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January 10, 2002, 12:40 AM
Beatles, Ramones -- Spin Magazine's Rock Greatest

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The music magazine Spin named the 50 greatest bands on Wednesday in a list guaranteed to spark debate among rock fans over whether The Ramones are better than Led Zeppelin or why Husker Du is ranked higher than Pink Floyd.

The only non-controversial listing would appear to be The Beatles at No. 1. After that, there is sure to be disagreement.

According to Spin editors, New York punk pioneers The Ramones are second to the Fab Four, with Led Zeppelin third. Reggae king Bob Marley and the Wailers are rated fourth greatest and Seattle grungers Nirvana round out the top five.

``The Ramones' genius is that they could say in two minutes what it takes most bands five minutes to say,'' the magazine quoted Deryck Whibley of the band Sum-41 as saying.

In its February edition, Spin said its editors chose the 50 greatest bands because ``the band is back,'' after more than five years in which ``rappers, dancing teens and DJs took over the dance charts, MTV and magazines.''

It noted that bands like Creed, Incubus, Staind and Linkin Park have made a recent impact on the charts, following in the footsteps of the great bands who ``sold their soul and trashed their dressing rooms for rock 'n' roll.''

The criteria for the 50 greatest were that ``these groups had to have a roof-raising, history-changing sound, presence or hairstyle.'' In addition, ``they also had to clearly influence today's music in undeniable ways'' and ``had to be bands that we care about deeply.''

That might explain why acclaimed bands like U2 (13th greatest), The Grateful Dead (27th), The Who (39th), The Beach Boys (45th) and Pink Floyd (49th) are rated lower in the Top 50 than lesser known but arguably more influential groups like The Smiths (21st), Pavement (30th), Fugazi (31st) or New Order (41st).

Spin's Top 10 is completed by Parliament/Funkadelic at No. 6, followed by The Clash, Public Enemy, The Rolling Stones and Beastie Boys.

The list is perhaps more telling in who was left off, including some arguably more influential bands like Steely Dan, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, and Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band.

I dont know what to make of this article

suzanne
January 10, 2002, 03:14 AM
> Beatles, Ramones -- Spin Magazine's Rock Greatest

> NEW YORK (Reuters) - The music magazine Spin named the 50 greatest bands
> on Wednesday in a list guaranteed to spark debate among rock fans over
> whether The Ramones are better than Led Zeppelin or why Husker Du is
> ranked higher than Pink Floyd.

> The only non-controversial listing would appear to be The Beatles at No.
> 1. After that, there is sure to be disagreement.

> According to Spin editors, New York punk pioneers The Ramones are second
> to the Fab Four, with Led Zeppelin third. Reggae king Bob Marley and the
> Wailers are rated fourth greatest and Seattle grungers Nirvana round out
> the top five.

> ``The Ramones' genius is that they could say in two minutes what it takes
> most bands five minutes to say,'' the magazine quoted Deryck Whibley of
> the band Sum-41 as saying.

> In its February edition, Spin said its editors chose the 50 greatest bands
> because ``the band is back,'' after more than five years in which
> ``rappers, dancing teens and DJs took over the dance charts, MTV and
> magazines.''

> It noted that bands like Creed, Incubus, Staind and Linkin Park have made
> a recent impact on the charts, following in the footsteps of the great
> bands who ``sold their soul and trashed their dressing rooms for rock 'n'
> roll.''

> The criteria for the 50 greatest were that ``these groups had to have a
> roof-raising, history-changing sound, presence or hairstyle.'' In
> addition, ``they also had to clearly influence today's music in undeniable
> ways'' and ``had to be bands that we care about deeply.''

> That might explain why acclaimed bands like U2 (13th greatest), The
> Grateful Dead (27th), The Who (39th), The Beach Boys (45th) and Pink Floyd
> (49th) are rated lower in the Top 50 than lesser known but arguably more
> influential groups like The Smiths (21st), Pavement (30th), Fugazi (31st)
> or New Order (41st).

> Spin's Top 10 is completed by Parliament/Funkadelic at No. 6, followed by
> The Clash, Public Enemy, The Rolling Stones and Beastie Boys.

> The list is perhaps more telling in who was left off, including some
> arguably more influential bands like Steely Dan, Crosby, Stills, Nash and
> Young, and Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band.

> I dont know what to make of this article

i'll tell you what to make of it:

magazines come up with these lists to get people to but their magazine.

Billy Budd
January 10, 2002, 11:19 AM

Ruffian
January 10, 2002, 12:22 PM
The Smiths were also in the Top 20 of the current release of Q giving the top 50 or 100 Noise songs of the 20th Century.. (excuse my vagueness I was browsing in the Virgin Megastore in tottenham Court Road on Tuesday)..

The song was the 'The Queen Is Dead'.

For those that like lists!

russ t
January 14, 2002, 01:58 PM
....is it just me or are Nirvana the most over-rated pop band in history?

Maybe Morrissey should purchase a shotgun.........?

> The Smiths were also in the Top 20 of the current release of Q giving the
> top 50 or 100 Noise songs of the 20th Century.. (excuse my vagueness I was
> browsing in the Virgin Megastore in tottenham Court Road on Tuesday)..

> The song was the 'The Queen Is Dead'.

> For those that like lists!

Billy Budd
January 14, 2002, 02:37 PM
> ....is it just me or are Nirvana the most over-rated pop band in history?

I don't know, although I'm not into them (too old to get into new fads and fashions by that stage), you can't really question the impact bands like Nirvana and Oasis made on the 90's. I'm not a fan of 60's bands with one or two exceptions, but I could never really question the relevance of say The Beatles or The Stones.

> Maybe Morrissey should purchase a shotgun.........?

"And when I'm lying in my bed/I think about life and I think about death/And neither one particularly appeals to me"