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The Seeker of Good Songs
January 23, 2010, 10:56 PM
Cadbury agrees Kraft takeover bid


Cadbury is to be taken over by the US food company Kraft after its board approved a new increased bid.
The Cadbury board has advised its shareholders to accept a new offer of 840 pence a share - valuing the company at £11.5bn ($18.9bn).
Kraft said the deal would create a "global confectionery leader".
But there are renewed fears over possible job cuts at Cadbury's UK operations as a result of the agreed takeover.
Shareholders have until 2 February to give the deal their backing, with the US confectioner Hershey apparently out of the race.
The offer will consist of 500 pence in cash, with the rest made of Kraft shares. Kraft will borrow £7bn ($11.5bn) to finance the deal.



"We believe the offer represents good value for Cadbury shareholders... and will now work with the Kraft Foods' management to ensure the continued success and growth of the business," said Cadbury's chairman Roger Carr.
Irene Rosenfeld, the chairman and chief executive of Kraft Foods, said the deal was good news for shareholders and staff.
"We have great respect for Cadbury's brands, heritage and people," she said. "We believe they will thrive as part of Kraft Foods."
Shareholder approval
The deal is a significant increase on earlier Kraft bids, which were flatly rejected by the Cadbury board as "derisory".
Kraft's previous offer valued the company at £10.5bn - a bid Cadbury's chairman Roger Carr said was an attempt to "buy Cadbury on the cheap".
Shareholders are expected to agree to the takeover.
David Cumming, head of UK equities at Cadbury shareholder Standard Life, said that he would be agreeing, despite hoping for a higher price.



"I won't go against the view of Cadbury's management," he told the BBC.
"Kraft are getting a good deal. It's sad that Cadbury is gone, but business is business."
In early trading on Tuesday, Cadbury shares were up 3.5%.
Job fears
Unions have expressed concerns that the Kraft takeover could cost jobs.
The company has given no specific assurances over the future of 4,500 UK jobs, though it says it wants to invest in the Bournville site and maintain production at Somerdale, near Bristol, also known as Keynsham.
It has not ruled out cuts, and staff numbers at Cadbury's head office in Uxbridge are expected to be reduced, according to the BBC's business editor Robert Peston.



Kraft also said it expected "meaningful cost savings" as a result of the merger.
Jennie Formby from the Unite union said the need for Kraft to cut costs could mean staff cuts in the longer-term.
"We are concerned about the levels of debt that Kraft has," she told the BBC.
"The sad truth is that when they have to pay down that debt, the soft option is jobs and conditions.
"When you have to make cost savings of the magnitude they will need to make, you have to ask where those cost savings will be made."
Those fears were shared by David Bailey, professor at Coventry University Business School.
"Serious questions need to be asked about Kraft's intentions," he said.
"Kraft already has a track record of cutting production and moving production abroad. There's no guarantee that they'll keep production in the UK in the long run."

from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8467007.stm

Jukebox Jury
January 23, 2010, 11:00 PM
Your point is?:confused:

Jukebox Jury

Neader
January 23, 2010, 11:01 PM
Soon Kraft will be buying our souls.

jamescagney
January 23, 2010, 11:13 PM
I predict there will be job kuts.

Emotional Guide Dog
January 23, 2010, 11:27 PM
I predict there will be job kuts.

Are they a kind of cracker? Something like Nutter Butter?

On the one hand, I'm opposed to the takeover because there'll be massive job cuts in the UK because of it. Our Government are totally spineless.

On the other hand, it's a match made in heaven: they both make some reallty shit quality chocolate.

Jukebox Jury
January 23, 2010, 11:27 PM
Soon Kraft will be buying our souls.

Simply don't buy their goods.
The consumer has the power everytime.

Jukebox Jury

Emotional Guide Dog
January 23, 2010, 11:30 PM
Simply don't buy their goods.
The consumer has the power everytime.

Jukebox Jury

That's actually quite easy to do. Kraft may be the second biggest confectioner in the world but they don't make that many products that are available in the UK. And their website has a handy list.

Still, Nestle shut the factory in York, Trebor Basset have shut loads of them; neither of them were took over by an 'evil American corporation' & no-one gave a shit.

Jukebox Jury
January 23, 2010, 11:39 PM
Soon Kraft will be buying our souls.


That's actually quite easy to do. Kraft may be the second biggest confectioner in the world but they don't make that many products that are available in the UK. And their website has a handy list.

Still, Nestle shut the factory in York, Trebor Basset have shut loads of them; neither of them were took over by an 'evil American corporation' & no-one gave a shit.

:clap::clap:

Jukebox Jury

jamescagney
January 23, 2010, 11:46 PM
Still, Nestle shut the factory in York, Trebor Basset have shut loads of them; neither of them were took over by an 'evil American corporation' & no-one gave a shit.

Agreed, Kraft is just buying Cadbury after it already failed. It's not like America caused the worldwide economic crisis that caused Cadbury to fail.

Oh, wait, we did.

Emotional Guide Dog
January 23, 2010, 11:49 PM
Agreed, Kraft is just buying Cadbury after it already failed. It's not like America caused the worldwide economic crisis that caused it to fail.

Oh, wait, we did.

Actually, I don't think Cadbury as a business are in any sort of financial trouble (other than the lost revenue from that product recall they did last year) but some of Cadbury's shareholders may have lost money on other shares they own. It's up to them to approve the sale & I'd expect them to take any money that was offered to them.

EDIT Incidentally, what happened to 'our saviour' Obama when he said he was going to regulate the banks. Yet they'll lend Kraft billions.

