8,69

Miserable Lie in last position? Whoever thinks that is right is a cunt-ry mile behind the world.

[Houdini]

Best song on Meat Is Murder(1985) - best to worst:

1) The Headmaster Ritual 9,47
2) That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore 9,36
3) Well I Wonder 9,31
4) I Want The One I Can’t Have 9,01
5) Nowhere Fast 8,93
6) Rusholme Ruffians 8,74
7) What She Said 8,60
8) Barbarism Begins At Home 8,41
9) Meat Is Murder 8,14

AVERAGE RATING: 8,89

[Orson Swells]

Best song on The Smiths(1984) - best to worst:


1) Still Ill 9,56
2) Reel Around The Fountain 9,41
3) Hand In Glove 9,30
4) What Difference Does It Make? 8,89
5) Suffer Little Children 8,63
6) The Hand That Rocks The Cradle 8,51
7) Pretty Girls Make Graves 8,47
8) You’ve Got Everything Now 8,35
9) I Don’t Owe You Anything 8,03
10) Miserable Lie 7,75

AVERAGE RATING: 8,69

"Still Ill" - possibly the most over-rated song of the entire poll!

[Houdini]

Best song on The Queen Is Dead (1986) - best to worst:

1) There Is A Light That Never Goes Out 9,87
2) I Know It’s Over 9,57
3) The Queen Is Dead 9,50
4) The Boy With The Thorn In His Side 9,40
5) Bigmouth Strikes Again 9,34
6) Cemetry Gates 9,27
7) Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others 8,67
8) Frankly Mr Shankly 8,65
9) Never Had No One Ever 8,21
10) Vicar In A Tutu 8,03

AVERAGE RATING: 9,05

[Houdini]

Best song on Strangeways Here We Come (1987) - best to worst:

1) Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me 9,42
2) Stop Me If You Think You’ve Heard This One Before 9,35
3) A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours 8,95
4) Girlfriend In A Coma 8,85
5) Paint A Vulgar Picture 8,84
6) I Won’t Share You 8,73
7) I Started Something I Couldn’t Finish 8,54
8) Death Of A Disco Dancer 8,02
9) Unhappy Birthday 7,69
10) Death At One’s Elbow 6,53

AVERAGE RATING: 8,49

[Houdini]

Best song on Viva Hate (1988) - best to worst:

1) Everyday Is Like Sunday 9,53
2) Suedehead 9,52
3) Late Night, Maudlin Street 9,19
4) Alsatian Cousin 8,43
5) Angel, Angel, Down We Go Together 8,27
6) I Don’t Mind If You Forget Me 8,02
7) Little Man, What Now? 7,66
8) Break Up The Family 7,55
9) The Ordinary Boys 7,42
10) Bengali In Platforms 7,25
11) Dial-A-Cliche 6,85
12) Margaret On The Guillotine 6,69

AVERAGE RATING: 8,03

[Houdini]

Best song on Kill Uncle (1991) - best to worst:

1) Sing Your Life 8,03
2) There’s A Place In Hell For Me And My Friends 7,88
3) Mute Witness 7,77
4) Our Frank 7,72
5) I’m the End Of The Family Line 7,67
6) Driving Your Girlfriend Home 7,63
7) King Leer 7,32
8) Asian Rut 6,33
9) Found Found Found 5,82
10) The Harsh Truth Of The Camera Eye 5,77

AVERAGE RATING: 7,19

[Houdini]

Best song on Your Arsenal (1992) - best to worst:

1) The National Front Disco 9,14
2) Seasick, Yet Still Docked 9,11
3) Tomorrow 8,88
4) You’re Gonna Need Someone On Your Side 8,65
5) I Know It’s Gonna Happen Someday 8,60
6) We’ll Let You Know 8,43
7) We Hate It When Our Friends Become Succesful 8,18
8) Glamorous Glue 8,01
9) Certain People I Know 7,79
10) You’re The One For Me Fatty 7,42

AVERAGE RATING: 8,42

[Houdini]

Best song on Vauxhall and I (1994) - best to worst:

1) Speedway 9,53
2) Now My Heart Is Full 9,52
3) Why Don’t You Find Out For Yourself 9,41
4) The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get 8,95
5) Spring-Heeled Jim 8,50
6) Hold On To Your Friends 8,45
7) I Am Hated For Loving 8,29
8) Lifeguard Sleeping, Girl Drowning 8,29
9) Used To Be A Sweet Boy 7,85
10) The Lazy Sunbathers 7,73
11) Billy Budd 7,62

AVERAGE RATING: 8,56

[Houdini]

Best song on Southpaw Grammar (1995) - best to worst:

1) Southpaw 8,42
2) Reader Meet Author 8,20
3) The Boy Racer 7,99
4) The Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils 7,65
5) Do Your Best and Don’t Worry 7,31
6) The Operation 7,29
7) Dagenham Dave 6,80
8) Best Friend On The Payroll 6,60

AVERAGE RATING: 7,53

[Houdini]

Best song on Maladjusted (1997) - best to worst:

1) Trouble Loves Me 9,12
2) Maladjusted 8,34
3) Alma Matters 7,95
4) Satan Rejected My Soul 7,89
5) Wide To Receive 7,38
6) Roy’s Keen 6,84
7) Ammunition 6,69
8) He Cried 6,38
9) Ambitious Outsiders 6,30
10) Sorrow Will Come In The End 5,51
11) Papa Jack 5,11

AVERAGE RATING: 7,05

[Houdini]

Best song on You Are The Quarry (2004) - best to worst:

1) First Of The Gang To Die 9,02
2) Irish Blood, English Heart 9,01
3) Let Me Kiss You 8,63
4) I Have Forgiven Jesus 8,50
5) Come Back To Camden 8,38
6) The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores 8,18
7) You Know I Couldn’t Last 7,95
8) I’m Not Sorry 7,95
9) I Like You 7,88
10) How Can Anybody Possibly Know How I Feel? 7,31
11) America Is Not The World 6,50
12) All The Lazy Dykes 6,15

AVERAGE RATING: 7,96

[Houdini]

Best song on Ringleader Of The Tormentors (2006) - best to worst:

1) Life Is A Pigsty 8,95
2) You Have Killed Me 8,23
3) I’ll Never Be Anybody’s Hero Now 7,76
4) In The Future When All’s Well 7,67
5) I Will See You In Far Off Places 7,65
6) Dear God, Please Help Me 7,61
7) To Me You Are A Work Of Art 7,45
8) The Youngest Was The Most Loved 7,31
9) I Just Want To See The Boy Happy 7,10
10) On The Streets I Ran 6,99
11) At Last I Am Born 6,71
12) The Father Who Must Be Killed 6,61

AVERAGE RATING: 7,50

[Houdini]

Best song on Years Of Refusal (2009) - best to worst:

1) It's Not Your Birthday Anymore 8,36
2) Something Is Squeezing My Skull, 8,20
3) I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris 8,06
4) All You Need Is Me 7,98
5) When Last I Spoke to Carol 7,90
6) I'm OK by Myself 7,79
7) Mama Lay Softly on the Riverbed 7,41
8) Black Cloud 7,28
9) One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell 7,27
10) That's How People Grow Up 7,20
11) You Were Good in Your Time 6,66
12) Sorry Doesn't Help 6,22

AVERAGE RATING: 7,53