The Americans will be buying a succesful & financially secure football club with money they don't have & securing the debt against the prime development land *cough* stadium next.

Oh, wait.

jamescagney
January 23, 2010, 11:55 PM
Actually, I don't think Cadbury as a business are in any sort of financial trouble (other than the lost revenue from that product recall they did last year) but some of Cadbury's shareholders may have lost money on other shares they own. It's up to them to approve the sale & I'd expect them to take any money that was offered to them.

It seems like that's frequently the case. I worked at a major US bank whose head was about to retire, and one of his last acts was to sell the bank to a much larger bank. Myself and many other people lost their jobs due to jobs moving to other states or being reduced through consolidation, and the merger was no fun for anyone involved. Nor did anyone really believe that becoming subordinate to another bank was in the company's best interest. But the head profited quite a bit due to the short-term boost to the stock shares he was about to sell.

Oh my god, it's Robby!
January 24, 2010, 12:03 AM
look, as corporations go, Kraft is one of the most evil, people who care about ethical investment should not put their money with Kraft :mad:
there are many reasons for this, but I shall just touch on those I have personal experience of as someone who has worked on a Dairy farm off and on going back a decade and as recently as 2005 :straightface:
Kraft basically oppresses the dairy farmers that sell their milk to them in every way imaginable, at least in I know this to be true in upstate New York
they control the local government, they buy off the elections of local dairy farmer co-ops leadership, and they make sure road & water access is something they control as much as possible.
What this means is that the individual American Dairy farmer who sells his milk to Kraft gets almost none of the profits from the ridiculously over priced, watered down(literally) produced usually from the hormone toxified cows :tears:
Oh, and when anyone tries to not play by their program for how to "make milk" from start to finish.
Well, they just about do everything short of but burn down your barn, I know
I was there when times were real rough on my friend Erik's hormone & genetic engineering free :crazy: all organic, large range pasture intensive dairy farm.
We, I mean he makes sure everything possible is grown on the farm, the cows are not murdered when they stop producing "their max" and lots of other great more humane things.
The wonder to outsiders and evil corporations like Kraft is that the happier cows make not only more milk but cleaner, more nutrient filled milk! :eek:
This is the kind of fact corporations like Kraft want to destroy, luckily Ben&Jerrys(a good, or at least better, corporation) buys Erik's milk and so he does not have to sell to the evil people at Kraft
So yeah, I will now no longer buy Cadbury chocos, oh well :cool:

Jukebox Jury
January 24, 2010, 12:09 AM
Actually, I don't think Cadbury as a business are in any sort of financial trouble (other than the lost revenue from that product recall they did last year) but some of Cadbury's shareholders may have lost money on other shares they own. It's up to them to approve the sale & I'd expect them to take any money that was offered to them.

EDIT Incidentally, what happened to 'our saviour' Obama when he said he was going to regulate the banks. Yet they'll lend Kraft billions.

The Americans will be buying a succesful & financially secure football club with money they don't have & securing the debt against the prime development land *cough* stadium next.

Oh, wait.

which club is that? I can think of two:thumb:

Jukebox Jury

jamescagney
January 24, 2010, 12:36 AM
Incidentally, what happened to 'our saviour' Obama when he said he was going to regulate the banks. Yet they'll lend Kraft billions.

Absolutely agree that Obama isn't superman. He's only had a year so far. He hasn't forgotten this goal, in fact he made news today with some announcements on proposing exactly that. All he can promise really is what his agenda / intentions will be, given that Congress passes legislation.

It'll only happen if both parties give him sufficient help, which seems highly unlikely. I doubt that a loan to Kraft would be under Obama's control at all, but world banks.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703822404575019393811230882.html?m od=googlenews_wsj

Emotional Guide Dog
January 24, 2010, 12:40 AM
Absolutely agree that Obama isn't superman. He's only had a year so far. He hasn't forgotten this goal, in fact he made news today with some announcements on proposing exactly that. All he can promise really is what his agenda / intentions will be, given that Congress passes legislation.

It'll only happen if both parties give him sufficient help, which seems highly unlikely. I doubt that a loan to Kraft would be under Obama's control at all, but world banks.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703822404575019393811230882.html?m od=googlenews_wsj

I take your point that he's only been in office for a year. But you do realise that that's a quarter of his term? If he doesn't stop being so anaemic soon, one term is all he's going to get.

Emotional Guide Dog
January 24, 2010, 12:42 AM
which club is that? I can think of two:thumb:

Jukebox Jury

Interesting. I can only think of one succesful club. I think I read somewhere that some American razor maker looked in some history books & found a club he liked. I don't know if anything ever came of it.

jamescagney
January 24, 2010, 12:43 AM
I take your point that he's only been in office for a year. But you do realise that that's a quarter of his term? If he doesn't stop being so anaemic soon, one term is all he's going to get.

I'm not happy with his performance either, but do you think he's getting less done than other presidents? I'm not sure the facts support that.

And even if he was/is doing less than other presidents, and he's not heading in fully the direction I wanted, it's still a small comfort to me that he's not heading in a direction opposite to my values.

Emotional Guide Dog
January 24, 2010, 12:58 AM
And even if he was/is doing less than other presidents, and he's not heading in fully the direction I wanted, it's still a small comfort to me that he's not heading in a direction opposite to my values.

As someone who remembers when in the UK the Labour party were the leftist mainstream party & not the farthest right wing mainstream party, I fully support that statement.

Still, I'd imagine alot of people are pissed at Obama. When he does score a touchdown, it had better be a big one for his own sake.